SKZ Discussion Thread

[guesswho]

stays are the next bts fans tbh

at this rate, yes. Hope they will understand that their actions aren't mature at all. They have an unhealthy obsession (ik it isn't the only fandom)

 

[guesswho]

Also didn't you talk abt connections? Do u think those who look alike in that JYP company might be related? like han and youngk, seungmin and wonpil, yeji and hyunjin etc

Might be a stupid point but it's too much of a resemblance

 

[queen82]

at this rate, yes. Hope they will understand that their actions aren't mature at all. They have an unhealthy obsession (ik it isn't the only fandom)

they're too brainwashed to understand, but i hope they did

 

[guesswho]

gotta admit tho, theyre not as blatant with the symbols or signs as other groups, i feel like theyre good at hiding it or they just got to where they are right now by doing shady things off camera.

btw, why do st4ys said that bc is jyp's son? umm???

remembered I read this earlier but forgot to answer. He called himself like that lol "I'm Jyp's son"

 

[Anonymous User]

remembered I read this earlier but forgot to answer. He called himself like that lol "I'm Jyp's son"

everyone treats BC higher and special not just as the oldest /leader and him calling himself jyp's son.. honestly we shouldn't be surprised he got to chose the members of the group, make the logo, and probably other many things plus he's the leader and he is the main producer in 3racha, I have a theory that he could be the handler of the group since jyp trusts him so much. Just don't know if he's the only one in the group but then again I can't point everything at BC cuz he's being handled too by probably their managers, and I have to remember handlers have handlers

 

[wow]

no matter how many times u watch it, u really can’t feel that there is happiness bc of seeing ur relatives after a long time, but maybe it’s bc they re-take scenes millions of times idk tho

omg yes they hug so awkwardly, glad im not the only one who noticed that, at least they getting food tho lmao.

View attachment 53153 here it's obvious (numbers + that hand sign on the car)

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in their video for Stay 2nd anniversary, there is a beehive, next to which is written "STAY WORLD", This isn't smthg innocent, it's related to freemasonry: "The Beehive often brings to mind a well organized group of insects working together for a common goal" (see full explanation here: http://www.masonrytoday.com/index.php?new_month=02&new_day=11&new_year=2020).

Also it's kinda concerning how they associate themselves with animals.

did they just may or may not purposely called st4ys a bunch of insects who work for them towards a certain goal? because thats a good analogy for what a fandom is, their fans are voting crazy just like other fandom does. also, they literally beg their fans a lot for voting for them, fel talked about it in bubble on how st4ys are their only hope and whatever happens or will happen, it is in the hand of st4ys, and i was like, sir youre literally begging for them to vote, this is so sad. and hj cried in the stage while begging for st4ys to not leave, i feel like theres a pattern here, they only use their fans to help them towards a certain goal and thats what bees are all about.

I didn't even like animal association when I was a fan, especially with Cb as a pig + rabbit, it felt so degrading

yeah, and i bet he is not okay with it since fans literally call him a pig all the time, like, the other members seem to get normal animals and then there cb...

remembered I read this earlier but forgot to answer. He called himself like that lol "I'm Jyp's son"

yea exactly, i wonder why, he could not just say that as a joke or sumn, also remember when fans blame jype's wifi because bc's live is lagging? and then he literally quick to scold them telling them "please dont blame everything on jyp, they have good wifi" lmao like g0t7 hate jyp so much and then theres this guy.

Also didn't you talk abt connections? Do u think those who look alike in that JYP company might be related? like han and youngk, seungmin and wonpil, yeji and hyunjin etc

Might be a stupid point but it's too much of a resemblance

idk, i think its an asian features thing, thats why non kpop stans always say "they all look the same", i dont see it because im used to it but yeah its soo weird that they look almost identical, especially sm and w0npil.

everyone treats BC higher and special not just as the oldest /leader and him calling himself jyp's son.. honestly we shouldn't be surprised he got to chose the members of the group, make the logo, and probably other many things plus he's the leader and he is the main producer in 3racha, I have a theory that he could be the handler of the group since jyp trusts him so much. Just don't know if he's the only one in the group but then again I can't point everything at BC cuz he's being handled too by probably their managers, and I have to remember handlers have handlers

i remember back when i was still in the bt5 thread, we talked about bt5 having a handler within the group, and i dont want to frame the guy as "the evil one" or sumn, but he does gives me cult leader vibes as i mentioned.

 

[guesswho]

everyone treats BC higher and special not just as the oldest /leader and him calling himself jyp's son.. honestly we shouldn't be surprised he got to chose the members of the group, make the logo, and probably other many things plus he's the leader and he is the main producer in 3racha, I have a theory that he could be the handler of the group since jyp trusts him so much. Just don't know if he's the only one in the group but then again I can't point everything at BC cuz he's being handled too by probably their managers, and I have to remember handlers have handlers

just how many victimes can a handler have?

 

[Sun443]

just how many victimes can a handler have?

I’m sorry what’s a handler?

 

[guesswho]

did they just may or may not purposely called st4ys a bunch of insects who work for them towards a certain goal? because thats a good analogy for what a fandom is, their fans are voting crazy just like other fandom does. also, they literally beg their fans a lot for voting for them, fel talked about it in bubble on how st4ys are their only hope and whatever happens or will happen, it is in the hand of st4ys, and i was like, sir youre literally begging for them to vote, this is so sad. and hj cried in the stage while begging for st4ys to not leave, i feel like theres a pattern here, they only use their fans to help them towards a certain goal and thats what bees are all about.

I don't know what is happenjing with HJ but they definitely told him to do a oscar worthy dramatic scene in that concert. "don't go anywhere stay" no way he broke down bc of how much he loves his fans. (btw this was after woojn's departure)

 

[guesswho]

I’m sorry what’s a handler?

a handler is someone who is in charge of mind controlling the victims, called "slaves"

 

[guesswho]

Just a theory that might be common knowledge but idk:

Concerning their good acting: I feel like as a group they are still "shy" among other groups, artists. They know they must control every move in front of the camera, if they breathe differently they will receive backlash and won't be seen as the group whose members are polite and want to always improve, very humble etc so they weren't any scandals coming.

SO, personally, befooore, I never thought they were close to having scandals (I admit I only thought this way bc of their variety programs, episodes etc). The 2020 ones (BC and HJ: cornrows and blackface) were scandals where fans "could" defend them by saying they didn't chose to do that, stylists and directors did, it wasn't their individual choice. That's what people said (there were other excuses as we know).

Now that they became famous, like have a huge influence, they had to do the usual ritual of humilition and had to bring smthg that they themselves did, ppl didn't have any ""proper"" excuse this time, " they were young, ignorant" doesn't work and it didn't ofc. When JYP said, in that excuse letter concerning HJ, that they will do a better job choosing their trainees in he future, there is literally no way they don't know what their artists did in the past. They surely know their background from A to Z, let's say from A to P.
They HAVE to know and have to find smthg to use against them in case they wanna rebel (even tho they can create it during their trainee days or even during their active years but still the past is smthg important, and this is based on the repercussions of the current bullying scandals).

So yeah even tho hj wasn't the only one who was hit with bullying allegations, it was a golden opportunity to "lift up" the group even more.

Tell me what u think

 

[Anonymous User]

just how many victimes can a handler have?

I wish I knew xD but it makes sense for a higher handler to have more

 

[Anonymous User]

Now that they became famous, like have a huge influence, they had to do the usual ritual of humilition and had to bring smthg that they themselves did, ppl didn't have any ""proper"" excuse this time, " they were young, ignorant" doesn't work and it didn't ofc. When JYP said, in that excuse letter concerning HJ, that they will do a better job choosing their trainees in he future, there is literally no way they don't know what their artists did in the past. They surely know their background from A to Z, let's say from A to P.
They HAVE to know and have to find smthg to use against them in case they wanna rebel (even tho they can create it during their trainee days or even during their active years but still the past is smthg important, and this is based on the repercussions of the current bullying scandals).

So yeah even tho hj wasn't the only one who was hit with bullying allegations, it was a golden opportunity to "lift up" the group even more.

Tell me what u think

Definitely, I even see stays posting more and more about hj and people hearing more about the group after the scandals, I also regard the scandals as something jyp definitely especially hn and when it happened I was like this is definitely a humiliation ritual even tho he was guilty

 

[wow]

Just a theory that might be common knowledge but idk:

Concerning their good acting: I feel like as a group they are still "shy" among other groups, artists. They know they must control every move in front of the camera, if they breathe differently they will receive backlash and won't be seen as the group whose members are polite and want to always improve, very humble etc so they weren't any scandals coming.

SO, personally, befooore, I never thought they were close to having scandals (I admit I only thought this way bc of their variety programs, episodes etc). The 2020 ones (BC and HJ: cornrows and blackface) were scandals where fans "could" defend them by saying they didn't chose to do that, stylists and directors did, it wasn't their individual choice. That's what people said (there were other excuses as we know).

Now that they became famous, like have a huge influence, they had to do the usual ritual of humilition and had to bring smthg that they themselves did, ppl didn't have any ""proper"" excuse this time, " they were young, ignorant" doesn't work and it didn't ofc. When JYP said, in that excuse letter concerning HJ, that they will do a better job choosing their trainees in he future, there is literally no way they don't know what their artists did in the past. They surely know their background from A to Z, let's say from A to P.
They HAVE to know and have to find smthg to use against them in case they wanna rebel (even tho they can create it during their trainee days or even during their active years but still the past is smthg important, and this is based on the repercussions of the current bullying scandals).

So yeah even tho hj wasn't the only one who was hit with bullying allegations, it was a golden opportunity to "lift up" the group even more.

Tell me what u think

yea definetly, i feel like all of their scandals were a humiliation ritual, especially wj's scandal of leaving the group.

I’m sorry what’s a handler?

to make it simple, the programmer for the MK ultra victims, the one who abused and control the victims

I don't know what is happenjing with HJ but they definitely told him to do a oscar worthy dramatic scene in that concert. "don't go anywhere stay" no way he broke down bc of how much he loves his fans. (btw this was after woojn's departure)

yeah, i feel like it is scripted because the members smiled a lot (?) and because wj was sooo famous especially among kfans, they are using hj which is the most famous member because he is the visual and he has the most fans, he was assigned to make them not leave the fanbase and make an emotional scene to empathize the fans so they wont leave fr, which is a smart move honestly.

also, yall not gonna act like fel literally have a crush on cb? when fans asked what is his ideal type and fel said cb because he is dark and muscular lmaoo, and its not the first time he said he has a crush on cb and wants to get a partner thats just like cb, its just sooo weird because imagine living together, trained tgether and became homies together but then you have a crush on your own friend? or wanting to have a partner that is similar to your own friend? who you see as a family? like that is soo weird to me, and they even made a song together, the lyrics are mediocre anyways.

 

[guesswho]

yeah, i feel like it is scripted because the members smiled a lot (?) and because wj was sooo famous especially among kfans, they are using hj which is the most famous member because he is the visual and he has the most fans, he was assigned to make them not leave the fanbase and make an emotional scene to empathize the fans so they wont leave fr, which is a smart move honestly.

yeah given the fans reactions, it was indeed a smart move

 

[Anonymous User]

also, yall not gonna act like fel literally have a crush on cb? when fans asked what is his ideal type and fel said cb because he is dark and muscular lmaoo, and its not the first time he said he has a crush on cb and wants to get a partner thats just like cb, its just sooo weird because imagine living together, trained tgether and became homies together but then you have a crush on your own friend? or wanting to have a partner that is similar to your own friend? who you see as a family? like that is soo weird to me, and they even made a song together, the lyrics are mediocre anyways.

I totally forgot about changlix, I used to think it was just a ship for fans but I do feel like its one-sided from Fl's side and the new song they made is so generic and basic

 

[guesswho]

also, yall not gonna act like fel literally have a crush on cb? when fans asked what is his ideal type and fel said cb because he is dark and muscular lmaoo, and its not the first time he said he has a crush on cb and wants to get a partner thats just like cb, its just sooo weird because imagine living together, trained tgether and became homies together but then you have a crush on your own friend? or wanting to have a partner that is similar to your own friend? who you see as a family? like that is soo weird to me, and they even made a song together, the lyrics are mediocre anyways.

I read some lyrics of the song and it feels nothing but pure fanservice and agenda pushing even what fl says abt cb might be true but it's first and foremost fanservice bc of how their ship was popular

btw im not saying telling ur friend that u like them is sus but they made that song 2gether so it was only to show smthg to the world, it wasn't necessarily genuine

 

[guesswho]

I feel like an amateur doing this. I want to know the meaning behind district 9 so bad, there are weird things there.

In the pics I posted, who is the one "checking" the other members? Doing idk what with smthg that looks like a barcode reader (probably giving them a new identity? "why are you talking like you know me though I don't even know myself") and giving them a red paper bc of which the members looked concerned after reading it? The leader. Also, there is 216 above that door: 2+1+6=9

There were tiny helicopters flying at the beginning, one of them fell and the glass broke, BC picked up the broken glass and stared at it. What does this mean? unfortunately I don't have the skills to analyze all of that.

 

[Anonymous User]

I feel like an amateur doing this. I want to know the meaning behind district 9 so bad, there are weird things there.

In the pics I posted, who is the one "checking" the other members? Doing idk what with smthg that looks like a barcode reader (probably giving them a new identity? "why are you talking like you know me though I don't even know myself") and giving them a red paper bc of which the members looked concerned after reading it? The leader. Also, there is 216 above that door: 2+1+6=9

There were tiny helicopters flying at the beginning, one of them fell and the glass broke, BC picked up the broken glass and stared at it. What does this mean? unfortunately I don't have the skills to analyze all of that.

We're all learning in this process so it's okay =), The one scanning or "checking the other members is BC and I know that because it starts out with eight boys then BC shows up with the machine and gives them the red paper, plus omg it just told us BC is the handler,

Wish I could read what it says, but probably just something mysterious for the MV

The red paper seems to be a plan BC gave them to escape from where they are to be free. Maybe the tiny helicopters could be predictive programming, Another note is how they go through another dimension through a glitch if it means anything

I might do an analysis on every music video they have at this point xD, I'm actually glad we have mv's cuz they tell us a lot and the control every aspect of it so it's less likely to be coincidental if you know what I mean

 

[guesswho]

We're all learning in this process so it's okay =), The one scanning or "checking the other members is BC and I know that because it starts out with eight boys then BC shows up with the machine and gives them the red paper, plus omg it just told us BC is the handler,

Wish I could read what it says, but probably just something mysterious for the MV

The red paper seems to be a plan BC gave them to escape from where they are to be free. Maybe the tiny helicopters could be predictive programming, Another note is how they go through another dimension through a glitch if it means anything

I might do an analysis on every music video they have at this point xD, I'm actually glad we have mv's cuz they tell us a lot and the control every aspect of it so it's less likely to be coincidental if you know what I mean

Thank u so much for the explanation! and ur right hehe.
that's what brought me immediately here: the fact that it was BC. can't say it's surprising.

I might do an analysis on every music video they have at this point xD, I'm actually glad we have mv's cuz they tell us a lot and the control every aspect of it so it's less likely to be coincidental if you know what I mean

yes I don't think they would put random things in their MVs