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Yes personally i think she is,
I mean i understand if just her hands looked manly, or only her shoulder. But her whole body seem masculine.
She just look like a skinny male
http://instagr.am/p/Bz2c-iiFipM/ I don't want to look mean(lol my username:p) but she literally have no hips.
http://instagr.am/p/Bz0whWQltks/ Just compare her body with the body of the girl next to her
Agree...and in this video you can see the difference between her and the female dancers (the shoulders and thighs are very different if you compare)


maybe she just has a different body type....but still very masculine looking :oops:
Sorry for derailing the thread guys
 
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Well this has to be the biggest joke ever:

BTS is going to Saudi Arabia?! Wow, right after all these western artists pulled out because of Saudi’s human rights issues and Yemen and Jamal Khashoggi, the list goes on. Any Muslims here? What is you opinion? The homosexual agenda is truly spreading all over the world, even in the most conservative of societies whre women still face trouble driving and can’t leave the house without a male guardian. The end is really near.
 

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Well this has to be the biggest joke ever:

BTS is going to Saudi Arabia?! Wow, right after all these western artists pulled out because of Saudi’s human rights issues and Yemen and Jamal Khashoggi, the list goes on. Any Muslims here? What is you opinion? The homosexual agenda is truly spreading all over the world, even in the most conservative of societies whre women still face trouble driving and can’t leave the house without a male guardian. The end is really near.
well im truely shocked, i thought they would never dare to go there...
i mean yeah this is so fucked up, i hear so many women from there try to escape because their right are restricted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46873796
Like this one, Rah@f mohamed who escaped to canada from pressure of her parents.
But they still would allow their daughters to go to their concert?
I hope the population protest like in russia, i think it will work.
 

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well im truely shocked, i thought they would never dare to go there...
i mean yeah this is so fucked up, i hear so many women from there try to escape because their right are restricted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46873796
Like this one, Rah@f mohamed who escaped to canada from pressure of her parents.
But they still would allow their daughters to go to their concert?
I hope the population protest like in russia, i think it will work.
Even Nicki Minaj pulled out, yet these ones will go wherever they sniff money. How about a concert in North Korea first? It is extremely ironic that they will be performing in a country where wearing makeup for men can send you to jail and homosexuals are crucified, yet these people are invited to perform. Hypocrisy at its best.
 

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Agree...and in this video you can see the difference between her and the female dancers (the shoulders and thighs are very different if you compare)


maybe she just has a different body type....but still very masculine looking :oops:
Sorry for derailing the thread guys
either her body is masculine but still biologically a girl (some girls has that) because i look at her old pictures when she was still a kid and she is a girl, but i think she is born into it, so they couldve changed her gender ever since she was born, but her gender is so confusing for me.

well im truely shocked, i thought they would never dare to go there...
i mean yeah this is so fucked up, i hear so many women from there try to escape because their right are restricted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46873796
Like this one, Rah@f mohamed who escaped to canada from pressure of her parents.
But they still would allow their daughters to go to their concert?
I hope the population protest like in russia, i think it will work.
haha lol, arabia is not that innocent as you think it is though, not all girls are trapped in their houses, and i think they will get pimped out there a lot since arabian kings/princes/queens/princesses/sultans/or those who are rich and higher in level likes to sleep with models and they also invite instagram models too, ive read that somewhere. so if they stay a long time there, there will be a chance theyre selling themselves again.
 

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either her body is masculine but still biologically a girl (some girls has that) because i look at her old pictures when she was still a kid and she is a girl, but i think she is born into it, so they couldve changed her gender ever since she was born, but her gender is so confusing for me.



haha lol, arabia is not that innocent as you think it is though, not all girls are trapped in their houses, and i think they will get pimped out there a lot since arabian kings/princes/queens/princesses/sultans/or those who are rich and higher in level likes to sleep with models and they also invite instagram models too, ive read that somewhere. so if they stay a long time there, there will be a chance theyre selling themselves again.
Saudi royals are among the most debaucherous people you will find, biggest hoes on earth. Big$hit is very money hungry. I also heard they invite instagram ”models” so they can poop on them :rolleyes:
 
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Well this has to be the biggest joke ever:

BTS is going to Saudi Arabia?! Wow, right after all these western artists pulled out because of Saudi’s human rights issues and Yemen and Jamal Khashoggi, the list goes on. Any Muslims here? What is you opinion? The homosexual agenda is truly spreading all over the world, even in the most conservative of societies whre women still face trouble driving and can’t leave the house without a male guardian. The end is really near.
No... I dont want them to perform there
In Islam Saudi Arabia was the home of the prophet (saw) and has been deprived from the purity it once had, all leading to the arrival of the the dajaal (Anti Christ to Christians) BTS performing is another indicaion of the world preparing for the arrival
Ugh why even
Exactly @wow , The country has become very corrupt and isnt folowing The Islamic Law in such deatail that everyone thinks especially out of Makkah and Medinah in cities like Riyadh lifestyle is a lot more western
 
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Well this has to be the biggest joke ever:

BTS is going to Saudi Arabia?! Wow, right after all these western artists pulled out because of Saudi’s human rights issues and Yemen and Jamal Khashoggi, the list goes on. Any Muslims here? What is you opinion? The homosexual agenda is truly spreading all over the world, even in the most conservative of societies whre women still face trouble driving and can’t leave the house without a male guardian. The end is really near.
There will be nothing good coming out of it.. Except one thing.. That the Muslim youtubers will finally talk about this group.. The way nicki ws talked about..
Now i am not sure if this will be a rise in fame for beetees or a downfall when even the muslim youtubers start talking about them but they will be receiving large amounts of spotlights by even those people who never really talked about them..
Now more and more people will get to know about them especially Muslims. Because Saudi Arabia is very important to each and every Muslim around the globe.. Either poeple will hate them or either they will fall into the spell of this band..

One more thing that i am surprised about is that.. They didn't choose Jeddah city which is closer to Holy cities of Makkah and Madinah..
But rather the capital city which is at least a 1000 kilometers away from the holy sites..
So i can say that beetees is trying to play safe... Trying Only but stepping into the kingdom..
 

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Fans are really surprised at the choice of the location. You would think bts promoting LGBT rights, equality, self love and all the crap, would choose a less controversial country. Not bts obviously, but bighit. Arab fans are very disappointed I see ( I am not Muslim or Arab) and choosing a more friendly place such as Dubai would make more sense. I feel there are political reasons involved and maybe, as you mentioned, someone requested the boys service and willing to pay. so to cover shit up they announce a concert, in the least favorable country.. plus they would have to change their entire show sort of.. no gay fan service no suggestive dance moves.. probably will just stand and sing

You can read very interesting opinions here

https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/cd0ydq
 

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It is surprising that Bt5, who prides themselves on being so supportive of LGBQT, would even agree to go to Saudi Arabia. Especially when you have such gender bending and skinship as part of your act. I'm surprised the Saudis would allow it, too. Then again, I'm not really because the Saudi royal family is up to their eyeballs in the occult/elite connections and I think their version of Islam is problematic, to be honest. I'm not completely well versed in Islam, but like most of the hardliners in all three of the Abrahamic faiths (Judaism/Christianity/Islam) -- the Saudis seem to focus much more on the old testament punishments than the commandments that require us to care for those less fortunate than ourselves. Muhammed, from what I read, was much more progressive in his treatment of women and the Saudis don't take that same attitude.

Given all this, it seems more likely that there are some wealthy Saudi men who would like access to the "hottest boy band" of the day. I remember reading a story about 25 years ago in Cosmopolitan magazine, I think, about a former model who was paid to go to Saudi Arabia to basically be a part of a royal harem for about a month. According to that account, the Saudi royals were really into anal. So, I'm inclined to think this trip has more sinister undertones. If so, I can't help but feel sorry for these guys. I can't imagine how much it would mess with your mind to have your body be a product that you sell instead of the temple and sanctuary that it is meant to be. :(
 

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To be honest I feel the members are so worn out at this point and bighit couldn't care less. They are barely dancing now, only jhope and jk put an actual effort so it seems.
And let's talk about tae again.. 2 days in a row he misses lines (on purpose or not)

http://instagr.am/p/Bz5KO3-C1Rj/

And all of the sudden he is active on weverse in weird hours (4am his local time) posting some weird shit..
What is this??
I am a pig pig pig ( I saw it several times with similar translation)



And if at first it seemed weird, with the announcement of Saudi Arabia.. I may be reaching here and being delulu (unlike my username) but you know how a pig is a filthy animal in the Islam.. it may be a part of some weird sex ritual he'll be having where they will degrade him or something. I honestly hope they will be too drugged to feel or remember anything.
 

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Fans are really surprised at the choice of the location. You would think bts promoting LGBT rights, equality, self love and all the crap, would choose a less controversial country. Not bts obviously, but bighit. Arab fans are very disappointed I see ( I am not Muslim or Arab) and choosing a more friendly place such as Dubai would make more sense. I feel there are political reasons involved and maybe, as you mentioned, someone requested the boys service and willing to pay. so to cover shit up they announce a concert, in the least favorable country.. plus they would have to change their entire show sort of.. no gay fan service no suggestive dance moves.. probably will just stand and sing

You can read very interesting opinions here

https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/cd0ydq
I am not sure if they have to give services although that wouldn’t be out of the question. Asians are not exactly the most desired in the middle east (male or female) plus no need for a stadium concert, they could fly them over privately. Either way I couldn’t care any less about that, what happens up front is much more important. This is very significant politically, not just bt5 but the fact that the likes of of Nicki Minaj who shamelessly $lutty to get invited into SA. Remember that until last year there were no cinemas there and it was illegal for women to drive. Suddenly they want to have concerts and music festivals, something that many clerics would consider forbidden according to islamic law, much more so than watching movies for e.g. It is a very big and dramatic change, and I have no idea how the hardliners have stayed quitet (let me guess under threat and torture from the new prince MbS and his guard). Apparently Nicki was even invited to visit Mecca. The new prince is very reckless. This could have severe consequences, Big$hit have no idea what they are getting themselves into, blinded by greed as usual. I will be more surprised if all of this goes smoothly without backlash or cancellation or death threats from islamic hardliners.
 
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To be honest I feel the members are so worn out at this point and bighit couldn't care less. They are barely dancing now, only jhope and jk put an actual effort so it seems.
And let's talk about tae again.. 2 days in a row he misses lines (on purpose or not)

http://instagr.am/p/Bz5KO3-C1Rj/

And all of the sudden he is active on weverse in weird hours (4am his local time) posting some weird shit..
What is this??
I am a pig pig pig ( I saw it several times with similar translation)



And if at first it seemed weird, with the announcement of Saudi Arabia.. I may be reaching here and being delulu (unlike my username) but you know how a pig is a filthy animal in the Islam.. it may be a part of some weird sex ritual he'll be having where they will degrade him or something. I honestly hope they will be too drugged to feel or remember anything.
nah im pretty sure he is having a mental breakdown, he is hella damaged and needs serious help and armys are like "lmaooo youee so funnyyy of course youre not a pig sillyyyy" lmao i cant believe they call themselves their "fans".

and i actually retract the statement about them being pimped by arabian royals, most dudes there are heterosexuals (i think, cause they always want girls, and theyre against lgbtq) so i think they will just perform there, BUT there is a chance that they can be pimped cause saudi arabian royals have shady business but we dont know if theyre homosexuals or not but hey, im just staying vigilant and alert here, so theres a chance that they will sleep with them, yikes.
 

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nah im pretty sure he is having a mental breakdown, he is hella damaged and needs serious help and armys are like "lmaooo youee so funnyyy of course youre not a pig sillyyyy" lmao i cant believe they call themselves their "fans".

and i actually retract the statement about them being pimped by arabian royals, most dudes there are heterosexuals (i think, cause they always want girls, and theyre against lgbtq) so i think they will just perform there, BUT there is a chance that they can be pimped cause saudi arabian royals have shady business but we dont know if theyre homosexuals or not but hey, im just staying vigilant and alert here, so theres a chance that they will sleep with them, yikes.
I wouldn't be so sure about the heterosexual part. The Saudi culture is very macho, and I think most of the men there probably are heterosexual (as are most men anywhere in the world -- the percentage of gay people is pretty small in the grand scheme of things), but in the upper echelons of power such as the royal Saudi family? I'd bet a lot more of them than the general public are into that kind of thing. If that account I read about them being into anal is true -- then does it matter if it is a man or a woman? That part of the anatomy is the same for both sexes. And it can also be about a power trip as well. Men get raped in prison often as a show of dominance, not because the guy doing the r*pe is actual gay. I'd bet a lot of ultra wealthy / powerful people would get off on being able buy sex from the celebrities that most normal folks idolize.

Plus, I think a lot of these elites are into sex magic and it might not really be a matter of preferring same sex, but that same sex unions are necessary for parts of the sex magic rituals. But, that isn't something I know a whole lot about -- so I might be wrong about that.
 

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Fans are really surprised at the choice of the location. You would think bts promoting LGBT rights, equality, self love and all the crap, would choose a less controversial country. Not bts obviously, but bighit. Arab fans are very disappointed I see ( I am not Muslim or Arab) and choosing a more friendly place such as Dubai would make more sense. I feel there are political reasons involved and maybe, as you mentioned, someone requested the boys service and willing to pay. so to cover shit up they announce a concert, in the least favorable country.. plus they would have to change their entire show sort of.. no gay fan service no suggestive dance moves.. probably will just stand and sing

You can read very interesting opinions here

https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/comments/cd0ydq
I think that there is Nothing much political here.. This will not take eyes off the yemen issue and khashogi case.. If this is the reason from saudi royals..then it's a very lame try.

The real reason here is Money.. B1gh1t will go where the money is.. See how the tour is Kickstarting from Saudi Arabia.. B1gh1t is surely paid according to 7 members.. I highly doubt that b4ng pd took the same amount as nicki was offered.. That amount must have been multiplied by 7.. Only then the company is sending them there.. They booked them for the very first dayof the tour.. This all reeks of money..

And i wonder how long will they keep doing the concerts for Love yourself.. They should have been over it by now..
 

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I wouldn't be so sure about the heterosexual part. The Saudi culture is very macho, and I think most of the men there probably are heterosexual (as are most men anywhere in the world -- the percentage of gay people is pretty small in the grand scheme of things), but in the upper echelons of power such as the royal Saudi family? I'd bet a lot more of them than the general public are into that kind of thing. If that account I read about them being into anal is true -- then does it matter if it is a man or a woman? That part of the anatomy is the same for both sexes. And it can also be about a power trip as well. Men get raped in prison often as a show of dominance, not because the guy doing the r*pe is actual gay. I'd bet a lot of ultra wealthy / powerful people would get off on being able buy sex from the celebrities that most normal folks idolize.

Plus, I think a lot of these elites are into sex magic and it might not really be a matter of preferring same sex, but that same sex unions are necessary for parts of the sex magic rituals. But, that isn't something I know a whole lot about -- so I might be wrong about that.
Actually I saw a documentary a while back about p***phile rings and learned that Saudi royals are some of the biggest costumers of abducted children, especially boys. I would not put anything past them, don’t let the religious exterior fool you, these are some of the most nefarious people on earth and commit some of the worst crimes, both against their own people and outside of their country. Did you know that 30% of Saudis still live in poverty depsite the massive oil wealth? They still own slaves (usually migrant workers) and greatly mistreat their own religious minorities. Where does it go, into the pockets of the royals who spend insane amounts of money. Nothing good comes of it, nothing.

Reminds of the Sultan of Brunei, another oil rich but small Muslim country. Recently the Sultan of Brunei made homosexuality a punishable crime by stoning, which cause an international uproar especially in Hollyweird.
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Now this guy’s brother is another one of these debaucherous royals, importing harems of women, spends 50 million $$ a year and even owns a yacht called ”tits” where he hosts orgies. To make matters worse this is the Sultan’s son
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Outed as a flaming homo by Perez Hilton. I bet the stoning law won’t be applied to the royals.
 
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