Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence

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Given what I know about age gap relationships in the entertainment industry idk if Heechul is actually her handler, I feel really bad energy about his future. I feel like he is going to die soon, he is retreating pretty heavy right now. I wonder if that's why there is a notable rift between him and SUJU right now. I know his hiatus is technically because of his injuries from a previous car crash but something after his friends deaths has really freaked him out.... bad.
 

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Given what I know about age gap relationships in the entertainment industry idk if Heechul is actually her handler, I feel really bad energy about his future. I feel like he is going to die soon, he is retreating pretty heavy right now. I wonder if that's why there is a notable rift between him and SUJU right now. I know his hiatus is technically because of his injuries from a previous car crash but something after his friends deaths has really freaked him out.... bad.
Heechul is gay, open secret. This relationship is 100% fake, she is his beard.
 

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From a clinic website
"A person with DID has two or more different and distinct personalities, the person's usual (“core”) personality and what are known as alternate personalities, or “alters.” The person may experience amnesia when an alter takes control over the person's behavior."

"Dissociative identity disorder is usually the outcome of chronic and severe childhood trauma, which can include physical and sexual abuse, extreme and recurrent terror, repeated medical trauma, and extreme neglect."

Edit: and of course all of those things listed above is what must happen before they do anything

The handlers have (sometimes are themselves) doctors, pscycologists, psychiatrists working for them too, so they are fully aware and have knowledge of what happens to the body and what they do to their victims.

This is kind of a paraphrase of what someone said in the bts discussion thread. Because of the programming and split personalities/alters formed inside them, handlers are able to switch them and make specific alters do certain things (ritual, program, torture, etc) so once it is complete they switch them back to their normal selves so the idols/celebrities will not even remember doing/experiencing those deeds. Its like they experience amnesia, they will feel discomfort, pain, etc without even knowing why cuz they'll never remember what happened/what they did. So in a way i guess thats how they are able to "endure" through this.
You know what I don't understand, with western celebrities you can tell they've been through MK. We can list names of people who act strange, but idols seem pretty normal to me. I haven't seen anything that makes me think they're mind controlled. Like Exo's obsession was about their dark alter egos, but they didn't actually believe they were those alters. They act like themselves and talk about it like a normal concept. If you look at Nicki Minaj, Miley, Katy Perry, Kanye, Eminem, Lady GaGa etc they talk about being different people and you can see something is wrong. Is it better hidden in Kpop?
I'm starting to think symbols in the music videos aren't about the idols, they're used elsewhere for programming and trigger enforcers. Idols are already under such a tight rope they don't need to be under mind control. To me it looks like they're helping with the programming by being brainwashed to do so since childhood (not mk)
They push the agenda because they've been indoctrinated through their trainee days to be the perfect slave. Their trainee program doesn't actually stop. They still live their lives in tight control by the same people. Usually idols can leave kpop and move on with their life...It's a little harder for western celebs to do that, they're needed by the Elite since they've had so much money and time spent on them. Kpop use and abuse their idols then move on to the next.
 
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First of all, hi there! ^_^
Well, I personally think that something with him is totally messed up. And the fact that he allegedly is Catholic is just a cover, cuz I can't believe that true Catholic would mock God and Jesus like that for example
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I have a theory which might not be true of course
As soon as Leee Suman got into r0thshilds' good grace, he brought satanic sybolism into kp0p. And if I'm not mistaken, around that time Shy-knee debuted. TM had to be his favourite since the beginning. And the fact that TM is still so active, through 3 generations of kp0p, is quite telling. He really might be sooman's chosen one. But the most importantly he has to be deeply steeped in it all. And his friendly presence is just a mask. People, by appearing to be nice, earn the sympathy of others. I read once that it's similar with rm from bt5, although as soon as I saw him for the first time, he made me feel uneasy. Sadly, I can't bear looking at both of them. Truly, I can't see the honest good in their eyes
Taemin is still so active because he is an incredibly talented individual, who was only 14 when he debuted. He is only 26 now? He is the same age as Taeil from NCT and only a few years older than others like Johnny, Taeyong, Yuta and Ten etc. He hasn’t even done his military service yet!
He has been focussing on a solo career for a long time because SM knew that his group members were going to be away at the Military and he would be on his own. I would imagine that’s why he was involved with SuperM, as well. He has spoken at length about how much he misses them and how lonely he is without them.
It was widely anticipated that Taemin would take on the role of leader on SuperM but he was very open about not wanting the role and suggested Baekhyun, instead.
This kind of stuff that you post really bothers me. Taemin has clearly been deeply affected by the things like the loss of Jonghyun - they all were. You make these spurious assumptions about them without any evidence or foundation. You absolutely don’t care about the fact you are speculating about someone’s life!
 
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Taemin is still so active because he is an incredibly talented individual, who was only 14 when he debuted. He is only 26 now? He is the same age as Taeil from NCT and only a few years older than others like Johnny, Taeyong, Yuta and Ten etc. He hasn’t even done his military service yet!
He has been focussing on a solo career for a long time because SM knew that his group members were going to be away at the Military and he would be on his own. I would imagine that’s why he was involved with SuperM, as well. He has spoken at length about how much he misses them and how lonely he is without them.
It was widely anticipated that Taemin would take on the role of leader on SuperM but he was very open about not wanting the role and suggested Baekhyun, instead.
This kind of stuff that you post really bothers me. Taemin has clearly been deeply affected by the things like the loss of Jonghyun - they all were. You make these spurious assumptions about them without any evidence or foundation. You absolutely don’t care about the fact you are speculating about someone’s life!
This is my thing too. I know blood sacrifice happens but I don't thing jonghyun was necessarily one of them. Yeah, Taemin was really upset at the time and I see the point of speculation but that's kinda the whole point of the thread. One thing is for sure though the entertainment industry is FUCKED UP beyond belief and the idols do seem more genuine than western artists
 

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This is my thing too. I know blood sacrifice happens but I don't thing jonghyun was necessarily one of them. Yeah, Taemin was really upset at the time and I see the point of speculation but that's kinda the whole point of the thread. One thing is for sure though the entertainment industry is FUCKED UP beyond belief and the idols do seem more genuine than western artists
but then what do you think abt his death
 

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Taemin is still so active because he is an incredibly talented individual, who was only 14 when he debuted. He is only 26 now? He is the same age as Taeil from NCT and only a few years older than others like Johnny, Taeyong, Yuta and Ten etc. He hasn’t even done his military service yet!
He has been focussing on a solo career for a long time because SM knew that his group members were going to be away at the Military and he would be on his own. I would imagine that’s why he was involved with SuperM, as well. He has spoken at length about how much he misses them and how lonely he is without them.
It was widely anticipated that Taemin would take on the role of leader on SuperM but he was very open about not wanting the role and suggested Baekhyun, instead.
This kind of stuff that you post really bothers me. Taemin has clearly been deeply affected by the things like the loss of Jonghyun - they all were. You make these spurious assumptions about them without any evidence or foundation. You absolutely don’t care about the fact you are speculating about someone’s life!
I never said that he is not talented nor that he wasn’t affected by JH’s death. Before my statements I always try to emphasize that these are just my assumptions or theories and that they don’t have to be true. There was a person that was curious about this matter so I shared my point of view; no one has to agree with this

This thread is a place for theories, so everyone has a right to express their thoughts and opinions. When it comes to this topic, it’s difficult to find irrefutable evidence for everything that is happening there, because rather none of us here is a part of entertainment industry. All the information I have gathered is based on statements of people who possibly have encountered the idols’ and other communities connected with this topic

You might be right that it’s not okay to assume what he thinks and what he really does, because I don’t know him personally, so as you

As idols they are also artists which means that they have roles they have to play infront of cameras. Not everything they say is necessarily true and same as what they think etc., so everything must be taken with a grain of salt. And I think that’s the main point here. This thread was created to spread awareness of what is behind kp0p and to open eyes of those who can only see one side of it and don’t accept other option

In fact, I feel sorry for these idols, because they are highly corrupted by this sick industry, whether willfully or not
 
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I never said that he is not talented nor that he wasn’t affected by JH’s death. Before my statements I always try to emphasize that these are just my assumptions or theories and that they don’t have to be true. There was a person that was curious about this matter so I shared my point of view; no one has to agree with this

This thread is a place for theories, so everyone has a right to express their thoughts and opinions. When it comes to this topic, it’s difficult to find irrefutable evidence for everything that is happening there, because rather none of us here is a part of entertainment industry. All the information I have gathered is based on statements of people who possibly have encountered the idols’ and other communities connected with this topic

You might be right that it’s not okay to assume what he thinks and what he really does, because I don’t know him personally, so as you

As idols they are also artists which means that they have roles they have to play infront of cameras. Not everything they say is necessarily true and same as what they think etc., so everything must be taken with a grain of salt. And I think that’s the main point here. This thread was created to spread awareness of what is behind kp0p and to open eyes of those who can only see one side of it and don’t accept other option

In fact, I feel sorry for these idols, because they are highly corrupted by this sick industry, whether willfully or not
I feel sorry for them too but the industry is sick all around and I don't believe some things are just coincidences, I feel like there is a gray area in these things
 

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He was depressed no doubt in my mind at all. Not every death has a big meaning behind it. He was struggling really bad. Also, he always seemed to be the most normal SHINee member other than Onew/Jinki
there are many depressed people that who dont commit suicide but instead they are trying to heal thats why I dont think he would be killing himself cause if he was he wouldnt be going to the doctor he would kill himself without letting the others know he also wouldnt be perform with Kurt cobain"s suicide letter on jacket cause he knows no one would pay attention to it while he is alive but I dont deny that he had depression he surely had I cant forget how he cried in his last concert hugged all members so tightly then I realized that he was a pure soul and not an evil
 
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there are many depressed people that who dont commit suicide but instead they are trying to heal thats why I dont think he would be killing himself cause if he was he wouldnt be going to the doctor he would kill himself without letting the others know he also wouldnt be perform with Kurt cobain"s suicide letter on jacket cause he knows no one would pay attention to it while he is alive but I dont deny that he had depression he surely had I cant forget how he cried in his last concert hugged all members so tightly then I realized that he was a pure soul and not an evil
I really don’t want to come across as condescending but that is a very naive attitude.
No one thinking rationally wants to commit suicide. Jonghyun - as far as I understand it - had tried very hard to overcome his problems - but still continued to experience very bad depression. Depression is exhausting and he obviously reached a stage wherehe felt that he couldn’t go on any longer. All the doctors in the world cannot help, when someone reaches that stage.
People who commit suicide often plan it very thoroughly. The evidence would suggest that Jonghyun did too. He fought hard but he couldn’t go on struggling. He also lived in a country which had a very negative attitude to mental health problems. Suicide is a huge problem in South Korea. For someone who isn’t thinking clearly, suicide can seem like the only option - even if they have been seeking professional help.

Jonghyun committed suicide and it’s a horrible thing to accept, but would you really rather believe that someone sacrificed him? That’s really better than accepting he committed suicide? Is being mentally ill really so bad that you would rather believe someone conspired to kill him, than accept it’s true?

This thread is a place for theories, so everyone has a right to express their thoughts and opinions. When it comes to this topic, it’s difficult to find irrefutable evidence for everything that is happening there, because rather none of us here is a part of entertainment industry. All the information I have gathered is based on statements of people who possibly have encountered the idols’ and other communities connected with this topic

You might be right that it’s not okay to assume what he thinks and what he really does, because I don’t know him personally, so as you
Its all very well to post theories and speculate however, in doing so, you are speculating about someone’s actual life and reputation that you don’t even know to be true.
It’s hurtful and damaging to individuals. You might see them as idols who are part of a corrupt industry and deserve everything that’s said about them - even if it’s not true.
In reality though, it potentially harmful - to them, as well as you. It’s really not normal to speculate in the way people here do, about the things you do.
Talking about these people and seeing all kinds of evil where it doesn’t exist, is as bad as the things you accuse idols of.
Do you really have a moral “right to express your thoughts and opinions” about people when it’s not true and harmful? Personally, I don’t see that as a right.
 

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I really don’t want to come across as condescending but that is a very naive attitude.
No one thinking rationally wants to commit suicide. Jonghyun - as far as I understand it - had tried very hard to overcome his problems - but still continued to experience very bad depression. Depression is exhausting and he obviously reached a stage wherehe felt that he couldn’t go on any longer. All the doctors in the world cannot help, when someone reaches that stage.
People who commit suicide often plan it very thoroughly. The evidence would suggest that Jonghyun did too. He fought hard but he couldn’t go on struggling. He also lived in a country which had a very negative attitude to mental health problems. Suicide is a huge problem in South Korea. For someone who isn’t thinking clearly, suicide can seem like the only option - even if they have been seeking professional help.

Jonghyun committed suicide and it’s a horrible thing to accept, but would you really rather believe that someone sacrificed him? That’s really better than accepting he committed suicide? Is being mentally ill really so bad that you would rather believe someone conspired to kill him, than accept it’s true?


Its all very well to post theories and speculate however, in doing so, you are speculating about someone’s actual life and reputation that you don’t even know to be true.
It’s hurtful and damaging to individuals. You might see them as idols who are part of a corrupt industry and deserve everything that’s said about them - even if it’s not true.
In reality though, it potentially harmful - to them, as well as you. It’s really not normal to speculate in the way people here do, about the things you do.
Talking about these people and seeing all kinds of evil where it doesn’t exist, is as bad as the things you accuse idols of.
Do you really have a moral “right to express your thoughts and opinions” about people when it’s not true and harmful? Personally, I don’t see that as a right.
İt is my opinion I dont say this is 100% true
 

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I came across these two channel's on YouTube that try to expose Kpop.

He says some silly things sometimes but can be useful.

Some of hers are pretty good

Does anyone know of any others?
 

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I came across these two channel's on YouTube that try to expose Kpop.

He says some silly things sometimes but can be useful.

Some of hers are pretty good

Does anyone know of any others?
She makes videos too but she’s censored right now:/
 
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