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I think I may be over-analyzing, but there is a weird connection with BTS and the #4.


- Their first award show was in 2013 at the 4th Melon Music Award, where BTS won the best new artist award.

- In May 2016, BTS goes on their 10 city, 14 show tour following the release of their first Korean compilation album The Most Beautiful Moment in Life: Young Forever, bringing together a total of 144k fans.

- Taehyung’s grandma passes away on Sept 3rd, 2016. Then 4 days later, on Sept 7th, 2016, BTS released their second Japanese studio album 'Youth'. And it sold over 44k copies on its first day of release and peaked at number one in Japan.

- The second single off of the 'Youth' album, "Dope", peaked at #44 in Korea on the Gaon Music Chart.

- Taehyung's friend Lee Ui Soo, passed away on Oct 6th, 2017. 44 days later on Nov 19th, 2017, BTS made their debut performance on U.S. television at the AMAs being the first K-pop group to do so.
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^*(proof) I literally can't believe my eyes.))


- As of 2019, BTS is purportedly worth more than $4.65 billion to South Korea's economy each year.


- Also the whole Big Hit $4m BTS investment scam.




do you guys think there is any meaning to all these #4s ?
I found this article about the number 4 and it seems as very important and sacred number
In the third and fourth screenshots is that there are 7 kingdoms and men are in the fourth kingdom - quite interesting

It surprised me a lot. I always thought that the number 4 is just number of materialism and serviceability. Silly me :D
 

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I think I may be over-analyzing, but there is a weird connection with BTS and the #4.


- Their first award show was in 2013 at the 4th Melon Music Award, where BTS won the best new artist award.

- In May 2016, BTS goes on their 10 city, 14 show tour following the release of their first Korean compilation album The Most Beautiful Moment in Life: Young Forever, bringing together a total of 144k fans.

- Taehyung’s grandma passes away on Sept 3rd, 2016. Then 4 days later, on Sept 7th, 2016, BTS released their second Japanese studio album 'Youth'. And it sold over 44k copies on its first day of release and peaked at number one in Japan.

- The second single off of the 'Youth' album, "Dope", peaked at #44 in Korea on the Gaon Music Chart.

- Taehyung's friend Lee Ui Soo, passed away on Oct 6th, 2017. 44 days later on Nov 19th, 2017, BTS made their debut performance on U.S. television at the AMAs being the first K-pop group to do so.
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^*(proof) I literally can't believe my eyes.))


- As of 2019, BTS is purportedly worth more than $4.65 billion to South Korea's economy each year.


- Also the whole Big Hit $4m BTS investment scam.




do you guys think there is any meaning to all these #4s ?
i smell blood sacrifices
 

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Lmbo I'm jealous. There's something called pretty privilege. Notice how some tiktokers only get famous cuz their pretty? Take bella poarch for example
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Another reason why I think she sold out or humanity has just devolved mentally enough to make some girl that just makes faces all day famous.
I actually mentioned this a couple pages back. I thought I was the only one to use the word, though lol. I've always said that pretty privilege takes precedence over every other type of privilege or setback. For instance, "Non-Asians can't be in K-POP", unless they're prettier than average; "Korea would never allow a Black idol", unless they're prettier than average (Fatou); "You have to have x,y,z to be a member of x group/club/organization", unless you're prettier than average. "You can't say things like x,y,z", unless you're prettier than average. LoL. It sounds silly but it's true. There's a restaurant in Florence, Mississippi, USA that only accepts white girls as waitresses. Everyone told me not to apply there for this reason. But I ended up getting the job anyway. Only one other black girl worked there with me and she was "passing". Yeah, this was quite a sad case and not something to brag about (I don't). Just using it as an example.
 
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I actually mentioned this a couple pages back. I thought I was the only one to use the word, though lol. I've always said that pretty privilege takes precedence over every other type of privilege or setback. For instance, "Non-Asians can't be in K-POP", unless they're prettier than average; "Korea would never allow a Black idol", unless they're prettier than average (Fatou); "You have to have x,y,z to be a member of x group/club/organization", unless you're prettier than average. "You can't say things like x,y,z", unless you're prettier than average. LoL. It sounds silly but it's true. There's a restaurant in Florence, Mississippi, USA that only accepts white girls as waitresses. Everyone told me not to apply there for this reason. But I ended up getting the job anyway. Only one other black girl worked there with me and she was "passing". Yeah, this was quite a sad case and not something to brag about (I don't). Just using it as an example.
I mean I understand that its part of human nature to like things more attractive! It just makes us feel safer.
This:
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Or this:
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I'm pretty sure anyone would choose the first one, haha. But what i don't understand is when people get away with serious things just because they are pretty. Like Zoe laverne for example! She kissed a 13 year-old boy. I bet if she looked like Shrek she would have been cancelled and arrested within a minute!
 

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I mean I understand that its part of human nature to like things more attractive! It just makes us feel safer.
This:
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Or this:
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I'm pretty sure anyone would choose the first one, haha. But what i don't understand is when people get away with serious things just because they are pretty. Like Zoe laverne for example! She kissed a 13 year-old boy. I bet if she looked like Shrek she would have been cancelled and arrested within a minute!
Omg I can not stop laughing at the cupcakes lmfao
Seriously! Remember that teacher, Debra Lafave, who who actually had sex multiple times with her 14-year-old student. All everyone was talking about was how hot she is and how lucky the kid is. She even avoided jail time because her lawyer argued she was "too pretty for prison". Like, wtf, if it were an old man he'd be given life
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Omg I can not stop laughing at the cupcakes lmfao
Seriously! Remember that teacher, Debra Lafave, who who actually had sex multiple times with her 14-year-old student. All everyone was talking about was how hot she is and how lucky the kid is. She even avoided jail time because her lawyer argued she was "too pretty for prison". Like, wtf, if it were an old man he'd be given life
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There's no doubt she's pretty. But she's a stupid pedo so she deserves jail time. This is just disgusting...the kid is even younger than me.
 

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Lmbo I'm jealous. There's something called pretty privilege. Notice how some tiktokers only get famous cuz their pretty? Take bella poarch for example
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Another reason why I think she sold out or humanity has just devolved mentally enough to make some girl that just makes faces all day famous.
i WISH i got rich by just bopping my head bro
 
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BTS Jimin - MK Ultra Slave

Ok guys, today I want to talk about Jimin. I haven’t analysed him in a while because tbh I had a love hate relationship with him. He was my bias wrecker but ever since I found out about the illuminati he gave my weird vibes. But recently I can see that he’s probably the most affected by the control and the weakest of all members. It’s so sad to see him like this and to see that he’s probably one of the biggest mk favourites in Kpop

MV symbolism

Serendipity

In this mv he is portrayed like a child, despite being a full adult. A lot of elite use this to not only promote their p***philia but to show that their slave is representing an alter (in this case a child alter). In this mv he has blonde hair which means reprogramming. The innocent child like persona (remember this links to Carl Jung and persona album) is so weird to me.

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Yellow: Occultic colour referring to wisdom.

There seems to be a lot of one eye symbolism.
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There are a lot of whites used in his mvs. Almost like a hospital look. White rooms in both lie and serendipity. Makes me think he’s a regular patient


Lie

Again, blonde hair. In a hospital room.
Camera in front of him - showing that he’s being watched at all times by his handlers.Before the camera films he has a blank face. Then when the camera rolls, he begins to smile (persona, acting his role). Whilst he’s smiling for the role, there are flashbacks. In his dance he is holding on to his neck, he is trying to get out, he’s trapped. The part where he covers his mouth, could be vow of silence. Drowning bath tub - occult ritual. Again white colours.


Personality/behaviour
Jimin suffers a lot from mood dualities. One minute he’s quiet, the next hyper. He has innocent concepts and then very sensual concepts. I think his beta sex kitten alter and his child alter are very prevalent. That is why he’s constantly being seductive to basically everyone, why he’s so touchy. His child alter could bring out the neediness, the Clinginess and the self esteem issues he has. That low self esteem psychologically is a product of many factors including

  • Childhood neglect/punishment/abuse (he could have been in the industry for a long time - when he was a child)
  • Not receiving enough love or warmth (living without parents)
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Leopard print - beta kitten, mirror - mkultra symbolism




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DCA9D767-427E-4E64-82D8-A0C3DF4D119F.jpegConstant over sexualisation/Exploiting


In filter he is literally asking you to pick a version of him. To pick his persona. I think it’s hard to understand how controlled these boys are. And I think Jimin is one of bangs favourites, hes weak but he brings a lot of cash as he’s popular and he’s extremely submissive. This just means he’s exploited even more as he’s a favourite. It’s truly so sad to see a grown man acting like him.
 
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BTS Jimin - MK Ultra Slave

Ok guys, today I want to talk about Jimin. I haven’t analysed him in a while because tbh I had a love hate relationship with him. He was my bias wrecker but ever since I found out about the illuminati he gave my weird vibes. But recently I can see that he’s probably the most affected by the control and the weakest of all members. It’s so sad to see him like this and to see that he’s probably one of the biggest mk favourites in Kpop

MV symbolism

Serendipity

In this mv he is portrayed like a child, despite being a full adult. A lot of elite use this to not only promote their p***philia but to show that their slave is representing an alter (in this case a child alter). In this mv he has blonde hair which means reprogramming. The innocent child like persona (remember this links to Carl Jung and persona album) is so weird to me.

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Yellow: Occultic colour referring to wisdom.

There seems to be a lot of one eye symbolism.
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There are a lot of whites used in his mvs. Almost like a hospital look. White rooms in both lie and serendipity. Makes me think he’s a regular patient


Lie

Again, blonde hair. In a hospital room.
Camera in front of him - showing that he’s being watched at all times by his handlers.Before the camera films he has a blank face. Then when the camera rolls, he begins to smile (persona, acting his role). Whilst he’s smiling for the role, there are flashbacks. In his dance he is holding on to his neck, he is trying to get out, he’s trapped. The part where he covers his mouth, could be vow of silence. Drowning bath tub - occult ritual. Again white colours.


Personality/behaviour
Jimin suffers a lot from mood dualities. One minute he’s quiet, the next hyper. He has innocent concepts and then very sensual concepts. I think his beta sex kitten alter and his child alter are very prevalent. That is why he’s constantly being seductive to basically everyone, why he’s so touchy. His child alter could bring out the neediness, the Clinginess and the self esteem issues he has. That low self esteem psychologically is a product of many factors including

  • Childhood neglect/punishment/abuse (he could have been in the industry for a long time - when he was a child)
  • Not receiving enough love or warmth (living without parents)
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Leopard print - beta kitten, mirror - mkultra symbolism




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View attachment 45928Constant over sexualisation/Exploiting


In filter he is literally asking you to pick a version of him. To pick his persona. I think it’s hard to understand how controlled these boys are. And I think Jimin is one of bangs favourites, hes weak but he brings a lot of cash as he’s popular and he’s extremely submissive. This just means he’s exploited even more as he’s a favourite. It’s truly so sad to see a grown man acting like him.
I hope big head CEO bang pd hasn't done anything with the members. I think taehyung and jimin are the weakest out of all of them and are sexualised the most and used the most.
 

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More to Jimin's MK Ultra analysis

Hello everyone :) I'm jumping into the conversation because I thought I could share a few things to add to the very interesting post by @ShiningCarat14 , in case anyone is interested.

Here we go.

1- In Serendipity.

This is the part in the lyrics that I find quite interesting :

I'm your calico cat, here to see you
Love me now,
Touch me now.
Just let me love you.

So first, of aall things Jimin could have compared himself to, it just happens to be a cat. The very animal that represents Beta kitten programming. And second : out of aall types of colors/patterns/coats of cats that exist, he happens to pick just the one that can look extremely similar to leopard print. Which, from what I have seen so far, is the most common animal print they use to represent, again, beta kitten programming.

And as if that wasn't enough, the verse is followed by "love me now, touch me now..."

And anyway, singing a song like Serendipity while acting the way he does in the MV, definitely does not look right. I was glad to read what you said, @ShiningCarat14, because i thought it was just me.

Sometimes I wonder, do fans really never question things like that ?

2- In Fake love

In the place where Jimin is seen wearing leopard print and looking like a prisonner, we see the exact same blue picture of a forest from the hospital room in Lie, painted on the wall in front of him. This shows the two situations are connected, further proving that this is about MK Ultra. Another place we see that forest picture is in J-Hope's Mama, which was quite Mk Ultra too.

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3- In Lie

What we see at 0:40 represents the Rorschach Ink blot test. It's a test used by psychologists to measure schizophrenia and multiple personality disorders (you can look it up). I have seen it in an other MV with a lot of Mk Ultra symbolism before.

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When he bites into the apple at 1:54 : it seems this represents split personality. Which again fits the context.

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And then there's the lyrics :

Caught in a lie
Find the me that was innocent
I can’t free myself from this lie
Give me back my smile/laughter
Take me out of his hell
I can’t free myself from this pain
Save the me who’s being punished
Get away from me, get away from me
It keeps happening even though I run away
Whatever the means, save me, save me

My theory for the lie he is talking about : it might be the deceit of the people that recruited him, like when they offered him to work with them they told him he would get this and that and lured him in with all the amazing sides of the job, and it's when he got in that he found what was really awaiting him, but it was too late to escape. And he still can't escape since he's a prisoner now. So this whole situation would be what he calls the lie he is trapped in.

"Caught in a lie",
"I can't free myself from this lie"
"I can't free myself from this pain"

And also
"Im still the same as i was before,
The me from before is still here, but
The lie that’s gotten too big
Is trying to swallow me up".

4- In BST Japanese version.

I think this is worth analysing. In the MV, they put a very similar Jimin to the Jimin from Lie, wearing similar clothes, with light hair and a red apple in his hand again, sitting in a room; And then there is another Jimin, which is probably an alter, looking quite evil and doing different things throughout the MV, while the Jimin from the hospital who is probably the real jimin just sits there the whole time, with an empty look. There is also Suga wearing animal print standing behind Jimin in scenes. Somewhere near the end of the mv, the alter Jimin walks towards the room where real Jimin is. And it's like the real Jimin somehow suddenly feels his presence/him coming (even though he hasn't seen him yet) and gets... scared ? And just when he is about to open the door and they're about to meet, Suga covers the real Jimin's eyes just in time. (Jimin here involuntarily drops his apple, proving he is probably scared of that other Jimin). The alter instantly gets thrown into some other dimension. It is as if this real Jimin must not see the alter. Which further proves the idea that that was an alter.

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There is also other MK Ultra symbolism in the MV. Once again confirming this is about Mk ultra.

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5- In Map Of The Soul ON:E teaser :

At 0:09, Jimin is shown staring at himself in broken pieces of glass, the classic MK ultra symbolism to represent split personality.

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Which is then followed, by Taehyung doing the same; And then right after, Jungkook as if to confirm it :

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As if to confirm this is what the broken mirror pieces was about. (When no one asked really. Lol)

6- In the Wings Tour trailer, 2016

Jimin, still with his white shirt and his red apple, is lying on the floor in the middle of the forest blindfolded (which is already very weird), and next he levitates into what appears to be the Arch of hysteria. It's a position that represents pain and mental trauma (you can google it). It has also been associated with demon possession. It is seen in Billie Eilish's Bury a friend, which is one of the most MK Ultra music videos I know.

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We also see J-hope, looking the same as in the Mama Mk Ultra video, in this position too. As well as Namjoon, with pieces of broken mirror beneath him :

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And then there is this dark liquid coming out of Jimin's eye.

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I don't know exactly what this represents, as I have heard different interpretations, but I have seen it in quite a lot of MK Ultra MVs/situations before.

One of them being, again, Bury a Friend. (There's an article about it here if you didn't know about it).

And this Wings Trailer had other MK Ultra things by the way. Which just confirms this is what this is about.

I would also like to mention this shot, where Jimin does the hand covering his mouth symbol, with that dark liquid again pouring on the wall behind him.

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7- In Idol

In the MV, Jimin is seen with butterflies on his hat. Which is a detail I would have probably ignored, if this wasn't Idol : it's one of BTS's top most viewed MVs, and it has quite a lot of things you could interpret as MK ultra symbolism in it. Not to mention the lyrics :

"Inside of me,
There are tens and hundreds me's.
I welcome another me today.
But it's all me anyways.
Instead of worrying (
notice how he literally admits this isn't normal and he should be worrying), I just run"

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8- Filter.

Lastly we have Filter. (Or should I say, "Alter".)

Firstly : one thing I would really like to point out is that unlike what I have seen in every translation of the lyrics so far, what Jimin actually says is "You can pick and use me". The verb he uses is 쓰다, and here it literally means to use.

In this song I really think he is talking to some kind of master, telling him how he can switch into any alter for him.

For you, every day I'll be new
It's not fun to stay the same all the time.

What he says in this part (below) at the end of the song is really interesting to me. This is just the way I see it though, I might be wrong.

Look at me who has suddenly turned into a child
The more you look, the cuter I am, driving [probably still you] crazy
Overcoming different tastes and standards
You'll be wanting only me
Yeah, because you are the one who made me

And, in this last verse, what he says is 날 만든 사람 보로 너 - so it's more like, it is you specifically, that made me. He also uses 너, which is the second person singular pronoun. So you can't say he is talking to the fans for example or something like that. It is clearly one specific person he is talking to. And that's the person he's singing the song to.

Made me, by the way, he says.
Which is why I think this is probably sone kind of handler or master he is talking to.

So here, after offering to transform into whatever he wants for this master, from a Genie to a cuddler or whatever that was... now he transforms into a child ! And he says, the more this master looks at him, the cuter he gets, to the point of going crazy ! The thing here is, one could argue it isn't necessarily that the person finds this child Jimin cute in a sexual way, but you can't really say that, because he goes on to say : "Overcoming different tastes and standards", and,
"You'll be wanting only me". "Overcoming different tastes and standards" sounds like he is confirming that this is indeed pedophilic.

Also, I watched the Filter performance from the ONE concert, and from what I remember it had some pretty sexual moves.

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That's it, that's all I had to share.
 
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@The Red Apple

This is amazing. Thank you so much for sharing.

I saw the calico cat symbolism and was going to add about it but my post was getting too long lol and I totally forgot. Thank you for sharing.

About Suga covering Jimin’s eyes, and the use of blindfolds Jimin wears, this is a ritual link. A lot of Freemason initiates wear these blindfolds when they are going to or are partaking one rituals

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perhaps Suga is in charge of him, that is why he’s covering the eyes. I remember in BST also, Suga was the one who was meant to cover Jin’s eyes before he kisses the statue but he was too short so V had to instead.


about that black liquid, it has been analysed before but I can’t seem to remember anything about it lol. It is everywhere though, especially surrounding BTS.


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Thank you for this analysis though !!
 
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Yes I would like to read that where can i find it?
I can’t find my original post anywhere lol, but JD did a video on it. She made similar points to me (lol her video has been deleted!)


ok so dynamite is heavily p***philia themed.

We see Jk drinking milk at the start which had sexual connotations to it, especially when he smirks... it is uncomfortable. But milk is seen as a sexual symbol to the elite.

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the colours of their shirts and bombs match the pedo flag. There was also an explosion in Lebanon like @somewhat_yuna said so because the timing was so similar, the song is called Dynamite and the imagery, people think there was so involvement from Bighit


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Jhope With an “obey” shirt in a doughnut shop (these sweet desserts are p***phile codes)

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Jk about to eat and then freezes (mk ultra glitch)


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so much symbolism in the pic above with V.

- The colours of the word Dynamite are the same colours of the flag.
- ice cream = male prostitute. Not surprising, V is passed around a lot. The sign saying “one way” and the aeroplane above = overseas prostitute. The sign is facing the west from Korea. So America is a western country’s. The same plane passes Jk later in the mv.

I’ll analyse the lyrics in another post
 
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I can’t find my original post anywhere lol, but JD did a video on it. She made similar points to me (lol her video has been deleted!)


ok so dynamite is heavily p***philia themed.

We see Jk drinking milk at the start which had sexual connotations to it, especially when he smirks... it is uncomfortable. But milk is seen as a sexual symbol to the elite.

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the colours of their shirts and bombs match the pedo flag. There was also an explosion in Lebanon like @somewhat_yuna said so because the timing was so similar, the song is called Dynamite and the imagery, people think there was so involvement from Bighit


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Jhope With an “obey” shirt in a doughnut shop (these sweet desserts are p***phile codes)

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Jk about to eat and then freezes (mk ultra glitch)


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so much symbolism in the pic above with V.

- The colours of the word Dynamite are the same colours of the flag.
- ice cream = male prostitute. Not surprising, V is passed around a lot. The sign saying “one way” and the aeroplane above = overseas prostitute. The sign is facing the west from Korea. So America is a western country’s. The same plane passes Jk later in the mv.

I’ll analyse the lyrics in another post
@Funnygirl1, I’m so sorry you liked this before I had time to edit it lol. I’ll do a better part 2 with the lyrics. Like you said, they are weird and don’t fit. The song makes no sense because it isn’t about anything specifically other than Bighit affiliation with pedo rings
 
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