George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[Kung Fu]

Taking into account criminal records?

Yes.

These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.

 

[Artful Revealer]

Yes.

These disparities were observed “after controlling for a wide variety of sentencing factors,” including age, education, citizenship, weapon possession and prior criminal history.

20%? I find that hard to believe. They never even claimed 20% without taking into account criminal records, to my recollection.

 

[Lisa]

The rapture is at hand.

What if it’s not but will be a little while longer?

 

[justjess]

13% committing 52% of the homicides. Are you saying 13% commits 52% of the homicides because the police is racist towards them? I'm saying police probably wouldn't be perceived as violent as they are if the black community didn't have such high crime levels.

European people have developed high trust societies over time and have been disarmed. Police has also been disarmed of lethal weapons in many places. There's no violence and gang culture in most of Europe as there exists in the US although American culture quickly follows in Europe, so, together with the open-border policies, this is also changing.

The numbers I saw said they make up about 36% of perpetrators and 52% of victims. The report also made clear that these numbers only reflect solved crimes where race was known and do not reflect a large amount of crimes committed since this information does not exist - they are unsolved.

You would never be in favor of outlawing guns in America so I don’t know why your attribute better police relations in Europe to a solution not available here while cheering on the police violence (or atleast shrugging it off) that is occurring in a country where you don’t reside.

 

[Kung Fu]

20%? I find that hard to believe. They never even claimed 20% without taking into account criminal records, to my recollection.

You can find it hard to believe but that's what the research and data shows. It's not surprising really. Institutional racism has gone nowhere for blacks. The academic work on it is pretty clear.

Sure, perhaps some things have evened out for blacks but sentencing and racial profiling certainly hasn't.

 

[Artful Revealer]

You can find it hard to believe but that's what the research and data shows. It's not surprising really. Institutional racism has gone nowhere for blacks. The academic work on it is pretty clear.

Sure, perhaps some things have evened out for blacks but sentencing and racial profiling certainly hasn't.

Where does it say that about criminal records in the study? I couldn't find it.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Yes, but are the cops shooting low threat blacks overwhelmingly black too?

no, neither race is responsible for more than the other surprisingly. I am not sure what that suggests. Either way though, I hope you understand that it is known as systemic racism for a reason.

 

[Artful Revealer]

The numbers I saw said they make up about 36% of perpetrators and 52% of victims. The report also made clear that these numbers only reflect solved crimes where race was known and do not reflect a large amount of crimes committed since this information does not exist - they are unsolved.

36%, 52%? What do these numbers represent?

You would never be in favor of outlawing guns in America so I don’t know why your attribute better police relations in Europe to a solution not available here while cheering on the police violence (or atleast shrugging it off) that is occurring in a country where you don’t reside.

Never said I was in favour of my people being disarmed lol

On the contrary. If I say Americans shouldn't disarm, it's with utmost sincerity and concern for their well-being.

 

[Artful Revealer]

no, neither race is responsible for more than the other surprisingly. I am not sure what that suggests. Either way though, I hope you understand that it is known as systemic racism for a reason.

I feel like I'm the only one reading the actual sources of the opposite side.

This is the text that went along with the picture:

If fatal shootings of minority civilians are due to bias by white officers, we would expect that when white officers are involved in a fatal shooting, the person fatally shot would be more likely to be black or Hispanic.​

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This is not what we found. In contrast, when all the officers that fired at a civilian were black, a person was 2.0 times more likely to be black than when all the officers who fired were white. When all the officers that fired at a civilian were Hispanic, a person was 9.0 times more likely to be Hispanic than when all the officers who fired were white.​

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This finding, however, does not mean that black or Hispanic officers are biased in their shooting decisions. Cities with larger populations of nonwhite civilians also have a higher proportion of nonwhite officers. Once these factors were taken into account, black and Hispanic officers were no longer more likely to shoot black or Hispanic citizens.​

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Officer sex, experience and the total number of officers who fired also did not predict racial disparities in fatal shootings.​

Source

 

[justjess]

36%, 52%? What do these numbers represent?

Never said I was in favour of my people being disarmed lol

On the contrary. If I say Americans shouldn't disarm, it's with utmost sincerity and concern for their well-being.

36% of homicides were committed by blacks
52% of murder victims were black

 

[Lisa]

All 57 members of Buffalo's Emergency Response Team RESIGN in 'disgust' over the suspension and criminal probe of two cops for shoving a peace activist, 75, to the floor during protests

Two Buffalo cops investigated after shoving elderly man to the ground

The two officers are under criminal investigation after footage captured them shoving Martin Gugino and leaving him with critical injuries in an incident in front of Buffalo's City Hall on Thursday night.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[justjess]

All 57 members of Buffalo's Emergency Response Team RESIGN in 'disgust' over the suspension and criminal probe of two cops for shoving a peace activist, 75, to the floor during protests

Two Buffalo cops investigated after shoving elderly man to the ground

The two officers are under criminal investigation after footage captured them shoving Martin Gugino and leaving him with critical injuries in an incident in front of Buffalo's City Hall on Thursday night.

www.dailymail.co.uk

That’s not a good thing. And I already posted it. Did you see what they did to that old man? Do you care?

 

[Faker He-Man]

I feel like I'm the only one reading the actual sources of the opposite side.

This is the text that went along with the picture:

Once these factors were taken into account, black and Hispanic officers were no longer more likely to shoot black or Hispanic citizens.​

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yes, this is exactly what I just implied in different words. What is your point? Do you understand what systemic racism is exactly?

 

[Lyfe]

Who determined that if you denounce the acts of the violent and destructive individuals in these protests that it by default means you are on the side of police brutality??? That logic names no sense

 

[Kung Fu]

Where does it say that about criminal records in the study? I couldn't find it.

If you click on the blue hypertext (a new report on sentencing disparities) you'll find it in the "key findings" under the first section labelled "introduction".

 

[Maes17]

And in the video he was already handcuffed in an unmarked black suv with a cop before he was transferred to the others. Was it his suv? What was going on there.
and you see him just collapse when he’s walked over by the cops
then there’s this
View attachment 37432
they wanted this to go world wide
link to the Paris one, haven’t found madrid

VIDEO. A Paris, la police utilise la même technique que celle qui a tué George Floyd

Dans le XXème arrondissement de Paris, le jeune Amara Touré a été immobilisé par la police avec un genou sur le cou. Une « technique d'interpellation » qui rappelle la manière dont a été tué George Floyd quatre jours auparavant par la police aux Etats-Unis.

www.revolutionpermanente.fr

New arrest procedures?
Jeez the copy cats all have to look pretty.

 

[Maes17]

Who determined that if you denounce the acts of the violent and destructive individuals in these protests that it by default means you are on the side of police brutality??? That logic names no sense

There’s too much tension and emotion.

 

[Kung Fu]

"A 2014 University of Michigan Law School study, for instance, found that all other factors being equal, black offenders were 75 percent more likely to face a charge carrying a mandatory minimum sentence than a white offender who committed the same crime."

That's from the article but I under a different study which they hyperlinked.

 

[justjess]

Who determined that if you denounce the acts of the violent and destructive individuals in these protests that it by default means you are on the side of police brutality??? That logic names no sense

No one. But in the event that is not the case a simple question should invoke a simple answer. If your referencing my question.. the question was directed towards someone who’s character I’m pretty well acquainted with. And it’s notable she hasn’t answered it, yet liked this post.

 

[justjess]

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