BTS discussion thread

[sculmatee]

I'm still trying to figure out "B+S paved the way." Paved the way to what exactly?

They didn't really pave anything (with music content and quality, I mean). I think the only thing they sorta contributed to the music industry is potential hope for other groups that aren't American to make it "big". BTS seem like one of those groups that proves with major sacrifices behind closed doors and with help from the elite anyone can become a temporary idol to be glorified. I think they're the group that screams, "how far will you go to get this deep into fame? and what will you be willing to do in order to get there." type scenario. They've paved the way for more people to get abused in the music industry and to be miserable, I suppose. Maybe that's it.

 

[Chic]

Also, I don't think that Taekook is a real thing. If anything, I saw Jimin trying to interact sexually with Taehyung and Jungkook. He initiates it a lot. It could be a possibility that Taekook does exists, but I didn't see that in the vlive. I could be wrong though. I see Taekook all over Instagram, and I feel like people are digging way too deep, with the recent vlive. It looks to me, that Taehyung really didn't want to be touched, because he grabbed Jungkook's hand and held it away from his body. When Jimin touched his chest, Taehyung covered his body playfully, but you kinda get the impression that he doesn't want to be touched in a certain way. Also, once Jimin left the room, Taehyung and Jungkook did not touch each other. Even the things that they said to one another, weren't inappropriate to me. So, if anything, Jimin and Jungkook could possibly be more of a thing than Taekook. I believe when most of them are sober, they don't interact in the ways that most fan-girls may want them to act. They may pretend a tad bit, but they don't pull it off well. If anything, Jimin is the only one who is bold enough to make sexual gestures to both Taehyung and Jimin, because I do believe he likes them in that manner. I noticed he didn't interact with Jin like that during Jungkook's vlive.

JM's a little thot, bottom line lol.

But on the real, I never understood the whole shipping thing making them out to be in a relationship, I mean. I don't mind the ship as in "they're best friends, have great chemistry musically and are close" kind of ships, but it crosses the line for me when they start talking about them being involved with each other. Why can't them being bandmates be good enough?

I feel like if they attempted to do a mature style in music, they would lose their younger audience. I could be wrong, though.

 

[rottielover]

JM's a little thot, bottom line lol.

But on the real, I never understood the whole shipping thing making them out to be in a relationship, I mean. I don't mind the ship as in "they're best friends, have great chemistry musically and are close" kind of ships, but it crosses the line for me when they start talking about them being involved with each other. Why can't them being bandmates be good enough?

I feel like if they attempted to do a mature style in music, they would lose their younger audience. I could be wrong, though.

i don't' understand the whole ship thing as well. i think i asked that here before and someone told me its because the fans are so obsessive and jealous that they rather have them in relationships with each other rather than others outside. this mentality is so toxic and crazy to me. if they were level-headed fans, they would be happy for their artist to date/get married and be in happy/healthy relationships just like normal people. that's the whole boy band branding--to be seen as single and have no other competing relationships.

 

[Deadlylady]

every show the encore got wilder. I think they might be taking something beforehand or its just their way to let out steam and give the fans the crackhead bts they all love and make memes out of. When you're so hyped and the adrenaline is high they probably don't feel pain until the next day. They all work out and probably can handle it.

The bouncy thingy gets crazier by the concert, they all get stuck there at some point . I believe they have alcohol and some sorts of pills to fuel this, at least some of them

I had a friend and his relative is a singer but not famous anymore. Anyways I went with them he was going to perform at a local tv channel. They offered him alcohol to loosen up right before the show. So definitely Bt3 must be drinking to loosen up, and be more joly? They keep doing the same performance which can get boring after a while, also injuries can't help their mood. So to be more cheerful they might be just drinking. I don't think they all work out. Jamal keep saying he doesn't do work outs most of them must just skip meals.

 

[Chic]

i don't' understand the whole ship thing as well. i think i asked that here before and someone told me its because the fans are so obsessive and jealous that they rather have them in relationships with each other rather than others outside. this mentality is so toxic and crazy to me. if they were level-headed fans, they would be happy for their artist to be in happy/healthy relationships just like normal people. that's the whole boy band branding--to be seen as single and have no other competing relationships.

Contrarily, you have fans that hate for them to be close with certain members! It's crazy! This is the very reason why I'm waiting for a dating scandal, but BH are making sure to keep that under wraps.

Kpop fans are so possessive it's scary! The only boyband member I can think of whose fans were genuinely happy for finding love and getting married is Taeyang from BB and that's because he played up the "never been in a relationship" role and had that song "I Need A Girl." Fans felt sorry for him.

 

[Hopeful]

Contrarily, you have fans that hate for them to be close with certain members! It's crazy! This is the very reason why I'm waiting for a dating scandal, but BH are making sure to keep that under wraps.

Kpop fans are so possessive it's scary! The only boyband member I can think of whose fans were genuinely happy for finding love and getting married is Taeyang from BB and that's because he played up the "never been in a relationship" role and had that song "I Need A Girl." Fans felt sorry for him.

While the boys here sing about Boy with luv ..and even make a bi woman sing about it too. They don't even use the word Girl anymore..

 

[NotDelulu]

So my take on this - I think during concerts all moments between members should be taken as fan service.
Logically speaking, it wouldn't be wise and healthy if 2 members in the group would be romantically involved , it can bring all kinds of issues to the group and affect them professionally.
Ships have always been a part of boyband fangirl culture (remember Larry- Louis and harry from 1d? After all was over they admitted that the shippings only caused them to feel awkward and ruined their friendship).
At first when I saw older clips of bts on stage I immediately thought they were gay until I read that this is what koreans call skinship. Still gets me puzzled how being so intimate and touchy on stage is ok but actually coming out is something koreans wont tolerate.
Regarding jm, I think he really is gay or at least bi. In us he's being more confident. He is always touchy with the members and I think they are used to that.
Taekook have been very careful on camera, with some things tae said in recent live that were questionable. I do think jk and tae are still close, being good friends or more who knows, but at this point everything we see on camera is deliberate. I think what fuels this taekook thing is a lot of b1ghits shady behavior. if there is nothing there more than mere fan service and playful fun, why do they edit their content, restrict taekook interaction on stage and even take out taekook videos from YouTube. If it's all in the fans heads why they do that? That only fuels this rumor more.

Regarding the fans, it really is twisted and toxic how they go after each other and members to fulfill their shipping fantasies. It is not healthy for teenage kids to earn to see members being with one another than normal relationships with whoever they choose. They bash on members, they spread hate and act crazy yes. But in such large and diverse fandom that attracts outcasts a lot you can expect a lot of irrational behaviour.

Regarding members sexuality, I think the focus is on the maknae line. Maybe they are all tried things one another maybe not. They all live and spend a lot of time together and maybe were even forced to things with one another. Tae has always been very conscious about others touching him sexually, also from early clips I have seen. He doesn't like it.

 

[Truthteller]

My observation:
Taehyung doesn’t like to be touched, but he sure likes to touch others (cough cough jungkook). I mean how could anyone deny all the evidence of him inappropriately touching JK and some other members from all these years. Remeber when he licked cream off of Jin’s lips or brought his face super close? There is a clip of him literally groping JK’s crotch during an award show when Jk was annoying him. He is just a top guy if you know what I mean. It wouldnt make sense for members to be involved romantically within the same group sure, but is is not unheard of eg Edawn and Hyuna comes to mind. Who is there to stop it especially when these groups start off so young and might start developing feelings/attractions for one another? I personally saw a lot off with the vlive, sure nothing inappropriate but would you expect them to dry hump one another if they were a couple? Real life couples don’t behave inappropriately in public or on camera, especially when trying to hide it. For some reason taehyung likes to keep it strictly platonic with Jimin and doesnt reciprocate the seemingly ”friendly” touches or initiate. But they do have some moments where they both come across as super gay: Let me bring back the legendary, I don’t think they realized how authentically gay this looked.n

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1128780096624574471

Ignore the interactions, just look at them individually, no straight man would behave like this, period.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1004309759925686273

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/953136739421339648

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1047670433028493313

And sure this is fan service because they are on stage

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1114064917139603456

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvKSVbbkYqU

 

[Hopeful]

My observation:
Taehyung doesn’t like to be touched, but he sure likes to touch others (cough cough jungkook). I mean how could anyone deny all the evidence of him inappropriately touching JK and some other members from all these years. Remeber when he licked cream off of Jin’s lips or brought his face super close? There is a clip of him literally groping JK on stage during an award show. He is just a top guy if you know what I mean. It wouldnt make sense for members to be involved romantically within the same group sure, but is is not unheard of eg Edawn and Hyuna comes to mind. Who is there to stop it especially when these groups start off so young and might start developing feelings/attractions for one another? I personally saw a lot off with the vlive, sure nothing inappropriate but would you expect them to dry hump one another if they were a couple? Realmlife couples don’t behave inappropriately in public or on camera, especially when teying to hide it. For some reason taehyung likes to keep it strictly platonic with Jimin and doesnt reciprocate the seemingly ”friendly” touches or initiate. But they do have some moments where they both come across as super gay: Let me bring back the legendary, I don’t think they realized how authentically gay this looked.n

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1128780096624574471

Ignore the interactions, just look at them individually, no straight man would behave like this, period.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/963017279729356800

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1004309759925686273

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/953136739421339648

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1047670433028493313

And sure this is fan service because they are on stage
https://twitter.com/9795JKTH/status/1114064917139603456?s=20

Ok I'm scared of perverts..literally every girl is.. And now i can't unsee him as one.

 

[Truthteller]

Ok I'm scared of perverts..literally every girl is.. And now i can't unsee him as one.

I don’ think he is interested in girls tbh.

 

[Deadlylady]

So my take on this - I think during concerts all moments between members should be taken as fan service.
Logically speaking, it wouldn't be wise and healthy if 2 members in the group would be romantically involved , it can bring all kinds of issues to the group and affect them professionally.
Ships have always been a part of boyband fangirl culture (remember Larry- Louis and harry from 1d? After all was over they admitted that the shippings only caused them to feel awkward and ruined their friendship).
At first when I saw older clips of bts on stage I immediately thought they were gay until I read that this is what koreans call skinship. Still gets me puzzled how being so intimate and touchy on stage is ok but actually coming out is something koreans wont tolerate.
Regarding jm, I think he really is gay or at least bi. In us he's being more confident. He is always touchy with the members and I think they are used to that.
Taekook have been very careful on camera, with some things tae said in recent live that were questionable. I do think jk and tae are still close, being good friends or more who knows, but at this point everything we see on camera is deliberate. I think what fuels this taekook thing is a lot of b1ghits shady behavior. if there is nothing there more than mere fan service and playful fun, why do they edit their content, restrict taekook interaction on stage and even take out taekook videos from YouTube. If it's all in the fans heads why they do that? That only fuels this rumor more.

Regarding the fans, it really is twisted and toxic how they go after each other and members to fulfill their shipping fantasies. It is not healthy for teenage kids to earn to see members being with one another than normal relationships with whoever they choose. They bash on members, they spread hate and act crazy yes. But in such large and diverse fandom that attracts outcasts a lot you can expect a lot of irrational behaviour.

Regarding members sexuality, I think the focus is on the maknae line. Maybe they are all tried things one another maybe not. They all live and spend a lot of time together and maybe were even forced to things with one another. Tae has always been very conscious about others touching him sexually, also from early clips I have seen. He doesn't like it.

Yes but in the early videos they used to be teenagers. Now they are grown up men acting like kids. Some of them do it for the fans. But other prefer to act immature. I agree with @Truthteller there are many many videos out there. You can see that they might be having flings with each other all the time. There is a video where genie is kissing vİİ. Another H0pe is grabbing Jamal behind etc. The list goes on and on.

 

[Chic]

My observation:
Taehyung doesn’t like to be touched, but he sure likes to touch others (cough cough jungkook). I mean how could anyone deny all the evidence of him inappropriately touching JK and some other members from all these years. Remeber when he licked cream off of Jin’s lips or brought his face super close? There is a clip of him literally groping JK’s crotch during an award show when Jk was annoying him. He is just a top guy if you know what I mean. It wouldnt make sense for members to be involved romantically within the same group sure, but is is not unheard of eg Edawn and Hyuna comes to mind. Who is there to stop it especially when these groups start off so young and might start developing feelings/attractions for one another? I personally saw a lot off with the vlive, sure nothing inappropriate but would you expect them to dry hump one another if they were a couple? Real life couples don’t behave inappropriately in public or on camera, especially when trying to hide it. For some reason taehyung likes to keep it strictly platonic with Jimin and doesnt reciprocate the seemingly ”friendly” touches or initiate. But they do have some moments where they both come across as super gay: Let me bring back the legendary, I don’t think they realized how authentically gay this looked.n

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1128780096624574471

Ignore the interactions, just look at them individually, no straight man would behave like this, period.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/963017279729356800

https://twitter.com/noofjjiv/status/1077467021997211648?s=20

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1004309759925686273

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/953136739421339648

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1047670433028493313

And sure this is fan service because they are on stage
https://twitter.com/9795JKTH/status/1114064917139603456?s=20

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EvKSVbbkYqU

Lmao! Some of these I've never seen. Yeeeeah. Like I said once before, I think they've experimented with each other if you catch my drift. It's one thing to goof around and do some stuff like this to annoy the other person, but it's a different story when you're brushing up against them or wiping/licking icing off of their lips. And some of this is probably encouraged by their team..
I honestly can't tell who is straight in this group anymore. My guess is J1n and RM, but I don't know anymore!

 

[Truthteller]

Lmao! Some of these I've never seen. Yeeeeah. Like I said once before, I think they've experimented with each other if you catch my drift. It's one thing to goof around and do some stuff like this to annoy the other person, but it's a different story when you're brushing up against them or wiping/licking icing off of their lips. And some of this is probably encouraged by their team..
I honestly can't tell who is straight in this group anymore. My guess is J1n and RM, but I don't know amymore!

These are only some examples, between him and JK is is mostly off cam, captured by some hawked ey fans, I mean he literally grabbed his crotch, if you open the youtube video. Also I don’t think so, because namjoon looks awkards as hell and Jk is pissed. So no, deny all you want folks there is too much off cam evidence out there. He has matured now, but Taehyung is no angel, he just likes to be dominant. Reasons why I don’t believe Jungkook and Jimin are thing, aside from the lack of chemistry, as the saying goes two bottoms don’t make a top! Sorry if I am being explicit. This is from when they were very young, most people thought he whispered, but during the slow motion you see he kissed the ear. I think this was impuslive behaviour in a hormonal teenager.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/687278551209410560

 

[Chic]

"Two bottoms don't make a top" LOLOL! @Truthteller so wait...what do you mean about NJ being awkward and JK pissed?

Yeah he's awkward and clumsy. But if I had to guess who is the straight one, I'd say he is along with J1n. Now? I don't know anymore especially after one of you said Bang-nim may have a preference for him since he is the favorite. Now, that's something I can't unsee!

 

[Deadlylady]

These are only some examples, between him and JK is is mostly off cam, captured by some hawked ey fans, I mean he literally grabbed his crotch, if you open the youtube video. Also I don’t think so, because namjoon looks awkards as hell and Jk is pissed. So no, deny all you want folks there is too much off cam evidence out there. He has matured now, but Taehyung is no angel, he just likes to be dominant. Reasons why I don’t believe Jungkook and Jimin are thing, aside from the lack of chemistry, as the saying goes two bottoms don’t make a top! Sorry if I am being explicit.

And its funny how Vii acts all emotional for the fans while in reality he hooks up with every member he can get. I though nj and Jamal were together but it seems that their relationship doesn't last long. They keep changing partners within the group?

 

[cadiz]

what do you guys think of this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130177191361286144

The president and his wife show a very biased behavior
We can see the president likes him so much better than the others.....a full hug to him and only hand shake for the others

 

[Chic]

Lol, that was an assumption of mine. I'm not sure if it's true or not. However, Bang Pd probably has messed with all of the boys, but I suspect that he would like Namjoon more, because he has a lot of freedom compared to the others.

Lol! It was you!! Thanks a lot! Hahaha! I'm kidding. We're all assuming things here. But I wouldn't put it past Bang if he or staff has messed with any of them. Remember those dinners he posted with each member? Ugh!
I still think something is up with him not having a girl group by now. That makes absolutely no sense to me and the fans are big time company stans who don't see a problem with this. How sexist can he be!

 

[cadiz]

And its funny how Vii acts all emotional for the fans while in reality he hooks up with every member he can get. I though nj and Jamal were together but it seems that their relationship doesn't last long. They keep changing partners within the group?

they all do sexual fanservice with each other

I dont believe any of them are "in love" or in a serious relationship with eachother
sexual encounters??' probably....but not only within the group....dont forget Bang PD and all the powerful people that might like them

If you watch Jimin shipping videos you will be convinced he is having affairs with every member...it makes no difference

 

[Chic]

what do you guys think of this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1130177191361286144

The president and his wife show a very biased behavior
We can see the president likes him so much better than the others.....a full hig to him and only hand shake for the others

Hmmm...well if it's true about him being born into it (apprentice) I can see why he got a preferential hug.

 

[Truthteller]

"Two bottoms don't make a top" LOLOL! @Truthteller so wait...what do you mean about NJ being awkward and JK pissed?

Yeah he's awkward and clumsy. But if I had to guess who is the straight one, I'd say he is along with J1n. Now? I don't know anymore especially after one of you said Bang-nim may have a preference for him since he is the favorite. Now, that's something I can't unsee!

I mean that namjoon was WTF and Jungkook was jealous. Honestly the most obvious thing that pertains to me between V and JK as to their relationship is the obvious jealousy which they haven’t been able to hide all these years, if they are just friends why get jealous when one of them gets close with another person? Note that 99% of the time this is not with other BTS members, but sometimes it happens, mostly in the past though. I don’t plan to post this because this is not a shipping thread, but the most recent example was when Taehyung mentioned his friend Bogum and JK rolled his eyes very bad. There are tons of examples, feel free to look them up.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1099330814125400065

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1123995455405404160

Bogum and Jk have a long history, obviously JK hate the dude. He even asked Bogum or me to V once.

I have done a lgbt analysis of namjoon feel free to find it my content, and my conclusion is that NOT Straight, not gay, busexual most likely, perhaps with a preference for women. But that guy is down with other dudes too. If anyone is straight in BTS if is Jin.