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[Lisa]

Christians are still waiting for the Antichrist... although he has been on the world stage for almost seven years already.


The Bible informs the berean who the Antichrist is.

See Daniel 9 is a a timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist.


If you don't understand the timeline in Daniel 9... then you don't know when the Christ and the Antichrist would come.

You can guess... but that looks kinda ridiculous when God has revealed it in the Bible.

‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.​

When has the abomination of desolation taken place?

 

[TokiEl]

‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.​

The apostasy that is the falling away from faith has been accelerating for decades... and the man of sin is revealed for the whole world to see on TV. He is of course the opulent pope who for over a century according to catholic dogma has been infallible like God.

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Is this particular pope anticristian ? Duh !

Is this pope the Antichrist ? Yes the timeline in Daniel 9 proves that !

When has the abomination of desolation taken place?

Well what is the abomination of desolation ?

Jesus told the jews in Luke 21:20-21 (which is the parallell passage of Matthew 24:15-16 and Mark 13:14) that when they see Jerusalem surrounded by armies then they should know that its desolation has come and so flee to the mountains.

Josephus wrote about the jewish civil war just before Rome invaded Jerusalem. And according to him stone throwing catapults were used on the Temple grounds to throw stones down on the city. That's an abomination on holy ground... causing desolation.

So that might be what Jesus ment.

 

[Lisa]

The apostasy that is the falling away from faith has been accelerating for decades... and the man of sin is revealed for the whole world to see on TV. He is of course the opulent pope who for over a century according to catholic dogma has been infallible like God.

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Is this particular pope anticristian ? Duh !

Is this pope the Antichrist ? Yes the timeline in Daniel 9 proves that !

Possibly...but the man of sin hasn’t been revealed in the temple calling himself God. We can think its the pope..but until the man of sin goes into the temple..its only speculation.

All pope’s are anti Christian...

Well what is the abomination of desolation ?

Jesus told the jews in Luke 21:20-21 (which is the parallell passage of Matthew 24:15-16 and Mark 13:14) that when they see Jerusalem surrounded by armies then they should know that its desolation has come and so flee to the mountains.

Josephus wrote about the jewish civil war just before Rome invaded Jerusalem. And according to him stone throwing catapults were used on the Temple grounds to throw stones down on the city. That's an abomination on holy ground... causing desolation.

So that might be what Jesus ment.

This is the abomination of desolation..its a certain event that takes place and that even has yet to take place....
who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

No, what Josephus wrote about isn’t the abomination of desolation, its a specific event that hasn’t happened yet.

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

Apostasia can equally be translated “falling away” or “departure”. The interpretation of the passage changes significantly depending on the word you use here.

 

[TokiEl]

Possibly...but the man of sin hasn’t been revealed in the temple calling himself God. We can think its the pope..but until the man of sin goes into the temple..its only speculation.

You don't understand.

The timeline in Daniel 9 proves that this pope is the Antichrist.


The papacy is the antichristian agency which was revealed to the whole world with the modern technology of television... coinciding with the apostasy that is the falling away from true faith (which has accelrated since the introduction of TV).

Catholic dogma has since Vatican 1 stated that the pope is infallible. That is the prerogative of God... and so the opulent pope is like God in the temple of God.

This is the abomination of desolation..its a certain event that takes place and that even has yet to take place....
who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

This is fulfilled by the papacy... or opulent popery.

And the timeline in Daniel 9 demands that this pope is the Antichrist... so you can all stop guessing and just shut up.

No, what Josephus wrote about isn’t the abomination of desolation, its a specific event that hasn’t happened yet.

Yes it was... i just decided this was it.

 

[TokiEl]

Apostasia can equally be translated “falling away” or “departure”. The interpretation of the passage changes significantly depending on the word you use here.

Absolutely not.

It's a falling away from faith... and not a departure or rapture of christians.

 

[Lisa]

You don't understand.

The timeline in Daniel 9 proves that this pope is the Antichrist.


The papacy is the antichristian agency which was revealed to the whole world with the modern technology of television... coinciding with the apostasy that is the falling away from true faith (which has accelrated since the introduction of TV).

Catholic dogma has since Vatican 1 stated that the pope is infallible. That is the prerogative of God... and so the opulent pope is like God in the temple of God.

The pope hasn’t stood in the temple declaring himself god though...so it can’t be him. You have to have the whole counsel of God, ya know. Part of the antichrist’s gig is standing in the holy place saying blasphemous things and proclaiming himself god. The pope hasn’t done that because there is no temple so it seems you are the one that doesn’t understand.

i just decided this was it.

Exactly....

 

[TokiEl]

The pope hasn’t stood in the temple declaring himself god though...so it can’t be him. You have to have the whole counsel of God, ya know. Part of the antichrist’s gig is standing in the holy place saying blasphemous things and proclaiming himself god. The pope hasn’t done that because there is no temple so it seems you are the one that doesn’t understand.

You still don't understand.

Daniel 9 is a precise timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist.

One can actually calculate when the Christ and the Antichrist would come.

In other words there is no guesswork required as to when the Christ and the Antichrist would come... since Gabriel revealed it to Daniel in the form of a prophetic timeline.

This timeline precisely points to when the Christ would come... and when the Antichrist would come as well.


Catholic dogma state that the pope is infallible... and that is a prerogative of God.

So the pope acts as if God.


You can of course wait... on a red heifer and a rebuilt temple and a person therein claiming to be God.

I'm just saying that won't happen.

 

[Lisa]

You still don't understand.

Daniel 9 is a precise timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist.

One can actually calculate when the Christ and the Antichrist would come.

In other words there is no guesswork required as to when the Christ and the Antichrist would come... since Gabriel revealed it to Daniel in the form of a prophetic timeline.

This timeline precisely points to when the Christ would come... and when the Antichrist would come as well.


Catholic dogma state that the pope is infallible... and that is a prerogative of God.

So the pope acts as if God.


You can of course wait... on a red heifer and a rebuilt temple and a person therein claiming to be God.

I'm just saying that won't happen.

Are you forgetting this verse though...what temple has the pope sat in and proclaimed himself God?

‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
And the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
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When has the pope made a firm covenant with many for one week? When has he put a stop to grain offering and sacrifice? Is there anyone doing that kind of sacrifice in the world today? Is there in fact a faction who want to rebuild a temple for the antichrist to walk into? Are they also trying to restart sacrifices and are actively looking for the one part they don’t have yet...a spotless red heifer? Yep, they are and yep they have everything but that one part. Until they get that one part they really can’t do the sacrifices right, so why build a temple when you can’t get it right. Bit...once they have that last part...ya, they’ll want to rebuild the temple they have worked years on to bring to fruition.

Daniel‬ ‭9:27‬ ‭
And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolate, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate.
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[TokiEl]

Are you forgetting this verse though...what temple has the pope sat in and proclaimed himself God?

‭‭2 Thessalonians‬ ‭2:3-4‬ ‭
And the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.​

It's not possible that this is an actual temple of God... since God is not in it.

Where God is not... there is no temple of God.

I don't know if you have the mental capacity to understand this ?


Rather it's a figure of speech that the man of sin will act as if God in the temple of God.

This probably went way over your head as well ?

When has the pope made a firm covenant with many for one week?

The pope confirmed the Millennium Development Goals with the Sustainable Development Goals in the United Nations on Sept 25 2015. Right on Daniel's timeline.

When has he put a stop to grain offering and sacrifice?

Well what does this mean ?

It can't mean the ancient temple sacrifices... since Jesus is the sufficient sacrifice for sins.


I still love you Lisa.

 

[Lisa]

It's not possible that this is an actual temple of God... since God is not in it.

Where God is not... there is no temple of God.

I don't know if you have the mental capacity to understand this ?


Rather it's a figure of speech that the man of sin will act as if God in the temple of God.

This probably went way over your head as well ?

Why can’t it be an actual temple? Seriously? If the Jews build a temple, being God’s chosen people..doesn’t that make it a temple to God? Isn’t that what lures the antichrist to it? Otherwise, why go?

I have the mental capacity to understand a great many things, actually.

The pope confirmed the Millennium Development Goals with the Sustainable Development Goals in the United Nations on Sept 25 2015. Right on Daniel's timeline.

Yet, that isn’t the agreement. The agreement allows for a temple. How do we know this? Because in the middle of the agreement the anti cuts off the sacrificing in the temple and then he walks into the temple proclaiming he is God. Its the agreement that allows for the temple and the sacrificing to start that is the start of the last 7 years..it doesn’t have anything to do with the Millennium development goals but with the building of a temple...or at least that‘s a big part of it.

Well what does this mean ?

It can't mean the ancient temple sacrifices... since Jesus is the sufficient sacrifice for sins.

They don’t know that Jesus is the sacrifice for sins though, they don’t even acknowledge Jesus right now..which makes it perfect for them to want to rebuild a temple...to reconnect with their God that way.

I still love you Lisa.

You should! Lol!

 

[Red Sky at Morning]

I just watched this little film and it put me in mind of a book I read by Chuck Missler.



The whole idea does sound “preposterous” as things like that simply don’t happen. The dilemma is that if it does, Christians won’t be here to discuss it all with, and those that remain will quickly be offered alternative explantations! The dilemma seems to be “sound crazy” and warn of the possibility, or not bother saying at all...

 

[Lisa]

I just watched this little film and it put me in mind of a book I read by Chuck Missler.

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The whole idea does sound “preposterous” as things like that simply don’t happen. The dilemma is that if it does, Christians won’t be here to discuss it all with, and those that remain will quickly be offered alternative explantations! The dilemma seems to be “sound crazy” and warn of the possibility, or not bother saying at all...

What about this part?...No one seems to mention that this happens in the sky...people will know there is a God when we are taken.

Matthew‬ ‭24:30-31‬ ‭
And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.​

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[TokiEl]

Why can’t it be an actual temple? Seriously? If the Jews build a temple, being God’s chosen people..doesn’t that make it a temple to God? Isn’t that what lures the antichrist to it? Otherwise, why go?

It can't be a temple of God since God is not in it.

Yet, that isn’t the agreement. The agreement allows for a temple. How do we know this? Because in the middle of the agreement the anti cuts off the sacrificing in the temple and then he walks into the temple proclaiming he is God. Its the agreement that allows for the temple and the sacrificing to start that is the start of the last 7 years..it doesn’t have anything to do with the Millennium development goals but with the building of a temple...or at least that‘s a big part of it.

You have made up your mind that a temple must be built and the temple sacrifices reinstituted... so that the antichrist can stop those temple sacrifices in the midde of Daniel's 70th week... and walk into the temple and proclaim himself God in the temple of God.

But where God is not cannot be called the temple of God.

Besides Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks is pegged to a timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist. And that timeline demands that the Christ come in 33 AD and that the Antichrist come in 2015.

 

[Lisa]

It can't be a temple of God since God is not in it.




You have made up your mind that a temple must be built and the temple sacrifices reinstituted... so that the antichrist can stop those temple sacrifices in the midde of Daniel's 70th week... and walk into the temple and proclaim himself God in the temple of God.

But where God is not cannot be called the temple of God.

Besides Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks is pegged to a timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist. And that timeline demands that the Christ come in 33 AD and that the Antichrist come in 2015.

If His chosen people make a temple to Him isn’t that a temple to God? If it didn’t matter the antichrist wouldn’t bother walking into it and proclaiming himself god there.

I didn’t make up my mind...scripture says a temple will be rebuilt because sacrifices will be reinstated for a set time...7 years..and in the middle of that time 3.5 years they will be stopped and the antichrist will walk into the temple proclaiming himself god...when that happens the Jews need to run because some really bad things are gonna happen to them. So..I would say God is a part of this situation.

Obviously it wasn’t 2015...there is no new temple.

 

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[TokiEl]

If His chosen people make a temple to Him isn’t that a temple to God? If it didn’t matter the antichrist wouldn’t bother walking into it and proclaiming himself god there.

You think the jews will build a temple in Jerusalem so that the glory of God can come inside it and Him and the jews can continue the ancient animal sacrifices until Antichrist come and put a stop to that and proclaim himself God ?

So God and the jews together can make a mockery of the sufficient sacrifice of Jesus Christ ?

And the Antichrist putting and end to the bloody animal sacrifices after 3.5 years and throws God out of the temple ?


Are you a millennial ? Or are you just a twat ?

I didn’t make up my mind...scripture says a temple will be rebuilt because sacrifices will be reinstated for a set time...7 years..and in the middle of that time 3.5 years they will be stopped and the antichrist will walk into the temple proclaiming himself god...when that happens the Jews need to run because some really bad things are gonna happen to them. So..I would say God is a part of this situation.

Obviously it wasn’t 2015...there is no new temple.

No you don't understand Daniel's 70 weeks prophecy.

It's a timeline until the Christ and the Antichrist. It's a countdown... it's math.


And even when the prince of the people who destroyed the city and the sanctuary actually fulfilled the prophecy right on Daniel's timeline... you twats don't see it !

Instead you keep obfuscating the truths of the Spirit as modern day pharisees.


What is it that will not be forgiven you ?

 

[Lisa]

You think the jews will build a temple in Jerusalem so that the glory of God can come inside it and Him and the jews can continue the ancient animal sacrifices until Antichrist come and put a stop to that and proclaim himself God ?

So God and the jews together can make a mockery of the sufficient sacrifice of Jesus Christ ?

And the Antichrist putting and end to the bloody animal sacrifices after 3.5 years and throws God out of the temple ?


Are you a millennial ? Or are you just a twat ?

No, I think the Jews are going to build a temple so they can sacrifice because they think in doing that they will be back with God. And, yes, I think they will build another temple, start sacrifices for 7 years and the anti will put a stop to the sacrifices after 3.5 years and proclaim himself God in the Holy of Holies. Which then will turn out really bad for the Jews...except for the ones who escape.

The Jews don’t believe Jesus is their messiah..so they don’t know any better do they?

Not a twat or a millennial..and not a boomer either..lol Jess..just someone who reads the Bible and studies the end times.

 

[TokiEl]

No, I think the Jews are going to build a temple so they can sacrifice because they think in doing that they will be back with God. And, yes, I think they will build another temple, start sacrifices for 7 years and the anti will put a stop to the sacrifices after 3.5 years and proclaim himself God in the Holy of Holies. Which then will turn out really bad for the Jews...except for the ones who escape.

The Jews don’t believe Jesus is their messiah..so they don’t know any better do they?

Not a twat or a millennial..and not a boomer either..lol Jess..just someone who reads the Bible and studies the end times.

Listen Lisa.

I am a twat too so it's ok.


Joke aside... God will not let the jews mock Jesus by building a temple and reinstitute animal sacrifices.

You have just misinterpreted bible verses... which have become somewhat of a holy cow to you.

It's just prejudice.

 

[rainerann]

" And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities." Revelation 18:2-5

It is starting to become more clear by the day who this verse is talking about.

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