Ok guys I read the whole thing (over a week, the whole thing, just in the interests of fairness) and i'm only going to write one singular comment, because it feels wrong to just stand by idly, please don't get too pissy, i do mean well and well ... freedom of speech is a thing: you're free to make claims, and i'm free to disagree and critique them, right? we need to welcome varying ideas and arguments in these sorts of discussions
there's only two things i really wish you people could see about yourselves:
1. you're the most sex obsessed and fixated people i have ever seen (pages and pages discussing sexual abuse, cracking jokes about dubai 'sex parties' (which is actually true, so why speak about it so brazenly?) do not look good) ; it's readily apparent that, especially those who are 'ex' fans of bts/kpop, are simply here to fuel their obsession and addiction. you're no better than kpoppies who write explicit fanfiction about members, just because you're using the excuse of 'exposing' things - you said it yourself, it's just 'speculation' and 'discussion' right? so why does it interest you that much? if actual abuse is going on ('occult' or not), aren't there better ways of going about discussing it? it's clear a vast majority of people here have obsessions and fixations they can't seem to healthily get rid of, nor divert. making claims about family members' abuse is Always tactless - if nobody's explicitly said anything's happened, it's good manners and practice to keep it to yourself, it's not your place and it looks very very creepy, i'm sorry, it's very creepy. yes, you're allowed to speculate... but
you need to look within yourself and think about WHY you feel the need to speculate this deeply - and trust me, there's always more meaning to this than just 'i want to expose occult behaviour' - okay, but how are you going about it? is it tactful? respectful? how much are you pulling out of your ass? and most of all -
are you still engaging in obsessive fan behaviour under the pretence of 'exposing' these idols?
2. you are so afraid of androgyny it has to mask some sort of insecurity of a sort, because why else would you be so bothered that men are more beautiful than you? androgyny is truly beautiful, special and unique. i'm sorry others' beauty bothers you so much that you need to go out of your way to insult them to make yourself feel better ... if it's not your thing it's cool, but it's really quite funny to see how bothered you all are ... because if you weren't, why are you so threatened and afraid? it's surely more than just 'NWO agenda', right? or else there wouldn't be constant slurs, snide comments and rude remarks, right? if it was just 'mature discussion' then there should be absolutely no place for ad hominems and slurs. if you can't formulate points without your own bigotry colouring the whole statement, then you clearly don't have a strong enough argument, sorry.
i'm just writing this comment since ... well you all entertained me for a long time, and i do hope you find peace and meaning in life that isn't accusing random men of killing their family members or being beta sex kittens (and especially this is directed to the older people too, if you're in your 30s, you need to see how you're discussing the sexuality of people younger than yourselves, you all creep me out and i'm not even that young)
thank you for reading ... all the best to you all, genuinely. if you feel attacked, then i clearly struck a nerve. i hope you don't and you try to see how people like myself perceive your actions - and do so without reducing everything to 'illuminati brainwashing', you're insulting your own intelligence by doing so.
please enjoy this image of crossdressing men. may it bring you many good vibrations and energies and open your heart to love and fun
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