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It’s clear that the war on drugs was designed to specifically target black communities. Whites use drugs at the same rates as blacks but enforcement is not equal. White rural America is drowning in meth and pills but it’s spread out and arrests are unlikely because they keep it under wraps because everyone knows everyone. I had a friend from a 1400 person town and they literally fired the police Chief when she started investigating city officials involved in bringing it in.

Let’s not forget to mention that gangs filled the void that was left after the FBI destruction of the black panther party. It’s a whole stew of reasons and just analyzing raw crime data in order to support your racist white nationalist talking points does no good.
You can't blame the police who chase people who are dealing with drugs for anything. Dealing with drugs is not a right.

Black people get charged more often than white people.
selective perception. If you say the accused blacks are not guilty and this is hundreds of thousands, you have to prove.
 

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You can't blame the police who chase people who are dealing with drugs for anything.


selective perception. If you say the accused blacks are not guilty and this is hundreds of thousands, you have to prove.
You can because as I said, small towns are drowning in drugs but when everyone knows everybody charges are never brought. It happens out in the open in small towns. I would be willing to bet that small town meth and opiate use is higher per capita than in major cities.

When you’re stuck in neighborhoods with a failing overcrowded school system and rampant poverty it only makes sense that you turn to dealing instead of working for minimum wage. You’re trying to imply that blacks are prone to crime and violence based off raw numbers while ignoring factors that make it so. They are literally targeted for policing.
 

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You can't blame the police who chase people who are dealing with drugs for anything. Dealing with drugs is not a right.


selective perception. If you say the accused blacks are not guilty and this is hundreds of thousands, you have to prove.
Can you blame the police when you hand them over a detailed database of all the neighborhood drug dealers with license plates, phone numbers, addresses, meet up spots and surveillance photos and they do NOTHING with the information? And why do you think that would happen?

also disparity in sentencing is a seperate issue from guilt/innocence
 

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You can't blame the police who chase people who are dealing with drugs for anything. Dealing with drugs is not a right.


selective perception. If you say the accused blacks are not guilty and this is hundreds of thousands, you have to prove.
I made no assertions to guilt. I said black people get charged more. As in they are more likely to have the courts tack on some extra charges.

One study I read stated black people serve 20% longer sentences than white people. Basically the only person with selective perception is you.
 
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while ignoring factors that make it so.
bad conditions don't alleviate crime. and it doesn't make the police wrong.

Can you blame the police when you hand them over a detailed database of all the neighborhood drug dealers with license plates, phone numbers, addresses, meet up spots and surveillance photos and they do NOTHING with the information?
I don't know how they use the information, but this is a crime that the police should follow.

you are trying to decriminalize the drugs. you say, free the people who are dealing with drugs. how many million people die from drugs every year? don't blacks kill blacks by selling drugs?
 
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I made no assertions to guilt. I said black people get charged more. As in they are more likely to have the courts tack on some extra charges.

One study I read stated black people serve 20% longer sentences than white people. Basically the only person with selective perception is you.
it is normal to accuse someone who is guilty. If the accused people are not guilty, this becomes a matter of controversy.
I don't think there's really that much controversy about the numbers. Even liberals admit 52% of the homicides are committed by blacks.

From Wiki:

Homicide[edit]
According to the US Department of Justice, African Americans accounted for 52.5% of all homicide offenders from 1980 to 2008, with Whites 45.3% and "Other" 2.2%. The offending rate for African Americans was almost eight times higher than Whites, and the victim rate six times higher. Most homicides were intraracial, with 84% of White victims killed by Whites and 93% of African American victims killed by African Americans.[60][61][62]

You probably have 36 and 52 inversed.
You cannot deny that blacks commit more crime than whites. if you commit more crimes, you become more suspect. and I am not racist when I present this objective data. it's just about getting rid of political correctness.

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There are also blacks that accept it.

she said "blacks must stop killing each other before they blame whites". a sentence like this. but I couldn't find that tweet.
 

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bad conditions don't alleviate crime. and it doesn't make the police wrong.



I don't know how they use the information, but this is a crime that the police should follow.

you are trying to decriminalize the drugs. you say, free the people who are dealing with drugs. how many million people die from drugs every year? don't blacks kill blacks by selling drugs?
What do you mean by “bad conditions don’t alleviate crime”? If you came from an area like that maybe you would understand. It’s sad you don’t have enough empathy to be able to try and see through their experience instead of taking the easy way out and believing that blacks are genetically wired for violence and crime. As I said whites commit all kinds of crimes they are just likelier to get away with it, and it’s not as concentrated so it’s less obvious.

Legalizing vice crimes would cause
violent crimes to drop over night.Its black markets that fuel all crime and not having to worry about going to prison over drugs would ease up murders and violence to stay out. If addicts can get a cheaper fix, they won’t resort to crime to get it.
 

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Hardline Law and Order and punitive measures are anti Christian


For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, "I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
“The King will reply, ‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.”
 
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What do you mean by “bad conditions don’t alleviate crime”? If you came from an area like that maybe you would understand. It’s sad you don’t have enough empathy to be able to try and see through their experience instead of taking the easy way out and believing that blacks are genetically wired for violence and crime. As I said whites commit all kinds of crimes they are just likelier to get away with it, and it’s not as concentrated so it’s less obvious.

Legalizing vice crimes would cause
violent crimes to drop over night.Its black markets that fuel all crime and not having to worry about going to prison over drugs would ease up murders and violence to stay out. If addicts can get a cheaper fix, they won’t resort to crime to get it.
You propose drugs to reduce violence. Unbelievable. I don't even answer that.
 

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You propose drugs to reduce violence. Unbelievable. I don't even answer that.
It’s the conditions the black markets around the drugs that causes crime, much more than the drugs themselves. The US spends more on drug enforcement than any country and still has the highest crime rates of any developed nation.

The 20’s was the most violent era in US history, you know why? Because of the black markets that prohibition created.
 

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it is normal to accuse someone who is guilty. If the accused people are not guilty, this becomes a matter of controversy.

You cannot deny that blacks commit more crime than whites. if you commit more crimes, you become more suspect. and I am not racist when I present this objective data. it's just about getting rid of political correctness.


There are also blacks that accept it.

she said "blacks must stop killing each other before they blame whites". a sentence like this. but I couldn't find that tweet.
Ya but it's not normal to give a black person 20% longer prison sentences. Of course, you can't explain that, because it's clearly racist.

Your other comment, while not directed at me gave me a good chuckle. By your logic there should be cops stationed outside wall street because of the concentration of crime. So clearly your deploying some fallacies.
 

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bad conditions don't alleviate crime. and it doesn't make the police wrong.



I don't know how they use the information, but this is a crime that the police should follow.

you are trying to decriminalize the drugs. you say, free the people who are dealing with drugs. how many million people die from drugs every year? don't blacks kill blacks by selling drugs?
Ahh.. but they did not. I handed NYPD a database and they buried it. Don’t attribute assumed opinions to me when you have no idea where I actually stand. I’m not a caricature.
 
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Ya but it's not normal to give a black person 20% longer prison sentences. Of course, you can't explain that, because it's clearly racist.
If what you are talking about is the news of washingtonpost, I did not read the article that the news was linked to. There is a very long pdf file. I have to read to answer.

Your other comment, while not directed at me gave me a good chuckle. By your logic there should be cops stationed outside wall street because of the concentration of crime. So clearly your deploying some fallacies.
I did not say that the fight against drugs was done correctly. it just has nothing to do with black racism, because they're dealt with drugs.
 

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If what you are talking about is the news of washingtonpost, I did not read the article that the news was linked to. There is a very long pdf file. I have to read to answer.


I did not say that the fight against drugs was done correctly. it just has nothing to do with black racism, because they're dealt with drugs.
Fair enough. There's a lot of data to go through. If you find an answer I'll be all ears.

In any case, wall street crimes are practically not enforced at all. And sure maybe that has to do with how the law views narcotics vs financial crimes. Either way, the idea that cops go where the crime's at is patently false.
 
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In any case, wall street crimes are practically not enforced at all. And sure maybe that has to do with how the law views narcotics vs financial crimes. Either way, the idea that cops go where the crime's at is patently false.
they don't judge the richest criminals, they follow the lower class. this is happening all over the world. but you still haven't said what it has to do with blacks. If blacks are more interested in drugs than whites, they are more followed. If you are saying that the police are ignoring the whites dealing with drugs and this is not selective perception, this needs to be proven. but in any way, (even if you're right) it is not unfair to judge people who are dealing with drugs. "Blacks should commit crimes as freely as whites" is an absurd argument. drugs are not innocent. it's a poison that kills people.
 
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Will you delete that post now that you know it’s a lie?
 
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