Is LGBT+ acceptance campaign starting to backfire?

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The following opinion piece is from a transsexual who was recently not selected for the Handball Australia team. Several sentences are very revealing.



.... I can confirm that yes, I was left out of the team for the World Championships because there was a group of players within the team, supported by the team manager, who did not want me showering or using the change rooms before or after the game. This was in turn the sole reason given to me by our coach for my non selection....

I later had it confirmed by someone else within Handball Australia who had done some digging that: “From everything I’ve been told, you’ve basically not been picked because you’re not liked.” And the reason I’m not liked is because I told our manager, and by extension those players, exactly where he and they could go in trying to tell me where I could change and shower.....



Same person. How many biological women are 6 feet 2 and 220 pounds (almost 100 kgs)?

 

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The following opinion piece is from a transsexual who was recently not selected for the Handball Australia team. Several sentences are very revealing.



Same person. How many biological women are 6 feet 2 and 220 pounds (almost 100 kgs)?

...I've met exactly one in my life (prob closer to 6' 10" - believe it or not).... and she would never have been competitive in any sport whatsoever....
...she seemed to be almost 'inhibited' by the awkward awareness that she was very unusually taller/bigger than any other female around her....
...extraordinarily 'soft' and she exhibited very overtly gentle/kind female mannerisms... very 'jarring' (her size)... but 'reassuring' (her soft/gentle/feminine nature) at the same time...
...this "men pretending to be women" crap has got to end.... it's madness....
...I'm glad that flaming jerk was excluded.....
...he's a freak who just wants to shower with the girls.... and show-off his junk....:mad:
 
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This has already happened with the cotton ceiling where lesbians (again, very funny how it's always women suffering the brunt of this ludicrousy as this was never a problem for gay men) who would not consider (usually pre or non-op) transwomen as romantic or sexual partners were accused of transphobia and invalidating their gender identity. As though other people need to use their sexuality to validate the identity of others. It's ridiculous and it's very clear that this whole movement is probably going to cannibalize itself thanks to the T squad.
 

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The LGBTQ plus community has never had it better. But they want more. Some in the community want to rewrite common sense and will not stop until they wreck what the world has deemed normal since the dawn of humankind.

It is all part of the everything goes, upside down agenda and while it may not go away, there are still people who are insulted by the greediness of always wanting to tear the boundaries down even more. And yes, this PC culture ends eating its own. By all means, partake in the madness if you want to but do not expect others to lose all of their common sense biological realities.
 

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The LGBTQ plus community has never had it better. But they want more. Some in the community want to rewrite common sense and will not stop until they wreck what the world has deemed normal since the dawn of humankind.

It is all part of the everything goes, upside down agenda and while it may not go away, there are still people who are insulted by the greediness of always wanting to tear the boundaries down even more. And yes, this PC culture ends eating its own. By all means, partake in the madness if you want to but do not expect others to lose all of their common sense biological realities.
I think the problem is that they think they need everyone’s approval to knock out the disapproval they feel deep down. It won’t happen, their consciences prove that God has put his law into our hearts.
 

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This has already happened with the cotton ceiling where lesbians (again, very funny how it's always women suffering the brunt of this ludicrousy as this was never a problem for gay men) who would not consider (usually pre or non-op) transwomen as romantic or sexual partners were accused of transphobia and invalidating their gender identity. As though other people need to use their sexuality to validate the identity of others. It's ridiculous and it's very clear that this whole movement is probably going to cannibalize itself thanks to the T squad.
It is stories like that which make me think that some transwomen who never have the final ""chop"" and who claim to be gay as well are convincing themselves to be transexual. Somehow it is more socially acceptable to be (male to female) transexual than transvestite.

They get to dress up 24/7 and people are not allowed to snigger behind their backs either. No responsibility, victim card can be pulled at every opportunity, and social justice warriors demand that the rest of us call them 'brave".

Now they are even trying to make gay women pretend they are really women in the bedroom! On this matter I certainly have my sympathy for the lesbian. There is no way you can pretend a penis is a really a vagina. Surely the male smell would still there unless the transsexual is on all the medicines and hormones they take?

I don't have the impression that female to men transsexuals do it for sexual reasons though. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 

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It is stories like that which make me think that some transwomen who never have the final ""chop"" and who claim to be gay as well are convincing themselves to be transexual. Somehow it is more socially acceptable to be (male to female) transexual than transvestite.

They get to dress up 24/7 and people are not allowed to snigger behind their backs either. No responsibility, victim card can be pulled at every opportunity, and social justice warriors demand that the rest of us call them 'brave".

Now they are even trying to make gay women pretend they are really women in the bedroom! On this matter I certainly have my sympathy for the lesbian. There is no way you can pretend a penis is a really a vagina. Surely the male smell would still there unless the transsexual is on all the medicines and hormones they take?

I don't have the impression that female to men transsexuals do it for sexual reasons though. Please correct me if I am wrong.
I think its the new emo fad...or something like that and I agree, they like it because you can’t do anything but support them or your life will be hell.

I thought that the reason women like to be transsexual was because they had some sort of sexual harassment or sexual abuse in their background and they think by saying they are men they will be safe.
 

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It is stories like that which make me think that some transwomen who never have the final ""chop"" and who claim to be gay as well are convincing themselves to be transexual. Somehow it is more socially acceptable to be (male to female) transexual than transvestite.

They get to dress up 24/7 and people are not allowed to snigger behind their backs either. No responsibility, victim card can be pulled at every opportunity, and social justice warriors demand that the rest of us call them 'brave".

Now they are even trying to make gay women pretend they are really women in the bedroom! On this matter I certainly have my sympathy for the lesbian. There is no way you can pretend a penis is a really a vagina. Surely the male smell would still there unless the transsexual is on all the medicines and hormones they take?

I don't have the impression that female to men transsexuals do it for sexual reasons though. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Completely agree with some men living out their cross-dressing fantasies easier as transsexuals. Which is a real slap in the face to those truly living with GID but fetishists will fetishize. I used to have a "live and let live" mentality toward them until they started trying to gain the monopoly on womanhood moreso than actual real women.

Now with transmen, this does not happen. Most of them from what I can tell and have seen, actually live "stealth". As in they do not disclose their trans status with people unless they have to. This is in reference to friends, colleagues etc. Not partners. They tend to be a lot quieter and more reserved and do not intrude on men's spaces and spheres. Which is why I, 9 times out of 10, have a lot more respect for them. And no, you're right, the vast majority do not transition for the sake of some twisted sexual gratification. Then again, there isn't a community of straight women fetishizing them as in the case of the reverse. If you want to see how they get treated when they speak up against their m2f overlords, this article about Laith Ashley's commentary on transwomen dominating trans visibility is very telling.


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For the sake of respect and because Laith is quite a nice person and actually passes well as male, I'll use "him" and "he".

So Laith was accused of being transphobic toward transwomen because he put their dominating and loud temperant on their biologically male social conditioning. While he said transmen were raised as women and thus taught to be more docile and quiet. A fair point actually. And now he gets accused of heterosexual male privilege by trans activists -Laith, a biological woman who grew up as a female and a lesbian at that. Accused of straight male privilege and misogyny. While the transwomen in question are painted as victims of wait for it . . . The same oppression biological women have undergone as victims of misogyny. You couldn't make this stuff up. This movement makes a mockery of women's rights too because why would should rights be given based on gender as a factor of discrimination when it's so arbitrary? That implies there is no innate oppression or privilege because a biological woman raised as a woman has male privilege and a biological man is a victim of misogyny despite being raised as a man. It makes my head hurt.
 

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Completely agree with some men living out their cross-dressing fantasies easier as transsexuals. Which is a real slap in the face to those truly living with GID but fetishists will fetishize. I used to have a "live and let live" mentality toward them until they started trying to gain the monopoly on womanhood moreso than actual real women.

Now with transmen, this does not happen. Most of them from what I can tell and have seen, actually live "stealth". As in they do not disclose their trans status with people unless they have to. This is in reference to friends, colleagues etc. Not partners. They tend to be a lot quieter and more reserved and do not intrude on men's spaces and spheres. Which is why I, 9 times out of 10, have a lot more respect for them. And no, you're right, the vast majority do not transition for the sake of some twisted sexual gratification. Then again, there isn't a community of straight women fetishizing them as in the case of the reverse. If you want to see how they get treated when they speak up against their m2f overlords, this article about Laith Ashley's commentary on transwomen dominating trans visibility is very telling.


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For the sake of respect and because Laith is quite a nice person and actually passes well as male, I'll use "him" and "he".

So Laith was accused of being transphobic toward transwomen because he put their dominating and loud temperant on their biologically male social conditioning. While he said transmen were raised as women and thus taught to be more docile and quiet. A fair point actually. And now he gets accused of heterosexual male privilege by trans activists -Laith, a biological woman who grew up as a female and a lesbian at that. Accused of straight male privilege and misogyny. While the transwomen in question are painted as victims of wait for it . . . The same oppression biological women have undergone as victims of misogyny. You couldn't make this stuff up. This movement makes a mockery of women's rights too because why would should rights be given based on gender as a factor of discrimination when it's so arbitrary? That implies there is no innate oppression or privilege because a biological woman raised as a woman has male privilege and a biological man is a victim of misogyny despite being raised as a man. It makes my head hurt.
What really made my head hurt was an article link left by a reader of that tweet above. https://aeon.co/amp/essays/the-idea-that-gender-is-a-spectrum-is-a-new-gender-prison?__twitter_impression=true
Basically the message I got was IF sexuality is a continuum, with extreme female personality/ on one side and extreme male personality/ tendencies on the other then the vast majority of people can identity as non-binary according to its correct definition.

She suggested that Non-binary people are attention seekers basically, making sure they really stand out in the crowd. I agree with that completely.

The men look especially bizarre, trying to blend both traditional male clothing etc and female clothing in the most discordant way possible.
 

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What really made my head hurt was an article link left by a reader of that tweet above. https://aeon.co/amp/essays/the-idea-that-gender-is-a-spectrum-is-a-new-gender-prison?__twitter_impression=true
Basically the message I got was IF sexuality is a continuum, with extreme female personality/ on one side and extreme male personality/ tendencies on the other then the vast majority of people can identity as non-binary according to its correct definition.

She suggested that Non-binary people are attention seekers basically, making sure they really stand out in the crowd. I agree with that completely.
Same. The funny thing is that the "gender and sexuality is on a spectrum" argument invalidates the sexual preferences of gays, lesbians and bisexuals (heteros too but no one cares about that). It calls for an amendment of the definition of "homosexual" and sexual attraction in the first place. It even invalidates trans people -who, despite gender being a social construct, lock themselves into the most rigid gender roles possible where they literally alter their physicality to align their bodies to them. Non-binaries . . . They're usually attention-seekers and as a university student our campus has many of them so I can confirm that to be true. Although I think with all the social engineering and programming there are a lot of brainwashed, confused people as well who genuinely believe screwing the gender binary is a progressive service to man (without excluding the femme-bodied, trans and non-binary collective) kind.

The men look especially bizarre, trying to blend both traditional male clothing etc and female clothing in the most discordant way possible.
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. . . Just . . . Why?
 

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I think its the new emo fad...or something like that and I agree, they like it because you can’t do anything but support them or your life will be hell.

I thought that the reason women like to be transsexual was because they had some sort of sexual harassment or sexual abuse in their background and they think by saying they are men they will be safe.
I also wonder if girls who don't fit into traditional stereotypes now have a new stereotype created.
If you aren't a girly-girl, you automatically fit into L, G, B or T.
No flexibility for girls now who are 'tomboys' (I was one).
Intense friendships are now viewed through "I must be gay, I love him/her" lenses.
When I was in my teens I really felt genuine love for several female friends, but not for one minute did I ever have the thought I was "in love' with them.
I bet all kids with pro-LGBT education now would assume similar feelings(to what I experienced) were LGBT+ feelings if they felt them towards their best friends.
 
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I also wonder if girls who don't fit into traditional stereotypes now have a new stereotype created.
If you aren't a girly-girl, you automatically fit into L, G, B or T.
No flexibility for girls now who are 'tomboys' (I was one).
Intense friendships are now viewed through "I must be gay, I love him/her" lenses.
When I was in my teens I really felt genuine love for several female friends, but not for one minute did I ever have the thought I was "in love' with them.
I bet all kids with pro-LGBT education now would assume similar feelings(to what I experienced) were LGBT+ feelings if they felt them towards their best friends.
You’ve got a good point about the lgbtq education teaching kids that their love for their friends is more that kind of love. I would think kids would start to think that everyone was bi and that would be proof that that kind of thinking was true.

It’s an amazing place we’ve come to and the sad/scary thing is it’s not going to stop here, it will worsen..to what I can’t even imagine but I already feel with the trans stuff and people talking about there are more than 2 genders that I’m in an episode of the twilight zone.
 

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I also wonder if girls who don't fit into traditional stereotypes now have a new stereotype created.
If you aren't a girly-girl, you automatically fit into L, G, B or T.
No flexibility for girls now who are 'tomboys' (I was one).
Intense friendships are now viewed through "I must be gay, I love him/her" lenses.
When I was in my teens I really felt genuine love for several female friends, but not for one minute did I ever have the thought I was "in love' with them.
I bet all kids with pro-LGBT education now would assume similar feelings(to what I experienced) were LGBT+ feelings if they felt them towards their best friends.
Flashback to 9th grade-- good point. Nothing is sacred anymore; all is perversion. The BFF is getting an overhaul. I really, really dislike this crap.
 

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On homosexuality and "gender fluidity", according to The Law given to us by our Creator to protect us from all of this evil and to set and keep us free:-

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His [Own] image, in the Image of God created He him; male and female created He them*.

*Just two genders: male and female.

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [homosexuality] [is] abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Deuteronomy 23:17 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite (homosexual) of the sons of Israel (Leviticus 20:13:- If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood [the blame][shall be] upon them).

No cross-dressing, much less gender reassignment surgeries, etc.

Deuteronomy 22:5 The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the "I AM" thy God.

And people wonder why we are now living in a current day Sodom and Gomorrah?

Because we haven't kept The Law.
 

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J.K.Rowling -yes, famous author of Harry Potter series- is now under extreme attack for her recent tweet.


It is amazing how many people howled at her stating the blatantly obvious. Several people called for her firing. (seriously, how could mega rich J.K.Rowling be fired?) :D
One responder had actually been fired for just that, stating that non-binary "people" i.e. women she knew had merely rejected their sex role.


In July of 2019, I was fired from my job as a software engineer for writing a blog about feminism. That article hit a nerve, and has been viewed by over 40,000 people since.
 

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The following opinion piece is from a transsexual who was recently not selected for the Handball Australia team. Several sentences are very revealing.



.... I can confirm that yes, I was left out of the team for the World Championships because there was a group of players within the team, supported by the team manager, who did not want me showering or using the change rooms before or after the game. This was in turn the sole reason given to me by our coach for my non selection....

I later had it confirmed by someone else within Handball Australia who had done some digging that: “From everything I’ve been told, you’ve basically not been picked because you’re not liked.” And the reason I’m not liked is because I told our manager, and by extension those players, exactly where he and they could go in trying to tell me where I could change and shower.....



Same person. How many biological women are 6 feet 2 and 220 pounds (almost 100 kgs)?

If there are so many of these "trans" individuals, why haven't they started their own league? Why are they being imposed on naturally born, female athletes? Idk how people take this, but if I saw a dude, especially that size, trying to pass himself off as a female in order to compete w/them..... Im likely to shut that whole scene down. Right is right and anyone with a care for decency, fair play, the spirit of sport in specific and females dignity and safety in general should be opposing this with strong effort......
 

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If there are so many of these "trans" individuals, why haven't they started their own league? Why are they being imposed on naturally born, female athletes? Idk how people take this, but if I saw a dude, especially that size, trying to pass himself off as a female in order to compete w/them..... Im likely to shut that whole scene down. Right is right and anyone with a care for decency, fair play, the spirit of sport in specific and females dignity and safety in general should be opposing this with strong effort......
Who decides what is right? How did we get the standard for right in the first place and does right matter more than someone’s idea of right?
 
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