Coronavirus

[Frank Badfinger]

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it looks like we are finally hitting a peak where the number of active cases is not steadily increasing. Hopefully, it will start going down.

interestingly enough, several places started requiring masks around April 20 on average.

That's odd the CDC said the virus peaked in March on the 22nd/2020.

 

[VigCizMember]

Who cares when the virus peaks? It's utterly idiotic at this point. We know it has a tiny death rate. You can't contain it. Fauci himself said "masks don't work." This is being used to contain and push everyone into getting a vaccine. And the 5G roll-out will be used to help track us and bring us into their dystopian nightmare.

 

[rainerann]

Masks help stop the spread of coronavirus – the science is simple and I’m one of 100 experts urging governors to require public mask-wearing

Recommendations around mask usage are confusing. The science isn’t. Evidence shows that masks are extremely effective to slow the coronavirus and may be the best tool available right now to fight it.

theconversation.com

This was an interesting article that shows how masks are effective at containing droplets for people with symptoms or asymptomatic people.

and this was an interesting article about how long it can last in the air from talking. Apparently, when the droplet is smaller, the lifespan of the virus is shorter.
It is the larger droplets that stay in the air for longer periods of time meaning that a surgical mask should be sufficient to reduce your chances of getting it before the air is cleared.

Simply talking in confined spaces may be enough to spread the coronavirus, researchers say

As states reopen their economies, scientists warn that simply speaking in confined environments could lead to COVID-19 infections.

www.usatoday.com

There was also a doctor talking on Twitter about how air conditioning may have been responsible for spreading the virus. I really think we should be filtering air in public places. There isn’t a real downside to having the air cleaned when you go to a restaurant. It would probably even help improve our overall health to do something like this and help us get back to normal faster.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1260905962740867074

 

[VigCizMember]

Robert Kennedy Jr. THIS WILL EFFECT EVERYONE.

This video was up and then pulled OFF youtube. Starting to think they are desperately trying hiding something??

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[Frank Badfinger]

CDC says a cloth mask slows the spread of CV-19. Really?

SARS | Clinical | Guidance on Use of Respirators for Prevention | CDC

SARS, CDC Guidance for Clinicians on Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome information

www.cdc.gov

It's interesting that the CDC encourages people to wear cloth face masks to slow the spread of SARS-CoV2 aka COVID-19.

However, when you read the CDC recommendations for SARS which apparently CV-19 had 80% similar markers to SARS, hence why its called SAR2 - we are told this.

So they are not sure whether SARS is airborne but if it is, a N95 respirator will work. Even a N95 mask will not prevent the inhalation of the virus due to lack of proper fitting.
So, how does a cloth mask slow the virus down? Is that meant to make people feel better.

According to Professor Deloris Cahill (PhD in Immunology) this virus is NOT airborne. She says only three diseases are in fact airborne - they are TB, Ebola and Small Pox. She however did say CV-19 can be transmitted by door handles (surfaces)

 

[rainerann]

That's odd the CDC said the virus peaked in March on the 22nd/2020.

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read the description for figure 18. This is the percentage of people reporting to the hospital for flu like symptoms including covid cases. This decline shows when other testing centers started opening up. Technically, if you have the money, you can even order a test online now and don’t even have to leave the house.

Anyone can now get a coronavirus test at home for $119

A large network of labs is now selling at-home coronavirus test kits for $119. The test will tell you whether you’ve developed COVID-19 antibodies if …

bgr.com

Many people who test positive are told to self quarantine at home. So the peak is just starting to be seen because the number of cases has continued to increase ever since. They just haven’t all been going to the hospital to be tested.

There was no peak at the end of March. Hopefully, we might be starting to see one.

This image also doesn’t say there was ever a peak. You are the one claiming that this is what it is saying because you are manipulating the information presented. Your comment is inaccurate.

 

[VigCizMember]

I wouldn’t say it’s tiny. It’s pretty low for people in their 30s but with my life that’s a pretty big gamble.

I hope you don’t consider yourself “pro-life” lol

25 death per 100,000 population in US is pretty low

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Was no peak at the end of March. Hopefully, we might be starting to see one.

This image also doesn’t say there was ever a peak. You are the one claiming that this is what it is saying because you are manipulating the information presented. Your comment is inaccurate.

Sorry but you are wrong once again. You don't have to take my word. At 15:45 Professor Doloris Cahill (Degree in Molecular Genetics and PhD in Immunology) will explain it for you. In fact the whole video is worthwhile. You may learn something.

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[justjess]

it is 1 in every 700 people in ny. Similarily high in New Jersey and countrywide it is 1 in every 3,800 people. It helps make it more clear when you make the numbers more “knowable”

 

[Frank Badfinger]

If Ebola was “airborne” we’d all be in a lot of trouble so your immunologist is a crank.

A 20% difference in anything is a huge difference, Frank.

There’s roughly a 1% difference genetically speaking, Frank, between humans and chimpanzees and that 1% is a huge difference.

You make a great point. That's why scientists question how they apparently isolated the virus. Bad science.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

I love your constant appeals to authority when it’s someone you agree with but I could cite 100s that discredit all your garbage and you would deny it.

Really 100's?? Yikes!

 

[Frank Badfinger]

You are scientifically illiterate.

Are you getting paid by the hour?

 

[rainerann]

CDC says a cloth mask slows the spread of CV-19. Really?

SARS | Clinical | Guidance on Use of Respirators for Prevention | CDC

SARS, CDC Guidance for Clinicians on Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome information

www.cdc.gov

It's interesting that the CDC encourages people to wear cloth face masks to slow the spread of SARS-CoV2 aka COVID-19.

However, when you read the CDC recommendations for SARS which apparently CV-19 had 80% similar markers to SARS, hence why its called SAR2 - we are told this.

So they are not sure whether SARS is airborne but if it is, a N95 respirator will work. Even a N95 mask will not prevent the inhalation of the virus due to lack of proper fitting.
So, how does a cloth mask slow the virus down? Is that meant to make people feel better.

According to Professor Deloris Cahill (PhD in Immunology) this virus is NOT airborne. She says only three diseases are in fact airborne - they are TB, Ebola and Small Pox. She however did say CV-19 can be transmitted by door handles (surfaces)

I just went over the size of the particle with an article showing that cloth masks are effective in preventing asymptomatic people from spitting droplets in the air and that smaller droplets dispersed by talking die quicker than larger droplets Making cloth masks suitable for the general population.

For the healthcare population that has to work with a patient in ways that require a positive patient to take off a mask. Like if they needed to take medication by mouth. A n95 would be appropriate.

any healthcare worker that works with a patient in a airborne isolation has to be fitted to wear a n95 mask that comes in small, regular, and large sizes like clothes. so the issues that you bring up are all non-issues.

And I will watch this lady at some point, but off the top of my head she is missing chicken pox and shingles. I’m also not impressed by these doctors who keep complaining about the way things are done but have no solutions to offer.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

For my day job, yeah. For here, nothing, unfortunately. Believe me if I could make money shilling for the masons, the jews, the Illuminati, the bankers, the satanists, the homosexuals, the royal family, the Catholic Church, the reptiles or the aliens, believe me, I wouldn’t be a day laborer anymore.

So you just attack and try to discredit forum members on your own accord? With no form of compensation? Impressive!
So you're just an asshole. Ok, well that's settled.

 

[rainerann]

Sorry but you are wrong once again. You don't have to take my word. At 15:45 Professor Doloris Cahill (Degree in Molecular Genetics and PhD in Immunology) will explain it for you. In fact the whole video is worthwhile. You may learn something.

MUST WATCH: Debunking the Narrative (With Prof. Dolores Cahill)

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I was expecting a better rebuttal, but I’m starting to think you are not reading what I’m saying and that is why your responses don’t address anything I say directly. I listened to around minute 18 when she starts talking about how 50% of the cases in China were over 80 initially.

so I already know that’s not true too because I read the articles from China that were cited by fauci that gave a median age of 47 or 52 from the two articles. I posted about this and I’m not going to double check that these were the exact age, but the Chinese papers pointed to a patient population that was primarily middle aged.

however, in regard to the image. She basically says the same thing you are saying so I will say again. The image description tagged figure 18 says this is showing the number of people seeking services at the hospital for covid 19. This was because hospitals were connected to the only approved testing centers through public health departments.

around the time that the number in the image declines is around the same time that other facilities starting submitting and being approved to do testing outside of hospitals. A peak is identified when the number of active cases stops increasing. In other words when the number of people testing positive stops increasing, which it had not done yet. The number of new cases exceeds the number of recovered cases meaning there is no peak.

however, the fact that people remain active for as long as a month could also influence this, but it still would suggest that the peak did not take place in March.

this person does not elucidate how I should change my opinion at all since you are only repeating what she said to begin with. Scratching my head at how you thought this was going to cause me to be led to a different conclusion.

 

[Frank Badfinger]

Typical far right propaganda. You’re nothing special.

Far right? You're funny Bert. They teach you that in Shill College?

You discredit yourself Frank, by posting and saying things that aren’t true.

I'll put my money on the experts thank you

When called on it you get hostile and defensive.

You got me pegged Bert. Another Shill College tactic.

When I’m wrong I’ll admit it and move on. Big difference.

How's this? I'll just move on and you can go back to pretending you're not a shill.

Have a super day Bert!

 

[Frank Badfinger]

I was expecting a better rebuttal, but I’m starting to think you are not reading what I’m saying and that is why your responses don’t address anything I say directly. I listened to around minute 18 when she starts talking about how 50% of the cases in China were over 80 initially.

so I already know that’s not true too because I read the articles from China that were cited by fauci that gave a median age of 47 or 52 from the two articles. I posted about this and I’m not going to double check that these were the exact age, but the Chinese papers pointed to a patient population that was primarily middle aged.

however, in regard to the image. She basically says the same thing you are saying so I will say again. The image description tagged figure 18 says this is showing the number of people seeking services at the hospital for covid 19. This was because hospitals were connected to the only approved testing centers through public health departments.

around the time that the number in the image declines is around the same time that other facilities starting submitting and being approved to do testing outside of hospitals. A peak is identified when the number of active cases stops increasing. In other words when the number of people testing positive stops increasing, which it had not done yet. The number of new cases exceeds the number of recovered cases meaning there is no peak.

however, the fact that people remain active for as long as a month could also influence this, but it still would suggest that the peak did not take place in March.

this person does not elucidate how I should change my opinion at all since you are only repeating what she said to begin with. Scratching my head at how you thought this was going to cause me to be led to a different conclusion.

Take it up with the CDC. It's their chart she is reading. BTW, where did you get your chart from? No source?

 

[rainerann]

Take it up with the CDC. It's their chart she is reading. BTW, where did you get your chart from? No source?

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

scroll to the bottom of the page.

 

[seekinheart]

THE BIG SHORT;The more pessimistic HHS models predict 100,000-240,000 COVID deaths. A highly respected 1982 academic research book “Corporate Flight: The Causes and Consequences of Economic Dislocation” by Bluestone, Harrison and Baker estimates that every additional 1% rise in unemployment causes 37,000 excess deaths (including 20,000 heart attacks ,920 suicides, 650 homicides)and 4,000 mental hospital admissions and 3,300 state prison admissions. On 3/24,2020 the Fed predicted a 30% rise in unemployment from the CV Quarantine. That equals 1,100,000 additional deaths-almost 5x the government’s worst predictions for CV 19 deaths. Add additional deaths from disrupted supply chains for food & meds & from deferred medical treatments for non emergency ills like diabetes & hypertension.
Moreover,a growing body of research finds social isolation is lethal. #sayergmi Sayer Ji of #greenmedinfo has reprinted 13 studies showing dramatic increases in deaths from isolation. "Social Isolation: A Predictor of Mortality Comparable to Traditional Clinical Risk Factors," found social isolation as strong a factor in mortality risk as smoking, and higher than having high blood pressure. Another article , "The Pandemic America Forgot About," concluded:
"Loneliness and social isolation have the same cardiovascular effects as smoking 15 cigarettes per day
& also increase the risk of "all-cause morbidity,". Loneliness increases the risk of developing dementia by 50% & stroke by 32% while dramatically increasing of cancer risks according to a 1997 JAMA study, "Social Ties and Susceptibility to the Common Cold," Researchers found that isolation increases susceptibility to the common cold and respiratory infection“More diverse social networks were associated with greater resistance to upper respiratory illness”; a 2015 study found that men experience an 85% increased risk of mortality following losing their jobs. Moreover, a 2020 Lancet study on the "Psychobiological effects of quarantine and how to reduce it," found”most of the adverse effects (suicide,anger & illness)come from ..restriction of liberty."& “separation from loved ones. “

 

[justjess]

The virus isn’t the conspiracy for chrissakes. The conspiracy is that they allowed the virus to infiltrate all corners of the world when there was plenty of advanced notice to get the basic preventative measures in place before we needed them. That would have allowed us to avoid the economic shutdown and saved lives and this whole mess would have passed like a blip. We have historical precedent, we’ve been here before. We are supposed to learn from past mistakes, and I’m sure we did so the rest is purposeful.

the worst case projections said up to 2 million deaths. With that said I truly don’t understand what you guys are even arguing... is it fake? Is it not fake? Did China do it? Did 5g do it? It’s hard to follow when half the things said completely contradict the other half of the things said.

i do know this, the amount of people who’ve been going for the jugular with other posters on this site has increased quite a bit so whatever the bottom line is here they sure have succeeded in using this virus effectively to drive people even further apart. Which is probably most of the point to begin with, so good job playing into their hand.