George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[vancityeagle]

The Washington post stats say there were 15 unarmed black people shot to death by police in 2019. These stats do not include People who were murdered by police with methods other then gunshot.

they also considered a man holding a chair a lethal weapon, and lets not forget toys and rocks.

 

[vancityeagle]

and the majority of those officers were attacked right before, one was an accidental discharge, two shot too fast and were convicted. Love how you start to cite imagined stats now Lol, and I hope you wrote that on your knees for blm or you’re racist

LOL.

All cops say they were attacked or afraid when they shoot people, you realize that is standard procedure.

 

[seekinheart]

so what do u want, trump out of office? all police officers to do lie detectors? whats the end game here

 

[justjess]

Ok, you believe in ClimateChange too! Never mind I brought it up. lol

You have no idea what I believe. You pigeonhole people and advocate for state violence against citizens of another country when there’s no risk of blowback from that to yourself.

 

[lightseeker]

LOL.

All cops say they were attacked or afraid when they shoot people, you realize that is standard procedure.

LOL after arguing about statistics your final argument is that statistics are a lie

 

[justjess]

so what do u want, trump out of office? all police officers to do lie detectors? whats the end game here

When an officer breaks the law they are held accountable like everyone else. No special privilege.

 

[justjess]

LOL after arguing about statistics your final argument is that statistics are a lie

The statistics your citing are not a complete picture. But let’s go with them... 15 unarmed citizens (I am not going to go look up the stats again for all races, it is way higher then 15) being killed by police is unacceptable. 1 unarmed citizen being killed by police is unacceptable.

 

[seekinheart]

When an officer breaks the law they are held accountable like everyone else. No special privilege.

hes been charged? so now what?

 

[Artful Revealer]

How is that my logic? Criminals are criminals. Cops are public servants sworn to uphold the law. Someone who is upholding the law should also be accountable to that law. This is not rocket science

According to your reasoning, one is more justified to become angry and violent when people who are expected to live up to higher standards fail, than when people fail to live up to lower standards.

Think about it.

 

[justjess]

and the majority of those officers were attacked right before, one was an accidental discharge, two shot too fast and were convicted. Love how you start to cite imagined stats now Lol, and I hope you wrote that on your knees for blm or you’re racist

What imagined stats? I looked at your own source. It says 15 unarmed black people. Context is not given so wherever your getting the rest of this idk. You seem to very desperately want to believe we don’t have a violent cop problem. Unfortunately, we do.

 

[justjess]

hes been charged? so now what?

Charge them all. Not just the ones in this case. Change the culture that allows them to not be charged. Why do you think these four were charged when countless others never are?

 

[Artful Revealer]

Hmm, strange. The stats show those are by far mostly white victims getting shot in the circumstances you’re referring to there. Black victims overwhelmingly constitute the low-threat group, remember? You seem have a either a very short or a selective memory.

God, you're awful at this. xD

For the last time, what does this low-threat factor have to do with racism? Are low-threat black people disproportionately shot by white officers? Still waiting!

 

[justjess]

According to your reasoning, one is more justified to become angry and violent when people who are expected to live up to higher standards fail, than when people fail to live up to lower standards.

Think about it.

If I get a speeding ticket I lose my license to practice. Does that register in your head? Cops kill people and get Put back on the street.

your making false equivalences here. Criminals are arrested and go to jail. Killer cops - nope. Anger and violence are not sanctioned duties of the people sworn to uphold and enforce the law. Additionally I’ve already stated like a bajillion time that the violence is not okay and that it is being instigated by violent cops. How is a cop protecting and serving the community When the same cop is terrorizing the community?

My tax dollars go to paying the wages of this street gang. Not yours.

 

[Faker He-Man]

According to your reasoning, one is more justified to become angry and violent when people who are expected to live up to higher standards fail, than when people fail to live up to lower standards.

Think about it.

There is no higher standard as long as “qualified immunity” and the “thin blue line” are stacked up in their favor and consistently used as a get out of jail free license.

 

[lightseeker]

What imagined stats? I looked at your own source. It says 15 unarmed black people. Context is not given so wherever your getting the rest of this idk. You seem to very desperately want to believe we don’t have a violent cop problem. Unfortunately, we do.

context Is given. You can research every individual case and see what I said. Sorry if it disproves what you “feel”. The imagined stats that after these ones don’t fit your narrative “and there’s other cases that weren’t recorded where people were killed by other means”. Totally arbitrary. I’ve proved my point

 

[seekinheart]

Charge them all. Not just the ones in this case. Change the culture that allows them to not be charged. Why do you think these four were charged when countless others never are?

right yeh, so basically jump through hoops til the people are satisfied, u cant re-open cases like that its not even practical.

 

[justjess]

context Is given. You can research every individual case and see what I said. Sorry if it disproves what you “feel”. The imagined stats that after these ones don’t fit your narrative “and there’s other cases that weren’t recorded where people were killed by other means”. Totally arbitrary. I’ve proved my point

Was George Floyd killed in a police shooting? No. Not included in stats. You’ve proved literally nothing.

 

[justjess]

right yeh, so basically jump through hoops til the people are satisfied, u cant re-open cases like that its not even practical.

You can change the laws going forward. How is that jumping through hoops? That’s the right thing to do and had it been done years ago there would be no reason to protest at all

 

[Faker He-Man]

God, you're awful at this. xD

For the last time, what does this low-threat factor have to do with racism? Are low-threat black people disproportionately shot by white officers? Still waiting!

Please explain why the officer’s race is even a factor to consider? White cops are no more likely to kill black people than black cops are. We’ve already done this. Please try to keep up.

 

[Artful Revealer]

You have no idea what I believe. You pigeonhole people and advocate for state violence against citizens of another country when there’s no risk of blowback from that to yourself.

Your argument was it got a lot of traction, therefore there must be something true to it. That's a fallacy.

"State violence" against citizens ... If violence against citizens is what bothers you, the most violence against citizens is committed by BLACK PEOPLE! Start making sense! lol