SKZ Discussion Thread

[swayy000]

truly everything was directed as to not make fans wanna look somewhere else, they made them look "perfect", not allowed to date to make it seem like they are available for the entitled fans, do fanservice even if it takes them to bark. And of course: the music itself

yup. its sad. The whole kpop industry was designed from the beginning for idolatry. Hence why the celebrities are even called "idols". Fans treat them like their gods, and the fan culture and fanservice is so intense, and they always leave the fans wanting more because their's content after content being thrown at them, without even them realizing that they are also secretly sneaking in all these agendas. Thats why i personally think kpop can also be very dangerous, and the whole industry is just a wolf in sheeps clothing. Its all fake

 

[Sun443]

sorry this might be long but this is my analysis~
wow. its blantant, right in your face. through your analysis, I think that hellevator is talking about how they are going straight to hell through this industry that they "got on" and they can't escape. The penthouse might represent hell also?
But this is similar to the use of trains ive noticed in other kpop music videos. For example ex0, a train is seen in the end of one of their mv's( im not sure which one), sh1nee with their new mv dont call me, @espas black mamba, and in tw1ce with their song cant stop me, and in one of t ex t's comeback lives and in magic island mv, there is train imagery as well. I always wondered why, but then while looking at the ending of cant stop me, all the members are on a speeding train that leads to an fiery abyss.View attachment 52959
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The imagery was similar to one of t ex t's comeback live, and the members are all on a train on top of a bridge, and its dark all around them, but suddenly there's fire all underneath the bridge and the bridge breaks, and the train along with the boys fall into the fire It immediately reminded me of tw1ces video and my analysis is how the train represents the state these idols are at now being in the music industry. They can't escape because they already chose to go on and it doesn't stop until they reach their destination, which is hell. Same for hellevator. For some of the trains in the kpop mvs, they make the inside look beautiful with flowers and butterflies, similar to the imaginary place in the hellavator mv. That place also reminds me of the place t ex t stop at in their magic island mv, where they reach this beautiful forest but then, the forest catches on fire and they all die. Whats interesting also is that as the place in on fire, they rush waiting for the train to come back but the lights on the train coming towards them are blue and green, which is the same color of the eyes of the cat in their storyline, and im pretty sure that cat represents the devil or something, but im not sure because I stopped watching kpop after I saw the truth and i never really looked into their storyline since... but the train completely passes them.View attachment 52964
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Its almost as if their company are mocking these idols too. Its like the fans are the ones being completely deceived, while the idols know that they are deceiving the fans, but little do THEY know that their company is not only deceiving the fans, but the idols as well.
Also I saw in a video that some of the members in str@y kids are catholic or Christian, is that true? Cause I saw that felix was christian, but its interesting that you said that he along with some other members were wearing a cross in that mv, so i think that they also might have intentionally made them wear that to mock their religion? Idk but it does make me mad. No one bats an eye when they see these idols mocking Christianity in the music videos.

thank you for explaining. And yes almost all of kpop songs have the same story from the train to going to “better place” idk how people don’t see it. It’s so clear and even they try to make it clear to us to show that they are not afraid of showing it.

 

[Sun443]

sorry this might be long but this is my analysis~
wow. its blantant, right in your face. through your analysis, I think that hellevator is talking about how they are going straight to hell through this industry that they "got on" and they can't escape. The penthouse might represent hell also?
But this is similar to the use of trains ive noticed in other kpop music videos. For example ex0, a train is seen in the end of one of their mv's( im not sure which one), sh1nee with their new mv dont call me, @espas black mamba, and in tw1ce with their song cant stop me, and in one of t ex t's comeback lives and in magic island mv, there is train imagery as well. I always wondered why, but then while looking at the ending of cant stop me, all the members are on a speeding train that leads to an fiery abyss.View attachment 52959
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The imagery was similar to one of t ex t's comeback live, and the members are all on a train on top of a bridge, and its dark all around them, but suddenly there's fire all underneath the bridge and the bridge breaks, and the train along with the boys fall into the fire It immediately reminded me of tw1ces video and my analysis is how the train represents the state these idols are at now being in the music industry. They can't escape because they already chose to go on and it doesn't stop until they reach their destination, which is hell. Same for hellevator. For some of the trains in the kpop mvs, they make the inside look beautiful with flowers and butterflies, similar to the imaginary place in the hellavator mv. That place also reminds me of the place t ex t stop at in their magic island mv, where they reach this beautiful forest but then, the forest catches on fire and they all die. Whats interesting also is that as the place in on fire, they rush waiting for the train to come back but the lights on the train coming towards them are blue and green, which is the same color of the eyes of the cat in their storyline, and im pretty sure that cat represents the devil or something, but im not sure because I stopped watching kpop after I saw the truth and i never really looked into their storyline since... but the train completely passes them.View attachment 52964
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Its almost as if their company are mocking these idols too. Its like the fans are the ones being completely deceived, while the idols know that they are deceiving the fans, but little do THEY know that their company is not only deceiving the fans, but the idols as well.
Also I saw in a video that some of the members in str@y kids are catholic or Christian, is that true? Cause I saw that felix was christian, but its interesting that you said that he along with some other members were wearing a cross in that mv, so i think that they also might have intentionally made them wear that to mock their religion? Idk but it does make me mad. No one bats an eye when they see these idols mocking Christianity in the music videos.

thank you for explaining. And yes almost all of kpop songs have the same story from the train to going to “better place” idk how people don’t see it. It’s so clear and even they try to make it clear to us to show that they are not afraid of showing it.

 

[Anonymous User]

in a variety show, they also said how different he was off-camera. Of course it might be what we call professionalism but from what they said he seemed to "very" different, and they kept saying, bc they have to (as well as for the other members),"but he's cute he's cute".

I immediately thought of this moment. It's referenced down below for anyone interested

Time mark 15:51

Keep in mind they’re talking in Korean and this is an English Translation. Seungmin picked BC for this card

Seungmin “I don’t mean that he looks nice on-camera and he’s mean off-camera. I personally think that Bang Chan takes good care of us both on and off camera. But when it comes to music, he shows a different attitude. He’s serious”
Han also replied that he is serious and strict

 

[helloyall]

I immediately thought of this moment. It's referenced down below for anyone interested

Time mark 15:51

Keep in mind they’re talking in Korean and this is an English Translation. Seungmin picked BC for this card

Seungmin “I don’t mean that he looks nice on-camera and he’s mean off-camera. I personally think that Bang Chan takes good care of us both on and off camera. But when it comes to music, he shows a different attitude. He’s serious”
Han also replied that he is serious and strict

yes that is the video thx! btw this only proves that fans shouldn't be sureeee that these celebrities' personality is their real self and then become really sad if they find out that they made a mistake (like it always happen).

 

[Anonymous User]

I remembered this VLIVE BC and LK had together and I was shocked when I read this. Btw ch@n’s animal is a wolf and LK is a bunny. BC referred to Rhino as a devil bunny then LK said this

Video link

 

[wow]

this photo is from their 3rach4 ig acc, i want to point out how suggestive js' shirt is, like...





if you know, you know
3rach4 also gave me mysogynistic vibes, their old songs just sexualizing women

 

[wow]

Seung!m said that he speaks informal to all of his hyungs except for bc and that he respects him a lot. And once he referred to him that he is the most one amongst them that shows a different personality but then said he meant it in a good way. It’s suspicious how bc acts kind and when st4y told him he is the best leader he said nah RM is the best.

i think its not just sm but other members as well



mh is pretty chill about other members not using formalities, thats why they dont use it to him but i guess the opposite for bc.

 

[wow]

Also, i think the hj (and other idols) bullying scandal is just a big distraction from that idol who is now in court because people accused him s3xually abusing girls, like literally, all of the accusations came out of nowhere after the guy got exposed for s3xual harassment, thats why i never rlly care about the bullying scandal cause i know its just one big distraction for the masses, like we actually give a f about what they did 6 years ago or something :/ legit, i dont know how a group that just debuted has like 4 or more scandals (wj left, bc's "black" hair, h4n's racism, hj's bullying) like they just debuted on 2018 and theyre almost at bt5 level famous (who has been in the industry for a long time) and i believe its not just through doing shady things but through media manipulation and how they purposely created a drama or scandal so they could get more attention, and h4n's drama also appeared out of nowhere when he released his new single alien.

 

[helloyall]

Also, i think the hj (and other idols) bullying scandal is just a big distraction from that idol who is now in court because people accused him s3xually abusing girls, like literally, all of the accusations came out of nowhere after the guy got exposed for s3xual harassment, thats why i never rlly care about the bullying scandal cause i know its just one big distraction for the masses, like we actually give a f about what they did 6 years ago or something :/ legit, i dont know how a group that just debuted has like 4 or more scandals (wj left, bc's "black" hair, h4n's racism, hj's bullying) like they just debuted on 2018 and theyre almost at bt5 level famous (who has been in the industry for a long time) and i believe its not just through doing shady things but through media manipulation and how they purposely created a drama or scandal so they could get more attention, and h4n's drama also appeared out of nowhere when he released his new single alien.

That one who is accused of se**ally abusing girls isn't he the one who is cleared of all allegations now? I don't undertsant why "protect" some and throw others under the bus tho

 

[wow]

That one who is accused of se**ally abusing girls isn't he the one who is cleared of all allegations now? I don't undertsant why "protect" some and throw others under the bus tho

cause theyre puppets, they only use them.

btw, i was looking for what miroh means, apparently, "miro" is korean word for "maze" and the "h" at the end means heaven or hell.

"An amazing song by Stray Kids. The letter 'h' at the end of miroh gives the meaning that as someone enters a maze they can either stay in the maze forever, indicating that the maze is their hell, or they can escape towards heaven."
-urbandictionary

and the whole song also uses the same concept as hellevator and how they will only go up towards success and all that stuff, whats new?

 

[Sun443]

I remembered this VLIVE BC and LK had together and I was shocked when I read this. Btw ch@n’s animal is a wolf and LK is a bunny. BC referred to Rhino as a devil bunny then LK said this

Video link

Lk seemed awkward in that live

 

[helloyall]

this photo is from their 3rach4 ig acc, i want to point out how suggestive js' shirt is, like...

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if you know, you know
3rach4 also gave me mysogynistic vibes, their old songs just sexualizing women

I remember reading a comment saying "what's with jyp artists and glazed donuts" idk if the donut's a coincidence but they also have other things in common such as a ring, and a smiley sticker I think.

 

[wow]

I remember reading a comment saying "what's with jyp artists and glazed donuts" idk if the donut's a coincidence but they also have other things in common such as a ring, and a smiley sticker I think.

promoting p3dophilia i think, donut is a p3do symbolism and also a symbol for female reproductive organ.

also, i want to mention how they literally have a song called third eye.

"I close my eyes and I see with my 3rd eye
Show me what you want, 3rd eye
I just wish I could see me me
I close my eyes and I see with my 3rd eye I I"

and guys, what do you think back door means?

 

[helloyall]

promoting p3dophilia i think, donut is a p3do symbolism and also a symbol for female reproductive organ.

also, i want to mention how they literally have a song called third eye.

"I close my eyes and I see with my 3rd eye
Show me what you want, 3rd eye
I just wish I could see me me
I close my eyes and I see with my 3rd eye I I"

and guys, what do you think back door means?

Those who willingly promote these stuff may they suffer in the worst way possible

truueee forgot abt that song title

I watched a video that analysed that back door mv and one commented that it might mean a*al also changbin's part was that his body was suffering from having a bad owner smthg like that. Whether it rlly means that or not couldn't they find another word if they reallyyy meant a room where Authorized personnel only here, which is, according to them, Stays?? Also everytime they explain their songs it sounds like a made-up explanation.

 

[helloyall]

Also Hn,Lk and Sg were wearing leo prints in the back door mv
Wait I won't throw "leo print" and leave it unexplained, brb I'll explain it

 

[Anonymous User]

Those who willingly promote these stuff may they suffer in the worst way possible

truueee forgot abt that song title

I watched a video that analysed that back door mv and one commented that it might mean a*al also changbin's part was that his body was suffering from having a bad owner smthg like that. Whether it rlly means that or not couldn't they find another word if they reallyyy meant a room where Authorized personnel only here, which is, according to them, Stays?? Also everytime they explain their songs it sounds like a made-up explanation.

Can i know what video it is?

Authorized personnel is probably the elites definitely not stays

 

[Anonymous User]

HJ & FL Arena photoshoot

Lots of diamonds and pearls, are you guys thinking what I'm thinking?

Aren’t they so good at hiding imagery? (sarcasm btw loll) checkerboard, one eye

 

[helloyall]

Can i know what video it is?

Authorized personnel is probably the elites definitely not stays

here you go

 

[Anonymous User]

here you go

thank you very muchh