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illuminatimess

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The lack of PPE is just astounding. They keep saying they're expecting shipments but surely they should accept the help of companies willing to step in manufacture stuff?

„“Waiting for supplies from China, Turkey, Egypt is a waste of time, prices will escalate and ultimately run out," she said.“

Which means that the companies prefer to exploit cheap labour from these countries mentioned.
They better start producing masks themselves, it would improve their economy.
 

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The lack of PPE is just astounding. They keep saying they're expecting shipments but surely they should accept the help of companies willing to step in manufacture stuff?

Just a bit of trivia for you ....If you rearrange the letters of Matt Hancock you get That man cock.....I know....spooky.

I'm happy to stick my neck above the parapet here and make a forecast of future events. The reason why the msn are relentlessly pushing the lack of PPE narrative is because it will make the entire country aware that our brave NHS staff, on the front line, at gun point were put an unnecessary risk.

The relatives of all our dead care staff will be taking out multi million pound lawsuits against the health authority which after the huuuuge financial strain of the virus itself, will be blamed for bringing our NHS into a financial crisis......which will be rescued.....by some big company with money.....but that will come with a cost.....to us.

To me this entire psy-op is set up for this result and also to sweep one huge pile of dodgy shite under the carpet (corporate fruad, Brexit etc)
 

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It's not evil to want to get people back to work. Well, I guess it depends on your reasoning.

I think we have done what we can. It's definitely time to open up all but the dirtiest businesses. Like strip clubs, and bars should obviously be a no go. But everywhere else should have the capabilities to sanitize and limit occupancy in some way.

We should be honest about how the pandemic spread. I mean nobody is going on vacation to South Dakota. Nobody says hey, let's move our corporate headquarters to Alaska. Nobody is traveling to 95% of America PERIOD. Except for Truck drivers. So that's my theory on how it spread, truck drivers and strip clubs.

In any case, the simple fact is few businesses make an effort to sanitize anything. And the idea that breaking the current draconian guidelines will lead to the deaths of millions is completely absurd. Take me for example. I'm obviously not sick, nobody around me has gotten sick. So, therefore, I clearly pose no risk.

I'm really wondering about the transmission of this "virus" though. People are dying because their immune systems are overworked, I get all of that. But what about these victims' first line of defense? It seems to me like maybe there's some kind of body deficiency that could be to blame. Like the human mouth doesn't inhale disease like a vacuum. Nor can a disease grow legs, chase you down and fly into your nose.
It’s not the idea of going back to work itself that is evil.

It’s the fact that the people pushing for it won’t actually be going back to work in public themselves, that is. It’s the class stratification that this virus is exploiting that is evil.

If a country wants to go to war and it’s leader isn’t willing to fight that war themselves - that’s also evil.

Any situation where people are advocating/agitating to put other people’s lives at risks when they are not willing to risk their own is EVIL.
 

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It’s not the idea of going back to work itself that is evil.

It’s the fact that the people pushing for it won’t actually be going back to work in public themselves, that is. It’s the class stratification that this virus is exploiting that is evil.

If a country wants to go to war and it’s leader isn’t willing to fight that war themselves - that’s also evil.

Any situation where people are advocating/agitating to put other people’s lives at risks when they are not willing to risk their own is EVIL.

Right? It's easy for politicians to talk and suggest how to behave. Their situation can't be compared to normal people's lives. We work at schools, kindergartens, universities and so on. All they do is sit on their fat asses in their offices. They don't even have to meet since they can do videoconferences.
 

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Right? It's easy for politicians to talk and suggest how to behave. Their situation can't be compared to normal people's lives. We work at schools, kindergartens, universities and so on. All they do is sit on their fat asses in their offices. They don't even have to meet since they can do videoconferences.
Whenever the company I work for reopens it will only be us on the lowest rung expected to go back into public. Office staff, administration, and clinical supervisors will still be working from home and doing telehealth. We have been instructed to not even drop off our paperwork - just to email a copy of it. We had a conference call earlier in the week and a couple of my coworkers tried to press them on this but it was clear as day that WE will be expected to go out and generate income for them but THEY have no intention of even meeting us face to face at all for anything. At this point we are talking about unionizing because the blatant disregard for us has been made abundantly clear.
 

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https://www.rt.com/usa/486046-nytimes-contact-tracers-hypocrisy-china/


From: https://humansarefree.com/2020/04/who-is-controlling-the-u-s-response-to-covid-19-the-white-house-or-bill-gates.html

But thanks to the invoking of the PREP Act (Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness Act) for the first time in our nation’s history, the COVID19 vaccine is being fast-tracked without the usual testing and safety precautions, and will undoubtedly become the first mRNA-based vaccine to be tested in the U.S. and world population.


https://www.brighteon.com/b5e8e3f2-7fe1-438c-8ac3-a823b78cdfd3


Must see interview – Israeli News Live


Note: The Nephilim tales shouldn't be taken seriously, but the interview is well worth the watch
 

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Masking Logic?


The size of the coronavirus is reportedly 0.1 microns, while the openings in the filter of an N95 mask are said to be larger, at 0.3 microns.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/gas-mask2.htm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/f4ih6a
The biggest complaint about the higher quality N95 masks is that they make it so difficult to breathe they're either bypassed to let more air in or, for those with breathing problems, it's recommended they be avoided altogether.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/trouble-breathing-in-surgical-masks.742226/

https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/n95-masks-county-health-safe-advice-doctor-13399569.php

So why would anyone wear masks that can't keep out viruses, but do keep out the O2 needed to remain healthy and strong, so the body's own immune system can fight off toxins?

https://healthfully.com/breathing-exercises-to-increase-oxygen-rate-4336291.html
 

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Masking Logic?


The size of the coronavirus is reportedly 0.1 microns, while the openings in the filter of an N95 mask are said to be larger, at 0.3 microns.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/gas-mask2.htm

https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus/comments/f4ih6a
The biggest complaint about the higher quality N95 masks is that they make it so difficult to breathe they're either bypassed to let more air in or, for those with breathing problems, it's recommended they be avoided altogether.

https://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/trouble-breathing-in-surgical-masks.742226/

https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/n95-masks-county-health-safe-advice-doctor-13399569.php

So why would anyone wear masks that can't keep out viruses, but do keep out the O2 needed to remain healthy and strong, so the body's own immune system can fight off toxins?

https://healthfully.com/breathing-exercises-to-increase-oxygen-rate-4336291.html
Same with 5G. It effects the cells ability to take up oxygen.
 
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Iran FINISHES preparations to launch 5G internet: Minister 13/02/2020

Mohammad Javad Azari Jahromi said on Thursday that Iran had carried out ALL preparations needed for launching the 5G network.

So why would they wait for an entire year to launch the network that is ready to go right now, in early 2020, at the exact time of their outbreak? Yes, it does say later in the article that they don't plan to implement their first version of the 5G network until next year, but what exactly does that mean? Is that a reference to the planned global rollout of 5G in 2021? From other articles it's apparent they have been testing 5G since 2017, and do have it switched on in certain areas, with MCI (a service provider) referring to their service as “4.5G service”.

The logical answer to why Iran would hide the fact they have already have their 5G network up and running: to avoid further U.S. sanctions against them (Iran) and against the 5G companies (e.g. China's Huawei) who are helping them. Isn't that very likely the reason the U.S. had Canada do their dirty work, arresting Meng Wanzhou, Huawei’s CFO and the daughter of its founder, on trumped up charges (pun intended) in December of 2018?

The logical reason why Iran would be doing everything they could to get their 5G network up and running asap? For defensive military purposes, to counter the planned and imminent U.S. attack of Iran.
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From: https://www.lifewire.com/5g-availability-world-4156244

IRAN

There are a few mobile network operators in Iran, the largest of which is Mobile Telecommunication Company of Iran (MCI). MCI currently offers "4.5G" internet, which shows that they're on a path to providing 5G in Iran. They also signed an agreement with Nokia in 2017 to develop 5G technology in Iran.

Iran's second-largest provider, Irancell, provides both mobile and fixed wireless internet services. In late 2017, in collaboration with Ericsson, the two performed their first 5G test in Tehran and said that 5G will be available in Iran in 2020.

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From another of the previously linked articles (https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/coronavirus.7000/post-292221): http://techrasa.com/2017/09/24/irancell-tests-its-5g-network-with-the-help-of-ericsson-2/

Irancell signed a contract with Ericsson to develop 5G

In May 2017, Irancell signed a contract with Ericsson to get help for developing its 5G network. This time Irancell plans to launch the 5G network simultaneously with the rest of the world. “We are aiming to keep the pace with the international operators. Iran will not be left behind again,” said Irancell’s CEO, Alireza Dezfouli during the event at Irancell HQ in Tehran. Director of Ericsson for Iran and Turkey, Ralf Pichler, was also present at the event. He mentioned that 5G technology will be available by 2020 and it would become globally accessible a year later, according to Financial Tribune.

This is actually not the first time that Irancell tested out a 5G network. Last year, for the very first time, Irancell tested its 5G network which peaked at 1.2 Gbps and this year it peaked at 23.9 Gbps which is impressive.

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From the very well-documented: Guest, China, 5G, And The Wuhan Coronavirus: The Emperor’s New Virus @
https://jamesfetzer.org/2020/03/guest-china-5g-and-the-wuhan-coronavirus-the-emperors-new-virus/

The exception is Iran, which at present has 978 cases, and 54 deaths, is officially not implementing it, but very well may secretly be trialing it given the reason why on December 1, 2018, at the request of the US government, Meng Wanzhou — Huawei’s CFO and daughter of its founder — was arrested in Canada on allegations she participated in a conspiracy to defraud banks in connection with Iran sanctions violations, 19 was indeed because Huawei was working to sell their 5G technology to the Iranians. In fact, Iran — in a joint operation between Irancell and Ericsson — had started trialing the technology back in September of 2017. 20 In the article, titled “Irancell, Ericsson Test 5G Systems,” (2017) it is stated that the technology will be available by 2020 and become globally accessible a year later.

During the event at Irancell headquarters, the company’s CEO Alireza Dezfouli said “We are aiming to keep pace with the international operators. Iran will not be left behind again.

Furthermore, a number of articles in the media, have stated that Iran has carried out “preparations” and is ready to launch 5G. 21 22 23 Well, preparations usually include trialing. Hence, it is easy to believe that Iran already has the 5G infrastructure set up and they have been secretly trialing it.

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Actually it was, you just missed it. Please see the link below, as well as the excerpt above.

From another of the previously linked articles (https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/coronavirus.7000/post-292221): http://techrasa.com/2017/09/24/irancell-tests-its-5g-network-with-the-help-of-ericsson-2/


A plausible reason was provided for S. Korea, which you summarily dismissed so you can continue to peddle your own cointelpro b.s.



When, as anyone can see for themselves, no personal claim was ever made that 5G is "the main cause of this". That was you making that strawman argument up, so you could then beat it down. So no there have been, no lies personally told at any point in this discussion, which was to point out to you that the assumptions YOU are making and the conclusions YOU are drawing are simply not supported by the evidence you espouse.


Thank-you for admitting the truth you have no idea what COVID-19 really is (or what causes it), and that 5g is bad. Hopefully we can agree that we should avoid doing stupid and thoughtless things like blanketing the entire world in 5G microwave radiation without conducting further testing on its deleterious effects on ALL living things.

Thank-you for your opinion, but my objective here is completely different than yours. The sole/soul reason for anything that's personally posted is to help others cut through the nonsense, because there's much more on the line here than someone's baseless personal opinion.

It is possible to share with absolute certainty that drugs, vaccinations, chemotherapy and radiation are, in fact, TOXIC to the human body. We have been warned for thousands of years by our Creator against (witch) doctors and their potions/pharmacy (e.g. 2 Chron. 16:12, Gal. 5:19-21, so anyone at this late hour who thinks that an entire system built specifically to sell snake oil/potions/pharmacy to their unwitting(?) customers/victims is totally insane.

We are being poisoned with chemicals of every kind, in every conceivable way, on the orders of the most insane people in this lunatic asylum, who are temporarily running it because we buy into their nonsense. It is these poisons that are making people ill, and are killing thousands - soon to be billions (Rev. 6:8) - NOT some phantom virus which cannot be transferred from human to human or from animal to human under any circumstances other than via direct injection/vaccination.



These are the facts of this matter, regardless of whether they are accepted or not. And sharing this is in no way meant to insult or degrade the health care professionals who are working through this fabricated pandemic right now, because most of them are striving to help others, but simply haven't come to the realization they've been misled by the $1,400,000,000,000 a year pharmaceutical industry that has pushed the allopathic approach to medicine for the past two centuries.

Based on these facts, it is logical to consider two things:

1) qui bono (who benefits) - this entire pandemic is not what it appears to be, because even if we believe the made up numbers provided to us by the government mouthpiece mainstream media that we know lies on a regular basis, it doesn't qualify as a pandemic, nor does it merit this complete overkill response; and

2) what toxin is actually causing the illnesses and deaths that are being reported.

Applying all of the available known factual information, it is logical to start looking at both the motive of this situation, and its true cause or causes. The motives should be self-evident. The causes would necessarily include a list of all known toxins, particularly anything that was recently introduced.

A short list (not meant to be comprehensive):-

1) people have been injected with a chemical or biological poison, administered during this cold and flu season, i.e. the flu shot;
2) people have been exposed to some form of radiation, which can likewise manifest itself with flu like systems, i.e. 5G;
3) people have been poisoned in some other way that has yet to be discovered; and/or
4) people have finally reached a level of toxicity from all of the current forms of poisoning that their bodies can no longer take it, prompting their immune systems to eject the toxins in the natural manner (through coughing, fever and a running nose, etc.)

A short list of existing known poisons:-

1) GM anything;
2) any chemicals of any kind, regardless of how they're labeled, including:

a) fertilizers, pesticides, insecticides, fungicides, herbicides, defoliating agents, alar/daminozide, etc.;
b) fluoride, lithium and the rest of the chemicals added to and poisoning the public water systems;
c) all of the pharmaceutical chemicals run through human bodies which are subsequently flushed down the toilets poisoning the fish and sea creatures;
d) aluminum, barium, strontium, etc. which is being sprayed in the air to rain down on us and every other living organism;
e) growth harmones and vaccinations given to livestock, along with GM crops
f) food additives, including neurotoxins (like MSG and aspertame) and fake sugars like HFCS, sucralose, etc.;
g) countless other toxins too numerous to list here, including household cleaning products, soaps, shampoos, "skin care" products, make-up, hair gels, acetone, mineral spirits, MEK, toluene, etc.

Hopefully you can see why eliminating 5G from the list of possible causes is not only without merit, but is actually helping the establishment downplay its known detrimental effects on the health of both plant life and animals (including humans), as well as helping to hide its continued roll out and the military purposes of 5G, including its use for crowd control.

https://www.naturalblaze.com/2018/10/5g-network-uses-same-emf-waves-as-pentagon-crowd-control-system.html


you still have NO EVIDENCE, that Iran is currently running 5G, you have pointed out to them testing it, but no source that they are running it currently.

and no you did not deal with S. Korea, you just brushed it a side with an illogical excuse.

S. Korea leads the way in 5G technology and had 5 million subscribers at the time, and they have 230 deaths at this date, yet Iran who has ZERO subscribers, and have not officially rolled out 5G, have 4958 deaths. Yeah that makes tons of sense doesn't it.

What about Russia, who rolled out 5G back in 2019

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/09/01/hello-splinternet-huawei-deploys-5g-in-russia-with-putins-support/#3b32f29c199d

from above dated Sep 1 2019

It has been coming—and now it's here. Huawei 5G has gone live in Russia. This isn't the first 5G pilot to launch in Moscow, but it is the most notable.

5G was first piloted in Moscow in 2018, "during the World Cup," Lysenko told me,

So Russia who is also well ahead of Iran, with a full rollout has merely 273 deaths compared to Irans nearly 5000.

What about Israel ? They have 5G and a measley 150 dead.

UAE has 5G, they have 35 deaths.

Phillipines launches 5G June 2019

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-globe-huawei-tech/philippines-globe-telecoms-launches-5g-service-backed-by-huawei-equipment-idUSKCN1TL1YH

yet Phillipines has only 387 deaths


How about Saudi Arabia ? According to link below they rank #3 in the world and have been operating 5G since the middle of 2019.

https://english.alarabiya.net/en/business/technology/2020/02/23/Saudi-Arabia-ranks-third-globally-in-deployment-of-5G-technology-Ministry

Saudi Arabia ranks third globally and first in the Middle East, Europe and North Africa region in the deployment of 5G networks as the Kingdom installed more than 5,797 towers across 30 cities,

Saudi Arabia’s Ministry of Communications and Information first launched the commercial service of 5G technology during the second half of last year.


How many have died of "Coronavirus" in Saudi Arabia ? A total of 87

Denmark rolls out 5G in 2019 ?

https://www.verdict.co.uk/denmark-5g-network/

Denmark has 336 deaths

Finland launched 5G as far back as 2018 ?

https://venturebeat.com/2018/06/28/finlands-elisa-is-second-carrier-to-launch-worlds-first-5g-network/

Finland has 82 dead

Australia has had some 5G since 2018 ?

https://www.rcrwireless.com/20190910/5g/5g-australia-huawei-ban

Telstra and Optus, who rely on Ericsson or Nokia or a combination of both, are continuing to move forward with 5G rollouts. According to Ookla’s 5G map, Australia has 12 5G sites, two operated by Optus and 10 operated by Telstra. Telstra Telstra has been operating 5G-enabled sites across Australia since August 2018, making it the country’s first 5G-ready carrier. However, its commercial offers were not announced until May 2019. Now, the telecom has commercial 5G coverage in 10 regions across the country, including parts of Perth, Melbourne and the Gold Coast, with rollouts expected to increase to at least 35 cities over the next 12 months.

a grand total of 65 deaths in Australia.

Lets look at covid deaths in the US by city and state

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/peteraldhous/coronavirus-maps-charts-us-cities-deaths

highest death rate is Albany, Georgia. Are you telling me Albany, Georgia has more 5G than the rest of the US ?

Guess which city is conveniently missing from the TOP 50 CITIES IN THE US

Oh Los Angeles. In fact not a single city from California is amongst the top 50 hit cities in the US.

Are you now going to tell me that Los Angeles and California have less 5G than Albany, Georgia ?

California's low death rate wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that the Governor of California enacted safety measures well ahead of other states would it ? No it has to be the magical 5G which avoids Californians, and South Koreans, Russians, Canadians, but somehow attacks Iranians who dont even have 5G yet.

and funny in your list of possible causes, you dont even consider bio weapons, even though there is a long documented history of use of biological weapons, even though doctors and nurses seem to be dying at a high rate, which would suggest, that YES something is being passed on from the sick, but this absolutely isn't a possiblity in your crazy world, its 5G that picks and chooses who to kill. 5G likes to kill doctors right ?

there is no correlation between 5G and deaths by Covid-19. NONE. Even if there was correlation it still doesn't prove causation, but you dont even have correlation.

But have at it, continue to spin your tale.
 

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It's biologically impossible to transmit virus via 5G. And what about all these countries that have already installed 5G networks. Are they dying? The same fear appeared when they launched 4G. And I can't recall anything had happened. We're still alive.

Especially, if it was hazardous as y'all claim, why would they install it in the first place? Wouldn't they be affected as well? Or is it because they are lizards and immune to radiation?

I'm not denying that radiation isn't dangerous by any means, but apparently the radio waves are not strong enough to harm human beings. The entire world is actually under radiation, 24/7.

There is an independent fact-checking charity which issued 5G related to Wuhan and its outbreak of CoVid19: https://fullfact.org/online/wuhan-5g-coronavirus/

No wonder most people make fun of "conspiracy theorists".
 
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Lets look at deaths in China

Total is now 4632

Wuhan alone is 3342 deaths.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/asia/china-wuhan-coronavirus-death-toll-intl-hnk/index.html

So Wuhan accounts for roughly 72% of Chinas deaths

Is Wuhan the only city in China with 5G ?

Nope

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/01/tech/5g-china/index.html

the above article doesn't even mention Wuhan when talking about China's massive 5G rollout.

China just switched on the world's largest 5G network.
The country's three state-run telecom operators launched services for the next generation wireless technology on Friday.
China Mobile (CHL), China Telecom (CHA) and China Unicom (CHU) are all offering 5G plans that start at 128 yuan ($18) for 30 GB of data per month, giving Chinese internet users access to the ultra fast service.
5G commercial services are now available in 50 cities, including Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou and Shenzhen, according to Chinese state news agency Xinhua. In Shanghai, nearly 12,000 5G base stations have been activated to support 5G coverage across the city's key outdoor areas.


So the 5G just magically avoids most of China except for Wuhan ?

it magically avoids a lot of the US including the most populated state California and concentrates in New York and Louisiana ?

it magically avoids South Korea completly despite the massive 5G rollout there ?

sorry this is bullshit

sounds to me more like some kind of disease that is transmitted from person to person
 
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