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Helioform said:
"US would turn into third world country if he is impeached". Sounds more and more like some dictator wannabe.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4433345/donald-trump-supporters-its-your-fault-impeached/amp/
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Yes, scare tactics. No intelligent thought whatsoever, just very primitive blockbuster movie type of cliches... Stupid! I can't believe people digest such stuff these day. They do, of course, swallow this bait... Their brains have been trained well... "Third world country". Dummies... Today, the so-called third-world countries succeed the "first-world countries" in many ways. Do the people even realize it? Economies and social institutions of countries like China, India or even Vietnam are incomparably healthier and developing fast like a spacerocket launching into the skies... Whereas the West is stagnating.
 
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Yes. Bubbles upon bubbles. Financial volumes are inflated over the real worth millions of times over. This financial pyramid can't go on forever and is already crumbling down.

Socialism is very good. However, I don't think there will be real socialism in the USA. Ctuel police state, yes.
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It depends how hard the house of cards falls. In 2008 if the government hadnt bailed out Aig it would of been the end of capitalism I think.

Banks shouldnt be able to leverage our money. Its our money. We worked for it and the fact that it can just vanish in a bank one day is total bullshit.
 
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Bacsi said:
Scare tactics. No intelligent thought whatsoever, just very primitive blockbuster movie type of cliches... Stupid! I can't believe people digest such stuff these day. They do, of course, swallow this bait... Their brains have been trained well... "Third world country". Dummies... Today, the so-called third-world countries succeed the "first-world countries" in many ways. Do the people even realize it? Economies and social institutions of countries like China, India or even Vietnam are incomparably healthier and developing fast like a spacerocket launching into the skies... Whereas the West is stagnating.
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Look out for China especially...they are leading the way with their expertise in quantum computing.
 
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Aero said:
It depends how hard the house of cards falls. In 2008 if the government hadnt bailed out Aig it would of been the end of capitalism I think.

Banks shouldnt be able to leverage our money. Its our money. We worked for it and the fact that it can just vanish in a bank one day is total bullshit.
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Yes. People take it sheepishly... That occupy wall street movement came up a little and was crushed. I don't know if it was for real or a false flag type of thing. I spoke once with the guy who organized it. Seems to be genuine, but who knows. He was very scared and didn't really speak about the real issues anymore publicly.
 
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Helioform said:
Look out for China especially...they are leading the way with their expertise in quantum computing.
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About high tech, I'm worried about our civilization if we don't come up with new sources of energy. Not sure how long the current ones will last with the available technology to extract and increasing speed of consumption. All the technological wanders will turn into useless garbage once you pull that off switch or drain the gas station...
 
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Aero said:
It depends how hard the house of cards falls. In 2008 if the government hadnt bailed out Aig it would of been the end of capitalism I think.

Banks shouldnt be able to leverage our money. Its our money. We worked for it and the fact that it can just vanish in a bank one day is total bullshit.
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The end of Capitalism is coming sooner or later, or it’s the end of all of us. Forbes, freaking Forbes just predicted that capitalism will end the species in 4 decades
 
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Colonel Valerio said:
The end of Capitalism is coming sooner or later, or it’s the end of all of us. Forbes, freaking Forbes just predicted that capitalism will end the species in 4 decades
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The alternative the one-eyed ones are leading to is pretty grim as well, I think
 
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Yes. People take it sheepishly... That occupy wall street movement came up a little and was crushed. I don't know if it was for real or a false flag type of thing. I spoke once with the guy who organized it. Seems to be genuine, but who knows. He was very scared and didn't really speak about the real issues anymore publicly.
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I suppose any idea can outgrow its creator. Or the creator outgrew the idea. Either way, I saw a serious lack of leadership in the occupy movements. They had no plan for the end game. The plan can't be to just sit there and hope everyone rallies around you. Because what happens is the more you sit there the more your enemies rally.

In the art of war mobility is one of the key components of winning. Along with deception, good leaders just have to know these things. And it's exactly like a chess game. Everyone makes fun of the pawns, but they can be devastating. How you line up and position your pawns is critical to controlling the end game.

I'm not calling the occupy movements pawns. But I am saying we are in a perpetual state of war. And for the Capitalists war is literally the only thing they know how to do. Because they didn't make money through hard work or being smart. They made their money by running other people over.
 
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I suppose any idea can outgrow its creator. Or the creator outgrew the idea. Either way, I saw a serious lack of leadership in the occupy movements. They had no plan for the end game. The plan can't be to just sit there and hope everyone rallies around you. Because what happens is the more you sit there the more your enemies rally.

In the art of war mobility is one of the key components of winning. Along with deception, good leaders just have to know these things. And it's exactly like a chess game. Everyone makes fun of the pawns, but they can be devastating. How you line up and position your pawns is critical to controlling the end game.

I'm not calling the occupy movements pawns. But I am saying we are in a perpetual state of war. And for the Capitalists war is literally the only thing they know how to do. Because they didn't make money through hard work or being smart. They made their money by running other people over.
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Capitalists are just modern Feudalists, and the world belongs to your Feudal Lord.

Forever for most people, this website is a scam dedicated to supporting Neo-Feudalism.

But.................now,more than ever.............. we see :)
 
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polymoog said:
"campaign associates" is best the left can come up with for trumps impeachment?
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Yes, and the thing they dinged Manafort for had nothing to do with Trump. And the big one, Papadopoulous, the guy who was supposed to be the linchpin and who was the reason for the whole Russian investigation to begin with, just got a whopping two weeks in jail for lying to the FBI.

If the Russian collusion thing had any legs at all, we would be seeing high-level Trump people going to prison for a long time, or turning state's evidence to spare themselves. Nothing of the sort is happening, and the people who have been prosecuted have pretty thin connections to Trump and are being charged with things that have nothing at all to do with him. It's a laugh.
 
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Manafort could be going to prison for life-and the fact that he laundered money for Russian supporters in Ukraine is just another thing that makes it very suspicious when it comes to the collusion investigation, and why Mueller is on that. But again these are government officials so why be surprised if they don't go to jail for a long time? The (in)justice system is very corrupt.


All of Trump’s Russia Ties, in 7 Charts:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
 
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Helioform said:
Manafort could be going to prison for life-and the fact that he laundered money for Russian supporters in Ukraine is just another thing that makes it very suspicious when it comes to the collusion investigation, and why Mueller is on that. But again these are government officials so why be surprised if they don't go to jail for a long time? The (in)justice system is very corrupt.


All of Trump’s Russia Ties, in 7 Charts:

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/connections-trump-putin-russia-ties-chart-flynn-page-manafort-sessions-214868
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It's nothing. Mythology. If there was anything remotely substantial against Trump and Russia, then he would have been gone long time ago. Considering the unprecedented pressure and opposition against Trump, and looking at the pathetic anonymous NYT attack tells you volumes about absence of any real matter in the accusations of Trump and Russia ties. All of this is laughable. Zero facts, zero proof. America has gone crazy. Instead of digging where there's nothing to find, they should look at their own political system. If a president is elected and more than half of the country hates him passionately, maybe it's time to create some ideology that will unite all of the Americans, and not keep this duality of "Republican and Democrats" in order to manipulate people and do whatever the elite want. Very old, very bad way of thinking.

"Trump and Russia" vs. "Lock her up!" are the battle mottoes of two camps perpetuating hate in an endless cycle. There must be accord and co-operation in society. It's very sad when it's divided so deeply and so fundamentally, where there's actually nothing to divide as it is one country with one past and one future for all people.

This division and hate and witchhunt etc are only destroying and slowing down the potential of America. While Americans are busy fighting with each other, strongly united and pragmatical countries like China etc. are developing and expanding without making much noise. That way America will only lose its power and position, and will slid into what they call "the third world" category.
 
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Thunderian said:
Yes, and the thing they dinged Manafort for had nothing to do with Trump. And the big one, Papadopoulous, the guy who was supposed to be the linchpin and who was the reason for the whole Russian investigation to begin with, just got a whopping two weeks in jail for lying to the FBI.

If the Russian collusion thing had any legs at all, we would be seeing high-level Trump people going to prison for a long time, or turning state's evidence to spare themselves. Nothing of the sort is happening, and the people who have been prosecuted have pretty thin connections to Trump and are being charged with things that have nothing at all to do with him. It's a laugh.
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True.

Trump will one day go away this way or another. So the real question is, how did America come to a situation where their society is so divided? Nobody seems to be too concerned with it. People there seem to be happy and content with such huge chasm between two camps of the American society. How did this happen? What is it? Conservatives vs. Liberals, Republicans vs. Democrats, Christians vs. Darwinians, Americans vs. Immigrants, Whites vs. Minorities, Capitalists vs. Socialists etc. etc. whatever the contents and source of the division, it has to be dealt with. It has to be dealt with strongly and immediately. The time is of essence. Every day that nobody takes the lead to unite the country brings America closer to a collapse. It's very, very, very bad. It seems Americans don't care. As long as they remove Trump. What then? Will the actual problem disappear with a "better" leader? I doubt. No leader ever addressed the real burning issues that are affecting America's society at fundamental level. On the contrary, everybody is playing along this terrible two-faced diabolic deception. America is one big failure.
 
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