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Okay so like some type back then I said that I thought jk was the most innocent....and I take that back. I’ve been analyzing them for like two weeks now and it’s always jungkook throwing up some Illuminati symbol. Promoting the one eye.
In all their mvs reversed he looks like a demon...
I just get negative vibes from jungkook now like he looks so evil....
 

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Ok guys I read the whole thing (over a week, the whole thing, just in the interests of fairness) and i'm only going to write one singular comment, because it feels wrong to just stand by idly, please don't get too pissy, i do mean well and well ... freedom of speech is a thing: you're free to make claims, and i'm free to disagree and critique them, right? we need to welcome varying ideas and arguments in these sorts of discussions

there's only two things i really wish you people could see about yourselves:

1. you're the most sex obsessed and fixated people i have ever seen (pages and pages discussing sexual abuse, cracking jokes about dubai 'sex parties' (which is actually true, so why speak about it so brazenly?) do not look good) ; it's readily apparent that, especially those who are 'ex' fans of bts/kpop, are simply here to fuel their obsession and addiction. you're no better than kpoppies who write explicit fanfiction about members, just because you're using the excuse of 'exposing' things - you said it yourself, it's just 'speculation' and 'discussion' right? so why does it interest you that much? if actual abuse is going on ('occult' or not), aren't there better ways of going about discussing it? it's clear a vast majority of people here have obsessions and fixations they can't seem to healthily get rid of, nor divert. making claims about family members' abuse is Always tactless - if nobody's explicitly said anything's happened, it's good manners and practice to keep it to yourself, it's not your place and it looks very very creepy, i'm sorry, it's very creepy. yes, you're allowed to speculate... but you need to look within yourself and think about WHY you feel the need to speculate this deeply - and trust me, there's always more meaning to this than just 'i want to expose occult behaviour' - okay, but how are you going about it? is it tactful? respectful? how much are you pulling out of your ass? and most of all - are you still engaging in obsessive fan behaviour under the pretence of 'exposing' these idols?

2. you are so afraid of androgyny it has to mask some sort of insecurity of a sort, because why else would you be so bothered that men are more beautiful than you? androgyny is truly beautiful, special and unique. i'm sorry others' beauty bothers you so much that you need to go out of your way to insult them to make yourself feel better ... if it's not your thing it's cool, but it's really quite funny to see how bothered you all are ... because if you weren't, why are you so threatened and afraid? it's surely more than just 'NWO agenda', right? or else there wouldn't be constant slurs, snide comments and rude remarks, right? if it was just 'mature discussion' then there should be absolutely no place for ad hominems and slurs. if you can't formulate points without your own bigotry colouring the whole statement, then you clearly don't have a strong enough argument, sorry.

i'm just writing this comment since ... well you all entertained me for a long time, and i do hope you find peace and meaning in life that isn't accusing random men of killing their family members or being beta sex kittens (and especially this is directed to the older people too, if you're in your 30s, you need to see how you're discussing the sexuality of people younger than yourselves, you all creep me out and i'm not even that young)
thank you for reading ... all the best to you all, genuinely. if you feel attacked, then i clearly struck a nerve. i hope you don't and you try to see how people like myself perceive your actions - and do so without reducing everything to 'illuminati brainwashing', you're insulting your own intelligence by doing so.

please enjoy this image of crossdressing men. may it bring you many good vibrations and energies and open your heart to love and fun
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The fact that you read everything just to disagree proves how obsessed you are with protecting these idols like a mindless sheep. Even if we do have an obsession with this thread, its better than to live in ignorance and just follow the world into damnation. I will proudly be obsessed with the truth instead of mindlessly following a lie.
 
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Sinceramente minha mente tem se tornado um imensa loucura...Tenho andado chorando pelos cantos da casa pensando nas possíveis crianças que podem estar sendo sacrificadas e também pela empatia que eu sinto por eles ,porque acredito que nenhum ser humano nasce mal ...Se todas as especulações do fórum se tratarem de ser verdade,esses meninos não chegaram a maldade sozinhos ,acredito que não era o alvo deles se tornarem famosos fazendo sacrifícios e etc ,mas sim pelo talento e treinos que eles passaram anos praticando...Mas,depois que conseguiram debutar tiveram que ser obrigados a fazer essas ações terríveis e a cada dia estão afundando mais e mais sem ter nenhum Socorro e alguém pra mostrar um pouquinho de luz nesse imenso caos,pelo simples e difícil fato de estarem cercados pela escuridão...Me dói muito ver a podridão que o mundo tem se tornado,me machuca ver que o planeta não é o lugar que eu sonhava aos 7 anos...Tudo parece tão cinza e sem esperança!Desejo ir o mais rápido possível pra onde Deus está♡

(Tudo o que eu disse ao respeito de BTS é uma grande especulação, então não fiquem bravos comigo...♡)
My thoughts exactly!!! I feel so bad for the possible sacrifices and it angers me that this happens but I also can’t hate them. What if they are saved by God and we aren’t. I have info that some members wanted to leave but didn’t and it just shows some aren’t happy. They’re disposable to the elite they are the pretty packaging you get before you open an item. It’s ripped and thrown away. So many of these stars want to be famous and want their talents to be heard and this is what they receive. They aren’t given any musical choice. They’re not even allowed to change their hair colour never mind choosing who will be sacrificed for them. Bighit takes all the money anyways so. I know I’m “too nice” for this thread as they are “evil satanic p£dos” but I don’t believe they are fully evil still. There are people controlling them who are!
The fact that you read everything just to disagree proves how obsessed you are with protecting these idols like a mindless sheep. Even if we do have an obsession with this thread, its better than to live in ignorance and just follow the world into damnation. I will proudly be obsessed with the truth instead of mindlessly following a lie.
Exactly. This thread is so damn entertaining haha!! I seriously love what’s been discussed here and ik some had a problem that the thread was changing but it doesn’t matter if we’re not always making high quality posts. Having this community where people can be unapologetically themselves without being torn apart by “army” and also have a space to subside from BTS is good! I hope many users are benefitted. So please don’t stop posting guys. I really do enjoy being here
 
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My thoughts exactly!!! I feel so bad for the possible sacrifices and it angers me that this happens but I also can’t hate them. What if they are saved by God and we aren’t. I have info that some members wanted to leave but didn’t and it just shows some aren’t happy. They’re disposable to the elite they are the pretty packaging you get before you open an item. It’s ripped and thrown away. So many of these stars want to be famous and want their talents to be heard and this is what they receive. They aren’t given any musical choice. They’re not even allowed to change their hair colour never mind choosing who will be sacrificed for them. Bighit takes all the money anyways so. I know I’m “too nice” for this thread as they are “evil satanic p£dos” but I don’t believe they are fully evil still. There are people controlling them who are!

Exactly. This thread is so damn entertaining haha!! I seriously love what’s been discussed here and ik some had a problem that the thread was changing but it doesn’t matter if we’re not always making high quality posts. Having this community where people can be unapologetically themselves without being torn apart by “army” and also have a space to subside from BTS is good! I hope many users are benefitted. So please don’t stop posting guys.
I enjoy it here too. I finally have a place I can discuss my opinions without getting dragged and threatened.
 

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My thoughts exactly!!! I feel so bad for the possible sacrifices and it angers me that this happens but I also can’t hate them. What if they are saved by God and we aren’t. I have info that some members wanted to leave but didn’t and it just shows some aren’t happy. They’re disposable to the elite they are the pretty packaging you get before you open an item. It’s ripped and thrown away. So many of these stars want to be famous and want their talents to be heard and this is what they receive. They aren’t given any musical choice. They’re not even allowed to change their hair colour never mind choosing who will be sacrificed for them. Bighit takes all the money anyways so. I know I’m “too nice” for this thread as they are “evil satanic p£dos” but I don’t believe they are fully evil still. There are people controlling them who are!

Exactly. This thread is so damn entertaining haha!! I seriously love what’s been discussed here and ik some had a problem that the thread was changing but it doesn’t matter if we’re not always making high quality posts. Having this community where people can be unapologetically themselves without being torn apart by “army” and also have a space to subside from BTS is good! I hope many users are benefitted. So please don’t stop posting guys. I really do enjoy being here
For me, I'm just glad that I found people who were also seeing the evils of K-pop .. I really couldn't find anything and this thread opened my eyes and confirmed my suspicions. I am not here to hate on BTS but to remind myself that we shouldn't get attached to this world because there are too many lies and deceitfulness. So many people out there are following all these trends and agendas and I barely have any friends who don't.. this thread is important to me, but I don't think I'm obsessed as the other user claimed we are. It's just an escape from the world where many people seem to be blind
 

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Not BTS related, but so interesting. Poppy says she loves her handler and God. Titanic also seemed to be her handler. She now seems to be satanic. Mk ultra is super real

Not BTS related, but so interesting. Poppy says she loves her handler and God. Titanic also seemed to be her handler. She now seems to be satanic. Mk ultra is super real
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( my life is perfect, I love my fans , my handler , my God ) doesn't it sound like what BTS say ? handler : Bang Pedo
 
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Ok guys I read the whole thing (over a week, the whole thing, just in the interests of fairness) and i'm only going to write one singular comment, because it feels wrong to just stand by idly, please don't get too pissy, i do mean well and well ... freedom of speech is a thing: you're free to make claims, and i'm free to disagree and critique them, right? we need to welcome varying ideas and arguments in these sorts of discussions

there's only two things i really wish you people could see about yourselves:

1. you're the most sex obsessed and fixated people i have ever seen (pages and pages discussing sexual abuse, cracking jokes about dubai 'sex parties' (which is actually true, so why speak about it so brazenly?) do not look good) ; it's readily apparent that, especially those who are 'ex' fans of bts/kpop, are simply here to fuel their obsession and addiction. you're no better than kpoppies who write explicit fanfiction about members, just because you're using the excuse of 'exposing' things - you said it yourself, it's just 'speculation' and 'discussion' right? so why does it interest you that much? if actual abuse is going on ('occult' or not), aren't there better ways of going about discussing it? it's clear a vast majority of people here have obsessions and fixations they can't seem to healthily get rid of, nor divert. making claims about family members' abuse is Always tactless - if nobody's explicitly said anything's happened, it's good manners and practice to keep it to yourself, it's not your place and it looks very very creepy, i'm sorry, it's very creepy. yes, you're allowed to speculate... but you need to look within yourself and think about WHY you feel the need to speculate this deeply - and trust me, there's always more meaning to this than just 'i want to expose occult behaviour' - okay, but how are you going about it? is it tactful? respectful? how much are you pulling out of your ass? and most of all - are you still engaging in obsessive fan behaviour under the pretence of 'exposing' these idols?

2. you are so afraid of androgyny it has to mask some sort of insecurity of a sort, because why else would you be so bothered that men are more beautiful than you? androgyny is truly beautiful, special and unique. i'm sorry others' beauty bothers you so much that you need to go out of your way to insult them to make yourself feel better ... if it's not your thing it's cool, but it's really quite funny to see how bothered you all are ... because if you weren't, why are you so threatened and afraid? it's surely more than just 'NWO agenda', right? or else there wouldn't be constant slurs, snide comments and rude remarks, right? if it was just 'mature discussion' then there should be absolutely no place for ad hominems and slurs. if you can't formulate points without your own bigotry colouring the whole statement, then you clearly don't have a strong enough argument, sorry.

i'm just writing this comment since ... well you all entertained me for a long time, and i do hope you find peace and meaning in life that isn't accusing random men of killing their family members or being beta sex kittens (and especially this is directed to the older people too, if you're in your 30s, you need to see how you're discussing the sexuality of people younger than yourselves, you all creep me out and i'm not even that young)
thank you for reading ... all the best to you all, genuinely. if you feel attacked, then i clearly struck a nerve. i hope you don't and you try to see how people like myself perceive your actions - and do so without reducing everything to 'illuminati brainwashing', you're insulting your own intelligence by doing so.

please enjoy this image of crossdressing men. may it bring you many good vibrations and energies and open your heart to love and fun
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This comment made me lol so hard. Ah good ol armies
 

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I like to make theory and analysis on the members of BTS today based on what the former users noted about the mic colours they had and the tree of life (kabbalah connection).


2 Notes: I reject all and every belief and association in using tarot and fortune-telling's ability to see the unseen/future. I am only using this to note the parallels between rank/personality and member that the company possibly used. Additionally I have not gone through all 1400 pages of this thread so do excuse any repetitions I made.


Now long story short I connected their official colors to the Kabbalah tree of life...and I also connected them to the tarots as well, which any occultist will tell you is linked. This is in order of highest initiate to lowest (from Black - Blue - Red - Yellow - Green - Purple) which makes a lighning shape on the tree (lighting according to christianity is a symbol of satan).

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0 - 10 is the tree of life and 10 to 20 is the reversed version (Some call it the 'root'). I put the tarot in green and red and put the meaning with equals sign next to it

Name - Color - Tarot upright (tree of life) / Tarot upsidedown (roots of kabbalah tree)


Sug_3 - Black - (3) Empress = Abundance / (17) Star = Despair

[ He is the only one with a link to a feminine symbol. Perhaps this may hint his effeminate nature or preferences to men as well as woman - or a dual nature we are unaware of ]

Suga is known to like money, and is of course abundant in riches. And he is also known to have/had depression.

R_M - Blue - (4) Emperor = Leadership / (16) Tower = Losses

Emperor makes sense, he is the leader. But Losses, who knows? What did he lose I wonder? Anyone take his throne?

J_H - Red - (5) Hierophant = Education / (15) Devil = Freedom from restraints

No Idea tbh. His one is the only one I could find no parallels. I think this links to his dancing style perhaps.

J-M-N - (6) Yellow(gold) - Lovers = Commitment / (14) Temperance = Imbalance

His commitment to his role has led him to excessive weight loss and loyalty to the group. The BS+T era is when this new 'playboy' image came out and has stayed since. Also interesting to note but Taemin (his friend) who he looks up to his official colour is also yellow, their public image re-haul is very similar.

V - Green - (7) Chariot = Ambition / (13) Death = Living unaware


It is not hard to see that V's ambition makes him quite domineering among the group. He probably has a presence that is intimidating when competitive.


Also as you can see, 'death' meaning here means 'living unaware'. Hmm . . .Could also just actually mean 'death' itself in this case. Perhaps he symbolises the angel of death rather than satan. I wonder what role then he plays in BS+T? Who was that statue with black wings?


JK - Purple - (9) Hermit = Soul-Searching (or new initiate) / (11) Strength = Self-Doubt


Theories flew around after fake lo\/e on this forum that he now is 'in' the group, so this is fitting, not to mention he has the maknae role. As for self-doubt, you be the judge.


So this kabbalah order may explain (if you believe they are initiates and into the occult, or at the very least, being used as unknown puppets by the company) heir personality direction, strength and weakness (and energy they put out there). We could also say this may be related to the BS+T story line onwards.


Oh. . .and you're probably wondering why I missed a name. I didn't. The colour Pink is the only one missing from the tree of LIFE.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing .. I wonder why Jin is the one missing .

Also, TH weakness is living unaware . Could it be a reference to MK ultra ?
 
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The fact that you read everything just to disagree proves how obsessed you are with protecting these idols like a mindless sheep. Even if we do have an obsession with this thread, its better than to live in ignorance and just follow the world into damnation. I will proudly be obsessed with the truth instead of mindlessly following a lie.
Nice sister I like your response
 
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honestly this kind of looks creepy... the lights make it hard to see but look at jk's eyes when he just stays there with his eyes open like that and just in general the way they were singing, i dont think they sing bad but they seemed KIND OF high/drunk :oops:
What is wrong with me today Jimins singing has me laughing so hard it was terrible, I cant even. I mean yoh.
 

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The fact that you read everything just to disagree proves how obsessed you are with protecting these idols like a mindless sheep. Even if we do have an obsession with this thread, its better than to live in ignorance and just follow the world into damnation. I will proudly be obsessed with the truth instead of mindlessly following a lie.
This is the first time I’m writing anything online publicly and I am a little apprehensive. This will be long. I feel I must write this because reading what other people have written across platforms has opened my eyes to what’s going on in the industry. I hope this can help someone who is struggling too. I first heard b*t*s when i was in college, sometime in 2016. I didn’t think too much of them other than the fact that Dope sounded similar to a Flo Rida song. Their choreography was impressive (I later learnt that Keone Madrid was the choreographer and I love his work).That was that, I didn’t really follow them after. I just knew they were getting big. Musically, i didn’t think they were all that amazing, most of the songs sound like recycled western pop music with Korean lyrics, even their hip-hop music is so heavily influenced by western hip-hop. There’s nothing Korean about it except for the language and aesthetic. I judged those who swore by kpop, I judged those who were die-hard fans. Coming from a musical family, I really judged the standards set by this group.

Fast forward to a month ago - I watched them on carpool karaoke, and then I just wanted to know their names so I watched an introduction video (fan made). They seemed very funny and quite charming. From then my YT feed just showed fan made compilation videos. I was still skeptical about their musical ability so I watched a concert and I was blown away by the sheer scale of their performances. Although there was playback, they were still singing live over it and the dancing was so good. Not to mention the drop dead cool costumes (especially the Dior ones). I got hooked, and started consuming so much b*t*s content. I knew how horribly exploitative the industry was, and I knew there were dark elements to their videos but I overlooked it consciously. I admired the fact that literature was used, that the videos had storylines, that these guys practiced so much. It was all so endearing - watching the first anniversary episode with J!n sitting on the floor cutting vegetables, yoong! and J1m!n having to frost the cake in the BH office because there wasn’t space in their apartment - all of this just drew me in, and I allowed that to happen. I was becoming a fan - someone I swore I’d never be. It’s important to state this now, I looked down on kpop and pop music in general because I thought I had better taste and this made me very proud, in the sense, I felt I was better than those around me. Falling into this kpop fandom so easily shattered this pride of mine, I really had to sit back as a 24 year old and consider the kind of attitude/pride/judgement I harboured in my heart. Now, I have the ability to empathise with those who call themselves army. I understand the addictive nature of this kind of entertainment. I don’t judge them anymore, rather, I feel compelled to help and pray for them. Going through this journey of getting addicted to them for a while forced me to get off my high horse and consider why people fall for these guys. If you are struggling, know that there is a way out, seek the truth, do your own research and remember God loves you.

As for proof of their songs and videos being much more sinister and symbolic, you can read multiple posts, video analysis,etc. More importantly, use your own eyes and mind to read the lyrics of their songs - lie, save me, blood, sweat and tears, pied piper, on, etc. There’s a recurring theme of them saying they’ve sold themselves for fame, of them asking for help, of them asking you to turn away from their music (and then contradicting it by seducing you back into that world). Do your own research, use your brains and don’t just simply consume the personas they want you to buy. Are the boys themselves unaware and innocent? I highly doubt it. They are proper adults who can make their own decisions. I still pray for them, it isn’t my place to write them off as damned for eternity. Read the threads on this forum, filter through the information yourself and decide who they really are - another tool of the elite to promote their ideologies. As for the “love yourself” message - it seems all rosy and encouraging on the outside but break down the concept and you arrive at its problematic nature. As humans we are capable of good and evil. The most evil people to have existed were those who loved themselves and their ideologies over anything/everything else. I believe we need someone bigger than ourselves. For me, self love is implicit in the commands of loving God and loving others as yourself. Real empowerment comes from recognizing your worth and value because God made you for a purpose and in fulfilling that you will be loving others as well. Loving yourself can easily cross over to becoming selfish, it’s a very fine line between the two. This “love yourself” message is to the detriment of the young and very impressionable audience.

I knew something was wrong and the more I see them on the media, the more news there is about them, the more I’m convinced about the sheer mass manipulation that is happening through them. Open your eyes, free your mind and seek the truth.


John 8: 31-32:
So Jesus said to the Jews who had believed him, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”

Thanks to everyone who has contributed to this thread, it’s been very helpful and I'm glad this space exists. God bless.
 
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All their singing makes me want to bang my head against a wall and rip my ears out.
Lol really.?? Well I to be honest still like the way they sound. I dont really keep up to date with them but when I did I honestly feel they have good voices. Well jimin used to be my bias hahahaha but his voice was never great live. I dont even care about bts anymore I just really love this thread
 

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Bee tee ass have deceived so many people. Sheeple are so easy to manipulate. I'm deeply praying their hype dies down. Or maybe they'll just sacrifice Jin ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Speaking of Jin's sacrifice.....

I just read this article :eek:
 

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I guess because of all the evil and torure these people's hearts become so tainted and evil ... so they just seek materialism and things that ruin people that give temporary satisfaction like drugs etc at the extent of others lives and all to try and satisfy themselves and feel better but in the end its pretty worthless and they don't all necessarily enjoy it because of the torture they're being put through and how they're over worked as slaves to the industry.. its so sad. But also they're being controlled as well so I'm not even sure if they're fully after that kind of control at times , i wonder if its
them that want this power ? or the devil controlling them and trying to seek power from them for his own dirty work ? it just confuses me really ...
Even if I was a celebrity and wanted fame/money so bad, I still wouldn't sacrifice my loved ones. I would rather live being poor with my loved ones than to live being rich and famous without my family.
I mean you gotta be one SICK, DESPERATE, HUNGRY AND SOULESS INDIVIDUAL to do such thing. What they don't understand is that all that fame and money are not gonna last and it's just temporal and material things and eventually they gonna live the rest of their lives with guilt and misery.
 
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