CHAZ

[Lisa]

interesting to see you care about r*pe at a party. I did mention it already by not mentioning it. I said the police would take people to the hospital and arrest people with drugs. You know how many people go to jail for r*pe on a regular day right?

you do, you’re just trying to capitalize on something like this when it’s convenient. Like I said, you haven’t been to a lot of parties. It seems like you have been to a lot of beauty shops where you have spent a lot of time gossiping about people because it was fun and that is again why your post is more like a gossip column.

now, disclaimer, I’m writing this quickly as there are nuances that I’m not addressing that I don’t have time for.

but in general, it doesn’t matter In terms of discussing this with you further. Basically, we can conclude our discussion by finding out whether you have ever been to Seattle or whether you are in Seattle now. If you haven’t and you are not in Seattle right now, then I really don’t care what you have to say. I’m not interested in your gossip about a variety of things you have no personal experience with and no ability to understand.

I have been to Seattle...enjoyed being there despite some of the vibe there..enjoyed Island hopping on the ferries.

All I mentioned was that the police chief, the black police chief said that there were 911 calls about r*pe and violence in chaz to which you just want to stick to it’s a party. You might as well just say that that black, lady police chief is a liar. Though why you’d put your knee in her neck like that...? Now that might be a little inflammatory..but maybe not..her black life does matter doesn’t it?

 

[rainerann]

I have been to Seattle...enjoyed being there despite some of the vibe there..enjoyed Island hopping on the ferries.

All I mentioned was that the police chief, the black police chief said that there were 911 calls about r*pe and violence in chaz to which you just want to stick to it’s a party. You might as well just say that that black, lady police chief is a liar. Though why you’d put your knee in her neck like that...? Now that might be a little inflammatory..but maybe not..her black life does matter doesn’t it?

I think you need to reread my first post that you responded to. Like I said, there is some overlap in this community that is shared between the protestors and the police. Hence, the fact that there is a woman who is black (which seems redundant to say after the many times you have pointed this out already) who is acting as police chief.

So there is evidence of significant cultural change in a community that seems to be elevating the objective of cultural change, probably because they see cultural change as a good thing to try to achieve since having a police chief who is black and a woman has proven to be a good thing.

I also already said the perception that this autonomous zone is creating more change is also exaggerated in some ways too, which is why I compared it to a party, and any change that is taking place is probably because there are many things that are shared in the center of this community that are getting lost in polarized discussions that you are perpetuating.

it is also really offensive to see you say black woman the way you did so many times. I support both sides of the black community to a certain extent when it comes to things like this because I realize they are not a monolithic unit. I’m sure this woman has a great deal of integrity and is doing the best she can with what she knows about how to handle the unknowns of this situation. I just think people like yourself are the problem and most of your comments are more like gossip in an attempt to stir the pot.

there is actually a proverb about this. “Without wood a fire goes out; without a gossip a quarrel dies down.” Proverbs 26:20.

this is an important verse in my life when it comes to media. A lot of the media is gossip we would all be better off without. The right is just as guilty of this as the left can be. Something to think about.

 

[vancityeagle]

This whole thing is a psy op IMO.

These guys are being allowed to set up their anarchist zone, so that Fox News and the right wing propaganda network can go to town scaring the shit out of their followers.

Suddenly guys carrying assault rifles is a scary thing when it's in CHAZ, to the very same people who always scream "2nd ammendment" LOL.

They keep wanting to create this idea of "radical leftists" funded by George Soros who want to "burn America down"

They are trying so hard to create these "far left" boogeymen which just do not exist.

These are just the needed optics to fuel these type of narratives, and bring us further down the road of a civil war type conflict.

These anarchists are actually being used as dupes to serve a right wing agenda.

This stuff will not play well with many people, and it will only help to boost Trumps base.

LAW AND ORDER is the gameplan.

 

[Lyfe]

There is a difference between second amendment rights and then walking around a city street with an ar15 enforcing a set of rules(created by mob rule) that isnt even law upon people.

 

[vancityeagle]

There is a difference between second amendment rights and then walking around a city street with an ar15 enforcing a set of rules(created by mob rule) that isnt even law upon people.

You are just being hypocritical.

Either you can walk around with guns or you can't.

You guys are just a bunch of hypocrites.

 

[Lyfe]

You are just being hypocritical.

Either you can walk around with guns or you can't.

You guys are just a bunch of hypocrites.

Patrolling the streets with an ar15 and enforcing rules upon others that arent even real laws is quite a leap from practicing secondment amendment rights.

 

[Corvus Metus]

This whole thing is a psy op IMO.

These guys are being allowed to set up their anarchist zone, so that Fox News and the right wing propaganda network can go to town scaring the shit out of their followers.

Suddenly guys carrying assault rifles is a scary thing when it's in CHAZ, to the very same people who always scream "2nd ammendment" LOL.

They keep wanting to create this idea of "radical leftists" funded by George Soros who want to "burn America down"

They are trying so hard to create these "far left" boogeymen which just do not exist.

These are just the needed optics to fuel these type of narratives, and bring us further down the road of a civil war type conflict.

These anarchists are actually being used as dupes to serve a right wing agenda.

This stuff will not play well with many people, and it will only help to boost Trumps base.

LAW AND ORDER is the gameplan.

This is what I'm concerned about.

As an anarchist, I love the idea of CHAZ. I like the idea of people basically telling the state to fuck off and creating their own communities outside the system. But I also know how the system works and it's going to end up demonizing this in the long run. Even the "left-wing media" is capitalist so it's going to eventually crush this.

 

[Lyfe]

Chaz doesnt even appear to have any real substantial leadership representing peace and justice for all and if it did they would have to first deal with the degenerate and corrupt elements within which I doubt they will be able to. They dont even really believe in freedom of speech as certain individuals are being beat up and told to keep quiet making it clear one isnt able to express their views so long as it contradicts Chaz. They also exercise deportations of certain groups. They are practicing hypocrisy and operate more along the lines of fascists than a free republic.

Look at some of the videos post here. All this man did was preach the gospel and he was dragged out and deported...

They scream and decry police brutality and then they brutalize and drag someone out...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1271975034454605825

 

[Lyfe]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1272687765772107778

Those firearms dont look photo shopped to me.

 

[Occultfartmachine]

I think you need to reread my first post that you responded to. Like I said, there is some overlap in this community that is shared between the protestors and the police. Hence, the fact that there is a woman who is black (which seems redundant to say after the many times you have pointed this out already) who is acting as police chief.

So there is evidence of significant cultural change in a community that seems to be elevating the objective of cultural change, probably because they see cultural change as a good thing to try to achieve since having a police chief who is black and a woman has proven to be a good thing.

I also already said the perception that this autonomous zone is creating more change is also exaggerated in some ways too, which is why I compared it to a party, and any change that is taking place is probably because there are many things that are shared in the center of this community that are getting lost in polarized discussions that you are perpetuating.

it is also really offensive to see you say black woman the way you did so many times. I support both sides of the black community to a certain extent when it comes to things like this because I realize they are not a monolithic unit. I’m sure this woman has a great deal of integrity and is doing the best she can with what she knows about how to handle the unknowns of this situation. I just think people like yourself are the problem and most of your comments are more like gossip in an attempt to stir the pot.

there is actually a proverb about this. “Without wood a fire goes out; without a gossip a quarrel dies down.” Proverbs 26:20.

this is an important verse in my life when it comes to media. A lot of the media is gossip we would all be better off without. The right is just as guilty of this as the left can be. Something to think about.

Why on earth do you give a shit about it then? It's playbook ordo ab chao divide & conquer.

 

[seekinheart]

This whole thing is a psy op IMO.

These guys are being allowed to set up their anarchist zone, so that Fox News and the right wing propaganda network can go to town scaring the shit out of their followers.

Suddenly guys carrying assault rifles is a scary thing when it's in CHAZ, to the very same people who always scream "2nd ammendment" LOL.

They keep wanting to create this idea of "radical leftists" funded by George Soros who want to "burn America down"

They are trying so hard to create these "far left" boogeymen which just do not exist.

These are just the needed optics to fuel these type of narratives, and bring us further down the road of a civil war type conflict.

These anarchists are actually being used as dupes to serve a right wing agenda.

This stuff will not play well with many people, and it will only help to boost Trumps base.

LAW AND ORDER is the gameplan.

is this was a psy op at this point trump looks like abit of an idiot letting CHAZ go on, he is well within his right to bulldozer over them, its not a psy op at all, Trump is just given the states there rights and they are failing miserably.

 

[Artful Revealer]

 

[Artful Revealer]

You are just being hypocritical.

Either you can walk around with guns or you can't.

You guys are just a bunch of hypocrites.

The right to bear arms doesn't give you the right to replace the police. Or next time when it's the 2nd Amendment folk seceding in your neighbourhood, maybe you too then should suck it up and tolerate it.

 

[justjess]

The right to bear arms doesn't give you the right to replace the police. Or next time when it's the 2nd Amendment folk seceding in your neighbourhood, maybe you too then should suck it up and tolerate it.

The right to arrest doesn’t give you the right to murder. Funny how that works

 

[seekinheart]

Chaz doesnt even appear to have any real substantial leadership representing peace and justice for all and if it did they would have to first deal with the degenerate and corrupt elements within which I doubt they will be able to. They dont even really believe in freedom of speech as certain individuals are being beat up and told to keep quiet making it clear one isnt able to express their views so long as it contradicts Chaz. They also exercise deportations of certain groups. They are practicing hypocrisy and operate more along the lines of fascists than a free republic.

Look at some of the videos post here. All this man did was preach the gospel and he was dragged out and deported...

They scream and decry police brutality and then they brutalize and drag someone out...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1271975034454605825

this is exactly what the NWO will look like to me, people desperately wanting approval from this "cool new society" anyone who speaks out "we dont want anything to do with that" Nobody speaking up for injustices, and people like justjess and vancityeagle supporting the evil coz its fits there ideology, fools.

 

[Artful Revealer]

The right to arrest doesn’t give you the right to murder. Funny how that works

Assuming you're talking about the "murderer" of Floyd, he's arrested and facing charges, right? So the Chaz folk should be arrested and charged too then, right?

 

[seekinheart]

I mean theyve been indoctrinating these millenials for a WHILE now. So i get it, but its saying something about how PATHETIC some people are.

When even black people are like ok, im sick of this bullshit narrative, and uve got white people going but NO! WE ARE GUILTY, TRUMPS A FASCIST! PLEASE ABSCOND ME OF MY WhiTE PrIveLEge

 

[vancityeagle]

This is what I'm concerned about.

As an anarchist, I love the idea of CHAZ. I like the idea of people basically telling the state to fuck off and creating their own communities outside the system. But I also know how the system works and it's going to end up demonizing this in the long run. Even the "left-wing media" is capitalist so it's going to eventually crush this.

It's a setup to make anarchists look crazy IMO.

this is all about scaring people, even though there isn't really anything scary about CHAZ but certain people will always react a certain way when the Tucker Carlson's of this world are telling them what to think.

 

[seekinheart]

It's a setup to make anarchists look crazy IMO.

this is all about scaring people, even though there isn't really anything scary about CHAZ but certain people will always react a certain way when the Tucker Carlson's of this world are telling them what to think.

hahhahahahah lolwut?

Anarchists are not crazy hahahahha

the definition of anarchy is disorder.... u know like MENTAL DISORDER.

Disorderly is by definition NOT GOOD. U guys are retarded.

 

[vancityeagle]

Chaz doesnt even appear to have any real substantial leadership representing peace and justice for all and if it did they would have to first deal with the degenerate and corrupt elements within which I doubt they will be able to. They dont even really believe in freedom of speech as certain individuals are being beat up and told to keep quiet making it clear one isnt able to express their views so long as it contradicts Chaz. They also exercise deportations of certain groups. They are practicing hypocrisy and operate more along the lines of fascists than a free republic.

Look at some of the videos post here. All this man did was preach the gospel and he was dragged out and deported...

They scream and decry police brutality and then they brutalize and drag someone out...

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1271975034454605825

LOL do you really believe this phony spectacle that is being played out.

Again just far too perfect for the fascist narrative.

"Far leftists take Seattle and begin to persecute Chriatians"

Never heard that one before, how original.

Do we really know why that guy was being dragged out after an 8 second clip ?

A clip to form a narrative which was tweeted out by JACK POSOBIEC, who is an "ex" naval intelligence officer by the way.

Nothing to see when a narrative is being formed by a right wing zionist propagandist who was an intelligence operative.

You fall for their tricks far too easily, because you want so badly for this to be true.