homosexuality

[Lisa]

what is a standard hetro couple? what is normal? especially these days, speaking as someone in a committed non married relationship for 18 years and childless, thankfully we dont live in the biblical times i like my set up.

i dont see why not. marriage is no longer about contracts between families and making babies, generally people marry for love or partnership, on top of that plenty of hetro couples go into marriage without thought or care, so why shouldn't a gay couple who are seriously committed to each other marry and make themselves legally safer as a a couple.

regarding children, well first off hetro couples are not guaranteed to have the traditional families, some cant have children, some adopt, some never have children or want children at all.
when it comes to gay couples, some dont even want children they are like myself a childfree person and happy, if they want children why not? i dont see the issue here there are thousands of children desperate for for loving homes, and surely they are better with a loving same sex couple who will give them a good home, full stomachs, unconditional love and a good education, instead of remaining in care, unloved and sent to the streets at 18.
Also i think of it like this, a hetro couple they can just get pregnant, make mistakes, the child is not wanted, but a gay couple well we know they cant get each other pregnant naturally so they have to think about it, plan and decide.

to finish off, being gay does not make you automatically bad or a pedo, the opposite goes for hetro people we have seen this up front and in the news recently. Ian watkins, Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, all perverts, sex offenders or pedos, all abused young girls, non are gay.

so i just dont see why its wrong for people to live their lives as a couple if they care about each other even if their genitals match.

Because God says it’s wrong.

 

[Tidal]

If God thought being gay was alright, he wouldn't have trashed Sodom/Gomorrah..

LOT- "don't look back!"
WIFE- "Stop telling me what to do!"
(Cue photon torpedo barrage)
WIFE- "Funny, my skin feels a little dry.."

 

[cjkkw]

If God thought being gay was alright, he wouldn't have trashed Sodom/Gomorrah..

LOT- "don't look back!"
WIFE- "Stop telling me what to do!"
(Cue photon torpedo barrage)
WIFE- "Funny, my skin feels a little dry.."

god is a homosexual.

 

[kerrichinchilla]

How can they live as heterosexuals? They cannot procreate together, they need a third party to help with that aspect. And God hates homosexuality, it’s not what He said was good, which is a man leaving his parents and cleaving to his wife. Man and woman.

Many hetro couples can't procreate and need third party help, either a donor or IVF.
The Bible also said that r*pe, child murder and genocide is ok, the dude is not a nice guy.

 

[kerrichinchilla]

Because God says it’s wrong.

Which god, Vishnu, Aphrodite, Athena, Thor, ganesh
Of you mean the Judeo-Christian god, it also demanded noome eats pork or forbid the wearing of different fabrics, are you wearing more than one fabric right now?
Also the Bible's full of contradictions which one is right?
Or maybe take into account homosexuality has been around longer than the Bible, men and women have enjoyed sex and relations with the same sex long before the Judeo-Christian god came on the scene.

 

[kerrichinchilla]

If God thought being gay was alright, he wouldn't have trashed Sodom/Gomorrah..

LOT- "don't look back!"
WIFE- "Stop telling me what to do!"
(Cue photon torpedo barrage)
WIFE- "Funny, my skin feels a little dry.."

He also allowed the men of soddam/gamorrah to r*pe a slave to death, so yeah not a guy to look up to.

 

[Tidal]

god is a homosexual.

That's an interesting consp-theory but can be easily shot down by remembering God trashed the gay towns of Sodom/Gomorrah.
That's because they were the "nasty" type of gays, loud, noisy, militant and depraved, the sort nobody likes.
Happily, most gays are not like that, most are friendly and funny..

PS- I applied to be a volunteer at a local charity shop a few years ago even though the manager was openly gay, but I didn't mind because he was a nice guy, but he said "Sorry, I've got all the volunteers I need right now".
Huh you try to be nice (sniffle)..

 

[Lisa]

Many hetro couples can't procreate and need third party help, either a donor or IVF.
The Bible also said that r*pe, child murder and genocide is ok, the dude is not a nice guy.

Most can procreate but the reasons they can’t don’t mean that homosexuality is ok.

I think you’ve got something in your head about the Bible and think it’s true. God didn’t say any of that was ok.

Which god, Vishnu, Aphrodite, Athena, Thor, ganesh
Of you mean the Judeo-Christian god, it also demanded noome eats pork or forbid the wearing of different fabrics, are you wearing more than one fabric right now?
Also the Bible's full of contradictions which one is right?
Or maybe take into account homosexuality has been around longer than the Bible, men and women have enjoyed sex and relations with the same sex long before the Judeo-Christian god came on the scene.

Yahweh..the creator and the One true God who made you and I and everything around us says it’s wrong.

You haven’t taken into account the NT and Jesus I’m what you’re saying to me..if anyone should keep the law it would be you since you’re unsaved..though that is unfair for me to say since no one can keep the law due to sin.

Um..no..homosexuality hasn’t been around longer than the Bible. The Bible starts from the beginning when God made everything..nothing was around longer than that. And in the beginning there was no sin and God made only one man and one woman..which God said should be together. Not two men and not two women..one man and one woman. That’s is the way of it..that’s the way God designed it.

 

[ohhi9876]

im gonna leave you with your thoughts. but just knowledge two mothers and two fathers can and will raise children just the same as heterosexuals.

and single parents?

 

[MP3D]

i knew Lisa would open her mouth sooner or later. predictable.

this thread is a trolls paradise. set up.

 

[MP3D]

If God thought being gay was alright, he wouldn't have trashed Sodom/Gomorrah..

LOT- "don't look back!"
WIFE- "Stop telling me what to do!"
(Cue photon torpedo barrage)
WIFE- "Funny, my skin feels a little dry.."

This story of Sodom and Gomorrah is about hospitality and the social requirement of helping visitors. When reviewed carefully it becomes evident that it is not a story having anything to do with homosexuality. The men in the town decide to do one of the most inhospitable things possible – r*pe. It would be unlikely for all the men of Sodom to be homosexuals, so why would they want “to know” (the euphemism used in the Bible to mean sexual relations) the two foreigners/angels except to have forced sexual relations with them. In the Near East during ancient times (and today in wars occurring in Africa and the Middle East) soldiers commonly used homosexual r*pe as a way of humiliating their enemies. (Miner & Connoley, pg. 5, citing Greenberg, pgs. 130, 147) The soldiers wanted to break the spirit of their defeated enemies and “treat them like women” by raping them. The practice was not driven by sexual desire, but by brutality and hatred toward the enemy. (Miner & Connoley, pg. 5) The sin of Sodom is about hard-heartedness, abuse, insult to the traveler, and inhospitality to the needy (Helminiak, pg. 46), not about committed homosexual relationships that exist today. One of the most disturbing parts of the story occurs when Lot offers his two daughters “who have not known a man,” to the town crowd. The story assumes that Lot is expected by societal norms to keep the visitors safe and that they have priority over his own daughters. Lot’s offer makes graphically clear the value of women, relative to men, in that culture. In this story women - 5 - are not protected, and women become the means by which men are protected. (deGroot, pg. 22; Dwyer, pg. 8) In addition, if the men of the town were homosexuals, Lot would certainly have known that they would have no sexual interest in his daughters. Adam Hamilton states that he doubted any of the men of Sodom would have considered themselves homosexual by our definition today. Genesis 18 tells us the people of Sodom regularly practiced evil. This attempted gang r*pe was just the latest in a long line of horrible things the people of Sodom had done. (Hamilton, pg. 268) Sodom is mentioned elsewhere in the Bible (Isaiah 1:10-17 and 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14 and Zephaniah 2:8-11) but the sins of Sodom, as identified in those texts, are injustice, oppression, partiality, adultery, lies and encouraging evildoers. (Helminiak, pg. 49) Even Jesus makes reference to Sodom in Matthew 10:5-15 as he talks about the rejection of God’s messengers (Helminiak, pg. 49) but he, also, makes reference only to the town’s lack of hospitality. “If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, shake off the dust from your feet as you leave that house or town. Truly I tell you, it will be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah on the Day of Judgment than for that town.” Jesus is teaching his disciples that they will face rejection and predicts judgment against those who won’t listen to God’s word. If the main lesson to be drawn from the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is an anti-homosexual message, wouldn’t Jesus have mentioned that? Since he didn’t, we are drawn to the conclusion that the Genesis passage has nothing to do with committed, homosexual relationships as we know them today.

 

[MP3D]

Most can procreate but the reasons they can’t don’t mean that homosexuality is ok.

I think you’ve got something in your head about the Bible and think it’s true. God didn’t say any of that was ok.



Yahweh..the creator and the One true God who made you and I and everything around us says it’s wrong.

You haven’t taken into account the NT and Jesus I’m what you’re saying to me..if anyone should keep the law it would be you since you’re unsaved..though that is unfair for me to say since no one can keep the law due to sin.

Um..no..homosexuality hasn’t been around longer than the Bible. The Bible starts from the beginning when God made everything..nothing was around longer than that. And in the beginning there was no sin and God made only one man and one woman..which God said should be together. Not two men and not two women..one man and one woman. That’s is the way of it..that’s the way God designed it.

https://www.rmnetwork.org/newrmn/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Booklet-about-Homosexuality-and-the-Bible-Sept.-2016.pdf

 

[Lisa]

https://www.rmnetwork.org/newrmn/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Booklet-about-Homosexuality-and-the-Bible-Sept.-2016.pdf

Interesting..I’ll read that when I have more time but I already know there are wrong about what the say.
Because God said that homosexuality is an abomination to Him.
something regarded with disgust or hatred :something abominable

Can’t really get around that especially when He made woman to help man and man to leave his mom and dad and cleave to her. Even procreation is about a man and woman..homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of God and in fact it’s disgusting to Him.

 

[MP3D]

Interesting..I’ll read that when I have more time but I already know there are wrong about what the say.
Because God said that homosexuality is an abomination to Him.
something regarded with disgust or hatred :something abominable

Can’t really get around that especially when He made woman to help man and man to leave his mom and dad and cleave to her. Even procreation is about a man and woman..homosexuality is wrong in the eyes of God and in fact it’s disgusting to Him.

but incest is perfectly fine. interesting.......

 

[Lisa]

but incest is perfectly fine. interesting.......

That’s random..

 

[Tidal]

..One of the most disturbing parts of the story occurs when Lot offers his two daughters “who have not known a man,” to the town crowd..

Perhaps Lot was hoping the girls would cure them of their homosexuality..
Anyway, the gays had been at it with each other for a long time before that and eventually God's patience ran out and he decided it was zapperoo time, just like he zapped heathen tribes and anybody else who didn't shape up-

"And God sent an angel to Jerusalem to destroy it. As he was destroying, the Lord looked and relented of the disaster, and said to the angel who was destroying, “It is enough; now restrain your hand.”
Then David lifted his eyes and saw the angel of the Lord standing between earth and heaven, having in his hand a drawn sword stretched out over Jerusalem" (1 Chron 21:16/16)

 

[MP3D]

That’s random..

how so?
you believe we are all the decedents of the first man and woman right?

 

[MP3D]

Perhaps Lot was hoping the girls would cure them of their homosexuality..
Anyway, the gays had been at it with each other for a long time before that and eventually God's patience ran out and he decided it was zapperoo time, just like he zapped heathen tribes and anybody else who didn't shape up-

"And God sent an angel to Jerusalem to destroy it. As he was destroying, the Lord looked and relented of the disaster, and said to the angel who was destroying, “It is enough; now restrain your hand.”
Then David lifted his eyes and saw the angel of the Lord standing between earth and heaven, having in his hand a drawn sword stretched out over Jerusalem" (1 Chron 21:16/16)

come out of the closet. its time.

 

[kerrichinchilla]

Most can procreate but the reasons they can’t don’t mean that homosexuality is ok.

I think you’ve got something in your head about the Bible and think it’s true. God didn’t say any of that was ok.



Yahweh..the creator and the One true God who made you and I and everything around us says it’s wrong.

You haven’t taken into account the NT and Jesus I’m what you’re saying to me..if anyone should keep the law it would be you since you’re unsaved..though that is unfair for me to say since no one can keep the law due to sin.

Um..no..homosexuality hasn’t been around longer than the Bible. The Bible starts from the beginning when God made everything..nothing was around longer than that. And in the beginning there was no sin and God made only one man and one woman..which God said should be together. Not two men and not two women..one man and one woman. That’s is the way of it..that’s the way God designed it.

Yahweh is Jesus in Aramaic, I always love christians, Jesus is god but god is his father so he impregnated his mother with himself.

Christianity is just over 2020 years old, the Bible in it current form is less than that due to the council of Nicea.

The old testament is about 2700 years old give or take. Yet there are religions out their that are 10, 000 plus years old, we know we see the proof in Egypt, Italy, Greece, Peru, Mexico, China, russia, Norway and the UK. Judeo-Christian religions are some of the youngest. And in many of these religions be homosexual was ok, in fact I some cases encouraged.

The world's millions of years old, human civilisation began tens of thousands of years ago and the old testament is a mere 2700 years old at best. The Bible says life began 6000 years a go and has been proven wrong time and time again.

Also Jesus said he did not come to change the rules of the old testament, the whole Bible is a cluster of contradictions and scientific inaccuracies.

 

[Tidal]

come out of the closet. its time.

My DNA is just fine mate..