Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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True some are so dedicated and even spy on the threads I believe. You are definitely one of my favorite people to have conversations with here. And it’s been nice to meet a kpop fan that is aware of the Illuminati side but still listens to some of the music and is sensible.
Aww!! Thanks a lot you are one of my favorite people on the thread too I like how you don't create dramas or try to derail the thread and are open to hearing other people's opinions
 

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It’s funny I have no feeling towards this now. I’m so relieved I don’t consider myself a ‘vip’ now because I don’t have to side with ot5s or ot4s. As I’ve said before I think if seungri is really a shitty person the rest of bb probably are too since they’re powerful celebrities. I’ll admit I can see ot5s points about t.o.p betraying seungri, he shouldn’t get on his high horse blah blah. The truth is seungri supporters need to wake up, for three years they’ve been going on about how the members posts have hidden messages of support for their ‘brother’ and now they feel hurt. If they want to support seungri fine but they should realise ot5 was all for show. This is different from just staying silent it’s a proper rejection of seungri. The fandom is now even more divided. Hoping they release music but I doubt I’ll watch their variety shows or interviews if they comeback as no matter if you hate seungri he was the most entertaining on those and without him they come across as kind of pretentious. Honestly I don’t really get how bigbang has such supportive fans sometimes. Like I get supporting daesung he has a YouTube channel and seems humble. Seungri well he had a certain charm when he was active. But taeyang he’s just a married man now who posts about once a month. And omg gd and t.o.p damn they seem so pompous with their quirky instas I don’t get how I was such a big fan of t.o.p hahaha when I first found BB. Until (if they ever do) they change for the better I am officially making shinee and super junior my ultimate groups XD, even if I’m confused about where they stand occult-wise at least they are more down to earth and don’t mess around playing games about when they’re having a comeback.
I will check out their comeback I don't like them I remember after burning sun daesung had a similar scandal something about him owning a building where prostitution worm was going on but it was dropped bcz he was at the military at that time so I don't believe they are innocent I feel bad for them though Gdragon especially bcz he started out so young when I watched some of his past interviews I felt he was once a victim too but I have lost hope for him and BB now after a certain point you lose the victim card if he is not bad he at least should've tried to do something to get out I have same feelings for bt5 members I feel bad for them but if they don't do anything to break out in the coming 1-2 years and accept the occult I will lose sympathy for them with sh1nee and x-0 we know some members have tried to break out so I feel more comfortable stanning them x-0 don't want to renew their contract their leader suho said he wants to start a new company 5m has been treating them like shit since their enlistment era started so I have some hope for them and sh1nee lost 1 member bcz of the occult and another is currently being targeted rn for being a rebel so I feel more comfortable stanning them bcz even if they aren't successful in breaking free and end up getting reprogrammed to serve the occult at the very least we can say they tried it is not easy to break free from the system and I don't think many idols have control but if you don't even show any signs of wanting to break free and serve the system you lose the sympathy card it becomes voluntary after a certain point and BB have passed that point now
 

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Woah I didn’t realise he is meant to have that much freedom now. So he actually supposedly had the opportunity to check his phone and update fans but he hasn’t. T@emin seems caring so there must be some other reason he hasn’t done it. If he still hasn’t posted in let’s say a month I think the situation may be even worse than we imagined. All these details at first they seem far fetched but they begin to add up, there are so many signs. Sirius I’ve heard about this before. Didn’t it have some link to the film pinnichio or am I getting mixed up. Honestly it sometimes shocks me how much evil there is, the elites must have been like this since the beginning of time to know all these control techniques and worship these different gods etc.
Yes if there is no direct update from him in 1-2 weeks from him it will become even more sus and I mean an update directly from him not 5m releasing a statement or his members posting to reassure fans wow I didn't know about pinnochio and strange taemin has a song called pinnochio it was self composed and produced so there could be a connection honestly it is shocking just how everything is so calculated and planned
He said it's about the industry corrupting him and how he is yearning for his lost innocence this is co composed and co-written so it is his honest thoughts
 

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Same of course I’m excited for the music but in terms of liking them as people those days are over. Oh my yes but what I don’t understand about that scandal is literally no bigbang fans or even k media mention it as compared to seungr1 or even t.o.p’s weed scandal. Both were supposedly involved in prostitution but one went quiet after weeks and I’d say there was just as much evidence for d@esung, if not more. I mean it was in his building! I think there’s a lot more to that one but it will always remain a mystery. I mean I’m hoping he’s innocent but you know it’s bigbang. But these stars are so deceptive! Just look at d@esung, he seems like an angelic, sweet guy yet he was in some seedy business too. Oh I completely agree they were probably all victims at one stage after all their ages were ranging from only 15-18 and g dragon was thrust into when he could barely read. Whilst gd might be a nice guy to fans and have his good side he is clearly comfortable with being in the occult. Agreed it’s definitely past the stage for escape with them! in fact I think BB‘s t.o.p, gd and t@eyang (Not the other two as much as they weren’t as famous/ popular) are maybe some of the idols most deep in the occult and even more evil than bt$ members. I think it’s hard to understand for some people just how legendary they are in the industry even if they’re not the top group now. I admire $hinee and ex0 for trying to break free but if I’m being honest I think they will never be free as long as they’re working as idols. Maybe if they retire and become farmers they will be but otherwise it’s near impossible. Honestly I’d like to see this thread in five years and see how kpop has changed, what has happened to ex0, bt$, $hinee, bb, blackp1nk. I think kpop isn’t going to be as popular then as well cause it’s lost it’s uniqueness long ago. And I’m curious (as awful as it is) to see the sacrifices to come. They seem to be getting bolder and less cautious about the public knowing.
Yes Its strange how daesung's case is never mentioned I think it tells you he is important they protected him while they threw seungri under the bus I honestly believe that GD and BB are the ones who started all occult symbolism in kpop they started so many trends I know most people who got into kpop now don't know how powerful and influential they were but there is a possibility that they are even more evil then BT5 actually bt5 have cited them as inspiration jeykey said he became an idol after watching heartbreaker I believe rapline members are Gdragon clones and jimin and jeykey are definitely taemin clones so that only leaves supertuna and V and it means bt5 actually ripped off from 2nd gen groups I know it is impossible to break free even britney after everything doesn't seem to have much control but I will still have sympathy for those who try to break free bcz at least it means they tried their best to get out it will be fun to see what happens to kpop in 5 years I'd like to see how everything changes
 
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Exactly, I’m not listening to anything from $m. Also does t@emin not have siblings or family/ friends that have updated fans. Cause if they’ve been silent too maybe $m has made them sign some contract or threatened them.

Yes found the article hahah it was actually on this website: https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-esoteric-interpretation-of-pinocchio/

Now that is just even more strange, it goes so deep. When I first got into so-called conspiracies with pizzag@te I thought that was it but it just led me deeper and deeper. That song yet again seems to be hinting at wanting to escape. I do wonder sometimes if t@emin was coerced into carrying some evil action out as part of a ritual and now he regrets it, maybe that is driving him mad too as he feels guilty. still he doesn’t really give me that aura now that I’ve dug deeper, he seems more abused than anything
He has parents and a brother he's on insta but he hasn't given any updates honestly after kwangya building vibrations I am scared they could be targeting his family and his kitty kkoong too now. He lives in the same complex just behind sm's company building They even monetized his pet kkoong he said she was like his guardian angel his only source of healing she's very popular among sh@wols the cat on my pfp is kkoong actually they made an insta account for his cat and him taemggung and sold merch using his and his pet cats name I wonder where all the money went it's scary how much control 5m has over him this is giving me flashbacks to free britney stuff and how controlled she was I hope we get an update soon I am worried for him
About Sirius I read that Egyptians worshipped the star I am a Muslim there is a chapter in our Holy book named "The star" in which Sirius is mentioned by name and pagans and non believers told not to worship Sirius so personally I believe it is important for them more shocking thing is I read an article somewhere it said that helialical rising of Sirius which is when the star becomes visible in the sky was calculated by 2nd century Egyptians to be on 19th July and it mostly occurs in Cancer season T@emin was born on 18th July coincidence again??? Maybe 5m loved him so much not because he is very talented and hardworking but bcz he has some special occult energy they want for their rituals and they are trying so hard to get him back to becoming an industry puppet because of the same reason
here is an article explaining importance of the Star "Sirius" it is quite long but even if you read some parts it is enough to understand that it is important for them and about them being moon worshippers also this article's name reminds me that sh1nee has a song called "Why so Serious" and guess who was the main star of that song and music video??? yes Lee Francesco T@emin coincidence again????
 
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Exactly, I’m not listening to anything from $m. Also does t@emin not have siblings or family/ friends that have updated fans. Cause if they’ve been silent too maybe $m has made them sign some contract or threatened them.

Yes found the article hahah it was actually on this website: https://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/the-esoteric-interpretation-of-pinocchio/

Now that is just even more strange, it goes so deep. When I first got into so-called conspiracies with pizzag@te I thought that was it but it just led me deeper and deeper. That song yet again seems to be hinting at wanting to escape. I do wonder sometimes if t@emin was coerced into carrying some evil action out as part of a ritual and now he regrets it, maybe that is driving him mad too as he feels guilty. still he doesn’t really give me that aura now that I’ve dug deeper, he seems more abused than anything
T@emin has been showing himself with hands tied or abused in his MVs since press your number in 2016 it was the first album they gave him some control over if he keeps repeating the same themes again and again there has to be some reason behind it I really feel like he was coerced into joining the cult even if has done a lot to promote their agendas and participated in evil stuff behind the scenes he was crying in his enlistment announcement Vlive he thanked fans for supporting him for 13 years and he talked about being scared lonely and anxious about the future. He looked miserable in his last solo concert he ended the concert saying "please love me" I honestly think he was trying to seek some kind of help I believe he is one of the few who are innocent and still have some sense of conscience left in them even compared to his members he doesn't seem to have much freedoms he has no brand sponsorships despite being the most popular member of sh1nee key and minho have brand sponsorships and 0new m1nho, k3y all are regular cast members in various variety shows key said taemin doesn't even listen to kpop and he had a Christian worship song in his personal spotify playlist his bandmates even got more promo then him this year when he was supposedly the "golden boy" of 5m I used to think he was a spoiled brat and very deep into the occult but as I dug deeper I feel he is more of a slave than someone in power I mean look at how the industry treats him compared to Gdragon. They both are arguably the most influential male idol soloists in kpop post 2nd gen if Gdragon is the undisputed "King of Kpop" I believe t@emin is definitely the "Prince of Kpop" bcz even last year he was the most cited male idol by juniors as someone who they look up to he is only 2nd to Gd in having inspired Male and female idols to join the industry there is at least one taemin fan or a taemin clone in every major group after 2nd gen even big names like jeykey, j1m1n, ba3khyun and his besty ka1 have cited him as inspiration and he basically birthed 70-80% of all current main dancers even his senior tvxq changmin ripped off his MV IDEA in his latest comeback but despite having so much influence he gets no awards or no1s on charts compare that to GD who is still glorified as the king even after countless scandals people hype up even trash songs like bang bang bang and fantastic baby bcz GD's name is attached to them and he still gonna get a Pak on melon if they have a comeback I mean it's strange how GD gets a free pass for all of his scandals and is hyped up for even wearing a damn set of shoes while poor T@emin gets treated like a slave despite having a clean image AND no scandals imo the difference in treatment between these 2 kind of tells you who has sold their soul and who hasn't well for now of course we don't know if T@emin might end doing this too but so far I think he is a victim with little or no control I honestly feel so bad for him the industry took away his entire childhood and all of his 20s from him the man deserves to be free now. the tarot lady said he has survivor's guilt I feel like it could be related to jjong's death like he feels guilty for not being able to do something bcz the symbolism in his MVs about mkultra and themes about wanting to break free became more prominent after 2017 regardless I hope he survives he is a practicing catholic and I know suicide is a grave sin in Catholicism so I hope his faith prevents him from following jj0ng's footsteps and he uses this time to connect with God bcz only God can save him from this situation However It would be interesting to see his comeback post enlistment if he has one idk how much control they will give him but I believe we might get something darker and much more personal maybe something similar to britney's blackout or k$sha's Praying
 
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I respectfully disagree sh1nee were devastated all of them in the concert and his funeral and T@emin's panic attacks were clearly bcz of overwork not bcz of guilt he was white for weeks everyone saw it coming one of his staff members were hospitalized bcz of overwork now were they guilty too???? Sh!nee cared for him and everyone handles grief differently not every person is going to like bawling out in public when you are being photographed with 100 cameras it is unfair to judge someone for not crying enough on a funeral and I don't trust that ranfan person past users have said some things she/he said were not correct or some truth mixed with lies and I have never conversed with them myself so I'd take everything they said with a grain of salt sh1nee might have known bcz As you said his death was preplanned however putting all the blame on them is unfair however you will only believe what you want to believe so me telling you anything isn't going to change your mind I suggest @Generalwatermelon to make their own conclusions after doing their own research instead of just reading a few posts about sh1nee and j0nghyun on a thread
I don’t know about that.. the fact they were able to put on a concert less than two months after Jonghyun’s “death”?
 

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Noooo not his cat, disgusting if they touch an innocent animal. Omg i thought that was your cat or something XD I am glad he has an animal, they’re the only beings that can’t be corrupted. He might be surrounded by abusers but his cat will always be a source of comfort. It’s quite sickening how companies manage to monetise everything, it reminds me of jk and bam. I didn’t know that it can’t be a good thing to worship then. I am very curious about worshipping planets I I hate how it’s always about pushing us away from our religions, further from Islam, Christianity, whatever you pratice. That would make sense, birthdays are important to them. Isn’t there a whole thing about V being a moonchild or something? I’m going to read that it’s always good to get more info to help me understand occult rituals and so on. T@emin seems to be the main focus during these occult things. Is he the only one with occult energy in $hinee you believe or anyone else has it? Also are the centres of kpop groups normally the ones with the most occult enegery perhaps? (*Also that thing about the building moving is freaking me out, like wtf for real I was shocked, wth was it like what really moved it? Ritual taking place?)
Kkoong is so pretty she is one of the most beautiful kittens I have seen it's great that he has her to rely on honestly I believe jj0ng could be just as much if not more important for the occult then T@e because he played quite a huge role in helping T@e become the artist he is today and he was the center of the group in their group promotions in korea T@e only started getting really popular in 2013 before that he used to be the most mocked member with the whole being tone deaf and feminine image they pushed on him he received a lot of flak from sh@wols for being the first one to debut too because everyone thought jj0ng was more deserving T@e only started being truly respected as an artist in 2016 with the release of press it before that it was always jj0ng who was the favored member Idk if centers are chosen based on who has more occult energy but maybe it is true was GD the center in BB??
 

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Yes exactly maybe YG favours him for some reason, perhaps he has a greater behind the scenes role than imagined? And you’re absolutely right that they did. However, I’m wondering who the first real occult involved kpop artist/ s was. Were seotaiji and boys into it, the sechskies? Because imo it seems that every year more and more is thrown in particularly pedo stuff. Correct me if I’m wrong but when I look at bb or older groups even shinee or exo I see more lucifer/ baphomet style symbolism but less pedo codes as opposed to groups like enh*pen txt* etc. They probably are more evil, I believe most bt$ members are more slaves/ abused whilst bigbang have more control actively seeking and maybe even controlling younger artists. Jk will never be ‘the next t@emin‘ if that is what they want. B*ghit is so unoriginal. Yes I totally agree at the end of the day it means they must have a least part of their old self if they are aware and upset with their condition. I will make sure to check this thread then hahaha if it’s still around.
well I think the occult influence was always there but it became more prominent after TVXQ and BB became famous but yeah earlier male groups used to have the bad boy image and more feminine looking idols were mocked for being talentless I do think that female idols were still sexualized very heavily especially by JYP ent but for males yes the sexualization of minors like they do today was quite uncommon with actually from what I've heard it seems like sh1nee were the first group to popularize the "flower boy" look they never had the hardcore bad boy look and it seems like they were the mould on which x-0 were later created because when x-0 debuted they were called a group of visuals I think maybe 5m heavily sexualizing T@e during sherlock and luc1fer era might've started the trend of the pedo symbolism among minor male idols and yes I agree Jeykey won't be the next GD or T@emin he is too basic he's more likely to become korea Justin bieber or harry styles the concept suits him more
 

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Yes poor guy he seems to be struggling and completely stuck. The thing is whilst it’s good he has faith Korea is known for their cult churches. If I am correct I think even jyp is in one? So I do wonder if $m only lets him go to one of the creepy ones where he can be supervised. You made me laugh calling BBB and fantastic baby trash. For real tho trash they are, it’s upsetting their songs with the biggest gd influnce are the most popular. I understand he is unique and can be captivating but sometimes I don’t get why his music is so popular. I wouldn’t be surprised if he uses spells in his music to captivate more people. Also gd is obsessed with his birthday year 1988, would you happen to know if that year has any significance in the occult? Yeah gd probably has gone the extra step in terms of selling his soul. Ironically though after ‘selling his soul’ he seems to have more freedom than t@emin music and personal life wise. It’s quite unfair. Will $m allow him to do a dark concept? Or try and conceal his suffering?
Yes korea has a cult culture but his family is religious so I hope they help him find a good church free from the bad corruption. I guess GD became popular because he had push from the elites' or because he was unique so it helped him stand out there is also the whole being a self produced idol idol thing which is kind of unfair because I would rather listen to an artist who doesn't write their music but releases good music then someone who is self produced but releases trash music for me BB had great music for their time but their music sure has aged like milk it just feels very cringe and outdated now Idk about 1988 but he was born in the year of dragon correct?? so maybe it is imp I will have to see. We will have to wait and see what direction T@e takes in the future if he still continues to rebel I am sure we are gonna get a blackout type album about dark stuff his music has always been dark and Criminal and Advice were already pretty blatant about the MKultra so I don't think 5m is gonna stop him but we will have to wait and see if they are successful in making him sell his soul then yeah we might get something like GDs music with heavy occult symbolism but I really hope he doesn't go that route I just really want an album where he has full creative control his NGDA act 1 and 2 was already 1 of my most favourite albums of all time in kpop and he did have more control than he usually does but definitely not like jjong or GDs level of control so It wpuld be great how great of an album he releases if he is given full creative control I just think that artists always release their best music when they have more creative control so it is a shame 5m doesn't let their artist have much control
 

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just searched her up, she is one adorable kitten awww. ohh I didn’t know he was so popular I thought t@emin had always been the most popular one. I wonder what made it change with press it though? He is indeed I mean he gets the most lines, most solo opportunities and had so much influence in writing the songs. Not like official center but the member with the most privileges. Jk I wondered if he had occult energy but he is hard to read.
Jjong certainly had more privileges then most 5m artists there were many things only he was allowed to do like collab with an YG artist which if u are aware YG and 5m have a bad beef going on he also trained exo's vocal line and T@emin so he seemed to have power in 5m maybe everything is quite confusing with him some people say he was a victim who did nothing wrong but then there were some aspects of his career and the symbolism he showed in his MVs which points to him being someone in power he apparently had a pretty good relationship with LSM too so yeah jj0ng is a confusing figure. Press it was just a really great quality album plus 5m went all out with promo Press it was really the only time T@e was a real "Golden boy" of 5m he was everywhere during the 2016-17 era and not too surprisingly it was also the era where he promoted occult agendas the most "Move" was his peak career wise and it was where I believe the whole "Idol of Idols" thing and GD comparisons started and we know it was all about the gender neutral agenda so yeah It kind of tells you how things work inside in the industry you only get good promo and respect if you are willing to push their agendas but for me personally It was his least favorite title track for me not because of the gender neutral thing but it is the most basic title track of his both music and dance wise this is an unpopular opinion but I believe the true gems in his discography are his ballads and just the more vocal and musically inclined tracks in his discography are superior to the dance based music he is known for
 
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It seems the occult’s agendas have changed (at least in Korea) so rapidly in just ten years. This is what has made me question whether there isn’t just one head family of the occult/ Illuminati but they actually are kind of warring with each other? Like how do we go from let’s say segregation era in America to blm and genderqueer agenda in such a short period. Idk why would the illuminati’s views change so quick. You know it’s funny cause shinee compared to groups now doesn’t even seem that feminine haha. It’s interesting to see how it’s evolved though. Also I know flowerboy isn’t so popular on this thread haha cause it’s kind of effiminate but I have to admit I prefer it to bad boy which seems forced. Flowerboy seems like the sweet boy next door type. For sure, he’ll have the basic pop style girls love.
I think it has changed in the west too we have a more flower boy type of image pushed for male artists everywhere now but I agree I much prefer the flower boy to the bad boy image cause it is more detrimental for the society the flower boy is effeminate sure but they are portrayed as gentlemen most of the time which is great bad boy on the other hand can push the harmful fantasy of being in love with actual criminals and a-holes which is much worse imo Alphabet boy is probably gonna release some basic pop garbage which is very public friendly and gets him famous among american teen girls but nothing ground breaking with substance also this is my opinion only but I think the true golden era of kpop was the 2nd gen and 2nd gen idols seem to me to be the most deeply invovled in the occult too
 
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