Abortion In Christianity

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Well, kill = kill.
I know some argue that life begins at later intervals, or at birth, etc. I take the stand that life begins at conception, at the very least, at conception. Some think the potential for life in the sperm and the ovum does signify life....not sure about that yet.
Psalm 139 speaks of the infant in the womb,
For thou hast possessed my reins: thou hast covered me in my mother's womb.
14 I will praise thee; for I am fearfullyand wonderfully made: marvellous are thy works; and that my soul knoweth right well.
15 My substance was not hidfrom thee, when I was made in secret, and curiously wrought in the lowest parts of the earth.
16 Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all my members were written, which in continuance were fashioned, when as yet there was none of them.
http://www.rayfowler.org/sermons/psalms/the-sanctity-of-human-life-in-the-womb-psalm-139/
 

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This is where I agree with etagloc's point in which he quite emotionally defended emotionalism.

In real life, one needs to make connections with people in order to affect them. The lack of emotion is not synonymous with logic. Maybe in a science or math class the lack of this human quality is ideal, but not when dealing with real people in real life issues.
Of course, emotions should be checked, but not at the point where one appears to lack empathy or compassion.
Let's not lose our unique ability that we humans share as we empathize with one another in order to minister to each other.
I am a human. I am not a robot. They told Malcolm X the same thing. To "not be emotional". You call it emotionalism but I call it being human. I call it passion. If Malcolm X had complied with people's demands to not be passionate.... he would have totally lost what made him who he was. In any case, passion is style. Content is substance. If a person lacks the critical thinking capacity to distinguish style from substance, that's their problem for being superficial and not being able to distinguish appearance from reality. But anyways, passion is good. It's part of what makes a leader a leader. Any great leader has to have passion. I find it very hard to imagine Napoleon not having passion or being able to inspire his troops without having passion. We have to embrace our humanity and reject any attempts to make us into robots.

Anyways, I already posted the scriptural view of abortion. This is the scriptural view from an unbiased and objective source. Since people did not want to click the link, I'll go ahead and post the text.

Question: "What does the Bible say about abortion?"

Answer:
The Bible never specifically addresses the issue of abortion. However, there are numerous teachings in Scripture that make it abundantly clear what God’s view of abortion is. Jeremiah 1:5 tells us that God knows us before He forms us in the womb. Psalm 139:13-16 speaks of God’s active role in our creation and formation in the womb. Exodus 21:22-25 prescribes the same penalty—death—for someone who causes the death of a baby in the womb as for someone who commits murder. This clearly indicates that God considers a baby in the womb to be as human as a full-grown adult. For the Christian, abortion is not a matter of a woman’s right to choose. It is a matter of the life or death of a human being made in God’s image (Genesis 1:26-27; 9:6).

The first argument that always arises against the Christian stance on abortion is “What about cases of r*pe and/or incest?” As horrible as it would be to become pregnant as a result of r*pe and/or incest, is the murder of a baby the answer? Two wrongs do not make a right. The child who is a result of r*pe/incest could be given in adoption to a loving family unable to have children on their own, or the child could be raised by its mother. Again, the baby is completely innocent and should not be punished for the evil acts of its father.

The second argument that usually arises against the Christian stance on abortion is “What about when the life of the mother is at risk?” Honestly, this is the most difficult question to answer on the issue of abortion. First, let’s remember that this situation is the reason behind less than one-tenth of one percent of the abortions done in the world today. Far more women have an abortion for convenience than women who have an abortion to save their own lives. Second, let’s remember that God is a God of miracles. He can preserve the life of a mother and a child despite all the medical odds being against it. Ultimately, though, this question can only be decided between a husband, wife, and God. Any couple facing this extremely difficult situation should pray to the Lord for wisdom (James 1:5) as to what He would have them to do.

Over 95 percent of the abortions performed today involve women who simply do not want to have a baby. Less than 5 percent of abortions are for the reasons of r*pe, incest, or the mother's health at risk. Even in the more difficult 5 percent of instances, abortion should never be the first option. The life of a human being in the womb is worth every effort to allow the child to be born.

For those who have had an abortion, remember that the sin of abortion is no less forgivable than any other sin. Through faith in Christ, all sins can be forgiven (John 3:16; Romans 8:1; Colossians 1:14). A woman who has had an abortion, a man who has encouraged an abortion, or even a doctor who has performed one—can all be forgiven by faith in Jesus Christ.

-Got Questions ministries
 

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Got Question Ministries is merely a resource that tries to answer "What is the Bible saying". That's all it is.It simply reports the law, it doesn't make it. It does not have a particular agenda. As opposed to...... pro-abortion action network.... I mean it's pretty clear that they are not an unbiased source and they have an agenda to push

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/bible.shtml

"What do we find when we examine the Scriptures? Regrettably, even a casual search uncovers the most shocking, barbaric, and revolting atrocities, all directly committed, ordered, or condoned by God himself. However, let's put most of these aside for now and confine ourselves solely to the passages that deal with God's murder of children. Unfortunately, there are many. Let's begin with this little gem, a popular story some of us first learned in Sunday school:


What about the suggestion that the function of the sacred fetus is to worship God? No doubt anti-choicers, as Christians, contend that we're all here to worship God, and seen in this light, it would be quite presumptuous for us to deny God any potential worshippers. The obvious corollary to this is that some of these fetuses will not grow up to worship God at all! The implications are horrifying. Anti-choicers insist on bringing into this world children, who not only may be unwanted and may suffer because of that, but who also may be destined to spend an eternity burning in hell!....


They're not even Christian. They're blatantly anti-Christian. If you're a "Christian" who derives their teaching from atheistic, anti-Christian sources.... I mean, you're just not much of a Christian. Your Christianity is about as authentic as the proverbial "salsa from New York".
 

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That's fine and all but as Aero said we become vehement seething beast of rage on the topic of abortion but there are people dying constantly and we're seemingly mute.

I'm not concerned with the emotion of man, I'm not. I want to know and understand God's stance on it. If God specifically says it's bad then it is bad to me but I can't find the Hebrew word for abortion in any bible and only in the diadech.

My spirituality was never about my personal emotion but gaining the mind and heart that God would want.

I can see reasons why one might get an abortion and I can see why one might be against it but I want conclusive scripture in regards to the topic otherwise I feel it is a decision between the woman and man and to the judgement of God.

So unless someone has conclusive scripture and or enough historical evidence to stand I remain neutral to the choice and unable to properly advise my co worker on the nature of it.
Okay, first off, if you can't distinguish my style from my substance- that's a problem in your reading ability, not a problem in my writing ability. Also, correlation does not imply causation. Just because a person is "emotional" regarding an issue does not mean that their interpretation of the issue is derived from their emotions. It may mean the reverse- that their subjective response is derived from their objective analysis. As Martin Luther King (who also could be described as passionate or "emotional") said in his "Give Us the Ballot" speech- "What we are witnessing today in so many northern communities is a sort of quasi-liberalism which is based on the principle of looking sympathetically at all sides. It is a liberalism so bent on seeing all sides, that it fails to become committed to either side. It is a liberalism that is so objectively analytical that it is not subjectively committed. It is a liberalism which is neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm."

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." -Revelation 3:16

Being lukewarm is not a virtue.

And you're not even neutral. Your language betrays your lack of neutrality. "That's fine and all but as Aero said we become vehement seething beast of rage on the topic of abortion but there are people dying constantly and we're seemingly mute.". Where does the Bible teach us to be lukewarm and that we are "beasts of rage" if we are consumed with the zeal for the house of our Lord?

"For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me." -Psalm 69:9

You're trying to make a virtue out of being lukewarm.

You distinguish between abortion and "people dying". So your language reveals that you do not regard a fetus as a person. So you believe a fetus is not a person. This is a pro-abortion position. You are not neutral. We should detest it when a person tries to claim neutrality when this is clearly not reflective of the truth. Your scales are tilted. Perhaps you live in a very liberal area and you don't want to rock the boat and be seen as a fundamentalist so you become a compromising, lukewarm Christian with a soft backbone who will not stand up for what the Bible clearly states- that life begins at conception. If you wish to have a soft, bending back and you wish to be lukewarm and bend at the knee, that is your decision but please do not try to dress it as virtue when it's not.
 

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Got Question Ministries is merely a resource that tries to answer "What is the Bible saying". That's all it is.It simply reports the law, it doesn't make it. It does not have a particular agenda. As opposed to...... pro-abortion action network.... I mean it's pretty clear that they are not an unbiased source and they have an agenda to push

http://www.prochoiceactionnetwork-canada.org/articles/bible.shtml

"What do we find when we examine the Scriptures? Regrettably, even a casual search uncovers the most shocking, barbaric, and revolting atrocities, all directly committed, ordered, or condoned by God himself. However, let's put most of these aside for now and confine ourselves solely to the passages that deal with God's murder of children. Unfortunately, there are many. Let's begin with this little gem, a popular story some of us first learned in Sunday school:


What about the suggestion that the function of the sacred fetus is to worship God? No doubt anti-choicers, as Christians, contend that we're all here to worship God, and seen in this light, it would be quite presumptuous for us to deny God any potential worshippers. The obvious corollary to this is that some of these fetuses will not grow up to worship God at all! The implications are horrifying. Anti-choicers insist on bringing into this world children, who not only may be unwanted and may suffer because of that, but who also may be destined to spend an eternity burning in hell!....


They're not even Christian. They're blatantly anti-Christian. If you're a "Christian" who derives their teaching from atheistic, anti-Christian sources.... I mean, you're just not much of a Christian. Your Christianity is about as authentic as the proverbial "salsa from New York".
Proverbial salsa from new York. That's funny. I don't care who you are. Pass the pace.
 

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Okay, first off, if you can't distinguish my style from my substance- that's a problem in your reading ability, not a problem in my writing ability. Also, correlation does not imply causation. Just because a person is "emotional" regarding an issue does not mean that their interpretation of the issue is derived from their emotions. It may mean the reverse- that their subjective response is derived from their objective analysis. As Martin Luther King (who also could be described as passionate or "emotional") said in his "Give Us the Ballot" speech- "What we are witnessing today in so many northern communities is a sort of quasi-liberalism which is based on the principle of looking sympathetically at all sides. It is a liberalism so bent on seeing all sides, that it fails to become committed to either side. It is a liberalism that is so objectively analytical that it is not subjectively committed. It is a liberalism which is neither hot nor cold, but lukewarm."

"So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth." -Revelation 3:16

Being lukewarm is not a virtue.

And you're not even neutral. Your language betrays your lack of neutrality. "That's fine and all but as Aero said we become vehement seething beast of rage on the topic of abortion but there are people dying constantly and we're seemingly mute.". Where does the Bible teach us to be lukewarm and that we are "beasts of rage" if we are consumed with the zeal for the house of our Lord?

"For the zeal of thine house hath eaten me up; and the reproaches of them that reproached thee are fallen upon me." -Psalm 69:9

You're trying to make a virtue out of being lukewarm.

You distinguish between abortion and "people dying". So your language reveals that you do not regard a fetus as a person. So you believe a fetus is not a person. This is a pro-abortion position. You are not neutral. We should detest it when a person tries to claim neutrality when this is clearly not reflective of the truth. Your scales are tilted. Perhaps you live in a very liberal area and you don't want to rock the boat and be seen as a fundamentalist so you become a compromising, lukewarm Christian with a soft backbone who will not stand up for what the Bible clearly states- that life begins at conception. If you wish to have a soft, bending back and you wish to be lukewarm and bend at the knee, that is your decision but please do not try to dress it as virtue when it's not.
It's whatever you perceive dude.
 

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Got questions Ministries seems like it has an agenda to me. Let's talk about some of the misleading info. The claim was made several times how "only" 5% of abortions involve r*pe, incest or being required to save the woman. They make it sound like a small number, when in fact the actual number would be like 25-50k pregnancies a year.

It's not about all that emotional psycho jargon. It's about people developing tunnel vision and refusing to look at information. You want us to force up to 50,000 women a year to have babies under forceful, violent or traumatizing situations. Because the Bible says thou shal not kill? Then it contradicts itself constantly.

"If the person is from a month old up to five years old, your valuation shall be for a male five shekels of silver, and for a female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver." (Leviticus 27:6) -

So are infants worthless to God?

"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." (Exodus 21:22-25)

This is saying it's ok to kill Abortion providers. And anyone else who happens to cause a miscarriage, if it kills the woman.

"Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master." (Job 3:16-19)

The list goes on with scripture questioning the worth of a life full of suffering. But like I said. Tunnel vision
 

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It's whatever you perceive dude.

Btw Damien, you won't find the word "abortion". In the Hebrew text I mentioned the words used were " infant, rip apart, poison, woman, womb, harm...." all in reference to the commandment do not kill.

So if you are specifically looking for the word " abortion" no you won't find it. No such terminology was used.

However older text do state you are not to rip from the womb, nor poison, nor harm...a fetus or a pregnant woman.
 

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Btw Damien, you won't find the word "abortion". In the Hebrew text I mentioned the words used were " infant, rip apart, poison, woman, womb, harm...." all in reference to the commandment do not kill.

So if you are specifically looking for the word " abortion" no you won't find it. No such terminology was used.

However older text do state you are not to rip from the womb, nor poison, nor harm...a fetus or a pregnant woman.
I was looking for nephel, nephal.
 

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Got questions Ministries seems like it has an agenda to me. Let's talk about some of the misleading info. The claim was made several times how "only" 5% of abortions involve r*pe, incest or being required to save the woman. They make it sound like a small number, when in fact the actual number would be like 25-50k pregnancies a year.

It's not about all that emotional psycho jargon. It's about people developing tunnel vision and refusing to look at information. You want us to force up to 50,000 women a year to have babies under forceful, violent or traumatizing situations. Because the Bible says thou shal not kill? Then it contradicts itself constantly.

"If the person is from a month old up to five years old, your valuation shall be for a male five shekels of silver, and for a female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver." (Leviticus 27:6) -

So are infants worthless to God?

"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." (Exodus 21:22-25)

This is saying it's ok to kill Abortion providers. And anyone else who happens to cause a miscarriage, if it kills the woman.

"Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master." (Job 3:16-19)

The list goes on with scripture questioning the worth of a life full of suffering. But like I said. Tunnel vision
He didn't read the link just searched and found GQ which isn't always reliable concerning scripture.

I read the GQ article but like I said, I wanted conclusive scriptural support to aid in my decision. Only Yahda, Lady, and Jo tried from that perspective.
 

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He didn't read the link just searched and found GQ which isn't always reliable concerning scripture.

I read the GQ article but like I said, I wanted conclusive scriptural support to aid in my decision. Only Yahda, Lady, and Jo tried from that perspective.
Idk if it's conclusive but I like the theme of

Colossians 3:1-7

Living as Those Made Alive in Christ
1 Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.
2 Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.
3 For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
5 Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.
6 Because of these, the wrath of God is coming.
7You used to walk in these ways, in the life you once lived.

There you have it. Creations of sexual immorality should be struck down. One who walks the path of Christ are pressed to uphold these virtues. We shouldn't idolize "life" just for the sake of compassion, because we are made alive by Christ.
 

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Wow.... so y'all will twist the Bible so far from its plain meaning that y'all will actually try to pretend the Bible WANTS women to have abortions..... there is no point in arguing. You can say whatever you want. I am amazed at the gall of how far y'all will twist the Bible from its plain meaning and try to distort what its saying. Maybe y'all are possessed or something. Anyone who can't see the blatant twisting of Colossians 3:1-7..... I mean it's pretty blatant y'all are engaging in mental gymnastics to twist the Bible. Y'all are determined to twist the Bible to fit your preconceived conclusions. We'll all sit between our Maker one day and I'll wait for Him to judge between us. Perhaps y'all can try y'all's mental gymnastics then.
 

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Lol what? I twisted nothing. Take out my 2 sentences and it's just as clear. Paul wasn't writing in riddles, Heresy was rampant. Christians were told to strike down evil
 

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Aero, you showed you did not understand what the bible was saying. You focused on verse 5 only and ignored the context just like cults do.
The commandments where for the Christians THEMSELVES.

all the other English versions: https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Colossians 3:5

Several examples:

NIV Put to death, therefore, whatever belongs to your earthly nature: sexual immorality, impurity, lust, evil desires and greed, which is idolatry.

KJV Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth: fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness which is idolatry.

AMP So put to death and deprive of power the evil longings of your earthly body [with its sensual, self-centered instincts] immorality, impurity, sinful passion, evil desire, and greed, which is [a kind of] idolatry [because it replaces your devotion to God].

ESV Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.

Comparing to other passages help give further insight:
KJV Romans 6: 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.
14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

In those verses members refer to physical parts/ desires of an individual Christian, not other people.
 
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I don't know that I took anything out of context. I didn't make it out to be a claim for the social acceptance of abortion. But for an individual Christian woman, it certainly sounds like she is being taught to cast evil out of her body. If such evil is of sexual immorality, impurity and what not.

Aside from semantics. Paul's message was simple. Not to worry about Earthly things, like the suffering of others. Is it not greed to think you're their savior? Is it not false idolatry? Christ is our only savior, Amen.
 

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Apologies. I didn't notice your conclusion.

Are you suggesting that IF a woman had sex outside of marriage and as a result became pregnant....
Because she sinned in doing so (correct) she is permitted to terminate the pregnancy?
 

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I don't know that I took anything out of context. I didn't make it out to be a claim for the social acceptance of abortion. But for an individual Christian woman, it certainly sounds like she is being taught to cast evil out of her body. If such evil is of sexual immorality, impurity and what not.

Aside from semantics. Paul's message was simple. Not to worry about Earthly things, like the suffering of others. Is it not greed to think you're their savior? Is it not false idolatry? Christ is our only savior, Amen.
He's telling man to conquer his sin from a spiritual perspective to be approved in the eyes of God. It's not condoning or suggesting killing your baby that was conceived as a whore.

It's all about your new spiritual walk in Christ and not being apart of Egypt anymore.
 

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Apologies. I didn't notice your conclusion.

Are you suggesting that IF a woman had sex outside of marriage and as a result became pregnant....
Because she sinned in doing so (correct) she is permitted to terminate the pregnancy?
Read the below

Numbers 5:15-31 KJV
Then shall the man bring his wife unto the priest, and he shall bring her offering for her, the tenth part of an ephah of barley meal; he shall pour no oil upon it, nor put frankincense thereon; for it is an offering of jealousy, an offering of memorial, bringing iniquity to remembrance. [16] And the priest shall bring her near, and set her before the Lord : [17] And the priest shall take holy water in an earthen vessel; and of the dust that is in the floor of the tabernacle the priest shall take, and put it into the water: [18] And the priest shall set the woman before the Lord , and uncover the woman's head, and put the offering of memorial in her hands, which is the jealousy offering: and the priest shall have in his hand the bitter water that causeth the curse: [19] And the priest shall charge her by an oath, and say unto the woman, If no man have lain with thee, and if thou hast not gone aside to uncleanness with another instead of thy husband, be thou free from this bitter water that causeth the curse: [20] But if thou hast gone aside to another instead of thy husband, and if thou be defiled, and some man have lain with thee beside thine husband: [21] Then the priest shall charge the woman with an oath of cursing, and the priest shall say unto the woman, The Lord make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the Lord doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell; [22] And this water that causeth the curse shall go into thy bowels, to make thy belly to swell, and thy thigh to rot: And the woman shall say, Amen, amen. [23] And the priest shall write these curses in a book, and he shall blot them out with the bitter water: [24] And he shall cause the woman to drink the bitter water that causeth the curse: and the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter. [25] Then the priest shall take the jealousy offering out of the woman's hand, and shall wave the offering before the Lord , and offer it upon the altar: [26] And the priest shall take an handful of the offering, even the memorial thereof, and burn it upon the altar, and afterward shall cause the woman to drink the water. [27] And when he hath made her to drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that , if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. [28] And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed. [29] This is the law of jealousies, when a wife goeth aside to another instead of her husband, and is defiled; [30] Or when the spirit of jealousy cometh upon him, and he be jealous over his wife, and shall set the woman before the Lord , and the priest shall execute upon her all this law. [31] Then shall the man be guiltless from iniquity, and this woman shall bear her iniquity.
 

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Got questions Ministries seems like it has an agenda to me. Let's talk about some of the misleading info. The claim was made several times how "only" 5% of abortions involve r*pe, incest or being required to save the woman. They make it sound like a small number, when in fact the actual number would be like 25-50k pregnancies a year.

It's not about all that emotional psycho jargon. It's about people developing tunnel vision and refusing to look at information. You want us to force up to 50,000 women a year to have babies under forceful, violent or traumatizing situations. Because the Bible says thou shal not kill? Then it contradicts itself constantly.

"If the person is from a month old up to five years old, your valuation shall be for a male five shekels of silver, and for a female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver." (Leviticus 27:6) -

So are infants worthless to God?

"When men strive together, and hurt a woman with child, so that there is miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the one who hurt her shall be fined according as the woman's husband shall lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. If any harm follows, then you shall give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." (Exodus 21:22-25)

This is saying it's ok to kill Abortion providers. And anyone else who happens to cause a miscarriage, if it kills the woman.

"Or why was I not as a hidden untimely birth, as infants that never see the light? There the wicked cease from troubling, and there the weary are at rest. There the prisoners are at ease together; they hear not the voice of the taskmaster. The small and the great are there, and the slave is free from his master." (Job 3:16-19)

The list goes on with scripture questioning the worth of a life full of suffering. But like I said. Tunnel vision
This is another example of needing to keep bible verses in context.
Rule of thumb for bible interpretation : use who, when, where, what, why and how rule applies.

WHEN was this written? Some debate but some modern scholars currently estimate 5-6th century BC. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Exodus
There are no similar commands anywhere in the New Testament.
Jesus said to love our enemies. A bit hard to do if you've killed them. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5:43-48&version=KJV
 
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