Coronavirus

Vixy

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2500 cases in sweden, 18 dead within 24 hours in Stockholm.

I was at the gym today for hours and at two grocery stores and at a builders store. People are scared sure but some/many are still outside acting like usual.
 

Vixy

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video circulating of rows of bodies in the streets of china, them completely suited up and dozens of trucks spraying the air, they arent telling us whats going on looks dire.
Could you link to one? Curious..

Btw, a friend called today. He sent his latest video because a friend of his and his son caught it and treated it with large doses of vitamin C, breathing in ozone and hydro peroxide. His son had an extreme cough and could breathe poorly and theyre both well now. Took a couple of days to come back.

 
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Maes17

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Thanks

thanks aero. Not looking for answers though so no sweat.

If I got him through years of actual solitary confinement I’ll get him through this. His shadow side definately met its match in me.. cuz I don’t play that shit, never have. I didn’t spend the last twenty years for that fucker to win now. I will bitch slap his projections lol.. and he knows it on every level. This will be a walk in the park for us compared to actual solitary. Atleast we have phones and physical contact inside our own walls.

But on a larger scale for people who’ve never experienced anything remotely like this.. I’m a lot less hopeful. This could go one of two ways.. and I’m very nervous it’s going to go in the wrong direction. Though unsure.. a life coaching thing I set up years ago and has been dormant ever since keeps getting hits unexpectedly so maybe it won’t turn out too bad if that’s an indication of people looking in the right places. Idk. I’m confused right now myself.
I hope you guys have peace. Like I said the other day, these type of situations are really foreign to me. Sorry if I come off as too positive all the time.

I have an optimistic approach to life and have prepped financially for situations.

Hopefully I can at least boost some morale around these parts.

You guys are my VC fam though. So always thinking positive thoughts and prayers to everyone here.
 

Maes17

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18 dead in 24 hours but lets keep going outside because everything is a hoax and will be alright yippy....Not.
Just control what you can man.
It sucks that there are assholes out there, but the more we do our part, humanity has a sad way of weeding these rude ones out.
 

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I hope you guys have peace. Like I said the other day, these type of situations are really foreign to me. Sorry if I come off as too positive all the time.

I have an optimistic approach to life and have prepped financially for situations.

Hopefully I can at least boost some morale around these parts.

You guys are my VC fam though. So always thinking positive thoughts and prayers to everyone here.
You should never be sorry for being positive. Positivity is a blessing.

We are doing okay so far. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers :) We will be fine though. I hope you are doing well. I hope everyone is. This is a bitter pill to swallow.
 

Maes17

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You should never be sorry for being positive. Positivity is a blessing.

We are doing okay so far. Thank you for your thoughts and prayers :) We will be fine though. I hope you are doing well. I hope everyone is. This is a bitter pill to swallow.
Stay strong.
All you guys.

And yes I’m fine. Mind is being creative with all this down time
 

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Fascinating!

To me the 150 year divide in the medical community between the allopathic "germ theory" view of disease vs. a naturopathic theory of the body regulating itself says a lot about the greater conflict between those with money/power and those without. It's amazing how far apart we can be at a fundamental level of defining disease.

It makes sense that a virus, which is our cells own type of antibody replicated from our unique DNA/RNA, would not be communicable between human and animal. This must extend to human to human contact. Someone else's DNA signal shouldn't be recognized by our own immune system.

Helminths, protozoa, and bacteria of different types can be contagious, infectious agents. In the case of the yearly influenza (virus) outbreak there is clearly an infectious bacteria being spread that causes a viral response. I totally understand that pollutants, toxins, radio waves, vaccines, etc. bombarding the individual can trigger viral activity, but there has to be another pathogen spreading that's producing the same effect in thousands of people at the same time. I've seen symptoms of influenza spread in a nursing home- people being ambulated to hospitals with multiple sick workers too.

If influenza and coronavirus are part our own internal mechanisms, there must be an underlying bacteria/pathogen we aren't looking hard enough for.
 

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Anything without factual proof would be a speculation no? Especially when half of it sounds like gibberish. Pandemics happen many times a century. Its not something new, the only reason we are seeing the effect more is that now we have the technology to see and check what is going on in the world. Also we understand the problem now more so we won't have like 10 million deaths just because nobody truly paid attention.

As far as the posts are concerned, i'd say the minute someone brings up "the radiation used to treat cancer is a carcinogen" you only need to study one more line to know whether they understand radiotherapy or not. And when you know they don't, you shut off your pc, put on some music and enjoy life away from the stupidity.
From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation...

Non-ionizing radiation in certain conditions also can cause damage to living organisms, such as burns. In 2011, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) of the World Health Organization (WHO) released a statement adding radio frequency electromagnetic fields (including microwave and millimeter waves) to their list of things which are possibly carcinogenic to humans.[10]

From: https://www.dherbs.com/articles/wellness-prevention/the-insanity-of-radiation-treatment/...

Radiation is dangerous because it kills (cooks) healthy cells in addition to unhealthy cells. You don’t cook cancerous cells. You reverse them via oxygenation and alkalinity. You can heal from cancer by saturating the body with enhanced oxygen (ozone) from an ozone machine and alkalinity by means of diet (raw foods, herbs, and alkaline water).

Known Side-Effects

Side-effects from radiation treatment largely depend on where your body is exposed to radiation. According to the National Cancer Institute, some of the known side-effects are:

  • Hair loss
  • Skin irritation
  • Fatigue
  • Dry mouth
  • Thickened saliva
  • Difficulty swallowing
  • Sore throat
  • Change in how things taste and smell
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Diarrhea
  • Bladder infection
  • Frequent urination
  • Bladder irritation
  • Sexual dysfunction

From: https://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness/

“Never before in history have humans been so cleverly induced to slowly exterminate themselves-- and happily pay big money for the privilege.” - Amy Worthington, www.wi-cancer.info
 

Maes17

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Fascinating!

To me the 150 year divide in the medical community between the allopathic "germ theory" view of disease vs. a naturopathic theory of the body regulating itself says a lot about the greater conflict between those with money/power and those without. It's amazing how far apart we can be at a fundamental level of defining disease.

It makes sense that a virus, which is our cells own type of antibody replicated from our unique DNA/RNA, would not be communicable between human and animal. This must extend to human to human contact. Someone else's DNA signal shouldn't be recognized by our own immune system.

Helminths, protozoa, and bacteria of different types can be contagious, infectious agents. In the case of the yearly influenza (virus) outbreak there is clearly an infectious bacteria being spread that causes a viral response. I totally understand that pollutants, toxins, radio waves, vaccines, etc. bombarding the individual can trigger viral activity, but there has to be another pathogen spreading that's producing the same effect in thousands of people at the same time. I've seen symptoms of influenza spread in a nursing home- people being ambulated to hospitals with multiple sick workers too.

If influenza and coronavirus are part our own internal mechanisms, there must be an underlying bacteria/pathogen we aren't looking hard enough for.
I’m guessing it’s an animal strain that finally successfully mutated with a human strain. Given the amount of pollution in the air along with thousands of years of adapting to environment. This particular pathogen has finally learned to thrive amongst humans
 

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March 25, 2020
  • German immunologist and toxicologist, Professor Stefan Hockertz, explains in a radio interview that Covid19 is no more dangerous than influenza (the flu), but that it is simply observed much more closely. More dangerous than the virus is the fear and panic created by the media and the „authoritarian reaction“ of many governments. Professor Hockertz also notes that most so-called „corona deaths“ have in fact died of other causes while also testing positive for coronaviruses. Hockertz believes that up to ten times more people than reported already had Covid19 but noticed nothing or very little.
  • The Argentinean virologist and biochemist Pablo Goldschmidt explains that Covid19 is no more dangerous than a bad cold or the flu. It is even possible that the Covid19 virus circulated already in earlier years, but wasn’t discovered because no one was looking for it. Dr. Goldschmidt speaks of a „global terror“ created by the media and politics. Every year, he says, three million newborns worldwide and 50,000 adults in the US alone die of pneumonia.
  • Professor Martin Exner, head of the Institute for Hygiene at the University of Bonn, explains in an interview why health personnel are currently under pressure, even though there has hardly been any increase in the number of patients in Germany so far: On the one hand, doctors and nurses who have tested positive have to be quarantined and are often hard to replace. On the other hand, nurses from neighbouring countries, who provide an important part of the care, are currently unable to enter the country due to closed borders.
  • Professor Julian Nida-Ruemelin, former German Minister of State for Culture and Professor of Ethics, points out that Covid19 poses no risk to the healthy general population and that extreme measures such as curfews are therefore not justified.
  • Using data from the cruise ship Diamond Princess, Stanford Professor John Ioannidis showed that the age-corrected lethality of Covid19 is between 0.025% and 0.625%, i.e. in the range of a strong cold or the flu. Moreover, a Japanese study showed that of all the test-positive passengers, and despite the high average age, 48% remained completely symptom-free; even among the 80-89 year olds 48% remained symptom-free, while among the 70 to 79 year olds it was an astounding 60% that developed no symptoms at all. This again raises the question whether the pre-existing diseases are not perhaps a more important factor than the virus itself. The Italian example has shown that 99% of test-positive deaths had one or more pre-existing conditions, and even among these, only 12% of the death certificates mentioned Covid19 as a causal factor.
 

manama

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From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation...

Non-ionizing radiation in certain conditions also can cause damage to living organisms, such as burns. In 2011, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) of the World Health Organization (WHO) released a statement adding radio frequency electromagnetic fields (including microwave and millimeter waves) to their list of things which are possibly carcinogenic to humans.[10]

From: https://www.dherbs.com/articles/wellness-prevention/the-insanity-of-radiation-treatment/...

Radiation is dangerous because it kills (cooks) healthy cells in addition to unhealthy cells. You don’t cook cancerous cells. You reverse them via oxygenation and alkalinity. You can heal from cancer by saturating the body with enhanced oxygen (ozone) from an ozone machine and alkalinity by means of diet (raw foods, herbs, and alkaline water).

Known Side-Effects

Side-effects from radiation treatment largely depend on where your body is exposed to radiation. According to the National Cancer Institute, some of the known side-effects are:

  • Hair loss
  • Skin irritation
  • Fatigue
  • Dry mouth
  • Thickened saliva
  • Difficulty swallowing
  • Sore throat
  • Change in how things taste and smell
  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Diarrhea
  • Bladder infection
  • Frequent urination
  • Bladder irritation
  • Sexual dysfunction

From: https://www.radiationdangers.com/5g/is-the-coronavirus-actually-microwave-illness/

“Never before in history have humans been so cleverly induced to slowly exterminate themselves-- and happily pay big money for the privilege.” - Amy Worthington, www.wi-cancer.info
->There are different types of radiation
->Different levels of exposure to radiation
->Time matters
->Radiotherapy has a chance of saving somebody, letting them have cancer doesn't.
->Benefit over sideeffects, id choose "frequent urination" over death any day.

Also wasn't WHO big pharma elites and everything on wikipedia was a lie? Why quote them now?

I believe I learned more actually studying Radiotherapy and studying cancer patients and the interaction of the radiation and chemotherapy to the cells than you learned in your 2 second of googling. The oncologists I know would agree.
People dear to me are cancer-free right now because of Radio and Chemotherapy.

Feel free to give us an alternative cure for cancer.
 
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March 25, 2020
  • German immunologist and toxicologist, Professor Stefan Hockertz, explains in a radio interview that Covid19 is no more dangerous than influenza (the flu), but that it is simply observed much more closely. More dangerous than the virus is the fear and panic created by the media and the „authoritarian reaction“ of many governments. Professor Hockertz also notes that most so-called „corona deaths“ have in fact died of other causes while also testing positive for coronaviruses. Hockertz believes that up to ten times more people than reported already had Covid19 but noticed nothing or very little.
  • The Argentinean virologist and biochemist Pablo Goldschmidt explains that Covid19 is no more dangerous than a bad cold or the flu. It is even possible that the Covid19 virus circulated already in earlier years, but wasn’t discovered because no one was looking for it. Dr. Goldschmidt speaks of a „global terror“ created by the media and politics. Every year, he says, three million newborns worldwide and 50,000 adults in the US alone die of pneumonia.
  • Professor Martin Exner, head of the Institute for Hygiene at the University of Bonn, explains in an interview why health personnel are currently under pressure, even though there has hardly been any increase in the number of patients in Germany so far: On the one hand, doctors and nurses who have tested positive have to be quarantined and are often hard to replace. On the other hand, nurses from neighbouring countries, who provide an important part of the care, are currently unable to enter the country due to closed borders.
  • Professor Julian Nida-Ruemelin, former German Minister of State for Culture and Professor of Ethics, points out that Covid19 poses no risk to the healthy general population and that extreme measures such as curfews are therefore not justified.
  • Using data from the cruise ship Diamond Princess, Stanford Professor John Ioannidis showed that the age-corrected lethality of Covid19 is between 0.025% and 0.625%, i.e. in the range of a strong cold or the flu. Moreover, a Japanese study showed that of all the test-positive passengers, and despite the high average age, 48% remained completely symptom-free; even among the 80-89 year olds 48% remained symptom-free, while among the 70 to 79 year olds it was an astounding 60% that developed no symptoms at all. This again raises the question whether the pre-existing diseases are not perhaps a more important factor than the virus itself. The Italian example has shown that 99% of test-positive deaths had one or more pre-existing conditions, and even among these, only 12% of the death certificates mentioned Covid19 as a causal factor.
This is excellent information - thanks! I'll copy and paste it, provided the links will work in the future, hopefully. In the last point, there's a Telegraph article that makes a poignant statement:

"But Prof Ricciardi added that Italy’s death rate may also appear high because of how doctors record fatalities."

The article goes on to describe that many victims of the virus were older and had underlying health issues.
 
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Doesn't Italy have the 2nd oldest population in the world? I feel like I read that somewhere...

If so, it could also explain how detrimental the virus had hit them.
I'm not sure but you might be right, Haich. It would also explain the Diamond Princess being affected, as it states most of the population on that ship was also elderly.
 

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We also need to stress that the vast majority of fatalities are of people who had comprised immune systems...that's not to say people who were healthy didn't die, but these numbers being thrown out don't tell the full story...

For instance there was an 18 year that died I think earlier this week, but a lot of news outlets failed to mention he had an underlying medical condition.


On top of that, this was the statement given by the officials at the hospital:

Professor Kiran Patel, Chief Medical Officer for University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire NHS Trust said:

“We can confirm that sadly a patient who was being treated for significant underlying health issues has passed away at University Hospital, Coventry. They had also tested for Covid-19 on the day before they died but this was not linked to their reason for dying.

This was not reported properly at all in mainstream media...
 
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