Who do Muslims really worship?

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It shouldn’t come as a great surprise to find certain irreconcilable differences between religions
Surely this is by design? I can't think of any belief system that causes more division in the world. It fits nicely into the problem, reaction, solution methodology which is engineered around us on a daily basis. If all the religions are killing eachother over their beliefs then we'll need a single belief in the future to prevent this from happening.... there is the solution.

The temptation might be to assume that if none of them were true, why don’t they just get over themselves and agree on a few agreeable principles
Because this is common sense, religion doesn't allow this.

But - what if one of them (never mind which) were true. I suggest to you that in that possibility, everything changes
Do you know something Red? I have asked this question on my Disaster Thesbians thread some time ago. I asked people to consider that if just ONE of those "victims" was in fact an actor then what does this mean? What does that tell you about our news media?

Now how are you going to.prove that your religious belief system is the true one?

I'll just keep posting evidence of bad acting, dodgy scripts, dual identities and faked events to show you why I came to my conclusions about this world. I ain't 't worried about any God, it's the evil bastards who act as gods I'm more concerned about....and so should you be.
 
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I can see how one would think that, considering what iSIS do to "infidels". Its off with their head! Violent believes..
Read your own Bible that teaches incest and ordered men to kill all women who are not virgins anymore and take the ones that are virgins.. tells a man to sell her to a nation if he dealt deceitfully with her. Read your Bible, its verses are worth considering. Jesus said he did not come here to bring peace but a sword. What???
 

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Read your own Bible that teaches incest and ordered men to kill all women who are not virgins anymore and take the ones that are virgins.. tells a man to sell her to a nation if he dealt deceitfully with her. Read your Bible, its verses are worth considering. Jesus said he did not come here to bring peace but a sword. What???
I would like to know where the sodomy and emasculation of Noah by his own son comes from...

it seems really far fetched to me....
 

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It's purely incidental that VC forums have attracted the attention and subsequent residency of some of the worlds leading authorities on religious history, political history, astro physics, quantum computing, psychology, grammar and diction.

I'm sure other forums such as reddit would just love to have such a collection of esteemed experts at hand as we do here.

As pools of knowledge goes....your swimming in the ocean

*There was an element of sarcasm used to construct the above post*

....just do what you do man, don't let people here get you down.
i know the forum has some real talent...dont get me wrong....

i try and post the truth, but at times i feel as it only me here....coz of the lack of response...
 

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According to this website

MU – Ham – Maat: literally “one pulled from dark waters to peace (Islam)”, which is the already mentioned reference to Cancer, where Jupiter, ruler of the Piscean age, exalts, also a reference to Andromeda, 2nd Decan of Pisces, ruled by the Moon, therefore visited by Jebril(Gabriel, Moon angel, “messenger”), Geb-Ra-El: GEB (Earth) RA (Sun) EL (deity)

my own name is Mohammed

where is this leading?

any insights from you guys would be appreciated?
 

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According to this website

MU – Ham – Maat: literally “one pulled from dark waters to peace (Islam)”, which is the already mentioned reference to Cancer, where Jupiter, ruler of the Piscean age, exalts, also a reference to Andromeda, 2nd Decan of Pisces, ruled by the Moon, therefore visited by Jebril(Gabriel, Moon angel, “messenger”), Geb-Ra-El: GEB (Earth) RA (Sun) EL (deity)

my own name is Mohammed

where is this leading?

any insights from you guys would be appreciated?
Mu is a legendary lost continent that also appears in lost world literature. It is a term introduced by Augustus Le Plongeon, who used the "Land of Mu" as an alternative name for Atlantis

MU HAM MAAT

Atlantis - MU

Ham - SON OF NOAH

Egypt - MAAT

can anyone see any types of link in the above 3 items?
 

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Mu is a legendary lost continent that also appears in lost world literature. It is a term introduced by Augustus Le Plongeon, who used the "Land of Mu" as an alternative name for Atlantis

MU HAM MAAT

Atlantis - MU

Ham - SON OF NOAH

Egypt - MAAT

can anyone see any types of link in the above 3 items?
THE CURSE OF HAM
Black people cursed in the bible
If you no longer want to be a mental slave, you need to know that the black race is cursed in the bible. Since it is the most read, sold, translated and known book in the world, the least we can say is that it’s a problem. christianity is the religion with the most followers,
but just like islam, its roots lies in Judaism (the old testament).
Here is the part from the bible where the curse occurs:
(Genesis ch.9 v.20-27)​
“And Noah began to be a husbandman, and he planted a vineyard.
And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent.
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father and told his two brethren outside.
And Shem and Japheth took a garment and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were turned away, and they saw not their father's nakedness.
And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
And he said, "Cursed be Canaan! A servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren."
And he said, "Blessed be the LORD God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.”


Ham (Kam > Kamit) is the biblical ancestor of black people, it is irrefutable judging by the genealogy that is given by the bible; (Genesis ch.10 v.6)
“And the sons of Ham: Cush and Mizraim, and Punt and Canaan.”

• Cush (Kush) is an hebraic word meaning « black » and it indicates Nubia, today’s Sudan, a country mainly populated by black people.

• Mizraim (Mizraim) is also a hebrew ("semitic") word to name Egypt (Kemet),
Thanks to the work of Cheikh Anta Diop, we know for certain that ancient Egypt was inhabited by black people.

Punt, according to "The Oxford History of Ancient Egypt", designates an country in Africa:
[...] Punt, an African country somewhere between the upper reaches of the Nile and the Somali coast. [...] East African land of Punt [...] African region of Punt (probably located somewhere in the vicinity of modern Eritrea)
• Canaan designates Palestine (now called Israel).
It is easier to stop at the simple explanation that Ham was cursed for having seen his father’s willy, but in reality that story teaches us that Noah, while being drunk, has been sexually abused by his son and that the later (therefore his lineage) became black afterwards.
This is confirmed in Judaic and Talmudic literature, I quote Jean-Philippe Omotunde :
(Traite Négriere Européene: Vérité & Mensonges p.131-132)

In the Midrash Rabba (3) and the Bereshit Rabba (4), Rabbinic literature becomes more explicit. Three rabbis R. Joseph (dead in 333), R. Huna (dead in 297) and R. Chiza bar Abba (136-217) comment an assault on Noah committed by Ham already inside the arch. Because of this act, his descent became black. But Robert Graves and Raphael Patai give us a preview (5) :

“ Now, I can no longer engender the fourth son whom I would have gave the order (…)
your children shall serve, you and your brothers ! It has to be Canaan, your first born, that they shall take as a slave.
And since you have made me incapable of doing bad things in the darkness of the night, the children of Canaan will be born ugly and black ! Also, because you have stretched yourself to see my nudity, the hair of your grandchildren will curl so that it turns nappy and their eyes will be red, also, because your lips have joked about my misfortune, yours will swell and since you had a lack of respect for my nudity, they will go around naked and their virile part extend ignobly.”

Old editions of the Talmuld still state that:
“Cush, lineage of Ham, shall become black because of the curse (…)
The crow and the Cushite will be black because of their wrongdoings”
.

In the book of Jeremiah, we can also read (Jeremiah ch.13 v.23):
“Can a Kushite change his skin (…) Live and dwell on your land like the Kushites,
like the elements of nature, you shall not cease belonging to me”.


[ Modern versions goes as follow:
“Can the Ethiopian change his skin or the leopard its spots?
Neither can you do good who are accustomed to doing evil.”
]

(3) Comments on the Pentateuch
(4) Comments on the Genesis
(5) Robert Grave & Raphael Patai “The Hebrew Myths”

The rabbi Maimonides, in his work considered by Jews to be the greatest in matter of religious jewish philosophy
(Guide for the Perplexed, book III, chapter 51), tells us the following about the black nation:

"their nature is similar to mute animals, and in my opinion, they do not reach the level of human beings ; amongst existing things, they are inferior to the man but superior to the monkey because they possess in bigger measure than the monkey the image and resemblance of the man".
(Afrique Antique, Mythes Et Réalités - Réné-Louis Parfait Étilé p.64-65)
CONCLUSION :
• Not only is the black race cursed but we are given a fictitious account of history;
because of science and archeology we know that black people were the first ones on earth, so this biblical story puts the white man in the first place while introducing the black man under some despicable circumstances.
• That story give an alibi (or justification) for the invasion of Canaan.
• It is the first step to curse black people and to falsify their history, the second is no other than the myth of Hebrews enslaved in Egypt.
The Hebrews (hyksos as they were know as back then) invaded Egypt during 140 years (from 1720 to 1580 B.C) and tried to eradicated the Egyptians as reported by Flavius Josephus (quoting Manetho) in his book Against Apion (Book I ch.25)

It would be way to long if I had to show how much the Curse of Ham was used during the Arab trade known as the “Sub-Saharan” trade, and the European trade known as the “transatlantic” trade or “triangular trade”…

 

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Basically its about the black people....(curse of ham) as it says HAM was of a black origin.

what does that have to do with Atlantis and Egypt and Maat...

lots of blacks in Egypt

maybe its saying that blacks were the foundation people of Atlantis.


maybe its to do with who were the first inhabitants of earth.....white or black?
 

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this has got me thinking....

maybe its all about black vs white, hence the checker board pattern of black and white that we see in mainstream media today.

the very same was they picture Jesus as a white man with blonde hair and blue eyes....

same for people from Atlantis....

as far as history goes blacks came first....

so it must have been a black civilisation that found Atlantis
 

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keeping in theme with my discovery of MBM

i was thinking last night, as to what these 3 letters may mean.....

im sure most of you know that there is a famous black person in Islam, and his name is BILAL

so you have Mohammed - Bilal....

one M leftover

what might this stand for?

any ideas from you people would be nice!
 

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Aye Aye Captain!

Allah has two eyes

maybe eye of horus and eye of ra

maybe a human with two eyes...

i have no idea....

by going through my past research into all this...i rekon its eye of horus and eye of ra
 
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