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I’m not sure that I would. I probably wouldn’t be keen on having my daughter be part of an advert, at all.
You’re right, it may be weird but it isn’t sexual. That’s the point I’m trying to make. The ad features other kids doing it together, as well. The ad isn’t produced by Exo or SM but the company who makes Pepero. It has been approved for broadcast by Korean television, do they can’t have thought it inappropriate.
Maybe this isn’t thought of as strange in South Korea. Maybe it just seems strange to us because we live in a different culture.
Look at the way the guys are looking at the little girl. There isn’t anything inappropriate about it. They clearly think she’s cute and adorable. You can see that Sehun is clearly staying as far back from her as possible.
Pepero is a really popular snack in South Korea. They even celebrate “Pepero Day” on 11th November, every year. Everyone exchanges Pepero on that day as a sign of affection. Apparently it’s a really big thing. Everyone takes part in the Pepero game - it’s really no big deal there.
Again, the problem is us misunderstanding it.
I can understand your viewpoint
 
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Why is it so highly unlikely though?
At the end of the day, the theories you speculate about are just that - theories.
You know my opinion on this and I know it’s not a popular one. I honestly do believe that most Kpop stars are just decent people trying to make a living, doing something they love.
Yes, there are good and bad people in the industry. However, we all have the potential for good and evil inside of us.
Many people criticise me and maybe I am just naive. I refuse to believe that a whole industry is corrupt. I refuse to believe that everyone involved in it is corrupt. To believe that, takes away individual choice and accountability. There are undoubtedly people within the industry who are corrupt. There are individuals everywhere who are capable of evil.

I read some of the stuff here though - some of the really extreme accusations people make - and I can’t help wonder what leads them to think in such extreme ways. I also can’t help worry that there may be vulnerable people here, who are negatively affected by some of those thoughts.
I can’t help thinking that to view the whole of the Kpop industry as evil and immoral, isn’t actually doing more harm to yourself, than the music itself.
There are some very extreme things written on some of the threads. It can’t be healthy for the people who write them to be so obsessed with hating these stars so much. It really is just as much an obsession, as that of those who love them.
I try to give people the benefit of the doubt. I’m a mother of daughters the same age as some of these stars. I see them on live streams etc, when my daughter is watching them and I am
surprised at just how ordinary, most of them are. They talk about the same stupid things my daughters and their friends talk about.
I find it hard to see this endemic evil that do many think they possess.
I know, I know...their purpose is to trick me...but is it, really?
Hi Hon 33.
Unfortunately we cant go around in circles and say the same things over and over I am sure u understand. We know your position on this. I respect the fact that u dont see what others see and that's your right to have your own opinions. However the FACTS of the matter is that the entertainment industry worldwide is a SATANIC run industry. This isn't speculation this is a fact.

If u refuse to know the truth about the way The world works then again u are entitled to that.

The NWO order is a real order of the Satanic Illuminati that aims to direct the world towards a certain goal. This is the world from which the anti christ will arise.

Nobody here can make you go and study the subjects needed to be able to see what we are saying here and again that is ur choice.
Hope u understand
 

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Hi Hon 33.
Unfortunately we cant go around in circles and say the same things over and over I am sure u understand. We know your position on this. I respect the fact that u dont see what others see and that's your right to have your own opinions. However the FACTS of the matter is that the entertainment industry worldwide is a SATANIC run industry. This isn't speculation this is a fact.

If u refuse to know the truth about the way The world works then again u are entitled to that.

The NWO order is a real order of the Satanic Illuminati that aims to direct the world towards a certain goal. This is the world from which the anti christ will arise.

Nobody here can make you go and study the subjects needed to be able to see what we are saying here and again that is ur choice.
Hope u understand
I absolutely understand. You are entitled to your viewpoint.
It seems increasingly though that there are people posting here who aren’t 100% convinced...and that’s okay. Much of the stuff here is based on speculation and I think It’s useful for people to keep that in mind.
I don’t disagree with you that an anti-Christ will arise out of evil. I just don’t think that there is one overarching organisation, responsible for controlling things and moving us towards a central goal.
I don’t believe that is how it works. My faith teaches me that we are all responsible and accountable for our own actions. We are all known as scripture tells us, with the law written on our hearts and we all make good and bad choices. I believe if you have a personal relationship with God, that desire to live in a way which respects and upholds Gods law, will grow. If you have that living, personal relationship with God, you won’t be distracted by evil, because you will know inherently what God‘a will is. I don’t believe that any of us are inherently evil but the capacity for evil lies within us all.
I believe that evil can also masquerade as good. Therefore, I’m wary of any theory that thrives on fear, suspicion, speculation and rumour. That’s why I am wary of these theories.
Listen, you’ve been incredibly polite and respectful of me and I hugely appreciate it. I enjoy reading what you have to say.:)
 
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I absolutely understand. You are entitled to your viewpoint.
It seems increasingly though that there are people posting here who aren’t 100% convinced...and that’s okay. Much of the stuff here is based on speculation and I think It’s useful for people to keep that in mind.
I don’t disagree with you that an anti-Christ will arise out of evil. I just don’t think that there is one overarching organisation, responsible for controlling things and moving us towards a central goal.
I don’t believe that is how it works. My faith teaches me that we are all responsible and accountable for our own actions. We are all known as scripture tells us, with the law written on our hearts and we all make good and bad choices. I believe if you have a personal relationship with God, that desire to live in a way which respects and upholds Gods law, will grow. If you have that living, personal relationship with God, you won’t be distracted by evil, because you will know inherently what God‘a will is. I don’t believe that any of us are inherently evil but the capacity for evil lies within us all.
I believe that evil can also masquerade as good. Therefore, I’m wary of any theory that thrives on fear, suspicion, speculation and rumour. That’s why I am wary of these theories.
Listen, you’ve been incredibly polite and respectful of me and I hugely appreciate it. I enjoy reading what you have to say.:)
Again that is ur belief and not necessarily a fact. Beliefs dont have to be based on facts but is merely something someone takes to be true.
The fact that this organisation exists is not only factual but there are thousands if not millions of pieces of evidences to back this up.

Its difficult to comprehend at first for most people however the more study u do on this topic which encompasses many different subjects the clearer it becomes. I mean for years I used to not take it seriously even knowing what I knew. But its real

I think people on this thread are at times two minded as to whether BTS willingly or as victims take part in satanistic agendas.

Hillary clinton alone can show u that the satanic ritual abuse spoken about here is indeed facts and not just made up delusions.

To each their own and at the end of the day the truth will prevail
 
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I absolutely understand. You are entitled to your viewpoint.
It seems increasingly though that there are people posting here who aren’t 100% convinced...and that’s okay. Much of the stuff here is based on speculation and I think It’s useful for people to keep that in mind.
I don’t disagree with you that an anti-Christ will arise out of evil. I just don’t think that there is one overarching organisation, responsible for controlling things and moving us towards a central goal.
I don’t believe that is how it works. My faith teaches me that we are all responsible and accountable for our own actions. We are all known as scripture tells us, with the law written on our hearts and we all make good and bad choices. I believe if you have a personal relationship with God, that desire to live in a way which respects and upholds Gods law, will grow. If you have that living, personal relationship with God, you won’t be distracted by evil, because you will know inherently what God‘a will is. I don’t believe that any of us are inherently evil but the capacity for evil lies within us all.
I believe that evil can also masquerade as good. Therefore, I’m wary of any theory that thrives on fear, suspicion, speculation and rumour. That’s why I am wary of these theories.
Listen, you’ve been incredibly polite and respectful of me and I hugely appreciate it. I enjoy reading what you have to say.:)
Indeed that the true believers in God will not be touched by evil and that is ofcourse true because Gods protection is greater than anything on earth
 

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Something interesting, about the creator of the Taoist: Lao Tseu. But if of China, but inspires the Korean flag. On the symbol of the severed head:
'You have to' cut off the heads 'of all slaves to make them' find the way '.'

Also visible in Tintin, which refers to alchemy:
I did not think, but Jin is associated with the color yellow, representative of the sun. But the stomach is burnt in Fire. Outside the chakra of the stomach is linked to the yellow color, and therefore linked to food.

Correction, the sign of Aries, is related to the chakra.
But also many problems, show in the clips:
Lien Français: https://chakras-yoga.com/blogs/infos/comment-debloquer-le-chakra-du-plexus-solaire
Résumer: http://taoetspiritualite.fr/presentation-des-7-chakras:
Chakra du Plexus solaire « Manipura »

Emplacement
: au dessus du nombril

Élément : Feu

Glandes associées : Pancréas

Organes associés : Pancréas, foie, estomac, rate, vésicule biliaire, système nerveux, bas du dos, muscles.

Mots associés : pouvoir personnel, identité sociale, influence, autorité, sang-froid, énergie, paix, l’éclat, joie, harmonie intérieure, vitalité, force intérieure

Verbe : je peux

Il exprime les énergies de notre Moi et peut se manifester par la passion, l’agressivité ou la colère, mais fondamentalement il implique la mutation du Moi en un être de pouvoir et de persévérance qui est la faculté de transcender les conflits du chakra précédent et de gérer ses sentiments. II est avant tout le lieu où nous apprenons à mettre en œuvre notre volonté, à nous imposer contre le monde extérieur mais aussi nos démons intérieurs car le feu peut en même temps donner la lumière.

Maladies liées : Gastralgies, problèmes gastriques, dorsalgies, brûlures œsophagiennes, douleurs du haut-ventre, problèmes digestifs, maladies nerveuses, diabète, surpoids, maigreur, nausées, estomac noué, problèmes de nutrition.

Quand doit-il être harmonisé :

  • On ne peut donner libre court à ses sentiments
  • Il semble difficile de définir et d’atteindre nos buts
  • On n’arrive pas à s’imposer
  • On a du mal à accepter les critiques
  • On n’arrive pas à maitriser nos sentiments et on regrette nos actes
  • En cas d’insomnies ou de cauchemars
  • On est peureux
  • Quand on est jaloux et agressif. En savoir plus
"Manipura" Solar Plexus Chakra

Location:
above the navel

Element: Fire

Associated glands: Pancreas

Associated organs: Pancreas, liver, stomach, spleen, gallbladder, nervous system, lower back, muscles.

Associated words: personal power, social identity, influence, authority, composure, energy, peace, radiance, joy, inner harmony, vitality, inner strength

Verb: I can

It expresses the energies of our Self and can manifest itself through passion, aggression or anger, but basically it involves the mutation of the Self into a being of power and perseverance which is the ability to transcend the conflicts of the previous chakra and to manage his feelings. It is above all the place where we learn to implement our will, to impose ourselves against the outside world but also our inner demons because fire can at the same time give light.

Related diseases: Gastralgia, gastric problems, back pain, esophageal burns, upper abdominal pain, digestive problems, nervous diseases, diabetes, overweight, leanness, nausea, knotted stomach, nutrition problems.

When should it be harmonized:

  • You can't give free rein to your feelings
  • It seems difficult to define and reach our goals
  • We can't impose ourselves
  • It's hard to accept criticism
  • We can't control our feelings and we regret our actions
  • In case of insomnia or nightmares
  • We are fearful
  • When you're jealous and aggressive. Find out more
 
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Again that is ur belief and not necessarily a fact. Beliefs dont have to be based on facts but is merely something someone takes to be true.
The fact that this organisation exists is not only factual but there are thousands if not millions of pieces of evidences to back this up.

Its difficult to comprehend at first for most people however the more study u do on this topic which encompasses many different subjects the clearer it becomes. I mean for years I used to not take it seriously even knowing what I knew. But its real

I think people on this thread are at times two minded as to whether BTS willingly or as victims take part in satanistic agendas.

Hillary clinton alone can show u that the satanic ritual abuse spoken about here is indeed facts and not just made up delusions.

To each their own and at the end of the day the truth will prevail
The truth will prevail. That is the one thing all of us can be sure of. I think many of us will be surprised by the truth when it does come out and I actually include myself in that.
I don’t disagree with you that there are many things which happen - particularly in governments - which are hidden from us. Sometimes there are justified reasons for that. Sometimes there are not.
I think I mentioned before that I live in Northern Ireland. I know when I was growing up that when things happened there, there was often talking about secret talks between government and terrorists or intelligence gathering etc. I always believed then that governments etc wouldn’t do wrong things. However, as documents were released under the 30 year rule, it became clear that sometimes Governments etc did do things that were difficult to understand. I was naive to think otherwise. Sometimes the things they did were for the greater good - but not always.

I watched a documentary maybe a year or two ago now, about the Neubauer experiment, where identical twins and triplets were separated at birth and sent to very different homes purely in a study of the nature/nurture debate. I know that past governments - particularly in the US - have done grossly unethical things in the name of science or research.
I choose not to believe that there is an overall organisation in control of this. Believing in such a thing, for me, is an excuse to take away individual responsibility and accountability. Blaming the chaos in this world on the illuminati, removes the idea that each one of us has the capacity for wrongdoing within our own control.
You’re absolutely right about evil, we are all potentially capable of it.
 

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I have a question for you guys...Are some of you still obsessed with BT$? Are they on your mind alot?
This thread can pretty much become another way of staying connected to them.
I saw some people post about how they could be innocent. I want to remind you that even if they are and they were born and tortured into this, it's not a reason for you to support them. At the end of the day what they're doing is bad for you. You feeling sorry for them and supporting them is not doing them any good nor is it stopping them. Once you know it's evil and they're part of a bigger problem you should try and take a step back. What good is it if you're still craving their content? That's what they want... I really hope you're able to live freely without them on your mind. BT$ are puppets under control, and their job is to manipulate you just like every other celebrity.
 

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I have a question for you guys...Are some of you still obsessed with BT$? Are they on your mind alot?
This thread can pretty much become another way of staying connected to them.
I saw some people post about how they could be innocent. I want to remind you that even if they are and they were born and tortured into this, it's not a reason for you to support them. At the end of the day what they're doing is bad for you. You feeling sorry for them and supporting them is not doing them any good nor is it stopping them. Once you know it's evil and they're part of a bigger problem you should try and take a step back. What good is it if you're still craving their content? That's what they want... I really hope you're able to live freely without them on your mind. BT$ are puppets under control, and their job is to manipulate you just like every other celebrity.
Personally, I have never been a fan, I have even completely forgotten the KPop several times, to the point that rediscovering the KPop. I mostly do research on KPop, for myself, I hate it, when something goes wrong with XD. Puppets yes, but by choice? It can be yes or no, don't fix the problem, okay, but don't fix it, and it's also in a sense being an accomplice.
 

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Soon an eclipse, the next one in December, but given what happens to Africa in Asia, and since it appears in Come Back Home, and its suggested route in Idole but also seen the reference to Africa, in Idole:
 

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Isn't their predatory behaviour possibly a reflection of behaviour done to them. Their management have probably abused and preyed on them and with all the rituals/dark stuff that you discuss happening in the background, it's not surprising that they too are then becoming more darker people. Not dark as a new theme to promote their comeback but actually becoming twisted.

Also what @sadtruth said,
What good is it if you're still craving their content? That's what they want... I really hope you're able to live freely without them on your mind. BT$ are puppets under control, and their job is to manipulate you just like every other celebrity.
 

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I was obsessed with them almost for two years, loved them so much, respected them, but month ago my "bts world" was ruined and I felt like I was betrayed. I do not forgive betrayal, my heart literally turns cold when I am betrayed, but I still needed time to recover. I don't think about them all the time anymore, maybe once a day when I see them in my IG, but when I see cute videos with them, like when Taehyung is sleeping in bv 4 I feel like I'm going to give up and start asking questions again about whether it's all true. so this thread is for me like a medicine that I take when I get stupid again and feel hopeful
I understand what you mean. The threads have helped me get over my addiction with kpop too. It also helped that there wasn't an Ex0 thread because if there was I think I would have been stuck in their cycle longer, and probably more involved with their content. If someone was constantly bringing them up I'd automatically be drawn to it, and that's what it's like for those of you who like BT$.
If someone is still struggling maybe it will benefit them from taking a step back from this thread. Being so involved in BT$ content is not helpful because they're still taking space in your mind.

Now you know the boys aren't what they show you, and them acting cute is part of the game, when you see something on IG you can judge it by what you learnt on here and move on. The best way is to have strength in yourself to do it. They're a small part of a bigger evil, if you feel like they're innocent you can learn more about the people who control them. That will help you distance yourself from people who are associated with them. I'm just telling you what helped me, hopefully it can help you or someone else because this thread can also be a way of feeding the obsession. We're all here to help each other so that's my advice for you guys.
 
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I understand what you mean. The threads have helped me get over my addiction with kpop too. It also helped that there wasn't an Ex0 thread because if there was I think I would have been stuck in their cycle longer, and probably more involved with their content. If someone was constantly bringing them up I'd automatically be drawn to it, and that's what it's like for those of you who like BT$.
If someone is still struggling maybe it will benefit them from taking a step back from this thread. Being so involved in BT$ content is not helpful because they're still taking space in your mind.

Now you know the boys aren't what they show you, and them acting cute is part of the game, when you see something on IG you can judge it by what you learnt on here and move on. The best way is to have strength in yourself to do it. They're a small part of a bigger evil, if you feel like they're innocent you can learn more about the people who control them. That will help you distance yourself from people who are associated with them. I'm just telling you what helped me, hopefully it can help you or someone else because this thread can also be a way of feeding the obsession. We're all here to help each other so that's my advice for you guys.
Sooo true. I find this thread interesting but to be totally honest outside of this thread BTS bore the shit out of me. Like stay gold popped up on my youtube and I listened for like 30 seconds and I was like pffftt and watched something else. Even at times when I start to watch a crack video, 2 minutes in I just get so bored.

But I was thinking why do I keep checking this thread. I think its because im a notification ho. Like if something tends to have notifications I just check it.
 
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I understand what you mean. The threads have helped me get over my addiction with kpop too. It also helped that there wasn't an Ex0 thread because if there was I think I would have been stuck in their cycle longer, and probably more involved with their content. If someone was constantly bringing them up I'd automatically be drawn to it, and that's what it's like for those of you who like BT$.
If someone is still struggling maybe it will benefit them from taking a step back from this thread. Being so involved in BT$ content is not helpful because they're still taking space in your mind.

Now you know the boys aren't what they show you, and them acting cute is part of the game, when you see something on IG you can judge it by what you learnt on here and move on. The best way is to have strength in yourself to do it. They're a small part of a bigger evil, if you feel like they're innocent you can learn more about the people who control them. That will help you distance yourself from people who are associated with them. I'm just telling you what helped me, hopefully it can help you or someone else because this thread can also be a way of feeding the obsession. We're all here to help each other so that's my advice for you guys.
I feel like that makes me a semi slave to technology! So so so bad
 

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I was obsessed with them almost for two years, loved them so much, respected them, but month ago my "bts world" was ruined and I felt like I was betrayed. I do not forgive betrayal, my heart literally turns cold when I am betrayed, but I still needed time to recover. I don't think about them all the time anymore, maybe once a day when I see them in my IG, but when I see cute videos with them, like when Taehyung is sleeping in bv 4 I feel like I'm going to give up and start asking questions again about whether it's all true. so this thread is for me like a medicine that I take when I get stupid again and feel hopeful
I feel the same way too..
 
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I understand what you mean. The threads have helped me get over my addiction with kpop too. It also helped that there wasn't an Ex0 thread because if there was I think I would have been stuck in their cycle longer, and probably more involved with their content. If someone was constantly bringing them up I'd automatically be drawn to it, and that's what it's like for those of you who like BT$.
If someone is still struggling maybe it will benefit them from taking a step back from this thread. Being so involved in BT$ content is not helpful because they're still taking space in your mind.

Now you know the boys aren't what they show you, and them acting cute is part of the game, when you see something on IG you can judge it by what you learnt on here and move on. The best way is to have strength in yourself to do it. They're a small part of a bigger evil, if you feel like they're innocent you can learn more about the people who control them. That will help you distance yourself from people who are associated with them. I'm just telling you what helped me, hopefully it can help you or someone else because this thread can also be a way of feeding the obsession. We're all here to help each other so that's my advice for you guys.
Iv even read the bts politics group maybe twice or thrice but the information just bores me to tears because Im just not interested or invested any more, and the energy In that thread in my view is bad.To be honest I think notifications for some ppl is like an addiction
 
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