The American “Coup d’etat”

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I’m concerned that people WANT that to happen. Two different things.

also: I found it.

Let them want it. The driving base of "Trumpism" or populism is national sovereignty. The wishes of these guys you're worrying about lack credibility.
 
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your q comrades seem to disagree. Seeeing as they are banking on him calling for GLOBAL martial law by monday
Is that message you shared from Q? And stop including me in the Q movement. I don't label you either. I just take Q seriously and there are many converging ideas. That's it.
 

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Let them want it. The driving base of "Trumpism" or populism is national sovereignty. The wishes of these guys you're worrying about lack credibility.
These guys are the most violent and unstable version of trump supporter out there. And they are multiplying. It’s enough to be worried about what the mentally unstable will do when their dreams and beliefs do not materialize.
 

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Is that message you shared from Q? And stop including me in the Q movement. I don't label you either. I just take Q seriously and there are many converging ideas. That's it.
That message was from a q and liked and shared by multiple qs and I’ve seen it numerous times over the months from qs, radical right, on Parler, on this board. Q seems to be conspicuously silent. Theories take on their own life after a while.
 
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These guys are the most violent and unstable version of trump supporter out there. And they are multiplying. It’s enough to be worried about what the mentally unstable will do when their dreams and beliefs do not materialize.
I still haven't seen a percent of "Q-violence" compared to the violence perpetrated by BLM and Antifa.
 
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That message was from a q and liked and shared by multiple qs and I’ve seen it numerous times over the months from qs, radical right, on Parler, on this board. Q seems to be conspicuously silent. Theories take on their own life after a while.
You have Q and then everyone who subscribes to the QAnon movement. It's similar to the Anonymous movement trending in the 2000s. Many are self-proclaimed insiders while they're just self-proclaimed digital soldiers.
 
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So another faction of the NWO takes over. Some say it's Satanists Vs Luciferians. Luciferians being the " lesser evil", and Templars ruling that faction. The Templars would introduce the new financial system with cryptocurrency and gold, but would be just another version of the mark of the Beast. I imagine people would jump on it if they were told they would be given millions each.
I've been trying to tell people for the past 6 or 7 years that the NWO has 2 major factions who are steering world events at opposing ends.

If you look back historically you can see this all play out, whether we are looking at the US civil war, the American independence, WW1 or WW2. Both sides are controlled by different elite factions, and you have at the very top crossover where certain agents are going back and forth and helping out both sides.

The Far Right in America supported the Nazis, they were centered around the America First Committee run by guys like Charles Lindberg, while the government of FDR opposed the Nazis and tried to reach a kind of detante with the USSR.

Some have spoken about the difference between Continental Freemasonry (more liberal) and Anglo America Freemasonry (more conservative) and I think there is something to this.

I spent much time telling people on the David Icke forum that their beloved "Brexit" was simply a controlled opposition by the same elites who were behind Donald Trump, and ultimately I told them David Icke himself was a fraud by pushing "Brexit" as some great victory against the elites. It was the exact same script as the Trump supporters, how these leaders were fighting the "establishment" All a bunch of nonsense. They didn't want to hear it and they kicked me and others off so they could sit in an echo chamber.

I lurk there sometimes, and it has become a cesspool of QAnon cult members.

Their is deception from every angle, and people who put all of their eggs in the Trump/Qanon basket are completely out to lunch, and as you see they gleefully support EVERYTHING they claimed to be against so long as Trump is the one doing it. Were Biden or Obama to do the same thing, it would suddenly become evil in their eyes. They are simply brainwashed "culture warriors" and Trump is their cult daddy.
 
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Most. There are people on this site who should certainly know though. And yet... they seem to have forgot. The shit I’m seeing on social media just keeps getting weirder and more scary by the minute.
The elite controlled "alt media" was never meant to get people to oppose the NWO, it was meant to get them to oppose "liberals/the left" It was always one big "culture war" psy op, and nothing more.
 

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The elite controlled "alt media" was never meant to get people to oppose the NWO, it was meant to get them to oppose "liberals/the left" It was always one big "culture war" psy op, and nothing more.
It is a rough position to be in... not fitting anywhere. Happy I don’t but still not easy. Conservatives and the alt oppose liberals, cheer for fascism and the only point his owning those they don’t like. Liberals and the msm oppose the opposite, cheer for fascism, and the only point is owning those they don’t like. People need to get their shit together and give these MASTER FANTASIES a good kick in the ass.
 

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Also isn’t anyone going to take me up on the proud boys (an intelligence op) stating they’ve had a member in the White House for FOUR YEARS?
 
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They’re definitely a cult. Scary thing is the call for civil war or military take over.

I find it amusing but disturbing how they were against martial law in 2015. But now they are full support.

I tried going back to dig up some old post, but my ip keeps getting banned
When I used to listen to Alex Jones I remember he exposed the Rex84 plans, which were to put dissidents in internment camps, nearly a decade later Alex Jones was calling for Rex84 to be implemented in order to "save the country" He wanted Trump's political enemies to be locked up. His buddy the Health Ranger called for all liberals to be interned. These people are frauds, and they are dangerous.
 
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I've been trying to tell people for the past 6 or 7 years that the NWO has 2 major factions who are steering world events at opposing ends.

If you look back historically you can see this all play out, whether we are looking at the US civil war, the American independence, WW1 or WW2. Both sides are controlled by different elite factions, and you have at the very top crossover where certain agents are going back and forth and helping out both sides.

The Far Right in America supported the Nazis, they were centered around the America First Committee run by guys like Charles Lindberg, while the government of FDR opposed the Nazis and tried to reach a kind of detante with the USSR.

Some have spoken about the difference between Continental Freemasonry (more liberal) and Anglo America Freemasonry (more conservative) and I think there is something to this.

I spent much time telling people on the David Icke forum that their beloved "Brexit" was simply a controlled opposition by the same elites who were behind Donald Trump, and ultimately I told them David Icke himself was a fraud by pushing "Brexit" as some great victory against the elites. It was the exact same script as the Trump supporters, how these leaders were fighting the "establishment" All a bunch of nonsense. They didn't want to hear it and they kicked me and others off so they could sit in an echo chamber.

I lurk there sometimes, and it has become a cesspool of QAnon cult members.

Their is deception from every angle, and people who put all of their eggs in the Trump/Qanon basket are completely out to lunch, and as you see they gleefully support EVERYTHING they claimed to be against so long as Trump is the one doing it. Were Biden or Obama to do the same thing, it would suddenly become evil in their eyes. They are simply brainwashed "culture warriors" and Trump is their cult daddy.
So basically the entire political ideology I have subscribed to many years prior to Brexit and Trump was all a psy-op.

Tell me then, which political ideas are not part of a NWO dialectic?
 
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Also isn’t anyone going to take me up on the proud boys (an intelligence op) stating they’ve had a member in the White House for FOUR YEARS?
This you find important, yet you've avoided dozens of fraud irregularities like the plague. Your hierarchy of things to be concerned about also lacks credibility.
 
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So basically the entire political ideology I have subscribed to many years prior to Brexit and Trump was all a psy-op.

Tell me then, which political ideas are not part of a NWO dialectic?
Virtually everything is under control of either side of the dialectic, even things which we can consider positive.

what is your political ideology ?
 

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This you find important, yet you've avoided dozens of fraud irregularities like the plague. Your hierarchy of things to be concerned about also lacks credibility.
I’ve looked at everything you presented artful. The “evidence” does not withstand scrutiny. Further you’ve blatantly ignored every counter point I’ve made - the months of brainwashing about mail in votes, the postal service being defunded, mail sorting equipment being removed, the postal service refusing a federal order to sweep for ballots, the Republican Party admitting to putting up dummy drop boxes and refusing to take them down, the federal charges pending against republican operatives for robo calls designed to scare people off voting.. you’ve literally just flat out ignored it all. Atleast I bothered to look at your evidence. That’s more then you’ve done.

And yes I find the safety and well-being of American citizens to be more important then political theater or which puppet was selected this year.
 
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And I want to say

We can all thank the Trumpers and Qanon cult for perhaps destroying true conspiracy research, by drowning us out with their garbage and forever discrediting any conspiracy which may have merit because it will forever be associated with their lunacy. This is What happens when conspiracy theories get weaponized to push disinformation that makes people with alternative views all look like psychos.

Thanks for forever discrediting true alternative research, because we will be placed under your insane umbrella.

This is of course by design. Another Trumpian victory for the elites.
 
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Virtually everything is under control of either side of the dialectic, even things which we can consider positive.
Be specific. Virtually everything is not everything, but both are very defeatist.

what is your political ideology ?
That in order to reverse global centralization of political, cultural and economic control, you want to decentralize. You start doing that by supporting nationalism, but nationalism in itself shouldn't be the end goal.

You're saying nationalism and globalism are two antitheses of a dialectic, but the NWO pushed by bankers and global institutions like the IMF has always been driven by the idea of globalism, -ism, the idea of one world government, one religion (for the plebs), one currency and one form of global citizen. Those who support to retain the political, cultural and economic sovereignty of their nation are in direct opposition to that. The only synthesis to this dialectic is something like we're seeing in the European Union which is bound to collapse, which is why globalists like Verhofstadt and Cohn-Bendit are obsessed with more federalisation of Europe. They're European nationalists, sort of speak, who hate the guts of people like Farage and Orban.

That a multipolar world with independent nations is the vision of another faction of elites isn't necessarily an untrue statement, but to assume they're in cahoots with one another creates a very uncoherent picture, because a full globalist order would establish much sooner, and would've established already, if it weren't for this resistance in the institutions. It's completely counterproductive.
 
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Be specific. Virtually everything is not everything, but both are very defeatist.
I frankly can't think of any aspect of human life that is not in some way controlled under the tenticles of either side of the dialectic. If you can think of one, please I'm all ears. Lets look at religion, specifically Christianity, which there seems to be a heavy influence of on this forum. Organized religion is completely under the control of one faction of the NWO. Actually there are aspects of Christianity controlled by either faction. The Liberation Theology part of the Catholic church was controlled by the more "progressive" factions of freemasonry, while the right wing faction controlled Catholic orders like the Knights of Malta, Opus Dei etc. Even different popes were on either side of the dialectic. The new pope who is more progressive is hated by the right wing. Past popes have been tied to the fascist lodges of Europe like the P2 Masonic lodge, which also tied in the Mafia and global banking. So even within the Catholic religion you have either faction with controlling interests. What people call Christianity in the US is mostly controlled by the conservative faction and has been manipulated to serve fascist interests. Same history with Hitler, Mussolini etc.

I think we would all consider "true Christianity" to be a good thing, problem is what is "true Christianity" when the elites are pushing so many counterfit versions.

That in order to reverse global centralization of political, cultural and economic control, you want to decentralize. You start doing that by supporting nationalism, but nationalism in itself shouldn't be the end goal.
Again nationalism just becomes a meme or a talking point with little meaning, just like "christianity" I described above, it essentially becomes a cult and not anything tangiable.

Donald Trump is not a nationalist. A nationalist does not intentionally try to divide his country so that it can burn to the ground.

Brexit is not nationalist. Replacing an authoritarian international body, with an authoritarian local government is not nationalist.

Leaders who push Culture wars are not nationalist either, they are just the vehicle for which to be manipulated by the elites for divide and conquer.

The problem is what you and others call "nationalism" is not in effect nationalism.

Bernie Sanders would be much closer to real "nationalism" than Trump or Brexit. Brexit which wants to sell of the UK's health care system to US companies. LOL
You're saying nationalism and globalism are two antitheses of a dialectic, but the NWO pushed by bankers and global institutions like the IMF has always been driven by the idea of globalism, -ism, the idea of one world government, one religion (for the plebs), one currency and one form of global citizen
.

There is more than one way to fry a fish. Hitler wanted a NWO. He wanted global institutions, just not the same global institutions he was fighting against. Same thing with Trump and his backers. They will replace the UN, WHO with their own set of rulers and authorities. They are just using rhetoric to create a mass following.

The paradigm that is put forward today about Nationalist vs Globalist is a misnomer, but it is the new dialectic that has evolved from the left/right paradigm. It is now Globalist vs Populist/Nationalist, and this new paradigm seeks to solidify malcontents from both the political left and right into this fake Populist camp. If you study Alexander Dugin and his philosophy you will understand they are trying to created National Bolshevism, a synthesis or the far left and the far right to basically join up against the middle (Neoliberalism)

You have 2 criminal factions both hell bent on controlling the world through different means and they use different forms of propaganda to sell their agenda.


Those who support to retain the political, cultural and economic sovereignty of their nation are in direct opposition to that. The only synthesis to this dialectic is something like we're seeing in the European Union which is bound to collapse, which is why globalists like Verhofstadt and Cohn-Bendit are obsessed with more federalisation of Europe. They're European nationalists, sort of speak, who hate the guts of people like Farage and Orban.
Farage and Orban are not nationalists. They are both Zionist shills who bend over to Israel for one.

They are simply part of a criminal faction that does not agree with the other faction, and want to create their own order as opposed to the more established one.

That a multipolar world with independent nations is the vision of another faction of elites isn't necessarily an untrue statement, but to assume they're in cahoots with one another creates a very uncoherent picture, because a full globalist order would establish much sooner, and would've established already, if it weren't for this resistance in the institutions. It's completely counterproductive.
A nation is not independent when it has multinational corporations sucking them dry. A nation is not independent when it has foreign intelligence services manipulating outcomes of elections and the policy that selected puppets carry out. A nation is not independent when it owes billions of dollars to foreign banks, and gives up its resources and social programs to pay off those banks. This is the vast majority of countries in the world. Trump and his "nationalists" have no intention of changing any of this, they simply want their nations to wield more international power than they believe they currently have, that's it. On top of that they dont even want to share the spoils of international robbery with their citizens. This doesn't make them "nationalists" it makes them NEO IMPERIALISTS.
 
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