Who do Muslims really worship?

[Alanantic]

"Who is the dreamer?"

Well, from personal experience, YOU are. Here, I wrote it down:

When I was 4 years old, I was walking down the street and I found myself, saying out loud, "I'm really here! I'm really HERE!!" Why I thought that was so profound, I don't know. But, suddenly I experienced Life as a Dream, a Lucid Dream, and I was the Dreamer. It was like I went from being an actor on a stage lost in the part, to being in the audience. I thought about telling my parents but I knew it would be a waste of time. They thought Life was REAL." -- My first experience of Truth
About 25 years later, I had the same experience. A friend of mine dropped by with some coke and good bud. We smoked it, then just sat outside in the evening just meditating in silence. I was unbelievably relaxed. I felt myself float out of my body and I Awoke in the Dream of Life again. Just like having a lucid dream where you wake up...half way, and know you can make anything happen in the Dream. I was a musician at that time and hoped to play Oakland Coliseum one day. I knew I could make that happen! But, I was afraid of what I might become to do that...timidly, I came down and back into my body.

"Just as when you are half awake and can see a dream, and know you are dreaming, and yet are apart from it, that is how God feels this universe. On one side he is awake, and on another side he is dreaming this universe. And that is how you should look upon this world. Then you will know why he created it, and will not ascribe these dream conditions to your soul. If you pass through a nightmare, you know that is no more than a bad dream. If you can live in the world in that consciousness, you will not suffer.
You won't mind then, because you will know you are dreaming. Do not pay undue attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal self (consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda

 

[Kais_1]

Well, from personal experience, YOU are. Here, I wrote it down:

When I was 4 years old, I was walking down the street and I found myself, saying out loud, "I'm really here! I'm really HERE!!" Why I thought that was so profound, I don't know. But, suddenly I experienced Life as a Dream, a Lucid Dream, and I was the Dreamer. It was like I went from being an actor on a stage lost in the part, to being in the audience. I thought about telling my parents but I knew it would be a waste of time. They thought Life was REAL." -- My first experience of Truth
About 25 years later, I had the same experience. A friend of mine dropped by with some coke and good bud. We smoked it, then just sat outside in the evening just meditating in silence. I was unbelievably relaxed. I felt myself float out of my body and I Awoke in the Dream of Life again. Just like having a lucid dream where you wake up...half way, and know you can make anything happen in the Dream. I was a musician at that time and hoped to play Oakland Coliseum one day. I knew I could make that happen! But, I was afraid of what I might become to do that...timidly, I came down and back into my body.

"Just as when you are half awake and can see a dream, and know you are dreaming, and yet are apart from it, that is how God feels this universe. On one side he is awake, and on another side he is dreaming this universe. And that is how you should look upon this world. Then you will know why he created it, and will not ascribe these dream conditions to your soul. If you pass through a nightmare, you know that is no more than a bad dream. If you can live in the world in that consciousness, you will not suffer.
You won't mind then, because you will know you are dreaming. Do not pay undue attention to the passing scenes of life. You are the immortal self (consciousness) living only temporarily in a dream that is sometimes (imagined) to be a nightmare. That is the higher philosophy (and truth) of the mystics." -- Yogananda

I also have awoken in the same dream ....a few times now

 

[Kais_1]

my dreams are like full length feature films....i close my eyes at night time, as soon as i drift off...the movie starts, sometime with me at the centre, sometime not...i see the movie...then bang i slam into my body...

 

[Alanantic]

my dreams are like full length feature films....i close my eyes at night time, as soon as i drift off...the movie starts, sometime with me at the centre, sometime not...i see the movie...then bang i slam into my body...

Have you figured out what you think these dreams mean?

 

[billy t]

i personally think that the mother is not ISIS but SOPHIA.....and the son im not sure of his name but is referred to as the DEVIL himself.....

1) Do you know arabic? 2) Where? Whats your evidence? The Qur'aan from start to end says to worship Allah alone and not to worship anyone else. The Muslim ummah has agreed on this. Anyone who worships anyone other than Allah has left the fold of Islaam yet you claim that we worship Egyptian gods?! SubhaanAllah.

 

[billy t]

i had a kind of breakthrough last night....

i thought i would pray a little to god....being a muslim my god is Allah....so i started to pray surah fatihah.....just after i decoded it...

so i began to pray....i got to the end of the surah then came AMEEN......this word alone stopped me from praying any further.....

i thought to my self why in the heck am i dedicating my prayers to a egyptian god....


i dont think i will be praying much more in the future....but its hard when you have been brainwashed since being a child with all things muslim

Have you considered that the Egyptian pagans had elements of the truth that they had mixed with their paganism. Just because one word was found with the pagans does not prove anything. The arab muskriks believed in Allah. The Qur'aan says that BUT they worshipped others BESIDES Allah. Are we going to say because the mushriks mentioned Allah that this is where the name Allah came from? Your logical reasoning is flawed bro.

 

[billy t]

i know that...

the epic of gilgamesh came before islam

horus and isis and amun came before islam

the above i would say is the original truth.....islam copied and pasted...

Bro, Islaam began with Adam. People always deviated and mixed Islam with falsehood. That's why all religions have certain elements of the truth because they mixed truth and falsehood. Islam came to correct what had been distorted. How do you know that these pagan religions didn't take these ideas from Prophets sent by God before them and then twisted it and mixed it with their paganism? Just as happend with the council of Nicea? Your foundation is weak bro.

 

[billy t]

I wonder...

Have you considered the difference between reading ideas into things and unlocking ideas from?

In my view, you may accuse Muslims of a number of things but worship of an Egyptian pantheon may not be one of them. Why would the hidden code be in such direct opposition to its overt message?

What do you mean why is One eye symbilism in the Qur'aan? Where? The Qur'aan is the ARABIC text that Allah spoke with and it is uncreated. The cover and paper is not the Qur'aan only the letters. Jaahil.

 

[billy t]

no im not american.....im a brit....

the hidden code i have found, works perfectly and give the person a clearer insight as to whats really going on.

"the hidden code" wow...you must be a modern day Albert Einstein.

 

[billy t]

ever thought of why the chess board is black and white?

or why albinos are looked upon?

Your post is black and white. Black letters and white background. Bro, just stop. Your posts are cringeworthy.

 

[billy t]

there are also many similarities between the EYE and the WOMB....according to enterthestars they are mirrors of each other

Bro, stop, please. Your making an idiot of yourself. I could prove anything with mathematics. You joined the sub on December the 22nd, 2017. These numbers are very demonic when you break it down. December is the 12th month of the year. 12 divided by 2 equals 6 which indicates that you must be a supporter of the Anti-Christ. 2017 can also be broken down. Take the following equation for example.
7 + 1 - 2 + 0 = 6! The number of the Anti-Christ!! Dec 22, 2017.

Now lets discuss the number 22. 2 is the number of revelation in occultism which indicates that you are getting satanic revelation from demons. Since you use two 2's then this indicates that your posts are "double satanic" and that you are receiving inspiration from two demons at once.

Also find it ironic that your avatar is the eye of Horus!

Am just showing you how stupid you are. If you want further mocked then keep posting bro.

 

[billy t]

i found this too on wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_many-eyed_creatures_in_mythology_and_fiction
In mythology and religion[edit]

• Amun in Egyptian mythology (in some depictions).[1]
• Argus Panoptes in Greek mythology.
• Azrael in Islam.
• Bes in Egyptian mythology (in some depictions).[1]
• Ophanim in Christianity.
• Lord Shiva in Hinduism.
• Osiris in Egyptian mythology (in some depictions).[1]
• Seraphim in Christianity.
• Indra in Hinduism (following his seduction of Ahalya).

In fiction[edit]

• Angel of Death in Hellboy 2: The Golden Army, though it is based on Azrael.
• Beholder and related monsters from Dungeons & Dragons.
• Blind Io from Discworld.
• Elder Things from the Cthulhu Mythos
• Eye Guy from the Power Rangers series
• Gallaxhar from Monsters vs. Aliens
• Henry J. Waternoose from Monsters, Inc.
• Shoggoth from the Cthulhu Mythos
• Yith from the Cthulhu Mythos
• Pai, a Sanjiyan Unkara from the 3×3 Eyes
• Garnet from the Cartoon Network Animated Series Steven Universe.
• Malachite from the Cartoon Network Animated Series Steven Universe.
• Sardonyx from the Cartoon Network Animated Series Steven Universe.
• Rainbow Quartz from the Cartoon Network Animated Series Steven Universe.
• Baskania from the book Erec Rex
• Bill Cipher from the Disney Animated Series Gravity Falls.
• Tom Lucitor from the Disney Animated Series Star vs. The Forces of Evil.
• Hiei from Yu Yu Hakusho Yu Yu Hakusho.

some interesting names in the above link...AMUN stands out to me, obviously due to the fact that he is worshipped by the muslims and christians alike...ie. when they say AMEN and AMEEN

Bro, do you even understand arabic? Show me one arabic dictionary that understands ameen to mean worship of Amun. Retard.

 

[billy t]

Who do muslims really worship ?

They worship one on the Temple Mount.

That's in Jerusalem where jews used to worship God... so do muslims worship God there as well ?


There is a prophecy about a fallen heavenly being receiving worship on the same mount where God was worshipped.


Isaiah 14 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.


So do muslims worship God or a fallen heavenly being as in some kind of rebel angel maybe even the Devil himself ? Well i know the answer to that but i'm not going to force my knowledge upon anybody.

You claim Muslims worship the devil yet every Verse in the Qur'an begins with "I seek refuge in Allah from the devil". Argument destroyed. NEXT.

 

[billy t]

more on NAJM

As you know it works out to be...SARS


S 19
A 1
R 18
S 19

19 + 19 = 38 = 11 = K

= ARK = WAR or MARS / ARM /RAW

As you can see it works out to be ARK and WAR

lets concentrate on ARK....

as far as i am aware there are 2 ARKS...one with Moses and the other with Noah

so that equates to M and N

M = 13

N = 14

MAN leaves RK or KR

Radha Krishna

R Kelly and many more

= 27 = W in arabic

= 1 in English = A

= WA or MARK

or AMY

111

also ark =21 and war =42

Now lets move onto the word WAR and ARK together...

A =1 R =18 K =11

A =1 R =18 W = 23

you have 8 11

and if you use the code that i told you guys about, both K and W =11

so that 11811 = 282 - i personally think its seen as 822 which is 811

or

23 + 11 = 34 + 82 = 116 or 911 reversed...

There you have it the full formula in the above few words...

all based, of course upon SIRIUS the star.


8 x 2 = 16/19

911

911/19


S 19
A 1
R 18
S 19

you have 3 19's in the above....

Over It Is Nineteen (Quran 74:30)

The number nineteen is a prime number. In other words it is only divisible by itself and one. Numbers such as 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13, 17, 19… are all prime numbers. God has chosen the number 19 as his signature prime number.

Nineteen embraces the first numeral (1) and the last numeral (9), as if to proclaim God’s attribute in the Qur’an (57:3) as the "first and the Last". "He is the First and the Last, and the Outward as well as the Inward: and is established on the throne of His almightiness."

Nineteen looks the same in Semitic and European languages. Both components, 1 and 9, are the only numerals that look the same in these languages.

Nineteen possesses many peculiar mathematical properties. For example, 19 is the sum of the first powers of 9 and 10 (9+10=19) and the difference between the second powers of 9 and 10 (100-81=19).

Nineteen is the gematrical value of the word "ONE" in all the scriptural languages – Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic (please refer to the insert concerning the definition of gematrical value). The number 19, therefore, proclaims the First Commandment in all the scriptures: that there is only ONE God.

Deuteronomy 6:4-5 "Hear O Isreal the Lord our God is one Lord and thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."

Mark 12:29 "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:"

[Quran 2:163] Your god is one god; there is no god but He, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

Hebrew Arabic Value
V W 6
A A 1
H H 8
D D 4
19

As shown in the table above, the Aramaic, Hebrew and Arabic alphabets use to double as numerals in accordance with a universally established system. The Hebrew word for "ONE" is "Vahd" (pronounced V-AHAD). In Arabic, the word "ONE" is "WAHD" (pronounced WAAHED).

The Qur’an’s dominant message is that there is only "One God". The word "One" occurs in the Qur’an 25 times. Six of these occurrences do not refer to God (one kind of food, one door, etc.). The remaining 19 occurrences refer to God.
The word "God" occurs 2, 698 times throughout the Qur’an or a multiple of 19 (2, 698 = 19x142).

The number of verses where the word "God" occurs add up to 118, 123 also a multiple of 19 (118, 123 = 19x6217).

On a more celestial level, the earth, sun and moon become aligned in the same relative position every nineteen years.

Halley’s comet, a profound heavenly phenomenon, visits our solar system once every 76 years, which is 19x4.

God’s stamp upon each of us is manifested in the medical fact that the human body has 209 bones or 19x11.

Langman’s medical embryology, by T. W. Sadler, is used as a textbook in most medical schools in the United States. On page 88 of the fifth edition, we read the following statement: "In general the length of pregnancy for a full term fetus is considered to be 280 days or 40 weeks after the onset of the last menstruation, or more accurately, 266 days or 38 weeks after fertilization." The numbers 266 and 38 are both multiples of 19 or 19x14 and 19x2 respectively.

Another thing i would like to add is about Lord of the rings...

there is a character called Samwise Gamgee.....he kills a spider.

wise = wisdom = Sophia

spider = Neith = NET (Mother of RA)

So you have Sophia and Net

Two mothers, maybe one and the same....

what do you think guys.....i would really appreciate some kind of response.

"In there hearts is a disease and Allah increased them in disease".

 

[billy t]

seems like a interesting program...i will keep an eye open for it...

as you may have seen from the above response from the so called Muslims....i personally dont need to resort to such levels, as i have shown the truth in this thread and others.

this is one thing i hate about muslims, is the hypocrisy, the truth can be staring them in the faces and they still deny it.

Humble yourself buddy. Trust me you have not came up with any great arguments as you seem to think. You say you are Brit. Cool. I challenge you go see the brothers at speakers corner with these feebles arguments. You will be laughed out of the park. Allah compares the arguments of the kufaar to a spider web. Very easy to destroy.

 

[billy t]

There are numerous accounts reporting the alleged incident, which differ in the construction and detail of the narrative, but they may be broadly collated to produce a basic account.[8] The different versions of the story are all traceable to one single narrator Muhammad ibn Ka'b, who was two generations removed from biographer Ibn Ishaq.[2] In its essential form, the story reports that Muhammad longed to convert his kinsmen and neighbors of Mecca to Islam. As he was reciting these verses of Sūrat an-Najm,[9] considered a revelation from the angel Gabriel,

Have you thought of al-Lāt and al-‘Uzzáand Manāt, the third, the other?(Sura 53, 19–20)
Satan tempted him to utter the following line:

These are the exalted gharāniq, whose intercession is hoped for. (In Arabic تلك الغرانيق العلى وإن شفاعتهن لترتجى.)
Allāt, al-'Uzzā and Manāt were three goddesses worshipped by the Meccans. Discerning the meaning of "gharāniq" is difficult, as it is a hapax legomenon (i.e. only used once in the text). Commentators wrote that it meant the cranes. The Arabic word does generally mean a "crane" - appearing in the singular as ghirnīq, ghurnūq, ghirnawq and ghurnayq, and the word has cousin forms in other words for birds, including "raven, crow" and "eagle".[10]

According to Muslim orthodoxy, the actual account of events holds that a group of some of the chiefs of the Quraish (the tribe of Makkah polytheists persecuting the Muslims) happened to be passing by as The Prophet was reciting verses from the Qur'an. It moved their hearts so much, that they instantly fell down on their faces in prostration, and bore witness it was from Allah alone. Then some of their peers happened by, and began to accost them and threaten them, and made them feel ashamed, so they denied what had happened, and said that they only fell down in prostration, because The Prophet gave a concession allowing for them to keep their idol worship yet still be Muslim.

taken from


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_Verses

Wow. You didn't even quote from Salman Rushdie but decided to take from Wikipedia. What great research skills.

1) The report is weak. Refer to Islamic scholars of hadeeth. The narration is fabricated.
2) The Prophet salAllahu alaiyhi wasallam does not make mistakes in conveying the message.
3) Even if we said for the sake of argument that it was authentic (and its not) then it would mean that the kufaar were influenced by shaytaan to hear it in that way.

Another argument smashed. NEXT.

 

[billy t]

It is an undeniable fact of history that before Muhammed was born, the moon god "al-Ilah" (Allah) had three daughters named al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat. The first two were even named after their father. Each daughter had a separate shrine near Mecca, where Allah's shrine was located. http://bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm

Exactly what are the Satanic verses:

Here is how the Koran once read with the satanic verses:

Near it is the Garden of Abode. Behold, the Lote-tree was shrouded (in mystery unspeakable!) (His) sight never swerved, nor did it go wrong! For truly did he see, of the Signs of his Lord, the Greatest! Have ye seen Lat. and 'Uzza, And another, the third (goddess), Manat?

These are the exalted cranes (intermediaries) Whose intercession is to be hoped for.

What! for you the male sex, and for Him, the female? Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair! (an-Najm 53:19-22)

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History clip

Christian apologetics link

Showing the true translation is why Salman Rushdie got a fatwa. Analysis 30 years later

You claim Allah is the moon god. The Qur'aan refutes all falsehood. Allah says "falsehood can not come before it nor in front of it". No need for a long post. I will obliterate your doubt with one ayah.

Allah says, "Do not prostrate to the sun or to the MOON but prostrate to the One who created them if it is Him your worship".

It can't be any more clear! As Allah said, "this is the Book about which there is no doubt".

Another argument smashed.

 

[billy t]

Here is a interesting word MATAM

The Arabic term matam refers in general to an act or gesture of mourning; in Shia Islam the term designates acts of lamentation for the martyrs of Karbala

Maat + Ham = MATAM

There is no such thing as Shia islam. they are not muslims.

 

[billy t]

Surely this is by design? I can't think of any belief system that causes more division in the world. It fits nicely into the problem, reaction, solution methodology which is engineered around us on a daily basis. If all the religions are killing eachother over their beliefs then we'll need a single belief in the future to prevent this from happening.... there is the solution.



Because this is common sense, religion doesn't allow this.



Do you know something Red? I have asked this question on my Disaster Thesbians thread some time ago. I asked people to consider that if just ONE of those "victims" was in fact an actor then what does this mean? What does that tell you about our news media?

Now how are you going to.prove that your religious belief system is the true one?

I'll just keep posting evidence of bad acting, dodgy scripts, dual identities and faked events to show you why I came to my conclusions about this world. I ain't 't worried about any God, it's the evil bastards who act as gods I'm more concerned about....and so should you be.

Islam doesn't cause division. Misguidance does. Those who are divided are those who turned away from the truth.

 

[billy t]

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Their call therein will be, "Exalted are You, O Allah," and their greeting therein will be, "Peace." And the last of their call will be, "Praise to Allah, Lord of the worlds!"

this is according to the quran....10:10

lord of the worlds = more than one world.

Are you serious bro? Do you understand the word 'alaam'. You clearly don't understand arabic. 'Alim which is sometimes translated as worlds means ANYTHING in existance besides Allah. Learn arabic bro.