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[Seekeroftruth55]

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[Apheirox]

Sorry to hear you had a bad experience.

The thing with faith in a religion is, it becomes very important to state exactly what it says - because that´s what God says. That´s a main reason why people quote scripture.

 

[Terminator Resistance]

Alright. This is a tricky one, because this isn't exactly going to be a nice topic, so buckle up.
So, for the few months that I've been posting on this forum, there's one main thing to notice about it. For a place that's meant to be for people to feel safe to talk about the truth and what's actually going on in this world, it can be quite cold and sterile. Sadly, we constantly see people arguing and attacking each other. Some people may just be debating, but some just can't get off their high horses. Where is the love?
This comes to my biggest point of all. No one, and I mean NO ONE on this forum is allowed to say anything against Islam and Sharia Law! If we do, we are constantly put down, being corrected and saying we have a "misconception".
At this point, I don't care what people say about this. I don't care how many people will correct and attack me for just having an opinion! Maybe let us have a thought about this? If we don't agree with it, then tough! To me, Sharia Law has to be one of the most miserable and horrible ways of life there is. The rules are downright ridiculous and even cruel. This is how I feel! And of course, I bet there will be people huffing and puffing, telling me I'm wrong, of course.
This is the way of this forum. And how many Christian bashers are there, here? Yikes! Now, I have to admit, some of the fundamentalists drive me nuts also on this forum, with their constant bible scriptures instead of actually just typing out how they feel, but, christianity at a whole seems to be under attack, even on a truth site. But, if anyone says anything about Islam, whoa, people totally get bent out of shape!
There's a reason I don't post anymore on this forum. I never felt so uncomfortable on a forum before. This will also sadly be the last.
Well, it was alright at best while it lasted, and also, please do me a favour and stop trying to pressure people to believe in Islam if they don't want to, and let people actually have their say? Thank you.

You'd think VC was a Muslim judging by the amount of Muslims on here.

I also despise religious wars that are constantly going here. Religion should be a personal choice and not a matter of "who is right."

 

[phipps]

I don't post much on threads about Islam because there is really nothing in common between Islam and Christianity. When I have posted on Islamic threads or responded to a Muslim on Christian threads, I have always been honest about what I think about Islam. I have posted on Sharia law and how I know Islam is a false religion and tried to explain why and yes I did get attacked. Personally I don't let attacks on me and my beliefs get to me too much. I do get angry but then I get over it quickly. Especially if I know I am telling God's truth according to His Word. Do not let people's mere words and attacks get to you too much. They are anonymous anyway and you don't know them personally.

 

[Lizard King]

Alright. This is a tricky one, because this isn't exactly going to be a nice topic, so buckle up.
So, for the few months that I've been posting on this forum, there's one main thing to notice about it. For a place that's meant to be for people to feel safe to talk about the truth and what's actually going on in this world, it can be quite cold and sterile. Sadly, we constantly see people arguing and attacking each other. Some people may just be debating, but some just can't get off their high horses. Where is the love?
This comes to my biggest point of all. No one, and I mean NO ONE on this forum is allowed to say anything against Islam and Sharia Law! If we do, we are constantly put down, being corrected and saying we have a "misconception".
At this point, I don't care what people say about this. I don't care how many people will correct and attack me for just having an opinion! Maybe let us have a thought about this? If we don't agree with it, then tough! To me, Sharia Law has to be one of the most miserable and horrible ways of life there is. The rules are downright ridiculous and even cruel. This is how I feel! And of course, I bet there will be people huffing and puffing, telling me I'm wrong, of course.
This is the way of this forum. And how many Christian bashers are there, here? Yikes! Now, I have to admit, some of the fundamentalists drive me nuts also on this forum, with their constant bible scriptures instead of actually just typing out how they feel, but, christianity at a whole seems to be under attack, even on a truth site. But, if anyone says anything about Islam, whoa, people totally get bent out of shape!
There's a reason I don't post anymore on this forum. I never felt so uncomfortable on a forum before. This will also sadly be the last.
Well, it was alright at best while it lasted, and also, please do me a favour and stop trying to pressure people to believe in Islam if they don't want to, and let people actually have their say? Thank you.

Allegedly the Taliban do not appreciate your opinions lol.

 

[Alanantic]

Imagine a religious forum where no scripture is allowed. You can only say what you believe in your own words... Strange. I hear crickets!

 

[Lizard King]

Imagine a religious forum where no scripture is allowed. You can only say what you believe in your own words... Strange. I hear crickets!

Be glad you are only hearing crickets and not having to eat them!!!

 

[Lyfe]

Imagine a religious forum where no scripture is allowed. You can only say what you believe in your own words... Strange. I hear crickets!

Thats what you want? More people telling you what they believe?

 

[Seekeroftruth55]

I'm thankful to everyone for their feedback, it's much appreciated.
I was making this post as a farewell also, in a sense. This had to be addressed. I unfortunately won't be posting anymore, maybe just to lurk here and there, so feel free to keep discussing. Thanks again and hope you're well.

 

[Lizard King]

I'm thankful to everyone for their feedback, it's much appreciated.
I was making this post as a farewell also, in a sense. This had to be addressed. I unfortunately won't be posting anymore, maybe just to lurk here and there, so feel free to keep discussing. Thanks again and hope you're well.

Don't forget to wear your burka and stop eating pork chops too.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Thats what you want? More people telling you what they believe?

The way I see it, there are two kinds of people….

Those with a loaded gun and those who dig…



OK, seriously, there are those who think that they have some special insight and discover God / the absolute etc all for themselves. Eastern and New Age thought and forms of Gnosticism are of this sort…

Then there are those who believe that God may have revealed Himself through history and that that knowledge would have been written down. It would also appear that as many written texts claim divine inspiration, yet make numerous contradictory claims, they may all be false but cannot all be true.

Clearly anyone wanting a dialogue with the former type of person will be resistant to the world-view of the latter but that doesn’t invalidate that view from a logical perspective.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Alright. This is a tricky one, because this isn't exactly going to be a nice topic, so buckle up.
So, for the few months that I've been posting on this forum, there's one main thing to notice about it. For a place that's meant to be for people to feel safe to talk about the truth and what's actually going on in this world, it can be quite cold and sterile. Sadly, we constantly see people arguing and attacking each other. Some people may just be debating, but some just can't get off their high horses. Where is the love?
This comes to my biggest point of all. No one, and I mean NO ONE on this forum is allowed to say anything against Islam and Sharia Law! If we do, we are constantly put down, being corrected and saying we have a "misconception".
At this point, I don't care what people say about this. I don't care how many people will correct and attack me for just having an opinion! Maybe let us have a thought about this? If we don't agree with it, then tough! To me, Sharia Law has to be one of the most miserable and horrible ways of life there is. The rules are downright ridiculous and even cruel. This is how I feel! And of course, I bet there will be people huffing and puffing, telling me I'm wrong, of course.
This is the way of this forum. And how many Christian bashers are there, here? Yikes! Now, I have to admit, some of the fundamentalists drive me nuts also on this forum, with their constant bible scriptures instead of actually just typing out how they feel, but, christianity at a whole seems to be under attack, even on a truth site. But, if anyone says anything about Islam, whoa, people totally get bent out of shape!
There's a reason I don't post anymore on this forum. I never felt so uncomfortable on a forum before. This will also sadly be the last.
Well, it was alright at best while it lasted, and also, please do me a favour and stop trying to pressure people to believe in Islam if they don't want to, and let people actually have their say? Thank you.

I'm curious, where has anyone said anything about Sharia Law? Better yet, why should this be an issue or concern for anyone on here?

I've looked up on three search engines and this is what I found and the latest article seems to be from last May

Google:

sharia law - Google Search

DuckDuckGo:

What is Shariah law?

Since 2010, more than 200 anti-Shariah bills have been introduced in 43 states.

www.nbcnews.com

Escosia:

https://www.ecosia.org/search?method=index&q=sharia%20law

We've had two years of occultists doing what they can to force us into worshiping them as UAC has posted here, yet, Sharia Law should be an issue or the Muslim faith? Add to it, nearly every practicing Muslim has disappeared from these forums due to their treatment on here so I do agree with you with regard to the love and respect. I'm guessing that there are many on here don't have the self-respect to treat others with it because you can't give what you don't have for yourself.

 

[Lyfe]

The way I see it, there are two kinds of people….

Those with a loaded gun and those who dig…

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OK, seriously, there are those who think that they have some special insight and discover God / the absolute etc all for themselves. Eastern and New Age thought and forms of Gnosticism are of this sort…

Then there are those who believe that God may have revealed Himself through history and that that knowledge would have been written down. It would also appear that as many written texts claim divine inspiration, yet make numerous contradictory claims, they may all be false but cannot all be true.

Clearly anyone wanting a dialogue with the former type of person will be resistant to the world-view of the latter but that doesn’t invalidate that view from a logical perspective.

I agree. Im the type of person who values truth over opinion. Truth is objective and absolute. It never bends to what we want it to and it is something we cant just create at our own discretion. It doesn't matter what we believe. Only thing that matters is the truth. To think we as individuals can bend the truth to suit us is narcissistic and prideful. It is also delusional.

 

[Alanantic]

Thats what you want? More people telling you what they believe?

If it's from the heart, yes. If it's from a book, no. I want people to speak their own mind.

 

[Lyfe]

If it's from the heart, yes. If it's from a book, no. I want people to speak their own mind.

What makes the heart more relevant than whats in a book? If its all relative it shouldn't matter.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

If it's from the heart, yes. If it's from a book, no. I want people to speak their own mind.

Is it possible to have a heartfelt and transformative spiritual experience of a divine entity who has also interacted with humanity throughout history? Is it really logical to conclude that God would only be able to speak through subjective experiences and nothing recorded should be admissible?

 

[Alanantic]

Is it possible to have a heartfelt and transformative spiritual experience of a divine entity who has also interacted with humanity throughout history? Is it really logical to conclude that God would only be able to speak through subjective experiences and nothing recorded should be admissible?

I had my first when I was 4. I was that divine entity.

"Just as when you are half awake and can see a dream, and know you are dreaming, and yet are apart from it, that is how God feels this universe. On one side he is awake, and on another side he is dreaming this universe. And that is how you should look upon this world. Then you will know why he created it, and will not ascribe these dream conditions to your soul. If you pass through a nightmare, you know that is no more than a bad dream. If you can live in the world in that consciousness, you will not suffer. Do not pay attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal Self (Consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda

 

[A Freeman]

Imagine a religious forum where no scripture is allowed. You can only say what you believe in your own words... Strange. I hear crickets!

Imagine a courtroom where no citations are allowed. You could make up whatever rules you want. Oh wait...that's exactly what we've done!

Btw, someone once described the hum in one's mind when they're connected to our Creator as sounding like "the crickets" because of the similarity.

 

[Seekeroftruth55]

I'm gonna bump this thread. I find it's a good idea to do so. Many others on this forum won't think so, but things have gone from bad to worse.
The Islam religion has totally taken over this forum. It's worse than when I first started this thread.
Everyone, and I mean almost EVERYONE has gotten indoctrinated to think their religion is good and like Christianity. I'm seeing Christians on here supporting their religion. Just cause it seems similar, doesn't mean they didn't plagiarize christianity. I heard their so called prophet slept with many women, and even treated them very poorly. What about Sharia law? How they treat people in their own countries?
Yes, Muslims that live in North America and such may be a bit different, cause they aren't as forced into their customs as in their own countries, but we can't sit here and take this infiltration and indoctrination.
This forum has become another form of this. It's all controlled opposition and Sharia law sympathizers, or at least most of the way.
Anyone that says anything against this religion is automatically corrected and shut down. We get censored, just like the liberals to do people all the time.
This forum has become like the liberal media! People are so manipulated on here, it's becoming a joke. Is there anyone on here that actually knows what's properly happening? Do they even notice this infiltration? Half the members are of Sharia law, for Pete's sake!
Also, I have never witnessed a forum with such a cold and sterile feel to it. I don't even know if people even have friends on here. Everyone is always debating/arguing, and I would think for a place where people can have free speech, there would be more of a friendly feel. It's hard enough for us to feel we connect to others, it's a lonely life.
This forum has made things more lonely for us. Anyone who is not 100 percent conservative, or a Muslim, is shunned. It's as bad as the liberal agenda now. Where is the connection? Where is the full truth?
I only stay here cause nowhere else can I actually find where I can still mention SOME stuff
This is so sad

 

[Daze]

I'm gonna bump this thread. I find it's a good idea to do so. Many others on this forum won't think so, but things have gone from bad to worse.
The Islam religion has totally taken over this forum. It's worse than when I first started this thread.
Everyone, and I mean almost EVERYONE has gotten indoctrinated to think their religion is good and like Christianity. I'm seeing Christians on here supporting their religion. Just cause it seems similar, doesn't mean they didn't plagiarize christianity. I heard their so called prophet slept with many women, and even treated them very poorly. What about Sharia law? How they treat people in their own countries?
Yes, Muslims that live in North America and such may be a bit different, cause they aren't as forced into their customs as in their own countries, but we can't sit here and take this infiltration and indoctrination.
This forum has become another form of this. It's all controlled opposition and Sharia law sympathizers, or at least most of the way.
Anyone that says anything against this religion is automatically corrected and shut down. We get censored, just like the liberals to do people all the time.
This forum has become like the liberal media! People are so manipulated on here, it's becoming a joke. Is there anyone on here that actually knows what's properly happening? Do they even notice this infiltration? Half the members are of Sharia law, for Pete's sake!
Also, I have never witnessed a forum with such a cold and sterile feel to it. I don't even know if people even have friends on here. Everyone is always debating/arguing, and I would think for a place where people can have free speech, there would be more of a friendly feel. It's hard enough for us to feel we connect to others, it's a lonely life.
This forum has made things more lonely for us. Anyone who is not 100 percent conservative, or a Muslim, is shunned. It's as bad as the liberal agenda now. Where is the connection? Where is the full truth?
I only stay here cause nowhere else can I actually find where I can still mention SOME stuff
This is so sad

These forums have been around for a good decade now. Its funny, VC got famous (while not so much today) because he basically exposed the deep state, something uncommon a decade ago.

Which is what Muslims and Christians essentially do. There has always been alot of Muslims and Christians here due to this basic fact. We are the 'conspiracy theorists" even though there's nothing conspiratorial here today.

I can see you're not even a year old amongst this group so I'll mention there used to be alot of Muslims here. Nearly every Muslim i knew here is now gone. Even some of the OG"s.

Gee, i wonder why they left?

Let me give you my perspective being born in a Christian town / family and converting to Islam around 2011. Because you are highly ignorant on many things.

The Islam religion has totally taken over this forum

I'm guessing the Quran thread is a great threat to you? I haven't posted in it recently yet i intend to.
But if i looked I'm expecting it to be somewhat buried due to most of the Muslims having moved on.

I have several Islamic threads here, The majority are waiting for me to update.

Please highlight threads where Islam is trying to take over these boards?

Its funny because you seem to think these are some kind of Christian forums because it is mostly Christians who remain. Here's a little wake up call, we still have atheists here like Alan and these were NEVER Christian boards.

Just ask any of the people who have been here forever like @Orwell's mentor

I heard their so called prophet slept with many women, and even treated them very poorly.

One of even mediocre intelligence will question what they hear, especially today.

The Prophet of Islam has never had sex outside of marriage. These women you speak of are his wives. If he treated them poorly then why are most converts to Islam women themselves?

Islam puts women on a pedestal and this is a fact. Sadly bias keeps some people from actually looking into it.

What about Sharia law?

Shariah law is literally Gods law. The 10 commandments are shariah. Thou shall not steal, kill, lie, etc are all shariah law.

Shariah law in Islam today is basically your old testament, such as cutting off the hand of a thief, which many Christians outright reject (old test that is).

If shariah law was in effect you'd never see things like this. As mockery of the prophets brings a death penalty in Islam.

Yes, Muslims that live in North America and such may be a bit different, cause they aren't as forced into their customs as in their own countries, but we can't sit here and take this infiltration and indoctrination.

Little known fact that Muslims have been here for 200 years.

US Founding Fathers on Islam

Juan Cole British social philosopher John Locke was extremely influential on the Founding Generation, and on the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. John Locke had already advocated civil rights for non-Christians, including Muslims, in his Letter on Toleration: 'Thus if solemn assemblies...

www.juancole.com

"Mohamedan's" are Muslims.

Seriously, where do you think "freedom of religion" comes from when the founding fathers were from Europe, alleged Christians?

Hilarious how you speak of indoctrination.

Also hilarious how you speak of infiltration. Tell me, are you American Indian?

Anyone that says anything against this religion is automatically corrected and shut down. We get censored,

Show me where you are censored? I see VC let A LOT of things pass. I mean that fact that most Muslims have up and left kinda points to the opposite, don't cha think?

Also, I have never witnessed a forum with such a cold and sterile feel to it.

Honestly, this comes from people like you. Hating on literally 2 billion people.

This is so sad

I couldn't agree more.

As Jeff Foxworthy used to say.. "Here's your sign".