BTS discussion thread

[Hopeful]

Something is going on with fansites.. They aren't allowed in the fansign maybe the last one and they're forming a union and trying to sue b1gh1t? Suing b1gh1t won't get anyone anywhere but these are the poeple who get paid by b1gh1t.. It's just a confusing scenario now.. I mean these fansites are no less than sasaengs.. They're provided with tickets hotels and flight schedules.. Just a few days back eternal diamond one of h0b1s fansite said she is stopping this.. Now i kind of feel she was just backing away from this drama that was beginning to stir.. These fansites have many secrets of the idols and protect the image of them for the company

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121867015927427072

 

[WhiteSnowflakesN]

Hello everyone!

Today I saw BigHit uploaded a new music video of "Boy with love (boylover aka p***philia)" and it looked almost the same. Except the scenes I mentioned before in my analyzis has been changed. I have the feeling BigHit is monitoring this forum. What do you guys think?

That's possible. But, why would they care?

 

[NotDelulu]

Something is going on with fansites.. They aren't allowed in the fansign maybe the last one and they're forming a union and trying to sue b1gh1t? Suing b1gh1t won't get anyone anywhere but these are the poeple who get paid by b1gh1t.. It's just a confusing scenario now.. I mean these fansites are no less than sasaengs.. They're provided with tickets hotels and flight schedules.. Just a few days back eternal diamond one of h0b1s fansite said she is stopping this.. Now i kind of feel she was just backing away from this drama that was beginning to stir.. These fansites have many secrets of the idols and protect the image of them for the company

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121867015927427072

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First of all it means the same people go to these events all the time and other, poorer or less powerful fans, lose their spot because if them.
I dont want to pity them but i wonder why bighit excluded them this time and how they are planning to sue when bighit will claim its a lottery.
But still they sound extremely entiteled to me, these mega fans

 

[NotDelulu]

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Maybe that persona is what they company made up for him. Maybe he isn’t as playful and bubbly on real life. I don’t know...

I wonder if he really played the other persona for years, in all of the variety shows, vlives, performances.. could he really fake it for so long? I think not.
I think they broke him

 

[NotDelulu]

Some of you may recall during the promotions for Tear, YG (Candy--I like that pseudo name for him) was the one who looked downcasted and done with it all. We talked about it. We've talked about them all.

Idk. It's really hard to tell which ones are unhappy and which ones are satisfied. Using TH as an example since he's the one who looks dejected this go round (and previous times), someone made a good observation a page or 2 ago about him having to deal with all of the fame and not having the freedom like normal people have. I really think it depends on one's temperament in how they will handle the fame and all that comes along with it. Some people may want it, but they're not truly cut out for it. Just think about how they start entertainers out so young! It's all so deceiving starting at a young age when they can't assess the pros and cons but only see what's presented to them in a shiny, beautiful package. They may have ambition, but that can only take you so far before greed takes over.

To me--from what I've seen--YG and TH seem like they are the most detached. JM (so cleverly referred to as Jamal on here lol) is the most insecure. SJ, the eldest, would likely be the one to rebel *if* any of them ever were to do so. The rest of the members are harder to read.

You are right. Yoongi looks alive only during performances, other times he looks like he dispises all of them. Tae really looks detached. I wonder if the other members show any support or just ignore his pain. Maybe they are told not to help even if they want, who knows ( i dont think him and jk are a couple). Someone said hes not living with the rest of them, maybe this way they can cause more damage to him without others noticing

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

Something is going on with fansites.. They aren't allowed in the fansign maybe the last one and they're forming a union and trying to sue b1gh1t? Suing b1gh1t won't get anyone anywhere but these are the poeple who get paid by b1gh1t.. It's just a confusing scenario now.. I mean these fansites are no less than sasaengs.. They're provided with tickets hotels and flight schedules.. Just a few days back eternal diamond one of h0b1s fansite said she is stopping this.. Now i kind of feel she was just backing away from this drama that was beginning to stir.. These fansites have many secrets of the idols and protect the image of them for the company

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121867015927427072

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suing bighit will getting them nowhere, that company is scary with all the connection they have

 

[Truthteller]

It is possible to fake it.There is an acquaintance who had to fake a personality and they did it for around 8 years because,reasons. Then, one day,they were like,"I'm starting to become too fake.Let us take a break" and they did a 180 degree flip,freaking out everyone.But,over time,they managed to get a balance between the two.
Besides,this guy is playing a part,a character in this mega show about a boy group(the whole bt5 project) produced by their boss.It is only natural to be off-character once in a while.
And his stance in those red carpet photos with hands behind his back and the way he stood,it is very telling that he feels superior to the rest of the group.It's not that he is done with them,it is rather that he feels that he is more deserving and doesn't want to associate with them.And in some earlier posts,it was pointed out that he was in a higher degree than the rest of them earlier and that,they closed in the gap pretty quickly.So,it could be more of an anger that they did so easily what he took so long and worked so hard.It won't even be a surprise if he leaves the group and pursues acting.The new contract is not about them singing.It's about the company owning them,whatever they do over the next 7 years,to ensure that it still gets royalties from their old music and any of their new pursuits.Actually,the company needs him more as it appears that he draws in more international fans,meaning more money.

I am sorry but this kind of behaviour is not ”normal” in anyone in the long run regardless of personality or profession. If personalities are fake they will show through somehow, do you really think it is possible to script an enire personality 24/7? If it were possible they would to something about Suga who has one of the most anti climactic attitudes, which he has confessed to large part due to him being an introvert with social anxiety and depression. Yet people have come to accept Suga because he has always been this way, yet Taehyung is different, has always been pretty extroverted and social and his off cam moments support this. IMO is the most troubled member, I never got as bad of a vibe from Suga as I get from him now. The other members also know about his troubles, but there is only that much you can do. Saw a clip where Jimin said the thing that makes him happy, someone said the cliche Army but Jimin negated and it is Taehyung’s eye smile at a fan sign which suggests that he knows about the situation, aka he wants to see a genuine smile on him. The rest is up to professional help. Nevertheless anxiety and depression is extremely common in the music industry , studies show that up to 65% of musicians and their staff suffer from it. Being in the public eye and having other personal problems makes matters even worse.

 

[SHinEeHeaven]

fame comes with a prize....we see this situation repeated all the time
Celebrities get all this fame, money and popularity but for some reason they start looking sad and depressed

This already happened with Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Demi Lovato, etc....and just look at Brintey Spears situation....once she was the biggest star alive and now??? she is a robot that cant even drive on her own

in BTS some of them are enjoying the fame to the fullest (RM and JK ) while others like V are looking sad and bored
Maybe it depends on the person and what type of sacrifices they have to do to get there

But fans dont really care ....they just want to be entertained and get more BTS "fun" videos and concerts

this is just speculation, may be V is looking sad because he is the one who required to make sacrifices for the group? others might not have to do, when I saw those post about him, I remembered Kanye West, he always have those fake smiles, because he was so depressed because he have sacrificed his mother, so I am guessing might be the same for V

and fans oh...I am disgusted with them, I just have discussion with one of the blind fans, they care NOTHING but only entertainment, fandom are just...no comment

 

[Deadlylady]

Princes of pop?They?Hmm,interesting.
Do you guys know that Jb1eber is called prince of pop,Br1t spears princess of pop,Mj king of pop and Mad0nna Queen of pop?
And someone in other thread,I think said something about kings,queens,barons,earls,princes,princesses,priests,priestesses etc being the many levels in occult and that these titles indicate at which level someone is in the occult.
So,interesting.
You guys might've heard about backmasking,right?There is one more technique where an image is attached to the music in such a way that when someone hears that particular music,the attached image is burnished into the subconscious,like a visual subliminal.
They say that if one puts a song through spectrum analyzer and run the spectrogram,one can see if there is any image in it.It became famous with Aph3x tw1n song(equation/formula) where the singer's face appeared at the end.If you are interested,you can run any of bt5's mp3s on a spectrum analyzer.Maybe there are any images.Now this is just a suggestion but,that bl,sw &ts might have something interesting.This is a link for an analyzer.
https://academo.org/demos/spectrum-analyzer/

I looked up that website.

I uploaded that luv song.
This was the end

 

[Truthteller]

But Kanye is bipolar, so being sad and depressed is just a part of his life. It might not have to do with this stuff. People with this disorder at one point of time during the year are really depressed. Then it switches to very happy. This goes on until they die.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1120008184272490497

Vii is an emotional person. He likes art, he even draws. So if he isn't getting along with one member that alone can mess him up. They are together 24/7 during those promotions and touring.


Earlier you guys were talking about this I think:
It looks like he is getting even angrier when jamal says that.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1122221169426554880

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119863625194205185

Look how members get worried when they ask him if he want to make it right with someone on live tv. And they crack up when he mentions something irrelevant. Even candy smiled at that. Genie borderline scared or is it just me?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119873379635552256

And also feels like those 2 have a love/hate relationship. And you don't want to get on Jamal bad side.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1122138606167121920

I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:
https://twitter.com/kimvanadium/status/1121251023094292480?s=20
His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?
https://twitter.com/aroharmybaby/status/1116347866543345665?s=20
More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.
https://twitter.com/loverofoptimism/status/1119960924264095745?s=20

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.

 

[Chic]

I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121251023094292480

His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1116347866543345665

More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119960924264095745

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.

That is a thought.

 

[Deadlylady]

I don’t see any tension between him and Jimin or any other member which is apparent. If anything it looks like Jimin is concerned about him and wants to see him happier. On the other hand there have been hints at conflicts/ troubles with his family:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121251023094292480

His backstory for his story tells that his fictional character is sandwiched between to loved siblings (he has 2 siblings himself) and wants out from a suffocating life with the family and just wants to be accepted by his father. Who knows maybe it is his own story?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1116347866543345665

More hints that he can’t be himself around his family. Says BTS members know him the best, even more than his own family during recent interview.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1119960924264095745

This paired with the solos written for him to sing (which he confirmed have a theme sorrow and are personal but never fully disclosed) raise my suspicion even more. Many believe Stigma is heavily lgbt coded and the lyrics explicitly talk about shame and guilt aroud family members (brother and sister). Singularity is also about hiding behind a mask and not being able to be yourself. He also cries during another song which is about hiding who you truly are from your loved ones but still wanting their affection. Perhaps if the speculations that he is lgbt are true, it would be explained by the fact the hasnt come out to his family and is scared of rejection.

But we don't know if that made up story is actually his real background.

Being constantly away from your family brother, sister for months/years. Seeing them only a couple of times a year is not enough. Even talking on a phone after a while gets hard to do. This gets people estranged from each other. And if his sister was younger then she never got the chance to grow up with him and teenage years are important. Being away this much could of lead his siblings not to care about him or not want to get in contact with him anymore.

Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like they do fight. It wouldn't be normal if they didn't anyways.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1096331168281174016

 

[Truthteller]

But we don't know if that made up story is actually his real background.

Being constantly away from your family brother, sister for months/years. Seeing them only a couple of times a year is not enough. Even talking on a phone after a while gets hard to do. This gets people estranged from each other. And if his sister was younger then she never got the chance to grow up with him and teenage years are important. Being away this much could of lead his siblings not to care about him or not want to get in contact with him anymore.

Maybe I'm wrong but I feel like they do fight. It wouldn't be normal if they didn't anyways.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1096331168281174016

Of course not, it is merely a theory not fact, based on several instances of him mentioning his family, such as the fact that he used to mention them a lot before and has stopped doing so and saying they dont know him. Of course it makes sense for members to fight, it is only normal, but that is different to a long dispute/conflict. Nevetheless parents are different to siblings, the emotional attachment between a parent and child is different. Distance from family affecs a lot of idols, but I dont think parents would ever stop caring about their child. Truth is the exact cause of his poor mental state is not known, mostly likely mutiple factors contribute. Working in the satanic music industry alone is a risk factor, let alone if other problems are involved. There is a reason all these young celebrities who feel like they should be on top of the world suffer immensely (although a lot of them have been though abuse and come from broken families).

 

[Idklol1234]

It is possible to fake it.There is an acquaintance who had to fake a personality and they did it for around 8 years because,reasons. Then, one day,they were like,"I'm starting to become too fake.Let us take a break" and they did a 180 degree flip,freaking out everyone.But,over time,they managed to get a balance between the two.
Besides,this guy is playing a part,a character in this mega show about a boy group(the whole bt5 project) produced by their boss.It is only natural to be off-character once in a while.
And his stance in those red carpet photos with hands behind his back and the way he stood,it is very telling that he feels superior to the rest of the group.It's not that he is done with them,it is rather that he feels that he is more deserving and doesn't want to associate with them.And in some earlier posts,it was pointed out that he was in a higher degree than the rest of them earlier and that,they closed in the gap pretty quickly.So,it could be more of an anger that they did so easily what he took so long and worked so hard.It won't even be a surprise if he leaves the group and pursues acting.The new contract is not about them singing.It's about the company owning them,whatever they do over the next 7 years,to ensure that it still gets royalties from their old music and any of their new pursuits.Actually,the company needs him more as it appears that he draws in more international fans,meaning more money.

There’s this youtuber called Christina who used to be a kpop idol and trainee and I watched old clips of her as an idol (I can’t remember if it was her reviewing herself as an idol or just the clip) but as an idol she had dyed bright blonde hair and was super bubbly and loud and cheery and when watching herself she said how her company told her to be this bubbly person (irl she’s really quiet and introverted)
I’ll try and find the video.
Also ages ago, maybe in 2016? I remember reading an interview with bighit ceo bang*** and he said how he drew inspiration from animes such as naruto to cultivate bts personas. Interesting.
I can’t find the interview anymore but its out there somewhere lol

 

[Allegra]

KPOP group idols personality is always been fabricated. But even with this knowledge, fans and non fans are still taking the bait and they like/judge the idols based on what they see on screen.

I'm interested what do you think of N4mj00n? I read before some people think he could be a handler? He's smart and what not, they could use him for other works.
Also, I think Vii is kinda looking up to him? But that's what I saw back then when I was a fan/shipper lol so plz don't take this one seriously. I quit all of those. I don't follow them anymore.

 

[Idklol1234]

KPOP group idols personality is always been fabricated. But even with this knowledge, fans and non fans are still taking the bait and they like/judge the idols based on what they see on screen.

I'm interested what do you think of N4mj00n? I read before some people think he could be a handler? He's smart and what not, they could use him for other works.
Also, I think Vii is kinda looking up to him? But that's what I saw back then when I was a fan/shipper lol so plz don't take this one seriously. I quit all of those. I don't follow them anymore.

It’s hard to tell with Namjoon. When I first read this forum I totally believed him to be the bad guy and I could picture it and see it so clearly. But now, I’m not so sure. I feel like he’s done more/ responisible for more than the others, but I also feel like he is just as innocent and also a victim.
As for Tae looking up to Namjoon, I agree and I thought the same when I read the Wings memory book (forgot the name but the big Wings book) and Tae talked about how he feels like he let Namjoon down and is thankful to him etc, and this showed when they worked on 4 o’clock together. Namjoon is the main reason why Tae is in bts so, it makes sense.

 

[Deadlylady]

KPOP group idols personality is always been fabricated. But even with this knowledge, fans and non fans are still taking the bait and they like/judge the idols based on what they see on screen.

I'm interested what do you think of N4mj00n? I read before some people think he could be a handler? He's smart and what not, they could use him for other works.
Also, I think Vii is kinda looking up to him? But that's what I saw back then when I was a fan/shipper lol so plz don't take this one seriously. I quit all of those. I don't follow them anymore.

I heard that he was the first chosen member. So they tried to make a group that fits with him in the middle. He is their "leader" so its his duty to "handle" the group. When fights happens between members he has to make them talk it out and make peace etc. I've seen him manage Vii especialy. He does have different character, does act weird/childish sometimes. He talks gibberish sometimes. I don't know if that's him or his fake character. After performances they have to pull him sometimes or get along with his state of mind sometimes. Maybe that's why he says the members knows him better than his family. I don't think Korean families would accept that kind of attitude from their son. Being with them he has continued acting like a kid a little.

And Monsta is smart since he has learned a language by himself. He does write some lyrics and his name is almost always seen on the songs info. He might talk with artists they want to collab with but other than that I don't see him doing anything special. The company handles most of it.

 

[Allegra]

It’s hard to tell with Namjoon. When I first read this forum I totally believed him to be the bad guy and I could picture it and see it so clearly. But now, I’m not so sure. I feel like he’s done more/ responisible for more than the others, but I also feel like he is just as innocent and also a victim.

I see... yes he's too, a victim.
But one thing for sure, he knows better than the rest of members. The book he's reading and other dark philosophy and occult/satanic in the core.

I've seen him manage Vii especialy. He does have different character, does act weird/childish sometimes. He talks gibberish sometimes. I don't know if that's him or his fake character. After performances they have to grab him sometimes or get along with his state of mind sometimes. Maybe that's why he says the members knows him better than his family. I don't think Korean families would accept that kind of attiture from their son. Being with them he has continued acting like a kid/not mature.

Hmm, like how do you think he managed Vii?

And wow, "after performances they have to grab him sometimes"

wait what?! what do u mean?

 

[Shuna]

Va_n of BT_21 represents the third column of Freemasonry, I still mark everything, but I made some additions to my column article: Voir the colomns of Freemason:
http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/symbolisme-des-colonnes-a161738380

 

[Hopeful]

Va_n of BT_21 represents the third column of Freemasonry, I still mark everything, but I made some additions to my column article: Voir the colomns of Freemason:
http://mysteriesofworld.eklablog.com/symbolisme-des-colonnes-a161738380

Bt21 is going to have a collaboration with hell 0 kitty..
And the second brand is surrounded by some creepy background stories.. Even lady g4g4 wore a hell 0 kityy dress once which was weird
And yes van occupies the middle position in many Bt21 pictures