1) yes they most definately are standing up for that man. A man who was brutally assaulted on video for no reason whatsoever and you Apparantly have no problem with this
2) when you put on the badge you are the job, if you do not approve of these actions by fellow “bad apple” officers then you should be condemning them and helping to change the culture of the system, rather then going on strike and throwing a temper tantrum and protest of your own because officers caught on tape assaulting an elderly white men have been charged with assault.
Anyways, I figure you authoritarians out. We have already been living in a police state for quite some time. You were just given a pass and allowed to mantain the delusion we weren’t because some aspect about you - whether that be skin color or socioeconomic status - allowed you to be blind. Now these protests are threatening to expand the police state in a manner where you’ll actually have to deal with the same shit everyone else has already been dealing with, and instead of saying NOPE and pushing back against it, your pushing back against the people who are jeopardizing your cocoon. Very admirable.
Here, I'll appease the simple-minded's selective indignations. The cop shouldn't have pushed the elderly guy. That wasn't necessary. Chauvin should've lifted his knee when Floyd was no longer moving, possibly even sooner (assuming we're not going with the staged scenario). Police brutality exists and deserves attention.
There, now that's been settled, let's see if we can put the focus on the bigger picture.
1. Do you think BLM would stand up for that man if it wasn't for the current context? Because of some larger universal, moral principle?
It has nothing to do with the current divide between protestors and police? The only cop who'll get a pass is one that gets down on his knees and does nothing.
Do you think that if such a guy was knocked over by police in, let's say, an anti-lockdown protest, that BLM would stand up for that guy?
If so, do you think BLM would still stand up for that guy if the person knocking him over was not a police officer? Because I think police officers work on BLM and consorts like red flags on a bull. Would they stand up for that guy if he was assaulted by a black man?
Let's be honest. All these questions were rhetorical.
2. Are you so one-sided that you can't consider that the police officer who pushed the man knows he did something wrong, that he acted on frustration in the heat of the moment and instantly regretted it? That the cop was following orders to clear the square and that the old man wasn't listening? Is that option not even possible? Cops constantly act on instinct and impulse and since they're humans with emotions, they make mistakes. People looting stores and burning buildings, that's not an impulse, that's premeditated, but they deserve more leniency apparently.
You can talk about condemning this, condemning that, condemn that cop for doing that, condemn this protestor for doing this and give moral judgment on these insignificant details or pretend that we care about people we don't know, just so we would be perceived as empathic and human. These micro-analyses and virtue signals are a waste of time.
Can't get away from the crux of the matter that certain groups of people are rioting or protesting because of a perceived injustice. This is not mainly about police brutality. If you really believe it is about police brutality first and foremost, you would have to say that the same outrage and reaction would've occurred if Floyd was a white guy and Chauvin black. If you're being honest, you'll admit no, so therefore agree that it's a racial issue.
These protests are about racism, plain and simple, and police violence was the catalyst. Just look at all the virtue signaling on social media. It's BLACK Lives Matter, right? It's BLACKout Tuesday, right? It's the BLACK victim and White racist all over. Right?
So the whole western world is up in arms about police violence perpetrated against blacks, which is a narrative that's been deliberately spun since the 80s. THAT's the crux of the protest. And THAT is why this is all so insane. There is no disproportionate violence towards black people by white cops. There IS, however, disproportionate violence from blacks to white cops.
US demographics:
White 77%%
Black 12,7%
Police Force demographics (
source):
White 77,1% (but I can't tell if this includes Hispanics)
Black 13,3%
Officers killed in the line of duty, 2008-2017: 496
Of those 496 officers, 427 were white (= 86,1% > 77,1%).
Of those 496 officers, 54 were black (= 10,9% < 13,3%).
Police killing offenders, 2008-2017: 517
Of those 517 offenders, 288 were white (= 55,7% < 77%)
Of those 517 offenders, 197 were black (= 38,1% > 12,7%)
White cops die more often compared to their proportion in the police force, while black cops die less compared to their proportion in the police force. Offenders are white less than their overall proportion of the populace, while offenders are black more than their overall proportion of the populace.
Sources:
These protests are utterly absurd.
EDIT: I changed white demographics to include Hispanics and Latinos.
