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Kpop Satanic/Illuminati Influence
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You do understand this song on its most basic level? You do get that he is singing to the girl he is dancing with and how he will do whatever it takes to be what she wants and needs him to be?
He can be sugar or spice? He can be cinnamon, mint, bubblegum, strawberry or whatever? This is all about his attraction to a girl and has to be one of the least “gay” videos or lyrics I’ve seen. I mean here you have him actually dancing with a girl and flirting with her and yet you still are determined to make him gay? Have you seen the subtle yet very flirtatious facial expressions he is using - which by the way are not in the slightest bit inappropriate for a 28 yr old man
God forbid that the candy would simply represent the candy he is singing about! Yes maybe the red cups, which are often used to contain alcoholic or non-alcoholic drinks, might suggest alcohol but he is 28! If he wants to drink alcohol it’s not a crime! Given that the video shows them drinking soft drinks, I’m not seeing any actual alcoholic drinks!
Its not a kids party? No, it’s set in one of the most common places on Earth that people go to when they’re dating! What do they sell there? Candy.What’s the song about? How he will whatever candy she wants him to be!
The “Welcome to Acid House” tshirt is another example of how you guys think you’re so knowledgeable when you haven’t got a clue. This stems from a 1988, anti-drugs cartoon in a U.K. newspaper.
I’m guessing you can see what is being portrayed in the cartoon? It’s called irony?
The T-shirts with that slogan on them, are made by a South Korean clothing company which is, I am guessing, why they are used. Before you doubt my understanding, I was a teenager in 1988 in the U.K.. I lived the history of it.
Casa Roshell, is a drama-documentary - it’s a drama based on a real life place. Casa Roswell is a place where men learn about what women need and men learn about what women need and the stereotypical norms that have been established by a traditionally patriarchal society are blurred. Once again you are missing the point of the reference. There is a positive stance being taken here towards women - pro-feminist and pro gender equality? The song is not portraying females as stereotypical, one dimensional characters, like many men expect them to be. It’s acknowledging that females too are multi-dimensional individuals with different needs. He is telling her, he will be whatever she needs him to be - serious, funny, loving, bubbly or whatever! He can be there to fulfil all her needs!
In the lyrics you quoted about an invitation, he is inviting her to take a chance on him; to trust him to meet her needs?
If you look carefully at the hero in the poster, it is a female image and not male. However, the hero is traditionally a male role. Here, Baekhyun’s hero (heroine) is being portrayed as a woman. Again switching up gender typical roles.
Perhaps if you weren’t so intent on seeing Kpop as evil, you would actually see the true meaning in what they are doing and the anti-drugs, pro-feminist agenda this song is promoting.
Of course, I’m wrong. I won’t expect you to accept what I’m saying because you all know better - you’re all so deeply enlightened while I am a dinosaur - from where I’m sitting though, it’s clear who the real dinosaurs are.
They didn’t.
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So, already thank you, for this comment, provided.You do understand this song on its most basic level? You do get that he is singing to the girl he is dancing with and how he will do whatever it takes to be what she wants and needs him to be?
He can be sugar or spice? He can be cinnamon, mint, bubblegum, strawberry or whatever? This is all about his attraction to a girl and has to be one of the least “gay” videos or lyrics I’ve seen. I mean here you have him actually dancing with a girl and flirting with her and yet you still are determined to make him gay? Have you seen the subtle yet very flirtatious facial expressions he is using - which by the way are not in the slightest bit inappropriate for a 28 yr old man
God forbid that the candy would simply represent the candy he is singing about! Yes maybe the red cups, which are often used to contain alcoholic or non-alcoholic drinks, might suggest alcohol but he is 28! If he wants to drink alcohol it’s not a crime! Given that the video shows them drinking soft drinks, I’m not seeing any actual alcoholic drinks!
Its not a kids party? No, it’s set in one of the most common places on Earth that people go to when they’re dating! What do they sell there? Candy.What’s the song about? How he will whatever candy she wants him to be!
The “Welcome to Acid House” tshirt is another example of how you guys think you’re so knowledgeable when you haven’t got a clue. This stems from a 1988, anti-drugs cartoon in a U.K. newspaper.
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I’m guessing you can see what is being portrayed in the cartoon? It’s called irony?
The T-shirts with that slogan on them, are made by a South Korean clothing company which is, I am guessing, why they are used. Before you doubt my understanding, I was a teenager in 1988 in the U.K.. I lived the history of it.
Casa Roshell, is a drama-documentary - it’s a drama based on a real life place. Casa Roswell is a place where men learn about what women need and men learn about what women need and the stereotypical norms that have been established by a traditionally patriarchal society are blurred. Once again you are missing the point of the reference. There is a positive stance being taken here towards women - pro-feminist and pro gender equality? The song is not portraying females as stereotypical, one dimensional characters, like many men expect them to be. It’s acknowledging that females too are multi-dimensional individuals with different needs. He is telling her, he will be whatever she needs him to be - serious, funny, loving, bubbly or whatever! He can be there to fulfil all her needs!
In the lyrics you quoted about an invitation, he is inviting her to take a chance on him; to trust him to meet her needs?
If you look carefully at the hero in the poster, it is a female image and not male. However, the hero is traditionally a male role. Here, Baekhyun’s hero (heroine) is being portrayed as a woman. Again switching up gender typical roles.
Perhaps if you weren’t so intent on seeing Kpop as evil, you would actually see the true meaning in what they are doing and the anti-drugs, pro-feminist agenda this song is promoting.
Of course, I’m wrong. I won’t expect you to accept what I’m saying because you all know better - you’re all so deeply enlightened while I am a dinosaur - from where I’m sitting though, it’s clear who the real dinosaurs are.
If not, precisely, if it's anti-drugs, why do they take it? And not throw it away at the end? Like, he could run away, since he has an "Exit" sign. Even if it is a kind of evening, which seems basic, if people do not dig every object.
And one of the things I learned during my studies of "visual communications", is that the meaning of an object, is not the same as its use, where the meaning given in the clip. And in the KPop clips, it's so mixed, that if he puts on like the tracksuit, that he means, that he is to say stopped, he can also underline the fact, that the candies are real drugs . And then in this kind of business, they also have no choice.
I take this opportunity to mark (I may have already marked it). But my cousin, refuses to do concerts, because they are obliged to this drug addict to hold the time of the concert.
Well, this is a perfect example of how it doesn’t mean what you think it means.
The tshirt, for example, might appear to support “the acid house” movement. However, if you are aware of the slogan behind it, you know it is actually the opposite.
Why does he take the candy and not run away? Well for fear of stating the obvious, if he runs away, there’s not going to be a music video. Secondly, he wants this girl - he calls her his love - he’s not going to run away from her. She’s afraid of committing to him but he’s reassuring he that he will be what she needs him to be. I’m imagining when he eats the candy it represents him being whatever type of candy she wants him to be.
The candy in the songs is obviously not candy, nor is it drugs. It is quite simply a metaphor for the different ways in which he can fulfil the girl’s needs. The lyrics of the song spell that out.
Its really not a particularly deep song. It does have a deeper meaning than might initially appear, but it’s really quite easily understood.
As regards the different outfits - I’m guessing they represent the different characters he is telling the girl he can be.
Not everything has to have a dark and sinister meaning.
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Hi! Did anybody has any idea about R@NNING MAEN shows agenda? I'm sooo concerned about jeon s0 m1n taking a break cause they said she's exhausted from all the schedules. But she's coloring her hair brown (well it's not blonde, but still ) before the day she's taking a break. I know it's an old news but it's hard to find certain topics when people censored the names lol (;
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When I point out a few things, it is not necessarily, because I see evil everywhere, but I admit, that when something bothers me, or is wrong, I tend to over-dig.
And so, sorry, I'm going to stress again with a sentence, since I planned to write an article: "I'm your candy", in a sense, I'm your drug, doesn't mean either, that he chooses to slept with her. And conversely, if someone wants someone, it does not mean that the other wants to be with the person. And then the decorative objects, only underlined, like the donut and hot dog sign.
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You just literally told us exactly what they want you to see...in an illuminati theories forum.
It's funny that you think we can't see it the other way.
They used an anti-drug t-shirt on a music video that according to you has nothing to do with drugs?...hmmm...ok.
All you're doing is arguing against the subject of this forum.
Do you not understand these are illuminati theories?!?!?!...we're not saying we're right. It's an alternative view.
You're in the wrong forum!
Are you incapable of anything other insulting people?
Shuna and I have a different opinion but st least she can discuss.
I didn’t say anything about him wanting to sleep with her. That’s not what it’s about, in my opinion.
Of course, it doesn’t mean she wants to be with him. However, the song implies that she is interested in him - that she can’t decide whether she wants to be with him or not.
I’ve tried really hard to look for your interpretation re drugs and I’m really not seeing it.
You make the mistake of believing that because you have studied visual communications you are an expert in interpretation. However, other people are also capable of studying symbolism and meaning behind writing, music and visual arts.
The way you interpret something is influenced by your motivation in interpreting it. Your allowing your views about the entertainment industry to see things from a biased perspective. You are missing the important messages of this song by following your own corrupt agenda.
What’s also unfortunate is that you are doing it from a narrow and naive perspective. You want songs with hidden meaning about sexuality and gay agendas, I can show you plenty. This is not one of them. If you have to dig too deeply to find something, it may not really be there.
You’re selling yourself short by insisting on following this anti-Kpop agenda. You’re missing out on the opportunity to draw attention to matters that really are important in the world today like drug abuse and gender inequality for females - especially in patriarchal societies like South Korea.
The new generation of South Korean pop stars don’t want a society biased in favour of males. Exo members like Baekhyun and Chanyeol spoke out against the “nth room”. BM from Kard raising breast cancer awareness.
Jae from Day 6 published on twitter, a conversation between him and JYP regarding his recent mental health. Changbin from Stray Kids dropped a beautiful song just last week about mental health issues. Taemin yesterday decorated a cake for Shinee’s 12th anniversary on a Vlive, where he included Jonghyun’s name on the cake. They openly support mental health charities. Loona produce multi-ethnic music videos for songs based on female empowerment.
This generation of idols are trying to change attitudes in South Korea towards women, people suffering with mental health conditions, minority groups Etc., yet all you narrow minded people want to do is tear them apart.
The stuff posted here goes beyond illuminati theories. It is seriously disturbing at times.
You make analysis on the basis of things you don’t even understand and when someone points an error in your interpretation out, you circle and attack.
Aren’t you ever capable of saying, actually o didn’t know that;That’s really interesting; thanks for telling me maybe I’ll take back what I said about that?
I’m wrong about things all the time - everyone is. If you are allowed to post your theory, then I am allowed to challenge it. You know what happens in a society where only one view is accepted? Autocracies snd Dictatorships. That’s what people on this thread want?
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People?
You annoy me.
Yeah, that much is clear
Do you think there are still popular idols who aren't involved with satanic rituals and illuminati?
This forum has this one idol guy who was not involved publicly in any controversies for 17 years.
This forum has this one idol guy who was not involved publicly in any controversies for 17 years.
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- I already respect what you say, I just emphasize certain things.
- For me, in reality, the symbols I don't care, I even full of times, diverted the symbols. I have the same criticism.
- Another thing, if the KPop was so turned on Korean music, why, it has more foreign reference. While it is supposed to push to change the psychology, the politics of the country, it would have been smarter, to mix it with the culture of the country, especially now, even if, it appears, I admit, a few times.
- For symbols, in my sources, I use a book, on symbols, in addition to many other sources. I put very far, my personal opinion.
- I let too many things go by, thinking like you, I blame myself and feel guilty. Many people, thinking that there is something wrong, they arrived, the subject created after the death of Jonghyun. And another person warned of Sulli's death ... We can be blamed for saving lives. Lives that are forced to shut up, and if they speak, they risk dying. And for the program, MK-Ultra, I really met, a victim, very old (and it is not the only person I meet, closely or remotely linked to the program, including my best friend (who for avoided the worst, left me after a year)). I have lots of other examples.
- And then this forum, as everyone points out, is already, in itself, theoretical. It is a forum, of reflections, on the theme of Illuminati and actions, see if you want bad political actions of bad tastes.
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I think those are two different things. You can still be a good person even if you've done something controversial. Half of those are controversial things are normal tbh like like drugs or got angry at someone, dated someone etc....Idols are forced to hide their true selves which is part of the problem.Do you think there are still popular idols who aren't involved with satanic rituals and illuminati?
This forum has this one idol guy who was not involved publicly in any controversies for 17 years.
Not all of them are involved in satanic rituals, depends on how much they want it. From what I've gathered is they have to be presented with the opportunity to take part in rituals. If the idol is open to it, that's when they properly join the occult. Apart from that they're just a normal person doing what their handlers tell them to do. Idols are trained to be puppets for the companies they work for, so they have no choice but to be involved with the illuminati. I had a look at Yunho (TVXQ), the guy they're talking about in the forum, he is managed by SM. They work for the illuminati, there's no escaping it.
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I thought i was the only one who noticed this!! I was really hoping they wouldnt give in to the industry's pressures. For the past 2 albums, this new one and Entropy, im gonna be honest: I didnt like any of the songs nor the overall vibe. Which goes against the fandom's saying that day6 has no bad songs.........but im gonna be real, i liked them primarily for their skill in musical composition?? I cant describe it well enough , but if you watch the ytube channel where classical musicians react to kpop songs, the way they describe day6s music is how I usually feel about them. It kinda felt as if the past few comebacks weren't them? If that makes sense. I was wondering: why is theres such a drastic change in their music style , and i get that artists want to experiment and find themselves in their music but something felt waaayyy off.Idk anymore, im just hoping and praying that they didnt sell their souls..
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that's how i feel when i listen to their songs with super sad or disturbing lyrics it just makes me feel uncomfortable like my soul is telling me this is wrong and influencing you too or something , and one thing most members on this thread have noticed is that kpop is kinda heading in another direction in an explicit way if i should say i'm not sure and they're flashing more symbolism than ever , they really don't try to hide who they worship anymore and maybe it changed because its based on what jyp wants them to do ..? also i know all their songs are usually about love and heartbreak etc but this time their lyrics seem to focus on how they feel deep down and how helpless and unhappy they are and maybe its also because they want to attract more fans hypnotically or they've placed more satnic spells and maybe even moved higher in free masonry etc for example ariana grande started off with a cute image but as she grew popular and deeper into the occult she changed a lot so maybe this is the same situation ..? im not sure and from debut they already did ..... it's hard to get in a satanic company like jyp or any other famous one without signing the contract to sell your soul or they would't accept and promote you .... and also i understand what you mean !! they are really good composers it's sad to see they're talent is being used to just distract and subconsciously hurt people ..
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Definitely. They're very talented and could go farther in terms with their music and composing but I guess in order to reach those types of goals they'd have to make a choice of who they will worship. Its disappointing because I really saw them as like the "cleanest" kpop artists out there. And i genuinely like all of their songs up until this year, and thats very hard to come by. I've never liked an artist ENTIRE discography like I had with d@y6. And it poses the question of how much freedom do they really have in creating their music and is it really their idea to have this kind of come back. For the longest , I've considered them more of a rock group than pop and didnt think they would make the usual move that most kpop idols make with going from a cutesy image to a dark/evil concept for their next comeback.
This is just the sad reality of living in this wicked system , that no matter how pure and genuine you think your favorite artist is , they're still being used by satanic companies who have other agendas. Theres still a part of me that wants to believe they are not willingly trying to manipulate their fans but as we witnessed over the past year that almost everyone in the Kpop world has played a part in these disgusting scandals. (I still cant get over the fact that Eddie and Roy Kim were involved in the chats, like duuuude. But i have a feel most of the people arrested for that might have been scapegoats. Who knows)
Anyways Idk what to believe anymore when it comes to celebrites nowadays. i just hope that day6 can fight against whatever theyre pressured to do.
Id like to also point out how dead J@e has been looking lately. Like if you watch clips of his podcast, he looks really disheveled. More than likely due to stress.