Illuminatis: what they think about Lucifer?

[Jack W]

I saw this video almost two years ago about the meaning of Lucifer for the Illuminatis..I'm surprised about how differents are the points of views related the same subject. For the christians Lucifer is a demon ...for the Illuminati, Lucifer is a God.
And after all, does it matter if Lucifer is a God or a Demon?
I think is important the values and actions of the people whom follow Lucifer... and after my research I believe their values and actions are mostly bad.

Besides what we believe about spirituals things like God, creation, etc...I believe is important to not lose the knowledge of what is good and what is bad... have good values and take good actions. I think the people who follow the Luciferian's values are walking in the wrong path.
And they should chose another religion or create another religion or just follow good values. The people inside the Illuminati Elite or Octagon need to make a change and start a new path. A path of positives things..like love and peace. Everybody is free to choose their path.
Only fear can make you choose the wrong path.. but if you listening your heart in silence, you know what is right.

subs are in english, not so good.

 

[Apheirox]

I think is important the values and actions of the people whom follow Lucifer... and after my research I believe their values and actions are mostly bad.

They were behind the september 11 2001 event. I think it´s difficult to say much positive about that event beside the fact it has caused some of us normal people to ´wake up´. It´s probably very difficult to talk any sense into the Luciferians, though, since they tend to believe they´re smarter than everyone else.

Service to Self - Ascension Glossary

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[Jack W]

It´s probably very difficult to talk any sense into the Luciferians, though, since they tend to believe they´re smarter than everyone else.

It's not easy...but I still have hope.

 

[Apheirox]

Then I think you´re not quite realizing what is going on. The Luciferians have been working to overthrow our societies for hundreds of years or more. Now they´re nearing the finish line. They´re not going to back down. This is biblical prophecy unfolding and culminating.

 

[TokiEl]

I saw this video almost two years ago about the meaning of Lucifer for the Illuminatis..

There is a hidden message in the apple logo as shown in the clip you posted at 3:15.

Alien tech

Our sudden technological knowhow is closely connected with aliens/demons.

 

[Orwell's mentor]

Then I think you´re not quite realizing what is going on. The Luciferians have been working to overthrow our societies for hundreds of years or more. Now they´re nearing the finish line. They´re not going to back down. This is biblical prophecy unfolding and culminating.

A "prophecy" that's been altered/edited by them and they've been doing this for centuries so of course it's going to look that way. Don't buy any of what they're selling because they feed off of it.

Make no mistake, the Creator ALWAYS has the last word.

 

[TokiEl]

A "prophecy" that's been altered/edited by them and they've been doing this for centuries so of course it's going to look that way. Don't buy any of what they're selling because they feed off of it.

Make no mistake, the Creator ALWAYS has the last word.

The Creator is the God of the bible... so the bible has not been altered.

What is written in God's book... must come to pass...

 

[Orwell's mentor]

The Creator is the God of the bible... so the bible has not been altered.

What is written in God's book... must come to pass...

Whatever...

 

[Daze]

And after all, does it matter if Lucifer is a God or a Demon?

Yep, it does matter.

Lucifer is satan, yes?
Satan was created, yes?

He is creation having no power what so ever until God allows it. yes?

Satan is as far from being a deity as i am from being a woman.


I will never understand the Christian concept of satan.


When the reality is

Obviously this is a weak picture but there are none that compare a solar system with a flea.

Still, you get the jist.


Its a joke, literally. There is only 1 god and nothing within the creation could ever compare.

 

[TokiEl]

I will never understand the Christian concept of satan.

You don't understand because you don't study God's book.


Matthew 4 8Again, the devil took Him to a very high mountain and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9“All this I will give You,” he said, “if You will fall down and worship me.”

10“Away from Me, Satan!” Jesus declared. “For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve Him only.’d”

11Then the devil left Him, and angels came and ministered to Him.

 

[Jack W]

Then I think you´re not quite realizing what is going on. The Luciferians have been working to overthrow our societies for hundreds of years or more. Now they´re nearing the finish line. They´re not going to back down. This is biblical prophecy unfolding and culminating.

Sometimes plans go to hell... Sometimes people change their mind...

 

[Jack W]

Yep, it does matter.

Lucifer is satan, yes?
Satan was created, yes?

He is creation having no power what so ever until God allows it. yes?

Satan is as far from being a deity as i am from being a woman.


I will never understand the Christian concept of satan.
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Obviously this is a weak picture but there are none that compare a solar system with a flea.

Still, you get the jist.


Its a joke, literally. There is only 1 god and nothing within the creation could ever compare.

According your religion is important to distinguish god and satan. But for agnostics is not important make that distinguish , because they don't believe in god or satan. That's why I mentionated that is not relevant our spirituals believes , what's really matter are our good values and actions.

 

[Journeyman]

I saw this video almost two years ago about the meaning of Lucifer for the Illuminatis..I'm surprise about how differents are the points of views about the same subject. For the christians Lucifer is a demon .. for the Illuminati, Lucifer is a God.
And after all, does it matter if Lucifer is a God or a Demon?
I think is important the values and actions of the people whom follow Lucifer... and after my research I believe their values and actions are mostly bad.

Besides what we believe about spirituals things like God, creation, etc...I believe is important to not lose the knowledge of what is good and what is bad... have good values and take good actions. I think the people who follow the Luciferian's values are walking in the wrong path.
And they should chose another religion or create another religion or just follow good values. The people inside the Illuminati Elite or Octagon need to make a change and start a new path. A path of positives things..like love and peace. Everybody is free to choose their path.
Only fear can make you choose the wrong path.. but if you listening your heart in silence, you know what is right.

subs are in english, not so good.

This is a big question. It's big because to answer it requires the answer to two further questions, who are the illuminati and what or who is Lucifer? I can't pretend to know the answers to either, but I've seen a lot of speculation on both.

On the Illuminati, are they just one faction amongst competing secret societies and bloodlines or is there a strictly defined hierarchy with a coherent theology? Are some openly satanic, whilst others would be more properly described as pagan?

Lucifer is to some another name for the Devil, for others the 'bright morning star' which Jesus is described as. There's links to the 'divine feminine', the light bringer figure from the myth of Prometheus and even a 6th D group soul contracted to assist in our spiritual evolution by providing polarity and thus the chance to exercise free will.

 

[Daze]

According your religion is important to distinguish god and satan. But for agnostics is not important make that distinguish , because they don't believe in god or satan. That's why I mentionated that is not relevant our spirituals believes , what's really matter are our good values and actions.

Its satanic / evil to put the devil on some kind of deity level when he literally has no power other then that of invitation. However, its more evil to deny the existence of a Creator. Interestingly enough you have to believe in some kind of god to join the masons, who most say are the illuminati (the masons are an infiltrated group, but i digress).

The comparison is highly relevant as you are comparing a flea to the cosmos.

Good actions can bring no benefit in the akhirah if they are not coupled with belief. If you are agnostic then we'll have to agree to disagree. As there are literally millions of proofs of God, there are also more then a billion atheists as some are blocked from belief due to blackened hearts brought on by previous actions. Basically the more evil one takes part in, the more difficult it will be for one to believe.

I only say these things because they are the reality, but some will have to wait for death to be able to realize them.

Peace.

 

[mhmdv]

A "prophecy" that's been altered/edited by them and they've been doing this for centuries so of course it's going to look that way. Don't buy any of what they're selling because they feed off of it.

Make no mistake, the Creator ALWAYS has the last word.

What's the original prophecy then?

 

[Orwell's mentor]

What's the original prophecy then?

I'm not sure, but it's not what they're pushing and promoting 24/7, that's for sure. What we're currently experiencing is Theosophy/New World Order attempt. I did write about it earlier but it must've been on the earlier iteration of the boards, as I remember Karlysymon and I discussing it. As well, I remember mentioning either Alice Bailey or Helena Blavatsky and referencing their Wiki page because it did mention the year of their "New Age", which is 2025 but if you click on the hyperlinks, you'll find the year is no longer referenced. Reiner Fuellmich did mention that the original date for all of this psy-op was supposed to be 2050, but either a WHO or WEF whistleblower told him some got greedy and may explain why it's being done so haphazardly. Perhaps because they're pushing for the 2025 date...?

Essentially, it's freemasons/kabbalists/occultists doing they can to take over the world via "globalization" and make it look as though this is the end times, but when you do a little research, you'll see that's not what's happening at all. For starters, Bill Gates donates to Lucis Trust which is founded by Bailey, and that's should raise some suspicion. Add to it that Bill Gates' mother is a Maxwell and is related to Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine's father, then that too, should raise even more. Finally, when you add to the mix that the bible has been edited by Darby and Scolfield and then financed by Samuel Untermeyer to be published to subvert Christianity and obvious to their advantage, then the picture of what's really transpiring becomes clearer.

I could list other things, but in a nutshell, this appears to me to be zionists, talmudists and masons twisting words and events to suit their own interests, while they have people just sit back expect or assume that this is all "prophesized", when in fact, it's what they've contrived all along to make it appear that way.

 

[Jack W]

However, its more evil to deny the existence of a Creator.

I'm disagree. Everbody is free to believe in whatever they want. The only thing that's important are ours values and actions.
How are you so sure about your believes? Maybe we are living a dream...maybe religions are part of the prommation of ours minds...
We can only judges actions.

Good actions can bring no benefit in the akhirah if they are not coupled with belief

Not necesary-

 

[Daze]

How are you so sure about your believes?

Islam is the only religion with proofs.

 

[Jack W]

This is a big question. It's big because to answer it requires the answer to two further questions, who are the illuminati and what or who is Lucifer? I can't pretend to know the answers to either, but I've seen a lot of speculation on both.

Well, My position is that we can't answer this 2 questions with 100% of assurance. There are many theories about the spiritual subject, specially about God and Lucifer. I think the better solution is to put good values above religions.

myth of Prometheus and even a 6th D group soul c

Interesting

 

[Daze]

I think the better solution is to put good values above religions.

Sounds like new age doctrine, which is a religion within itself.