George Floyd/Protests/Peace/Riots/Chaos

[lightseeker]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268945521873477633

Give me your privilage, and stop doing police violence

 

[Lyfe]

Patrol officer SET ON FIRE during police brutality protests over ‘Mexican George Floyd’ (VIDEO)

A police officer was set on fire while confronting a group of demonstrators in Mexico. Protests and rioting in the country were triggered by the death of a local man shortly after his detention.

www.rt.com

 

[Artful Revealer]

Hmm, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Maybe you read the wrong article, or didn’t read far enough. No worries.

Ohh, nice dodge there. xD

 

[rainerann]

I was just going to post something about the left proposing what is a clearcut new world agenda: defunding, ie. moving to privatise, the police. How is this good news? Globalists have been wanting this for decades.

I would be interested in seeing that. However, I question it already considering what our military and law enforcement budget is in the us. I find it hard to bridge how the globalists support defunding the police and a globalist agenda.

although, it looks like you are not really suggesting that they want to defund the police. You are saying they want to privatize the police, so that’s not really the same thing that I’m saying.

I was born a few years after Vietnam ended and there were a lot of people in my community who had been anti war, participated in protests, the whole bit. I was taught this was a positive moment in history to remember.

when I read the gospels for the first time, it was through a lens that had a positive view of the anti war movement. I was more or less a modern hippie when I was first saved. Jesus raised the bar of the anti war movement, and raising the bar was how to be more effective.

Without pulling out my Bible verses, building a peaceful community is what we need, not increased funding for law enforcement. If the globalists are trying to manipulate things to go their way by defunding the police, then they may as well be falling into a spiritual trap by doing it is how I feel.

there are rare instances where I find police necessary. Few and far between instances and that is only because I have found some ability to see these things as an adult that has moved past seeing them harass teenagers for the time I was one.

they have even harassed me on a couple of occasions as an adult, but I’ll leave those details out. Most of the instances I support law enforcement, are not their strong suit too considering how many child abusers don’t go to jail.

So yeah, I have no objections to defunding the police at all. Defunding police and military would make the world a better place, and I don’t support privatization of police unless there is a democratic process and basically they work as volunteers with no pay.

Financial incentive creates problems for law enforcement. The police force should function the same way a charity does with donated time, not as a business that seeks to compete in some way or protect the interests only of the persons funding their organization.

And it looks like you are leading in the direction of saying that they want to defund the police so they can finance an organization that will more directly serve their interests. A lot can happen in the interim between point a and point b, is what I would say to that.

 

[lightseeker]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268936285441359872

The letter was drafted by infectious disease "experts" at the University of Washington, which has been integral in studying the coronavirus in the US. They write that "pervasive racism" is now "the paramount public health problem," superseding the virus.

 

[Artful Revealer]

@Corvus Metus

You think you get a pass because you use a non-racial identifier (cops)? Try replacing cops with a demographic and see how that sounds, even if it's true.

Fact: Police are prone to abusing their power.

Jews are prone to earn money off vice.

Muslims are prone to terrorism.

Blacks are prone to violence.

Gays are prone to contract AIDS.

See how that works?

Doesn't sound very good, does it? At least, when someone says these things I just listed, there's public outrage, because we're not allowed to generalize an entire group because of the wrongdoings of a minority. That's politically incorrect, you see. But you have no problem generalizing against cops, because you've been taught to dislike them by those who seek to disrupt order when things don't go their way and it's being encouraged by alot of institutions that aim to control people's minds. If you criticize cops now, all cops, you get public endorsement. If you criticize criminals however, then ooooh ... dangerous territory.

Fact: People are currently protesting the murder of a black man by a cop.

Murder implies intent. Is it proven or can anyone be sure Chauvin intended to kill him?

Fact: Stopping police violence against minorities should stop police violence against everyone.

The current protests should be a means to an end if you care about fighting oppression.

I care about fighting real oppression, not an imaginary one.

 

[Lyfe]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268936285441359872

The letter was drafted by infectious disease "experts" at the University of Washington, which has been integral in studying the coronavirus in the US. They write that "pervasive racism" is now "the paramount public health problem," superseding the virus.

So much for covid 19

 

[Faker He-Man]

Ohh, nice dodge there. xD

I’m not sure what else you’re looking for. I even quoted the portion that mentions the relevant data. Here it is again, if that helps:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11524-020-00430-0
“Conversely, class 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), which are LIH characterized by an apparent absence of force used by the victim, is the only class in which the plurality of victims is a non-white race (black, non-Hispanic). This finding comports with prior LIH research that finds that black Americans are not only disproportionately likely to be killed by law enforcement but are disproportionately unlikely to present an objective threat of deadly force (as measured both directly by mention of use of force by victim in incident narratives and by proxy through victim’s armed status)”

 

[Artful Revealer]

I’m not sure what else you’re looking for. I even quoted the portion that mentions the relevant data. Here it is again, if that helps:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11524-020-00430-0
“Conversely, class 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), which are LIH characterized by an apparent absence of force used by the victim, is the only class in which the plurality of victims is a non-white race (black, non-Hispanic). This finding comports with prior LIH research that finds that black Americans are not only disproportionately likely to be killed by law enforcement but are disproportionately unlikely to present an objective threat of deadly force (as measured both directly by mention of use of force by victim in incident narratives and by proxy through victim’s armed status)”

The question remains: what about these findings is racist or discriminatory? I read the whole thing. Just because black non-Hispanics are overrepresented in certain categories doesn't mean they are overrepresented in said categories because of the colour of their skin.

 

[Faker He-Man]

black non-Hispanics are overrepresented in certain categories

Which categories exactly?

 

[Artful Revealer]

Which categories exactly?

Quote:

... we find that the greatest proportions of black, non-Hispanic victims in our sample were in classes 5 (warrants and wanted people with guns), 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), and 7 (motor vehicle assaults on LE*)—classes with the lowest probabilities for suicidal or impaired victims.

*LE: Law Enforcement

 

[Wigi]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268936285441359872

The letter was drafted by infectious disease "experts" at the University of Washington, which has been integral in studying the coronavirus in the US. They write that "pervasive racism" is now "the paramount public health problem," superseding the virus.

Mass psychotic break that's the word and it becomes more and more ridiculous. What's next? So called 'experts' will take advantage of an emotionally charged context to blame the spread of the virus on racism?
Oh wait a minute :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268159721468559360

 

[Artful Revealer]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268936285441359872

The letter was drafted by infectious disease "experts" at the University of Washington, which has been integral in studying the coronavirus in the US. They write that "pervasive racism" is now "the paramount public health problem," superseding the virus.

I really have a hard time believing this is true, just based on the letter's rhetoric. Does the University of Washington confirm this?

 

[Artful Revealer]

 

[lightseeker]

Mass psychotic break that's the word and it becomes more and more ridiculous. What's next? So called 'experts' will take advantage of an emotionally charged context to blame the spread of the virus on racism?
Oh wait a minute :

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1268159721468559360

The less logical sense something makes, the more virtuous merit they believe their statement has

I really have a hard time believing this is true, just based on the letter's rhetoric. Does the University of Washington confirm this?

Over 1,000 health professionals sign a letter saying, Don’t shut down protests using coronavirus concerns as an excuse - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News

(CNN) — A group of health and medical colleagues has penned an open letter to express their concern that protests around the United States could<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

whdh.com

You better start believing in clown world. You're in one

 

[Faker He-Man]

Quote:

... we find that the greatest proportions of black, non-Hispanic victims in our sample were in classes 5 (warrants and wanted people with guns), 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), and 7 (motor vehicle assaults on LE*)—classes with the lowest probabilities for suicidal or impaired victims.

*LE: Law Enforcement

Why the low-threat category? Shouldn’t that be the high-threat category instead if everything you claim is true? Please explain why it’s the low-threat group that is the most disproportionately black.

 

[Artful Revealer]

De Blasio: "George Floyd protests essential. Church ceremonies not okay."

Pick a side, guys. The rapture is at hand.

NYC Mayor de Blasio: Protests essential, but not religion


New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio said Tuesday that ongoing protests in the city merit exceptions to coronavirus regulations, while religious services do not. The mayor’s remarks have drawn criticism from New York’s archdiocese.

“When you see a nation, an entire nation simultaneously grappling with an extraordinary crisis seeded in 400 years of American racism, I’m sorry, that is not the same question as the understandably aggrieved store owner or the devout religious person who wants to go back to services,” de Blasio said at a June 2 press conference, while defending his policy of allowing mass protests while continuing to restrict religious gatherings during the coronavirus pandemic.

On Wednesday, Ed Mechmann, director of public policy for the Archdiocese of New York, said the mayor’s policy shows that religious liberty is now considered a low priority in the city.

“It is clear that in the eyes of our government officials, the politically preferred viewpoint of anti-racism is favored and allowed, while the unpopular one of religious worship is belittled and denigrated,” Mechmann wrote on the archdiocesan website June 3.

...

 

[Artful Revealer]

The less logical sense something makes, the more virtuous merit they believe their statement has

Over 1,000 health professionals sign a letter saying, Don’t shut down protests using coronavirus concerns as an excuse - Boston News, Weather, Sports | WHDH 7News

(CNN) — A group of health and medical colleagues has penned an open letter to express their concern that protests around the United States could<a class="excerpt-read-more"...

whdh.com

You better start believing in clown world. You're in one

When you think it can't get any worse, they still happen to amaze me.

 

[Faker He-Man]

Quote:

... we find that the greatest proportions of black, non-Hispanic victims in our sample were in classes 5 (warrants and wanted people with guns), 6 (low threat, likely unarmed), and 7 (motor vehicle assaults on LE*)—classes with the lowest probabilities for suicidal or impaired victims.

*LE: Law Enforcement

Quote (emphasis mine): “the latent class in which the victim appeared to pose minimal threat to law enforcement was the only class in which the plurality of victims was a non-white race”

 

[Artful Revealer]

Why the low-threat category? Shouldn’t that be the high-threat category instead if everything you claim is true? Please explain why it’s the low-threat group that is the most disproportionately black.

Why would low-threat blacks be disproportionately targeted more than high-threat blacks? If your theory is true, this wouldn't make sense.

My data provides a possible explanation, without claiming it is the explanation. That:
1. Black cops fire quicker than cops of other races.
2. Predominantly black communities will have predominantly black law enforcement.