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TempestOfTempo

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FFS please don't lump me in with those guys (no offense Tempest and Awoken, I'm sure you understand) I only called out your ridiculousness, I did not personally attack you, so by lumping me I will just assume you are playing the victim again in order to avoid discussion. The other two can't seem to avoid resorting to ad hominem, like, ever, so I do understand your frustration.
"No offense" but then you "lump" me in with another poster after whining about VenDerZone here doing it to you. Cant seem to resort? Ad hominem? See a dictionary man......
Newsflash, Awaken2 and I aint some sort of tag team..... never even met each other before. But we think alike on many topics and we stand up for what we believe in . There are other posters here who are consistent like that, and even if I dont agree with them, I can respect the fact that at least the believe in what they are conveying.
 

TempestOfTempo

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You would be grumpy too if Temp and Asleep followed you in every thread. Oh wait ... LOL

Not when you are simply trying to have a conversation in a conversation forum.

I mention I am going to work and cannot continue conversations and riff and raff fall all over themselves to out-post each other taking shots when they know I am not there. It is really quite pathetic when people are so emptional they can't control themselves.
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What exactly is your malfunction? The people you do not get along with you belittle and look stupid doing so. Seek your GED if you have them in the UK and we will catch back up. I find those who hurl petty insults are not that intelligent and incapable of multitasking or seeing the big picture. You know the can't see the forest for the tree's bit.


The computer actually in the office backdrop. See my ability to multitask comment. You can throw your bullshit out all day but it will not stick and makes you seem petty, ignorant and OBSESSED. b Where I post you follow. Where anyone disagrees with me, you like their posts. Get out of my life lane and get one of your own You are punk.


So, you want me to ignore work and respond, right now?
"You would be grumpy too if Temp and Asleep followed you in every thread"
"you seem petty, ignorant and OBSESSED. b Where I post you follow"
Everyone can see that you show up in threads and start ish.... then get handled...... then blather for a while..... then go silent...... then reappear in a different thread to complete your wash & rinse cycle. It happens over and over again. I wont speak for anyone else but I dont come online to the VC site looking for your comments. You show up and derail dialog, just as you have here, then whine when you receive blowback for your own actions. You cant even keep your story straight or maintain your composure here with posters whom were actually taking you seriously and trying for a meaningful conversation. Thats because you aint interested in meaningful conversation..... you are interested in drama. Everytime.
 
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"No offense" but then you "lump" me in with another poster after whining about VenDerZone here doing it to you. Cant seem to resort? Ad hominem? See a dictionary man......
Newsflash, Awaken2 and I aint some sort of tag team..... never even met each other before. But we think alike on many topics and we stand up for what we believe in . There are other posters here who are consistent like that, and even if I dont agree with them, I can respect the fact that at least the believe in what they are conveying.
hey I'm nothing but a radical far-left tradition-destroying evil progressive who wants to harm children according to you, right? gimme a break dude. Go whine to someone else. I don't play your games, sorry.
 
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TempestOfTempo

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hey I'm nothing but a radical far-left evil tradition-destroying progressive who wants to harm children according to you, right? gimme a break dude. Go cry to someone else. I don't play your games, sorry.
So you mention me and when I respond, thats "crying"? Buck up man.........radical far left etc etc...... when did I EVER make such a contention about you?
 

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If you see a group of MAGA hats in public, at this point we shouldn't just assume they are not street thugs in gang attire. ya know..just to be safe. Keep your distance, folks.
Are you sipping wine again? Anyhow, now that you mention it, I have never seen a group of people wearing those caps. In fact, I never see them and am out and about quite a bit. It is funny how we see these caps galore on TV but not so much in everyday life. Most Trump support types I know are low key and not wanting the attention. I do not think it was the intent that this hat design to be triggering, but it is. Even so, I do not think all the wearers (which I never see) are total racist save the lunatic fringe.

Lastly, Trump is the ultimate distraction, isn't he? So much else is going on which involves personal freedom which many are signing away with user agreements willingly in that they must have the web.
 
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Are you sipping wine again?
if you don't like my posts you can kiss my hairy white a$$ :cool:
Anyhow, now that you mention it, I have never seen a group of people wearing those caps. In fact, I never see them and am out and about quite a bit. It is funny how we see these caps galore on TV but not so much in everyday life. Most Trump support types I know are low key and not wanting the attention. I do not think it was the intent that this hat design to be triggering, but it is. Even so, I do not think all the wearers (which I never see) are total racist save the lunatic fringe.

Lastly, Trump is the ultimate distraction, isn't he? So much else is going on which involves personal freedom which many are signing away with user agreements willingly in that they must have the web.
The lunatic fringe is getting more and more emboldened it seems. As a hetero, cisgender, white male, I'm certainly not worried for my own sake, but for anyone "other"... I would not feel safe in their shoes. Would you?
 

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Casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, wife gave $500K to Trump campaign's legal defense fund
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/casino-mogul-sheldon-adelson-wife-gave-500k-trump/story?id=60768531
A point of.particular interest here is around the 2 minute mark. Here you will see the controlled demolition of the sands hotel in 1996. What's important to note is that the building was professionally rigged to get levelled but it actually took LONGER to hit the floor than WT7 did a few years later through fire alone. Buildings similar in size and both owned by Jewish billionaires.


Seems like a perfectly nice guy to me....what could possibly go wrong?
 

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I don’t have the patience to go through that whole list @The Zone ive been intending to get to it since you posted it but just can’t bring myself to do so properly, didn’t have the time all week and now I don’t have the patience..

But I will say this.. unemployment is down but the “jobs” being created are low pay, no benefits, less than full employment. This was a problem under obama as well and has been going on since the 2008 crash (if not before then). Even when the economy recovered companies just seemed to continue using it to exploit workers even when it is no longer necessary (it was never really necessary to begin with) people were desperate for work so they could get away with it and now it’s just become status quo. The economic boom has only benefited people concentrated at the top, it has not trickled down. This criticism also applies to the corporate tax cuts.

As for the individual tax cuts - yes the standard deduction was doubled, however personal exemptions were eliminated which actually harmed families with more than one child. I know quite a few middle class families who are paying an effective tax rate 10-20% higher than in years past - between the loss of exemptions, the inability to write off certain expenses they used to be able to write off etc. Plus we are in the northeast so the cap on writing off property taxes has hurt a whole lot of people since the northeast has very high property taxes. When we had personal exemptions the first 28k I made was exempt, now it’s 24k. This wouldn’t make a difference to anyone making poverty wages or to someone making far more but when I’m right on the line every year it makes a big difference to me and I personally got screwed by the changes.

Everybody sees things from their own lens it seems and I suspect some people will change their tune after doing their taxes but idk.

I remember the world prior to the 2008 crash, I just wish we could go back to it. I graduated college the year before and things were good they have never been good again ever since. That’s all I’m saying. As far as I’m concerned Obama sucked too.

I’d love to see a president that truly cared about and prioritized the American working people (above the elite and the corporations etc) but in all my life there’s only been one candidate who seemed to fit that bill and he was robbed. All the people announcing they are running in 2020... massively flawed as well. So idk. But trump ain’t it, even though he seems to have convinced enough people he is. (How, I’ll never understand) And maybe sanders wouldn’t have been it had he been elected either, idk. The only time anything has changed for us is when we banded together and fought for it and people nowadays seem to damn lazy to lift a finger.
 

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Isn't kinda odd that Trump promised to pull troops out Syria but now he has a military option on the table for Venezuela? Inotherwords, pull them of one country and send them to another....
Abandoning the US petro-dollar standard (BRICS?), a democratically elected leader whom draws a clear mandate from the people and the worlds largest reserves of oil spell the music sheets as the media plays the tune for our tone-deaf and blind-at-the-heart Conductor In Thief.........
 

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So, who can explain how Venezuela will right itself with no intervention? How many know what is actually happening there on a day to day basis. So, it is only Trumps fault the US pulls out of ME while possibly going south? Are some of you not paying attention to Venezuela's plight? People are hungry.

I will get back to you soon Jess. I am not supporting Trump, just that some are not objective.
 
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So, who can explain how Venezuela will right itself with no intervention? How many know what is actually happening there on a day to day basis. So, it is only Trumps fault the US pulls out of ME while possibly going south? Are some of you not paying attention to Venezuela's plight? People are hungry.

I will get back to you soon Jess. I am not supporting Trump, just that some are not objective.

Name me one instance of US intervention that has worked.
 
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