The TRUE BIBLICAL TRUTH; Esau will fall, Jacob will rise

[Artful Revealer]

You tell me... Which one of these 10 horns err.... I mean 10 tribes do you descend from?

Huns
Herulis
Vandals
Ostrogoths
Anglo-Saxons
Lombards
Franks
Burgundians
Visgoths
Suevi

Which one of these horns err... my bad, "tribes" do you come from?

None of those.

My answer is idk sir. Can you enlighten me? I only know about 613 commandments...

Like I said. Intellectual cowardice and disingenuity. Seems to be the trend among self-proclaimed Israelites not to answer straightforward questions.

 

[LittleLady]

You tell me... Which one of these 10 horns err.... I mean 10 tribes do you descend from?

Huns
Herulis
Vandals
Ostrogoths
Anglo-Saxons
Lombards
Franks
Burgundians
Visgoths
Suevi

Which one of these horns err... my bad, "tribes" do you come from?



My answer is idk sir. Can you enlighten me? I only know about 613 commandments...

Horns...the 10 horns of the dragon which has 7 heads which represents 7 countries, correct?

 

[Artful Revealer]

Well, if God tells me I'm chosen, then how in the world would I not be with him in the end?

How do you know it's God who chose you?

 

[LittleLady]

Following up a ridiculous nonsensical statement with another nonsensical statement isn't going to get us anywhere.

Who are "my" people?

What are the Ten Commandments?

I put you on ignore for a while, but I really just need to tell you that you should leave because there's no place for heathens here. That's why Koncrete is dodging your questions because they know of your nature. If we were to answer you, you would mock us in the end and this thread would become off topic for quite a while. So please stop derailing this thread and constantly asking Konrete what the 10 commandments are, when YOU KNOW what they are.

@KoncreteMind I believe it is his job to throw this thread off topic, what is the point in continuing with him?

 

[LittleLady]

How do you know it's God who chose you?

First, he revealed the truth through my sister, then I only believed some of it. I walked in doubt for a few months, but I knew God spiritually touched my spirit and told me I belong to him. I disregarded that, sadly. It was only last week, everything was revealed, and now I know my future, and will continue abiding by Gods laws and serving him just as I will do tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, and all of eternity.

The end.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I put you on ignore for a while, but I really just need to tell you that you should leave because there's no place for heathens here. That's why Koncrete is dodging your questions because they know of your nature. If we were to answer you, you would mock us in the end and this thread would become off topic for quite a while. So please stop derailing this thread and constantly asking Konrete what the 10 commandments are, when YOU KNOW what they are.

@KoncreteMind I believe it is his job to throw this thread off topic, what is the point in continuing with him?

I have as much right to be part of, or be informed of, THE TRUTH, as you would call it. Neither does your thread title or OP explicitely restrict the topic to Israelites only. If you were to change that now, it would still not rightfully dismiss my right to ask questions about your "truth" especially if my and "my" people's ultimate demise is supposedly inevitable.

 

[Artful Revealer]

First, he revealed the truth through my sister, then I only believed some of it. I walked in doubt for a few months, but I knew God spiritually touched my spirit and told me I belong to him. I disregarded that, sadly. It was only last week, everything was revealed, and now I know my future, and will continue abiding by Gods laws and serving him just as I will do tomorrow, next week, next month, next year, and all of eternity.

The end.

How do you know it's God and not another spirit?

 

[LittleLady]

None of those.

Like I said. Intellectual cowardice and disingenuity. Seems to be the trend among self-proclaimed Israelites not to answer straightforward questions.

You are not of God, you are of the devil and I really think you should leave. Your intentions are as clear as broad daylight, dude. Give it up.

 

[LittleLady]

How do you know it's God and not another spirit?

Because Gods chosen would obviously be able to decipher God from satan, who is a deceiving spirit. Also, the curses of Deuteronomy align with my family and I.

You know what? I don't think you realize that these questions you're asking are helping people who are watching to read the word, because if the watchers are relating to me, then my answers to your questions are making them happy.

 

[Artful Revealer]

You are not of God, you are of the devil and I really think you should leave. Your intentions are as clear as broad daylight, dude. Give it up.

If you want a debate on who the Devil is, I'd be an excellent candidate. But you should refrain from using ad hominems while not answering direct questions. My intentions, if any, would be to save people from believing what you or people like KoncreteMind believe, because your beliefs are extremely dangerous, and on top of that, entirely untrue.

So if you're convinced of possessing the truth, you shouldn't back away from defending it against inquiry and scrutiny.

 

[KoncreteMind]

None of those.

Thats where the Caucasian comes from sir. And 3 of those are no more btw so I guess the question would be which 7 out of the 10 you come from

Like I said. Intellectual cowardice and disingenuity. Seems to be the trend among self-proclaimed Israelites not to answer straightforward questions.

Instead of being a man and saying what you have to say, you're here trying to get me to play your game that comes with a script. Make your point and ask me your question or keep it moving. Im not playing your game lol

 

[KoncreteMind]

I put you on ignore for a while, but I really just need to tell you that you should leave because there's no place for heathens here. That's why Koncrete is dodging your questions because they know of your nature. If we were to answer you, you would mock us in the end and this thread would become off topic for quite a while. So please stop derailing this thread and constantly asking Konrete what the 10 commandments are, when YOU KNOW what they are.

@KoncreteMind I believe it is his job to throw this thread off topic, what is the point in continuing with him?

The problem is, I've made posts to you that go on ignored. Whether it be who Esau is or now the last post I made to you. But this is your thread and Im not trying to stomp on it or redirect it to a place I want. So if you're asking me to stop, I will. It just doesnt make sense that you claim Im your brother, we were having a conversation and when we reach a point that, from my pov, makes you uncomfortable you stop responding. But when Im talking with Art, that piques your interest?

And if you look at it another way, you can use detractors as a way to sharpen your own sword as they'll often give you viewpoints, right or wrong, that you havent even looked at...Im not sure what we're interrupting but by all means, its your thread and out of respect to that, I'll stop if you ask...

 

[LittleLady]

The problem is, I've made posts to you that go on ignored. Whether it be who Esau is or now the last post I made to you. But this is your thread and Im not trying to stomp on it or redirect it to a place I want. So if you're asking me to stop, I will. It just doesnt make sense that you claim Im your brother, we were having a conversation and when we reach a point that, from my pov, makes you uncomfortable you stop responding. But when Im talking with Art, that piques your interest?

And if you look at it another way, you can use detractors as a way to sharpen your own sword as they'll often give you viewpoints, right or wrong, that you havent even looked at...Im not sure what we're interrupting but by all means, its your thread and out of respect to that, I'll stop if you ask...

I'm too busy trying to stop artful from derailing the thread, so I apologize if I missed any post of yours. I don't mind having a convo with YOU, but when it comes to artful, his main purpose is to derail the thread and all I want is for us to stay on topic instead of arguing with him so that any watchers can take notes about the actual topic. He's derailing the thread by appearing with innocent questions yet have sly intentions. I'm only paying attention to your talk with artful because I just want him to leave so we can get back on topic.

But like I said, your choice, so you don't have to stop if you don't want to, it's just highly suggested.

Now that it's partially calm, what were you trying to tell me before?

 

[Artful Revealer]

Thats where the Caucasian comes from sir. And 3 of those are no more btw so I guess the question would be which 7 out of the 10 you come from

Instead of being a man and saying what you have to say, you're here trying to get me to play your game that comes with a script. Make your point and ask me your question or keep it moving. Im not playing your game lol

You said the Torah is to be followed in its entirety by your people. You also said that I'm punching above my weight class, that you know more about the Torah than I do. I'm not saying you don't, but I'm going to test you. I'm going to show you, which I initially wanted to show this little lady, that you probably don't even know the foundation of the Torah's law, ie. the Ten Commandments. Prove everyone here you know what the 10 Commandments are and maybe people would start taking you seriously that you would be able to commit.

 

[Artful Revealer]

I'm too busy trying to stop artful from derailing the thread, so I apologize if I missed any post of yours. I don't mind having a convo with YOU, but when it comes to artful, his main purpose is to derail the thread and all I want is for us to stay on topic

You say this in your OP:

Do not only follow 10 commandments

So you explicitely state to follow the 10 commandments.

How is asking about the Ten Commandments off-topic or an attempt to derail? It is entirely pertinent to the topic if your claim is that the Ten Commandments are from God.

The only derailment of this thread is you people not answering questions. We could've progressed beyond this 10 pages ago if you weren't being so disingenuous.

 

[DavidSon]

Not to distract from the thread but one point to make is that yes, the question of identifying with or interpreting Israelite culture is for African/Afroasiatic people first.

A brief history of the region over 5000 years starts with (not necessarily in this order) the Egyptians and Sumerians, which developed into groups named the Akkadians and Assyrians. Later kingdoms that branched out were Babylon or Neo-Assyrian, eventually labeled Persian. Comparing a chart of Semitic language we see along the way Aramean and Canaanite writing springing up. Canaanite is the mother language of Phoenician (the mighty "sea people"), Ammonite, Moabite, and who were called the people of Yehud (what we call Hebrew).

This entire trip up until the common era is a history of black (Afroasiatic) people. Not to deny that Arian, Scythian tribes began to mix with the natives of the area in the 1st millennia BC, but the customs and technology that civilization has grown upon is based on the striving of black people first. A thought is that once there's a more universal acknowledgment of the founders of civilization, the rush to identify with one specific historic tribe could wane as we celebrate the wide and diverse expressions of belief from the ancient world.

 

[LittleLady]

You said the Torah is to be followed in its entirety by your people. You also said that I'm punching above my weight class, that you know more about the Torah than I do. I'm not saying you don't, but I'm going to test you. I'm going to show you, which I initially wanted to show this little lady, that you probably don't even know the foundation of the Torah's law, ie. the Ten Commandments. Prove everyone here you know what the 10 Commandments are and maybe people would start taking you seriously that you would be able to commit.

Sorry, but I don't want to be tested by a heathen. The only ones I wouldn't mind testing me is God himself and my brothers and sisters. That is it. As for your next post, AND this post, all you have to do is read what the 613 commandments are. You don't need to ask us. You keep asking us because you have a sly goal in mind which is why we avoid you WHICH IS A VALID EXCUSE DUE TO YOUR INTENTIONS. You cannot act as if you're the innocent one being ignored when we're ignoring you for the right reasons. If you keep asking us that question, that just proves my point even more.

You heathens will never give up until you think you're in the right. "What are the 10 commandments? What are the 10 commandments?" GO READ! You're obviously capable of using big words, so go read some big words! It's not like you're a 1 year old unable to go look for the answer yourself, not to mention FREEMAN HIMSELF GAVE YOU THE ANSWER A FEW PAGES BACK. I'm not going to say it again.

 

[lightseeker]

Sorry, but I don't want to be tested by a heathen. The only ones I wouldn't mind testing me is God himself and my brothers and sisters. That is it. As for your next post, AND this post, all you have to do is read what the 613 commandments are. You don't need to ask us. You keep asking us because you have a sly goal in mind which is why we avoid you WHICH IS A VALID EXCUSE DUE TO YOUR INTENTIONS. You cannot act as if you're the innocent one being ignored when we're ignoring you for the right reasons. If you keep asking us that question, that just proves my point even more.

You heathens will never give up until you think you're in the right. "What are the 10 commandments? What are the 10 commandments?" GO READ! You're obviously capable of using big words, so go read some big words! It's not like you're a 1 year old unable to go look for the answer yourself. I'm not going to say it again.

What is a heathen?

 

[A Freeman]

You said the Torah is to be followed in its entirety by your people. You also said that I'm punching above my weight class, that you know more about the Torah than I do. I'm not saying you don't, but I'm going to test you. I'm going to show you, which I initially wanted to show this little lady, that you probably don't even know the foundation of the Torah's law, ie. the Ten Commandments. Prove everyone here you know what the 10 Commandments are and maybe people would start taking you seriously that you would be able to commit.

How could you possibly show anyone anything about something you know absolutely NOTHING about?

God gave us all of the necessary tools to create a perfect society within the first five books of the Bible, namely Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy.

Collectively, those books are referred to as the Torah in Hebrew which, in English, means The Law. While The Law contains what is commonly referred to as the 10 Commandments (Exod. 20:3-17, Deut. 5:7-21), which are the basic, universal principles of The Law, the whole of The National, Moral Law is often referred to as "the Commandments" because they are God's COMMANDS to us, given to us to protect us from evil and to set and keep us free (John 8:25 - John 8:34 KJV).

Deuteronomy 30:15-20
30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the "I AM" thy God, to walk in His Ways, and to keep His Commandments and His Statutes and His Judgments, that thou mayest LIVE and multiply: and the "I AM" thy God shall bless thee in the land where thou goest to possess it.
30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
30:18 I denounce unto you this day, that ye shall surely perish, [and that] ye shall not prolong [your] days upon the land, where thou passest over Jordan to go to possess it.
30:19 I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:
30:20 That thou mayest love the "I AM" thy God, [and] that thou mayest obey His voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto Him: for He [is] thy Life, and the length of thy days: that thou mayest dwell in the land which the "I AM" sware unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob/Israel, to give them.

IF we kept The Law, as we were COMMANDED to do for our own benefit, and which we all promised to do (Deut. 29:9-15), we would all be enjoying:

TRUE FREEDOM - under the perfect system of government, where there are no banksters or politicians and their made-up money and rules oppressing everyone else.

TRUE JUSTICE - with the perfect system of justice, where there are no attorneys and black-robed judges administering and enforcing satanic legislation, policies, and "codes", etc. (NONE of which are law) and where everyone is taught and knows The Law (God's Law, which prohibits man-made legislation upon pain of death - Deut. 4:2, 12:32, 17:11-13).

TRUE PEACE - where war is a capital offense.

TRUE PROSPERITY - where the perfect economic system ensures there is no crime or the poverty which causes crime.

THE TRUE SAFETY AND SECURITY that only God can provide.

And the perfect agricultural system, with no chemicals, GMOs, fluoridated water and other poisons, along with the perfect healthy diet, which eliminates all life-ending sickness and disease.

God sent all of His Prophets/Messengers with His Message of Truth (The Law), and finally His Firstborn Son. And we've beaten, tortured and murdered them for telling us the truth, and then wonder why the world is in the mess it's in today.

Christ quite obviously did NOT come to destroy The Law, as He quite clearly stated.

Matthew 5:17-20
5:17 Think NOT that I am come to destroy The Law, or the Prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill [fully preach The Law (The Torah) and fulfill the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah].
5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no way pass from The Law, till ALL be fulfilled.
5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least COMMANDments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in The Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in The Kingdom of heaven.
5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall EXCEED [the righteousness] of the lawyers and politicians, ye shall in no case enter into The Kingdom of heaven.

Anyone who claims otherwise, i.e. anyone claiming that we no longer have to keep The Law, is still listening to, obeying and working for Satan, knowingly or otherwise. And everyone who continues to listen to, obey and work for Satan will find themselves in The Fire on Judgment Day. There will be NO exceptions.

Sin = breaking The Law (1 John 3:4). The wages of sin/breaking The Law are DEATH (Ezek. 18:4, 20, Rom. 6:23). Logically, the only way to stop sinning is to remember and return to keeping The Law.

Malachi 4
4:1 For, behold, the Day cometh, that shall burn like an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts, that it shall leave of them neither root nor branch (nothing).
4:2 But unto you that fear My name shall the Sun of Righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
4:3 And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in The Day that I shall do [this], saith the "I AM" Lord of hosts.
4:4 Remember ye and return to The Law of Moses My servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the Statutes and Judgments.
4:5 Behold, I will send you EliJAH the Prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful Day of the "I AM" (Sura 43:61):
4:6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse (see verse 1 for the details of the curse).

It should therefore be self-evident that IF you actually knew ANYTHING about The Law, you would be keeping it (obeying God ONLY - Acts 5:29) as if your REAL, eternal Life depended upon it, which of course it does. It's Satan (the Opposer) who wants people to disobey God and His Perfect Law of Liberty, so if you choose of your own free-will to continue to listen to and obey him, he will continue to lead you into The Fire.

Therefore, for your own sake and for the sake of others, please stop listening to and obeying Satan, who has conned you into thinking you are clever and know something, when (unsurprisingly) the exact opposite is true.

Peace be upon you.

 

[Artful Revealer]

Sorry, but I don't want to be tested by a heathen. The only ones I wouldn't mind testing me is God himself and my brothers and sisters. That is it. As for your next post, AND this post, all you have to do is read what the 613 commandments are. You don't need to ask us. You keep asking us because you have a sly goal in mind which is why we avoid you WHICH IS A VALID EXCUSE DUE TO YOUR INTENTIONS. You cannot act as if you're the innocent one being ignored when we're ignoring you for the right reasons. If you keep asking us that question, that just proves my point even more.

You heathens will never give up until you think you're in the right. "What are the 10 commandments? What are the 10 commandments?" GO READ! You're obviously capable of using big words, so go read some big words! It's not like you're a 1 year old unable to go look for the answer yourself, not to mention FREEMAN HIMSELF GAVE YOU THE ANSWER A FEW PAGES BACK. I'm not going to say it again.

So I should read Exodus 20?