You said you got banned from the Icke forum for they had an ideology. What was that ideology? It would help me to understand some things.
David Icke doesn't so much have a core ideology, he does cover a wild variety of topics, many of which I agree. However it is my opinion that he is working along with the international Fascist network and their agenda for a number of reasons. There are a number of viewpoints that if you strongly oppose you will become persona non grata. A few of them
1. He is staunchly pro-Brexit and has never once to my knowledge brought up any of the plethora of elitist links to the Brexit movement, including a strong Zionist agenda behind Brexit. Icke is supposedly anti-Zionist, yet never once goes into the Zionist network behind Brexit. A little strange I find.
2. He flirts with white supremacists IMO, because he is very anti-immigration, anti- "political correctness" which IMO is just a front to want to push racist ideas, he also named Tucker Carlson, a "proper journalist" (that was when I had enough of Icke) There are plenty of white supremacists on his site, and though he never fully embraces their positions, he leads them on and never fully calls them out. You can tell a lot about a person, by the company that follows them IMO. You dont follow somebody unless you agree with them.
3. He does nothing but attack "liberals" and usually makes them out to be the problem. No different than Alex Jones, though not as bad, but still very biased. Never once has this great "researcher" ever delved into topics like the Council for National Policy. Why would he when he is pushing an asset of theirs Tucker Carlson as a "proper journalist" or if he is pushing many of their right wing talking points. He basically just pushes a lot of old school John Birch Society propaganda, same as Alex Jones. Of course the 2 are also friends and agree on many things, although Icke publicly is against Trump, but again pushes many of his talking points.
Basically Icke is on board with the far right wing agenda, obviously not as open about it as many other propagandists. When you point this out, or try to point out that there is far more to this conspiracy than "liberal globalists" pushing "political correctness" and "mass immigration" his followers and moderators cannot stand it, and find ways to silence you, or ultimately ban you. I was far from the only person this was done to.
So, you hate the US with a passion and lean left and likely want socialism. There is a large boat for you to share here with your take.
typical propagandist response. I point out the legitmate history of the US which you cannot refute, and that means I "hate the US"
Yes I do lean left, but I think aspects of socialism and capitalism would form the best type of economic system. I'm more left than Bernie Sanders. Sanders isn't a socialist as many claim. I like the mix on this forum, much closer to what the Icke forum was like when I first joined it, before it got overrun with fascists.
But you do not have to get nasty and start with the Trump stuff and assume because I question your take on the coronavirus that I am the enemy.
you mean like how you got nasty and accused me of "hating the US" for doing nothing but knowing history ? I wasn't aware I got nasty with you, but if it came across like that my apologies.
Do you live in the US and have an Antifa outfit, maybe? Kidding, sort of.... but I never understand how people who hate their country stay here. It does not matter who is the president, you would feel the same. Unless you are one of those who thinks Bernie can save the world and forgive your debt.
Nope, I'm Canadian. I never knew if you made legitimate criticisms of something, that meant you "hated it" Thats kind of a silly conclusion don't you think ? Did you wonder why Trump voters "stayed in America" when Obama was President ?
Are you talking about modern-day or history? Look, if this forum turns 110% anti US and blames them for every issue in the world then there would be a hive mind and that would be boring. Some here want that hive mind and their hatred for the US keeps them so preoccupied that they are missing other happenings. My opi. I am not into the US being the world police and there has been much less war of late. The US is not perfect but it is not the sole reason for the world's problems. There were plenty of more countries trying to dominate the world before the US gained its power.
ancient, modern, and current history. The US has not changed much to be honest. I dont like hive minds and yes I'm not into a forum where everybody agrees, that's the beauty of a forum is to discuss and debate with people who disagree. There was a guy on the Icke forum who I disagreed with greatly, yet we had some good times debating. Anyways I think you need to get over the "hate the US" label for people who are simply calling out facts. Facts are not hatefull. Just because I think the US is the biggest problem (nationwise at least) it doesn't mean they are the only problem. Of course other countries are up to no good, but its just a fact that no other country has been as bad overall for mankind since at least WW2, that is just a fact. And this is not an attack on the people, but the government and elite structure.
So, maybe some who are having their say want to tell me the solution to the US? What do you think should be done and if the US is out of the way are you so naive as to think other powers will not take their place?
Well we already took a major turn away from "what should be done" in having Joe Biden as the nomination for the Democrats.
and no Bernie Sanders is no saviour, and I still think he serves the elites, but he is far better than anything the US has ever had, and that would be a small step in the right direction, but thats all over now. So the US is gonna keep doing what the US does, and you can call whoever has eyes to see a "hater"[/QUOTE]
