How to identify a false Christ, Teacher, Prophet

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I just read the past 2 pages, waait what? So this bible_student guy believes that’s JAH is Christ? This is madness!! What cult is this? Why so many people claim to be Jesus and there are gullible people believe them? The bible already addressed this! Jesus Christ is in heaven sitting beside Father’s throne and He will come back the same way He ascended to heaven. He didn’t say He will come back again and then again.

Time to put him on ignore cuz he’s part of a cult... or something idk.
 

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I just read the past 2 pages, waait what? So this bible_student guy believes that’s JAH is Christ? This is madness!! What cult is this? Why so many people claim to be Jesus and there are gullible people believe them? The bible already addressed this! Jesus Christ is in heaven sitting beside Father’s throne and He will come back the same way He ascended to heaven. He didn’t say He will come back again and then again.

Time to put him on ignore cuz he’s part of a cult... or something idk.
People followed Jim Jones in the 1970s and he was a madman who twisted Scripture if he even used it at all and he said he was Buddha, Jesus and Lenin in his past lives. 900 people died following him.
 

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People followed Jim Jones in the 1970s and he was a madman who twisted Scripture if he even used it at all and he said he was Buddha, Jesus and Lenin in his past lives. 900 people died following him.
It is extremely dangerous. Not only physical death but also spiritual death. So many unclean spirits like spirit of error in claims like this.

Christ never says He will come back as a man again. There is no prophecy of it. The only prophecy is He will coming back to gather His brides, people who are alive waiting for Him and people who died believe in Him. He will descend the same way he ascended. Period.

Jesus already warned us though,
“Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many” (Matthew 24:4-5)

There is no Christ in flesh living on earth right now, the only available is anti-Christ.
 

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I just read the past 2 pages, waait what? So this bible_student guy believes that’s JAH is Christ? This is madness!! What cult is this? Why so many people claim to be Jesus and there are gullible people believe them? The bible already addressed this! Jesus Christ is in heaven sitting beside Father’s throne and He will come back the same way He ascended to heaven. He didn’t say He will come back again and then again.

Time to put him on ignore cuz he’s part of a cult... or something idk.
I haven't that just in case there is someone else as gullible as bible student.
I have not seen ONE single outside source that backs up any of Jahtruth's claims. There are only several supporters' blogs which paraphrase Jahtruth's claims so they aren't to be considered objective AT ALL.

Yes it really is all madness, bible verses pulled completely out of context to support a far-fetched claim that a British man born in 1948 really is Jesus.
You would think Jesus would have managed to stop Himself from going to jail for making a controversial video. Another one of Jahtruth's supporters' websites that shows that story. https://mtrial.org/bringdownqe2

I sympathise with people supporting the man John Anthony Hill (for personal reasons), but not spreading his delusions that he is Jesus.
 
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Christ’s Second Coming: Revealed; Judgement Day: Only God Knows
19 APR by A. Freeman, guest writer

Matthew 24:36 But of That Day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.



The above verse seems to be one of the most misquoted and misunderstood verses in Scripture. It is often taken out of context to imply that no one knows when the Second Coming of Christ will be, which is simply untrue. Christ told us exactly when and where to expect Him, IF we are awake, paying attention to the signs of the times and searching the Scriptures for the Birth-marksof the REAL Christ...

Read more:

https://hannahmichaels.wordpress.com/2016/04/19/christs-second-coming-revealed-judgement-day-only-god-knows/
 

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Christ’s Second Coming: Revealed; Judgement Day: Only God Knows
19 APR by A. Freeman, guest writer

Matthew 24:36 But of That Day and hour knoweth no [man], no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.



The above verse seems to be one of the most misquoted and misunderstood verses in Scripture. It is often taken out of context to imply that no one knows when the Second Coming of Christ will be, which is simply untrue. Christ told us exactly when and where to expect Him, IF we are awake, paying attention to the signs of the times and searching the Scriptures for the Birth-marksof the REAL Christ...
If people use a mainstream bible (using the 66 books from Old and New Testament only) from www.biblegateway.com will they reach the same conclusions as Jahtruth?

Again, WHERE did Jahtruth get his "translation" from bible student? There is no link I have seen on Jahtruth's website that shows that. Can you please give objective evidence that John Anthony Hill is qualified to translate Greek and Hebrew texts?
That blog is one of the supporters' sites.
 
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If people use a mainstream bible (using the 66 books from Old and New Testament only) from www.biblegateway.com will they reach the same conclusions as Jahtruth?
I believe they would at least be able to come close enough to be able to then see and accept the whole truth and to then be humble enough to allow themselves to accept and be corrected by it (we should in fact be seeking it above all else) if they are completely diligent and true, but they would have to be able to find and fix ALL of the errors in those translations by themselves (with very limited amount of time) which is not a realistic prospect. Because, God said in the bible that only Christ would be able to unlock the Scriptures. So, that then means that no other man or group of men are able to do it. ONLY Christ, because God says so. So, therefore, the answer has to be no, because all of the mainstream versions have been tampered with and corrupted and no man or group of men is able to fix that by themselves and without help from God and Christ.

(The least-bad one is the 1611 kJAV which is now the second most accurate bible, as Christ has explained on His Website.)

Therefore, the only realistic option now would therefore be to diligently read and study the King of kings' Bible (which is now the most accurate Bible) and then they can go and compare.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm

Again, WHERE did Jahtruth get his "translation" from bible student? There is no link I have seen on Jahtruth's website that shows that. Can you please give objective evidence that John Anthony Hill is qualified to translate Greek and Hebrew texts?

That blog is one of the supporters' sites.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm
http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm
http://jahtruth.net/mal4.htm
http://jahtruth.net/noah.htm

Please read and study the pages on JAH's Website and His Book which will answer all of your questions.

People should not be afraid to read it if their faith is genuine. If your faith is true then it should only strengthen your faith not weaken it. We have to follow Jesus' Teachings in the Bible in order to survive (not organised religion and the churches misinterpretations) and that is what this is all about.

Peace be upon you and God Bless,
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I haven't that just in case there is someone else as gullible as bible student.
I have not seen ONE single outside source that backs up any of Jahtruth's claims. There are only several supporters' blogs which paraphrase Jahtruth's claims so they aren't to be considered objective AT ALL.
JAH is Christ. Period. I've read The Way home or face The Fire. There are no mistakes in it. None. It's the Key to complete understanding of the Scriptures. No one else but Christ could have written it. End of story.
Yes it really is all madness, bible verses pulled completely out of context to support a far-fetched claim that a British man born in 1948 really is Jesus.
No. They are quoted correctly. It's not far fetched. Jesus was British too. Mary was from the British Royal family. She was also buried in England. Even The Vatican confirmed this (because they had to).
You would think Jesus would have managed to stop Himself from going to jail for making a controversial video.
The Crucifixion? ...
Do you not see the stupidity of your comment?
What did Jesus say to them about that, and when they said don't go to Jerusalem?
What did He do then?
Do you even know Jesus?
Maybe you should read your bible again instead of doing this.
Another one of Jahtruth's supporters' websites that shows that story. https://mtrial.org/bringdownqe2
Well worth reading.
I sympathise with people supporting the man John Anthony Hill (for personal reasons), but not spreading his delusions that he is Jesus.
JAH is Christ.
 

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JAH is Christ. Period. I've read The Way home or face The Fire. There are no mistakes in it. None. It's the Key to complete understanding of the Scriptures. No one else but Christ could have written it. End of story.
Verses RE Jesus' Ascension into Heaven:

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

John Anthony Hill is not Jesus.
John Anthony Hill did not come down from Heaven.

They are quoted correctly. It's not far fetched. Jesus was British too. Mary was from the British Royal family. She was also buried in England. Even The Vatican confirmed this (because they had to).
Jesus was born in Bethlehem. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+2&version=KJV

Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.


Is Bethlehem in Britain?

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please prove the rest of your claims from NON-JAHTRUTH sources (whether Jahtruth or Jahtruth friends.)
The Crucifixion? ...
Do you not see the stupidity of your comment?
What did Jesus say to them about that, and when they said don't go to Jerusalem?
What did He do then?
Do you even know Jesus?
Maybe you should read your bible again instead of doing this.

Well worth reading.

JAH is Christ.
I should have put "Jesus" in air quotes to make myself clearer.

Jesus foretold His crucifixion to His apostles. He fulfilled all prophecies in the Old Testament.

Did John Anthony Hill know he was going to go to prison for making a controversial video?
Did he tell any followers exactly what was going to happen?
 

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I believe they would at least be able to come close enough to be able to then see and accept the whole truth and to then be humble enough to allow themselves to accept and be corrected by it (we should in fact be seeking it above all else) if they are completely diligent and true, but they would have to be able to find and fix ALL of the errors in those translations by themselves (with very limited amount of time) which is not a realistic prospect. Because, God said in the bible that only Christ would be able to unlock the Scriptures. So, that then means that no other man or group of men are able to do it. ONLY Christ, because God says so. So, therefore, the answer has to be no, because all of the mainstream versions have been tampered with and corrupted and no man or group of men is able to fix that by themselves and without help from God and Christ.

(The least-bad one is the 1611 kJAV which is now the second most accurate bible, as Christ has explained on His Website.)

Therefore, the only realistic option now would therefore be to diligently read and study the King of kings' Bible (which is now the most accurate Bible) and then they can go and compare.
http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm


http://jahtruth.net/kofkad.htm
http://jahtruth.net/wayad.htm
http://jahtruth.net/mal4.htm
http://jahtruth.net/noah.htm

Please read and study the pages on JAH's Website and His Book which will answer all of your questions.

People should not be afraid to read it if their faith is genuine. If your faith is true then it should only strengthen your faith not weaken it. We have to follow Jesus' Teachings in the Bible in order to survive (not organised religion and the churches misinterpretations) and that is what this is all about.

Peace be upon you and God Bless,
bible student
Jahtruth's King of King "translation" is an example of a cult leader inserting words here and there in an attempt to make followers believe he is the source of Truth.
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/5849-scripture-twisting

No, Jahtruth is making the claim that only Christ can unlock the scriptures.
Does that mean that according to John Anthony Hill, only he can understand the bible?
Therefore, do you believe only John Anthony Hill has the mind of Christ?
 
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@bible_student

The reason people want to warn you is because they care. I'm sure you realize your belief in John Hill is the most far-out, controversial belief of anyone at this forum. You've got to see that your group is an extreme minority, we're talking a handful of people on the entire planet?

Do you think your character could be coming across to others as desperate for attention? It seems like every post you have this need to reference your teacher and your book. There's already threads dedicated to your faith and John Hill- it's like, "no one's biting so let me bring it up in other conversations and topics." Lately you're adding "please", as if you're begging for companionship. That's a display of worldliness. Being alone doesn't equate to being lonely. I think part of spirituality is being comfortable in our sol-itude.

It's not righteous to derail every thread into a discussion about yourself. As Jesus says, if we live for ourselves we die. I don't think any teacher/guru/leader wishes to be idolized by their disciples. Their purpose is to glorify the ALL. For everyone to be with God. When we idolize or fictionalize something it actually creates a schism in our own personality; there's a blockade that tells us we aren't good enough, that we aren't of God.

I think people would rather hear what the Almighty is telling you and not what your teacher believes. What about your revelation? Instead of talking about brands of lanterns, let's be the light!
 
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Jahtruth's King of King "translation" is an example of a cult leader inserting words here and there in an attempt to make followers believe he is the source of Truth.
http://www.apologeticsindex.org/5849-scripture-twisting

No, Jahtruth is making the claim that only Christ can unlock the scriptures.
Does that mean that according to John Anthony Hill, only he can understand the bible?
Therefore, do you believe only John Anthony Hill has the mind of Christ?
God said that ONLY Christ would be able to unlock the Scriptures, in the book of Revelation:

Revelation
4:10 The four and twenty elders (the Prophets) fall down before Him that sat on the Throne, and worship Him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast THEIR crowns before the Throne, saying,
4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for Thou hast created all things, and for Thy pleasure they are and were created.
5:1 And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a Book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals (seven in God's "Code" means ALL or COMPLETELY).
5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the Book, and to loose the seals thereof?
5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the Book, neither to look thereon.
5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Source of David, hath prevailed to open the Book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the Throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
5:7 And he came and took the Book out of the right hand of Him that sat upon the Throne.
5:8 And when he had taken the Book, the four beasts and four [and] twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of holy people (those who really trust God).
5:9 And they sung a New Song (Isa 42:10), saying, Thou art worthy to take the Book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and channels: and we shall reign on the earth.
5:11 And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the Throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;
5:12 Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.
5:13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, [be] unto Him that sitteth upon the Throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
5:14 And the four beasts (12 tribes) said, Amen. And the four [and] twenty elders (Prophets) fell down and worshipped Him that Liveth for ever and ever.

NO ONE but Christ (The Lamb) was found worthy to break the seals on the Books.

GOD SAYS SO.

And JAH has done it, with His Father's Help alone.

JAH is Christ.

On the Way to Emmaus (again) - Scripture Explained again at the end of the 20th century
http://jahtruth.net/emmau2.htm
 
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NO ONE but Christ (The Lamb) was found worthy to break the seals on the Books.
The Book that Jesus Christ opened is the Gospel, that is why no one else was worthy to open it, these Scripture have ZERO to do with your ideology at all. Of course I dont believe you will accept this, because you have been completely and totally brainwashed by this False Prophet and Antichrist...

JAH is Christ.
Absolutely not, he is Antichrist, he is a liar, a False Prophet, he is literally the embodiment of everything Jesus and the Apostles warned about concerning False Prophets and False Christs. It breaks my heart that you are so incredibly deceived and it angers me that this man is masquerading as Christ, lying and deceiving people. It also angers me that you continue to try and lead people away from the True Christ to this Antichrist, you need to Repent and wake up man...
 
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Verses RE Jesus' Ascension into Heaven:

Acts 1:9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

John Anthony Hill is not Jesus.
John Anthony Hill did not come down from Heaven.


Jesus was born in Bethlehem. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+2&version=KJV

Luke 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.
7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.


Is Bethlehem in Britain?

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please prove the rest of your claims from NON-JAHTRUTH sources (whether Jahtruth or Jahtruth friends.)

I should have put "Jesus" in air quotes to make myself clearer.

Jesus foretold His crucifixion to His apostles. He fulfilled all prophecies in the Old Testament.

Did John Anthony Hill know he was going to go to prison for making a controversial video?
Did he tell any followers exactly what was going to happen?
The truth will suffice.

VATICAN CONFIRMATION that JOSEPH of ARIMATHAEA (the VIRGIN's uncle) went to ENGLAND and continued the Conversion of the BRITISH. (It had already been STARTED by Jesus - Himself).
http://jahtruth.net/joarim.htm


"Official historical records, both domestic and foreign, including at least four official Vatican documents*, confirm that Joseph of Arimathaea fled the Holy Land with Mary the mother of Jesus and others; came to England; settled and was eventually buried, along with Virgin Mary, in Glastonbury after the Crucifixion of Jesus the Nazarite (Num. 6), during the vicious persecution of the first followers of The New Way - Christ.

* Council of Pisa (A.D. 1417); Council of Constance, also in A.D. 1417; Council at Sienna 1424; Council at Basle in 1434."
http://jahtruth.net/glaston.htm



"Historical records show that Mary the mother of Jesus was a member of the British royal family, descended from David and also the priestly line of Levi - she was the cousin of Elisabeth. This Levitical connection is confirmed both in the Gospel of Luke and also in the Koran, which also confirms that Mary travelled to the East to give birth to Jesus in fulfillment of Old Testament prophecy. Mary’s Levitical and Davidic lineage meant that Jesus was therefore eligible to be both King and High-Priest, also in fulfillment of Scriptural prophecy.


Luke 1:36 And, behold, thy cousin Elisabeth, she hath also conceived a son in her old age: and this is the sixth month with her, who was called barren.
1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.
1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.
1:39 And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with haste, into a city of Juda;
1:40 And entered into the house of Zacharias (a Levitical priest), and saluted Elisabeth.
1:41 And it came to pass, that, when Elisabeth heard the salutation of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and Elisabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit:
1:42 And she spoke out with a loud voice, and said, Blessed [art] thou among women, and blessed [is] the fruit of thy womb.
1:43 And whence [is] this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?

King of kings’ Bible - Sura 3:33. God did choose Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of Amram above all people,-
3:34. Offspring, one of the other: and God heareth and knoweth all things.
3:35. Behold! A woman (Hannah - Anne who was a member of the British Royal Family) of Amram (who was a Levite and Moses’ dad) said: "O my Lord! I do dedicate unto Thee what is in my womb for Thy special service: so accept this of me: for Thou hearest and knowest all things."
3:36. When she was delivered, she said: "O my Lord! Behold! I am delivered of a female child!"- and God knew best what she brought forth- "And in no way is the male like the female. I have named her Mary, and I commend her and her offspring to Thy protection from the Evil One, the Rejected."

King of kings’ Bible - Sura 19:16. Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family (in Britain) to a place in the East (Israel). "
http://jahtruth.net/glaston.htm
 
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The Book that Jesus Christ opened is the Gospel, that is why no one else was worthy to open it, these Scripture have ZERO to do with your ideology at all. Of course I dont believe you will accept this, because you have been completely and totally brainwashed by this False Prophet and Antichrist...



Absolutely not, he is Antichrist, he is a liar, a False Prophet, he is literally the embodiment of everything Jesus and the Apostles warned about concerning False Prophets and False Christs. It breaks my heart that you are so incredibly deceived and it angers me that this man is masquerading as Christ, lying and deceiving people. It also angers me that you continue to try and lead people away from the True Christ to this Antichrist, you need to Repent and wake up man...
No. JAH has unlocked the meaning of ALL of the Scriptures and has solved every issue that each and every one of you here on this forum keep bickering and arguing with each other about, day after day. If you never solve any of it, then to what end are you doing it?

You never get anywhere.

You all just keep having the same stupid, lame and tired old arguments over and over, that NEVER get any of you anywhere or able to agree about anything.

Do you seriously believe that doing THAT, ad infinitum, is God's Will?

You would have to be really, really STUPID and ignorant too, on top of it, if that is what anyone chooses to believe!

And in the midst of this you have been provided with the Answer to all of it. To every single dumb argument you guys keep on having, and never get anywhere closer to solving, because you all just keep doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting a different result.

And that is the actual DEFINITION of insanity. Which is what all of you are. You are all insane. The sooner you realise this the more chance of hope there will be. But will you? If you are handed the answer, to everything. Handed it. Given. Here. Free. But not go to the trouble of reading it? What excuse could anyone possibly have, then?
 
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@bible_student

The reason people want to warn you is because they care.
That is understood and it is appreciated, thank you. It's the same reason why I post here as well.
I'm sure you realize your belief in John Hill is the most far-out, controversial belief of anyone at this forum. You've got to see that your group is an extreme minority, we're talking a handful of people on the entire planet?

Do you think your character could be coming across to others as desperate for attention? It seems like every post you have this need to reference your teacher and your book.
It is referenced, because it is the truth.
There's already threads dedicated to your faith and John Hill- it's like, "no one's biting so let me bring it up in other conversations and topics."
Which threads, please? And who is it that started them?
I know that I started the most recent one, but, I did not start all of them. On one of them I did not even want to participate and strived to make it clear but then decided to answer it.
Lately you're adding "please", as if you're begging for companionship.
Saying please, is just having good manners and being polite.
That's a display of worldliness.
Being polite?
Being alone doesn't equate to being lonely.
None of us are ever alone spiritually.
I think part of spirituality is being comfortable in our sol-itude.
Agreed.
It's not righteous to derail every thread into a discussion about yourself.
It is righteous to speak the truth and the posts are not about me.
As Jesus says, if we live for ourselves we die. I don't think any teacher/guru/leader wishes to be idolized by their disciples. Their purpose is to glorify the ALL. For everyone to be with God. When we idolize or fictionalize something it actually creates a schism in our own personality; there's a blockade that tells us we aren't good enough, that we aren't of God.
This is not about fiction, so the accusation is false.
I think people would rather hear what the Almighty is telling you and not what your teacher believes. What about your revelation? Instead of talking about brands of lanterns, let's be the light!
That is what I've been striving to do.
The idea however, that there are many different truths or paths (but that are always conflicting with each other) is what IS fiction.
 

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No. JAH has unlocked the meaning of ALL of the Scriptures and has solved every issue that each and every one of you here on this forum keep bickering and arguing with each other about, day after day. If you never solve any of it, then to what end are you doing it?

You never get anywhere.

You all just keep having the same stupid, lame and tired old arguments over and over, that NEVER get any of you anywhere or able to agree about anything.

Do you seriously believe that doing THAT, ad infinitum, is God's Will?

You would have to be really, really STUPID and ignorant too, on top of it, if that is what anyone chooses to believe!

And in the midst of this you have been provided with the Answer to all of it. To every single dumb argument you guys keep on having, and never get anywhere closer to solving, because you all just keep doing the same thing over and over and over again expecting a different result.

And that is the actual DEFINITION of insanity. Which is what all of you are. You are all insane. The sooner you realise this the more chance of hope there will be. But will you? If you are handed the answer, to everything. Handed it. Given. Here. Free. But not go to the trouble of reading it? What excuse could anyone possibly have, then?
John Anthony Hill does not ever provide any evidence for his claims. EVER. You have not provided any outside evidence to support Hill either. He is a heretic for both Muslims and Christians. He contradicts both religion's teachings by trying to blend them together.

Now to prove his incompatibility with Islam:

[Hill's "translation] John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only incarnated Son, that whosoever believeth him should not perish, but have Everlasting Life.

He is showing he has some type of belief in that verse by making that text in Jahtruth's name.

Quran [Sahih International] O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=4&verse=171

For this alone, a extremist believer in Islam [determined to obey Allah] might kill John Anthony Hill. He according to Islam is an disbeliever. An average Muslim would say Hill is a disbeliever.

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.
https://quran.com/98/6?translations=20

John Anthony Hill's "Quran":
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book (Bible) and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for ever). They are the worst of creatures.

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Is the real Quran saying reject Truth (remember Jesus said HE is the truth John 14:6) or disbelieve in Muhammad (and the Islamic teachings etc)?

Muslim commentary:
Allah informs of what will happen to the wicked disbelievers among the People of the Scripture and the idolators who oppose the Allah's divinely revealed Books and the Prophets whom He sent. He says that they will be in the fire of Hell on the Day of Judgement and they will abide therein forever. This means that they will remain in it and they will have no way out of it and they will not cease being in it. https://quranx.com/tafsirs/98.6

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That is a massive difference bible student.
It is John Anthony Hill who is insane for thinking he can insert words wherever he likes to change meanings according to his imagination and bizarre worldview with no consequences. He has altered Islamic texts blatantly.

Are you ever going to provide any evidence that Hill is qualified to translate Hebrew, Greek and Arabic?
 
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John Anthony Hill does not ever provide any evidence for his claims. EVER. You have not provided any outside evidence to support Hill either. He is a heretic for both Muslims and Christians. He contradicts both religion's teachings by trying to blend them together.

Now to prove his incompatibility with Islam:

[Hill's "translation] John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that He gave His only incarnated Son, that whosoever believeth him should not perish, but have Everlasting Life.

He is showing he has some type of belief in that verse by making that text in Jahtruth's name.

Quran [Sahih International] O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.

http://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=4&verse=171
This is a lame attempt. First you quoted from the King of kings' Bible for John 3:16, and then you quote from the Salih International. You should have read what Christ has to say about that first, then you would have been less likely to be made to look so foolish:
http://jahtruth.net/hadith.htm

Now, to quote from God's True Koran (and not from the Meccan versions):

King of kings' Bible, Koran
Surah 4. Women
4:171. O People of the Book! Commit no excesses in your religion: nor say of God aught but the Truth. Jesus the (human) son of Mary was (no more than) an Apostle of God; and His Word (John 1:14), which He bestowed on Mary's (human) son; was a spirit-Being (Christ) proceeding from Him (making the human+Being called Jesus+Christ): so believe God and His Apostles. Say NOT "Trinity": DESIST: it will be better for you: for "I AM" is one God. Glory be to Him: (far exalted is He) above having a human son. To Him belong all things in the heavens and on earth. And enough is God as a Disposer of affairs.
4:172. Christ commandeth YE to serve and worship God, so do the angels, those nearest (to God): those who scorn His worship and are arrogant,- He will gather them all together unto Himself to (answer).

So, as can be seen there is perfect harmony there when you quote from the true Scripture.

They Killed Christ Not.
http://jahtruth.net/kcnot.htm
For this alone, a extremist believer in Islam [determined to obey Allah] might kill John Anthony Hill. He according to Islam is an disbeliever. An average Muslim would say Hill is a disbeliever.

SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Indeed, they who disbelieved among the People of the Scripture and the polytheists will be in the fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures.
https://quran.com/98/6?translations=20

John Anthony Hill's "Quran":
Those who reject (Truth), among the People of the Book (Bible) and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for ever). They are the worst of creatures.
Take some advice. For your own sake, please stop being such a glove puppet for Satan.

You are being foolish here in the EXTREME and I therefore strongly urge you to put a big sock in it ASAP and desist from typing the nonsense that Satan is filling your head with. You are willingly allowing Satan to use you and that carries with it serious consequences. So, for your own good, I suggest you read the following very carefully, as an introduction and then read the rest so that you can begin to learn from it.

1 Timothy
2:11 Let the woman learn in SILENCE with all subjection.
2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to USURP authority over the man, but TO BE IN SILENCE.
2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.

The Way home or face The Fire
4:44 After the expulsion from Eden, the devil used women; as he has continued to do successfully,
throughout the history of the world; to create problems, or aggravate existing ones.

Eve fully believed Satan’s lie that she was ONLY human and swallowed the apple, but it
stuck in Adam’s throat, as he did not fully believe it. That’s why men have an Adam’s Apple, and
women do not.


12:65 Satan has “used” women; just as he did in the Garden of Eden, and has continued to do,
throughout history; to do evil and get the eunuchs, in western governments (Matt. 19:12 - 2nd. type
of eunuch), to change God’s Laws, and give equality to women, most of whom are not REALLY
women. There is nothing feminine about them. They are trying to be men, in women’s bodies,
without having EARNED their RIGHT to be men.

12:70 On the Last-Day, the women’s liberationists, the homosexuals/sodomites, and ANYONE who
teaches organized-religion, will be in the most danger, and first into “The Fire”.
12:71 The Moslems are far from perfect, and, because of their religious arrogance, have refused to
accept that The Torah, and New Testament, are to be used, and read as an introduction, and the first
2/3 of God’s Book, leading to the Koran, which is the Last Testament 1/3 of God’s Book, and are
consequently running in circles, heading for “The Fire”.
12:72 They quite rightly resent the West’s influence on their women, and the disorder and evil that it
brings with it.

12:91 All these things have been brought-about by women’s MIS-GUIDED influence, which they
have been allowed to exercise, because of women’s liberation, and “equality” (Enoch 96:12-14 &
Job 2:10 & Isaiah 3:12)(1st. Timothy 2:11-14).

13:26 Once you start to do God’s Will, Satan will use everyone that he can, to attack you, and try to
pull you back into his control. The easiest people, for Satan to use, are the ones closest to you, and
particularly women, because women are easier for him to manipulate and use (1st. Timothy 2:14).

13:90 If women’s liberation is right, why then; as well as it having been responsible for creating all
the innumerable social-problems, that have come with the breakdown of the family-unit and society;
are women suffering, from stress, with more and more young girls and women smoking; becoming
alcoholics, or tranquilizing and hard drug-addicts; having nervous-breakdowns, and committing
suicide? It is happening, because these women have been put into a position, where they are trying to
do, and be, something that they were not intended to do, and are not ready for, or equipped to cope
with.
13:91 Today everything is sex. What ever happened to LOVE, and tender loving care? You can
keep sex. I will choose tender loving care, every time.
13:92 Any man, who has allowed women to brain-wash him, into thinking that women are his equal,
is not much of a man, in REAL terms, even if he is an expert at punching people in the mouth, and
FOOLING himself, into believing that that makes him a man, when he lets women walk all over
him, and order him about.
13:93 If you have allowed women to castrate you (metaphorically), into believing that they are your
equal, then you have become one of the second type of eunuchs, referred to in Matt. 19:12, “and
there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs (real ones) by women (or men).”
13:94 In Deuteronomy 23:1, God says that, “He who is wounded in the stones (testicles)(i.e.
castrated, metaphorically), or has his male organ cut off (metaphorically), can not enter into the
congregation of the Lord” - Heaven.

This applies literally, as well as metaphorically.

13:106 God’s Laws are designed to teach humility; unselfishness; tolerance and LOVE. Women’s
liberation teaches women arrogance; aggression; selfishness and emotional-hate - all of which
come from Satan, and lead to execution, on the Last-Day.

13:109 Can you not see, what changing The Laws, and giving equality, and custody of children, to
women, has done to the institute of marriage, and society?
13:110 You changed The Laws, and the streets are now not safe, for you to walk. You are not even
safe in your own homes, and are now suffering the results of your own arrogant and unlawful
actions.

Divine Justice!
http://thewayhomeorfacethefire.net
Is the real Quran saying reject Truth
No. Of course not. You need to stop listening to Satan and then being a glove-puppet for him.
(remember Jesus said HE is the truth John 14:6)
Correct.
or disbelieve in Muhammad
No.
(and the Islamic teachings etc)?
Yes, because they (the hadiths) are not what was sent down to Muhammed (pbuh).
http://jahtruth.net/hadith
Muslim commentary:
Allah informs of what will happen to the wicked disbelievers among the People of the Scripture and the idolators who oppose the Allah's divinely revealed Books and the Prophets whom He sent. He says that they will be in the fire of Hell on the Day of Judgement and they will abide therein forever. This means that they will remain in it and they will have no way out of it and they will not cease being in it. https://quranx.com/tafsirs/98.6

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That is a massive difference bible student.
It is John Anthony Hill who is insane for thinking he can insert words wherever he likes to change meanings according to his imagination and bizarre worldview with no consequences. He has altered Islamic texts blatantly.
It is JAH Who sent Gabriel to Muhammed to give him the Message contained in the Quran.
Are you ever going to provide any evidence that Hill is qualified to translate Hebrew, Greek and Arabic?
As above.
 
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I just read the past 2 pages, waait what? So this bible_student guy believes that’s JAH is Christ? This is madness!! What cult is this? Why so many people claim to be Jesus and there are gullible people believe them? The bible already addressed this! Jesus Christ is in heaven sitting beside Father’s throne and He will come back the same way He ascended to heaven. He didn’t say He will come back again and then again.

Time to put him on ignore cuz he’s part of a cult... or something idk.
Reminds me of the Scripture warning by Christ about the Last Days, "Many shall come in my name saying, "I am Christ,". And deceive many! (Matt. 24:4-14) And many false prophets shall arise...……… Believe them not!
 
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