You so much said you don’t have any desire to go searching for evidence? Yet you were intrigued when people calling Haechan a female and you started your own research and there you go, well done. If they say they are female but they aren’t means they are liars, why should they lied?? And for most people we don’t like being lied to, idolizing someone who’s fake? Maybe you like fake, and what are you doing here?? Yes you may share your opinion but please you are in denial and just bashing people for speaking the truth, you just hated it because you fancy every idol in Kpop and it hurts you everytime you think people are hurting them, beach please, go away. If you don’t agree with what we are doing here don’t fucking waste any pages, read the title of this thread and you should know you don’t belong here.
Firstly, I didn’t go searching for any evidence for Haechan. My daughter showed me the photograph just a few days ago when we were discussing the fact that SM have a tendency to release “natural” photos and how some fans in SK don’t like it because they think it makes idols look bad. She had seen it discussed on Twitter.
I was intrigued to see Haechan’s name mentioned because when I saw that question asked originally, I could almost have guaranteed someone would have mentioned him. He has an usual singing voice, he’s long legged, thin and pretty, he’s affectionate with other members (probably to annoy them) etc. Predictably, I knew someone would say he was feminine.
I am not in denial about anything. I don’t go around in my every day life questioning whether everyone I meet is the gender they say they are, why would I do it about celebrities? You do know it’s not normal to do that, right? To be so suspicious of the world, you don’t even trust that people are the gender they claim to be? If someone presents themselves as a certain gender - why would I question it? What gives me the right to? Even if they are lying, it is not harming me. It might be harming them but it’s not hurting me.
You don’t have the right to question anyone’s gender but even if you did, take a minute to think about how these guys live. Pre-debut lots of them sleep in one dorm. Even post-debut they share a room with other members. They are fitted for costumes which they often say are tailor made. Have you any idea how a tailor measures guys, in particular, for trousers? They live together and share bathrooms. They change outfits backstage together - sometimes very quickly. They see each other with out clothes on. There was a behind the scenes video of Taemin at a concert. He had to get changed really quickly in the really confined space under stage. There were at least four people there, helping him. They all saw him change. Some helped him get his clothes off and on again.
Have you stopped to think how crazy it is backstage at a concert where guys/girls are all getting changed in a hurry. There’s not too much in the way of privacy. Dignity goes out the window!
The way you take pleasure in discussing and speculating about individuals’ gender here is not normal. You have no proof of anything and you’re all so blinded by your beliefs that you try to justify what you do over and over again. It’s disgusting. I won’t go away. I have as much right to post here as you do. The things you speculate about here are sickening. What kind of people go around questioning other people’s gender?
