BTS discussion thread

[Laura755y]

I'd like to bring up a new point of discussion, which I don't think I've seen discussed anywhere in the thread yet, or in general at all to be honest.
It relates to btß too, but it is also a more general point about mind control/mk ultra and its symbolism.
Have yall noticed these suspender trousers ? Especially with one strap to the side, as if it is not fitting properly ?
Like its aalll over the place, pretty much every suspected mk victim wears it at some point.
It is so odd looking, and obviously doesn't have to do anything with being just an "edgy" fashion item, I don't recall seeing people, especially adults, wearing these, like ever to be honest. Their def not a hot fashion item.
I've included a wide range of examples for you to see what I mean when I say it is a very widespread symbol. (including examples without trousers, but where its just the strap hanging to the side). Theres tons more examples, but Im sure you get the point.

But I am still wondering what exactly it could mean, or why exactly that symbol.
Does anyone know if there is something like a famous disney character who wears something like that ?
My guesses are:
1. maybe its just humiliation becuz of how odd it looks
2. It's associated as a more childish item, so maybe it relates to the infantilization of the slaves/maybe even symbolizes a child alter personality ?
3. The strap to the side could be an allusion to sex#al abuse/having been messed with
Anyone have any other guesses/thoughts and theories ?

Thank you first i've never noticed this.
And what i found was that maybe the overalls aka suspender trousers could be a symbol taken from a book named " to kill the mockingbird".
It also could have something to do with pedophila sence we know that kids wears em the most, and not only idols wears em but i noticed alot of other artists did/do.
I found this article pretty interesting, it shows what i meant by the pedo symbols...

 

[Strawberrypie]

f him for even telling his fans to sneak in RIGHT BEFORE THE CONCERT STARTED, if he’s gonna be cheap and hire just barely enough security and medics for his 55 thousand capacity venue why tf did he just tell thousands of fans to show up for free? it’s not just how useless he was during it, it’s the way he apologized with the notes app acting like he had nothing to do with it. yeah i saw him call for medics once or twice but !! people WERE DYING, just stop the concert man how are you “performing” when there’s dead bodies around tf

now personally i believe this kinda “mistake” won’t happen in kpop since companies value ticket $ too much. but i do hope this is a good lesson for everyone

Trainees have died or committed suicide. There's idols that killed themselves and got sick because of mistreatment. The cases of Kim Jungkook and East Light are the most harrowing I've reading in kpop.



The t×t and btees members are working out. It's very noticeable that a few of the members are buff when the company prefers twinks. What caused them to change their image so much? Bg started working out after Bang told him that he looked pretty with pigtails. That was going to be his concept for the last comeback. Jk used to be very tiny but buffed up along with Rm. Bullies don't strike people who can beat their asses.

Sorry to derail but wanted to show that kpop companies don't give a damn about their idols. They're the least powerful person in the company. Everything is done to ensure their disenfranchisement.

 

[Berrywon88]

They just tried to point something out. it's clear english isn't their first language, you should've asked what their post meant instead of attacking their english immediately. A member making grammatical mistakes doesn't automatically make them a bighit staff, there are lots of non-korean members here. You need to stop taking things too personally because not everyone that replies to you with a different viewpoint is a troll/army.

Let me address a few things and then be done with this.
1.) I said "maybe" these recent accounts were bh staff. Maybe being the operative word. I did not say they actually were. Plus, it's certain grammatical mistakes that have been made that peaked my suspension. No two people write the same way. Also, the accounts I'm referring to will either be posting random crap that has nothing to do with b*s, attacking a post, or calling us pathetic, insane etc.
2.) If someone comes on here soley to disagree with everyone and not provide anything else to the conversation well that's sus to me. Sorry.
3.) Lastly, I'm noticing patterns. One being these "troll" accounts show up when we talk about certain topics. Today we talked about hype and here we are.

 

[somewhat_yuna]

Let me address a few things and then be done with this.
1.) I said "maybe" these recent accounts were bh staff. Maybe being the operative word. I did not say they actually were. Plus, it's certain grammatical mistakes that have been made that peaked my suspension. No two people write the same way. Also, the accounts I'm referring to will either be posting random crap that has nothing to do with b*s, attacking a post, or calling us pathetic, insane etc.
2.) If someone comes on here soley to disagree with everyone and not provide anything else to the conversation well that's sus to me. Sorry.
3.) Lastly, I'm noticing patterns. One being these "troll" accounts show up when we talk about certain topics. Today we talked about hype and here we are.

Okay thank you, i didn't really understand your other posts accusing people.

 

[ThatGirlX]

Let me address a few things and then be done with this.
1.) I said "maybe" these recent accounts were bh staff. Maybe being the operative word. I did not say they actually were. Plus, it's certain grammatical mistakes that have been made that peaked my suspension. No two people write the same way. Also, the accounts I'm referring to will either be posting random crap that has nothing to do with b*s, attacking a post, or calling us pathetic, insane etc.
2.) If someone comes on here soley to disagree with everyone and not provide anything else to the conversation well that's sus to me. Sorry.
3.) Lastly, I'm noticing patterns. One being these "troll" accounts show up when we talk about certain topics. Today we talked about hype and here we are.

Peep how they change their grammar from post to post too, like you can't make a nonsensical post one minute and then come back with perfect grammar, that's sus as hell. Also, and this might come off wrong or offensive but i honestly don't give a fuck so here it goes: English isn't my first language so i do know or i can see clearly when someone is faking having a bad English or not: these troll accounts absolutely butch certain words in their posts but suddenly other words more complex than the butchered ones they do know how to spell?? Like, tell me you're downplaying your English knowledge without telling me so. They think they're really slick and i'm convinced is the same one or two people.

 

[isabee]

like you can't make a nonsensical post one minute and then come back with perfect grammar, that's sus as hell.

i noticed that too. weird :/
i honestly think they do it to derail the convo especially when we start making really interesting realizations... but thankfully we're pretty good at ignoring/deflecting the trolls

 

[taepeach]

People are saying someone was going around injecting drugs into people, including a security guard.

Astroworld security guard pricked in neck with needle, Houston police say

At least one person at the Travis Scott concert where eight people died Friday night was injected with something by an unknown, “needle” wielding assailant, and had to be revived with N…

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woah! hobi has nothing related/connected to this event but i wonder if hes aware of this or what would his reaction be since he looks up to travis scott and watches his concerts

 

[jem123]

Peep how they change their grammar from post to post too, like you can't make a nonsensical post one minute and then come back with perfect grammar, that's sus as hell. Also, and this might come off wrong or offensive but i honestly don't give a fuck so here it goes: English isn't my first language so i do know or i can see clearly when someone is faking having a bad English or not: these troll accounts absolutely butch certain words in their posts but suddenly other words more complex than the butchered ones they do know how to spell?? Like, tell me you're downplaying your English knowledge without telling me so. They think they're really slick and i'm convinced is the same one or two people.

the trolls are having "MULTIPLE ACCOUNTS DISORDER" lol

 

[Berrywon88]

Peep how they change their grammar from post to post too, like you can't make a nonsensical post one minute and then come back with perfect grammar, that's sus as hell. Also, and this might come off wrong or offensive but i honestly don't give a fuck so here it goes: English isn't my first language so i do know or i can see clearly when someone is faking having a bad English or not: these troll accounts absolutely butch certain words in their posts but suddenly other words more complex than the butchered ones they do know how to spell?? Like, tell me you're downplaying your English knowledge without telling me so. They think they're really slick and i'm convinced is the same one or two people.

YES! I noticed and was like wtf. They used the difficult words "futile" and "refrain" that's not used in everyday speech when responding back to me. They almost had me cracking open a dictionary with that post lol. I was scratching my head because what they wrote before was like you said nonsensical. It was like 2 different people. Your observation is spot on. It never crossed my mind that they could be faking it until you mentioned it. I think you're right. It's not just this account but many others doing this. If this kind of bizarre behavior is not trolling than I don't know what is.

 

[Berrywon88]

27 thousand likes. I don't even know what to say anymore.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1457122067330043904

 

[somewhat_yuna]

27 thousand likes. I don't even know what to say anymore.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1457122067330043904

now you know damn well they only see him as beautiful cuz he "protects" their boys. If oli london was in his place they'd be simping over him too/

 

[swayy000]

Oh no, I didn't mean it like the mental issues are a part of the "characters".
(although intrestingly, mental health issues does seem to be a part of their comeback concept this time, in some of the concept pics the members are seen around a lot of food, or shopping bags, to suggest some kind of eating disorder, shopping disorder maybe ?)
Oh wow, I didn't think about that lol, maybe they're trying to say something with that ?
But anyway,
I did mean the actual members behind the cameras. I have been following them for like since the beginning of this year, and have watched many of their contents, including older stuff. What I meant was, that, according to my (subjective) observations, I think their mental health has worsened, or something must have happened. (not that it was ever good to begin with, being an industry slave since a younger age). Examples include yeonj#ns and beomgy#s very very noticable weight loss, and just their overall demeanour/vibe just seems off to me somehow. Their appearances have changed a lot in this comeback too (probs surgery), and also showing signs of abuse, like zoning out, which is something the member taehy#n does a lot, but the others too sometimes. Their vids have also been getting darker and I suspect maybe they went up some ranks in the occult, but had to endure more abuse for it, or something along those lines. Overall they look really worn out and exhausted to me, like wayy to exhausted for a group that debuted only like 2 years ago.

the reason why t ex t are always surrounded by food is because of p*dophilia code. I analyzed y3onjuns act:boy concept photos before in the kpop thread. whenever you see junk food, candies, etc. its in reference to that. Thats why in the fake love mv jh0pe was locked in a room surrounded by snickers candy bars and carnival toys, its the same meaning

 

[Strawberrypie]

That description of st#ay kidz had me cracking up xD
I do agree that their music is definitely not varied enough, it's pretty much the same every time and I really didn't like their recent comeback song.
Regarding enhyp#n I actually disagree, I think they have lots of potential for the future. Vocally, they have some really nice voices and the members are all very "visual". As a group they also have a more harmonious vibe than t#t.
Regarding t#t I definitely agree, the group as a whole is just very awkward to me, as in their social vibe. And its gotten worse too. I dunno, but they just don't have that chemistry, and it is really noticeable. It is also hard to ignore their very obvious mental health/eating disorder/abuse/trauma issues which have also gotten worse and worse. I also don't think their fanbase can really expand, they really do have that vibe of being "characters", and give me heavy mind control vibes.

I had to go back to my post lol.

woah! hobi has nothing related/connected to this event but i wonder if hes aware of this or what would his reaction be since he looks up to travis scott and watches his concerts

I like to think he'd care. A few of them seem disconnected from reality, but he's more down to Earth.

 

[Strawberrypie]

woah :-O wdym? i'm not very familiar with t+t. are the mental disorders part of their 'characters', or do you mean the actual members?

That bts tarot account said they use the traumas as part of their concept. They did a photoshoot that included each member's problems, like Yj's eating disorder. There was food around him like he was a binge eater.

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Here's all of the concepts.

Yeonjun: Eating Disorder
Beomgyu: Depression
Hueningkai: Cyber addiction / Escapism
Taehyun: Social Anxiety
Soobin: Hoarding or OCD

Bh really doesn't give a fuck. Anything is fair game for profit and entertainment. They've shown these traits and the company used it as a concept. They used btees issues in their videos and game.

Yj likely has an eating disorder. Bg showed depression for a while until he was suddenly too excited. Th clings to Sb in social situations because he's uncomfortable.

Sb has shown ocd and rage not proportionate to the reason he's angry. Not sure about Hk because I don't watch his content that much.

 

[Strawberrypie]

the reason why t ex t are always surrounded by food is because of p*dophilia code. I analyzed y3onjuns act:boy concept photos before in the kpop thread. whenever you see junk food, candies, etc. its in reference to that. Thats why in the fake love mv jh0pe was locked in a room surrounded by snickers candy bars and carnival toys, its the same meaning

I thought it was cruel to surround Yj with food when he's not allowed to eat it during diets and struggles with self image. Some moas think the pineapple pizza comment one of them made was very odd. Did you see the Act Boy concert? I have some pictures if you need any.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Oh no, I didn't mean it like the mental issues are a part of the "characters".
(although intrestingly, mental health issues does seem to be a part of their comeback concept this time, in some of the concept pics the members are seen around a lot of food, or shopping bags, to suggest some kind of eating disorder, shopping disorder maybe ?)
Oh wow, I didn't think about that lol, maybe they're trying to say something with that ?
But anyway,
I did mean the actual members behind the cameras. I have been following them for like since the beginning of this year, and have watched many of their contents, including older stuff. What I meant was, that, according to my (subjective) observations, I think their mental health has worsened, or something must have happened. (not that it was ever good to begin with, being an industry slave since a younger age). Examples include yeonj#ns and beomgy#s very very noticable weight loss, and just their overall demeanour/vibe just seems off to me somehow. Their appearances have changed a lot in this comeback too (probs surgery), and also showing signs of abuse, like zoning out, which is something the member taehy#n does a lot, but the others too sometimes. Their vids have also been getting darker and I suspect maybe they went up some ranks in the occult, but had to endure more abuse for it, or something along those lines. Overall they look really worn out and exhausted to me, like wayy to exhausted for a group that debuted only like 2 years ago.

They look old for their age. Btees in comparison was youthful two years into their debut. I'm a Moa so if you need any info, let me know.

 

[Strawberrypie]

27 thousand likes. I don't even know what to say anymore.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1457122067330043904

That was their ass beater. He's now head of security at HVBE.

 

[Strawberrypie]

Vee is the most mysterious about his siblings ,he never talks about them and no one knows their names,ages or what they look like...just know that he is the oldest

RMm doesnt talk about his sister either

Jimn talks about his brother occassionally and showed a video of him once with his face blurred but I saw a pic of him from one of their concerts and he looks just like debut jimn

Yn brother came to a concert and took pics with them as did jn brother and h0pe sister is smart using her connection to him to expand her own brand/name

Jk brother used to do drawings of them but never seen what he looks like

Most other idols arent like that-kai has shown his sister and his little niece and nephew and they are adorable

Ten is seen with his sister alot

Eun woo talked a enough about his brother that I know he is younger than eun woo,he has already completed his military duty ,he is in china attending university and apparently is even more handsome than his famous older brother

But with btss other than h0pe sister there isnt much

Bh is trying to be more authentic and organic with t×t and Enpipen. Sb ha shown his nephew, his pet hedgehog and it's well known who Hk's siblings are because they're also idols, former or current. I still wonder where they got btees from. I don't buy their stories. Reminds of the kids in Utopia. I won't spoil anything but those were truly hidden children. Also similar to Orphan Black.

 

[taepeach]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1457487681802276864

 

[Riko]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1457487681802276864

Who you wanna bet beat his ass? Sugarbaby Tae for the Chaebol mess or Kookie after he got sick of those shorts and coconut haircut once again?