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I'm sure the size of the reaction will be big enough to justify the inevitable solutions.I wonder how many more of these "protests" will emerge
I'm sure the size of the reaction will be big enough to justify the inevitable solutions.I wonder how many more of these "protests" will emerge
I don’t understand why the healthcare workers were blocking people from protesting..seems unamerican.'Heroes': Healthcare Workers Stand in Street to Block Right-Wing Protest Against Colorado Stay-at-Home Order | Common Dreams
"When they're telling us not to contribute to what they're seeing in the hospital every day, listen."www.commondreams.org
yes it is.COVID is a nationalists wet dream. I posted this before but..
Covid-19 Is the Crisis Radical ‘Traditionalists’ Have Been Waiting For
Steve Bannon, Putin protégé Alexandr Dugin, and other high-profile right-wing operatives are all adherents to this obscure yet powerful ideology.www.thenation.com
They are like antifa...standing in the way...are we sure they aren’t antifa? How can they send out hospital workers to the streets when we have a pandemic?It’s called a counter protest against your little fashy terrorists.
In the tweeted picture you posted...a healthcare worker is literally standing in front of a truck of people...who does that but antifa?Standing in the way of what? A literal traffic jam created by white supremacist right wing terrorists? Your pals caused the blockage in the first place. You’re hilarious. And Antifa has
never blocked hospitals or ambulances or exacerbated a public health crisis.
you know what they are doing right now? Making hand sanitIzer and masks for workers and the homeless. Figuring out ways to feed people and take care of each other.
Someone in this thread has a sign that says social distancing equals communism. I laughed so hard when I read that.It’s called a counter protest against your little fashy terrorists.
Comparing healthcare workers with antifa for defending what they are witnessing face to face with people who are ignorant of what is happening within the walls of the hospital is just as funny as reading the sign that compared social distancing with communism.They are like antifa...standing in the way...are we sure they aren’t antifa? How can they send out hospital workers to the streets when we have a pandemic?
I wouldn’t think healthcare workers would really stand in the middle of a protest like that, since all we hear is they are full up in the hospitals...its a wonder they had time to go out and disrupt traffic like that...and its really what antifa does...which made me think of them.Comparing healthcare workers with antifa for defending what they are witnessing face to face with people who are ignorant of what is happening within the walls of the hospital is just as funny as reading the sign that compared social distancing with communism.
This would be a really good opportunity for many people to read a couple of books.
This is an absurd thing to say. You are comparing peacefully standing in the street with the media clips of wearing masks, pushing over trash cans, and throwing things into the windows of Starbucks. What an absurd comparison.I wouldn’t think healthcare workers would really stand in the middle of a protest like that, since all we hear is they are full up in the hospitals...its a wonder they had time to go out and disrupt traffic like that...and its really what antifa does...which made me think of them.
There’s nothing peaceful about standing in the street and stopping people...This is an absurd thing to say. You are comparing peacefully standing in the street with the media clips of wearing masks, pushing over trash cans, and throwing things into the windows of Starbucks. What an absurd comparison.
Personally, I am not much of a fan of protest because they are prone to media manipulation. For many years, I have preferred to be a vigilante consumer and support people who are trying to get started as a competitor of major companies because monopolization is a major problem in this country rather than participating in some kind of protest.
So I didn't support antifa protests when they were taking place, but if we are going to compare groups with former protests, the ones in the trucks would be who I would compare with the antifa protests from four years ago. Not healthcare workers, but you're a Trump supporter, so I already know that you won't be able to see this situation any other way than left versus right.
What on earth are you talking about? The people were going to the state capital to protest the shelter in place, and the healthcare workers were in a counter-protest by standing in the street. They were standing there without weapons or threats of violence. Therefore, it is a peaceful protest.There’s nothing peaceful about standing in the street and stopping people...
No one is able to see the situation without their bias on.
If we protested by NOT going back when they tell us to unless they provide certain things.. we’d have leverage. But only if people were united on it - which clearly isn’t the caseWhat on earth are you talking about? The people were going to the state capital to protest the shelter in place, and the healthcare workers were in a counter-protest by standing in the street. They were standing there without weapons or threats of violence. Therefore, it is a peaceful protest.
However, I think the main problem is that many people have a very misguided understanding of protest. You don't just decide to make a sign and get a group of people together to take a stand and think that is going to independently make a difference. That isn't how it ever worked. When workers throughout history protested their working conditions, their employers actually needed them, so they were forced to respond to this complaint. There hasn't really been a protest in my lifetime that was comparable to this. These people going to the capital to protest shelter in place orders who are otherwise sitting at home because they were already deemed unessential by the state, what leverage do they really have to protest with?
Nothing, the capital doesn't need to respond to their protest at all because they need absolutely nothing from them at the moment, just like no one needed to respond to antifa's demonstration four years ago. They had no leverage with the institution they were protesting. It was completely empty way of putting themselves in the line of fire for every major media company to do what they wanted and get practically nothing in return outside of the world know that you don't like Trump and in this case, that you don't like the shelter in place. It is a complete waste of time to protest if you don't have some kind of leverage.
The only protest that might be useful is the one that might take place over personal protective equipment shortages because the healthcare workers are necessary, so if they protest, they might end up getting what they want in return. These people protesting the shelter in place, they have no leverage outside threats of violence or the potential to start some kind of civil war because they have absolutely nothing else that the capital wants in exchange for them disbanding their protest. This sort of ignorance towards the function of protest is what would lead to martial law before shelter in place orders ever would, which is another reason I am not a fan of modern empty protests like this.
Which is not bias. It is just a better understanding of the history of the function of protest. I'm not going to go out and waste my time protesting on either side of this issue. But, healthcare workers can actually demonstrate a real witness to the situation in contrast with the people running to the capital that just know what they have learned from watching Fox news and I appreciate this.