Personality Tests

[DesertRose]

Only 4% ? I feel special now.
Is anyone here an INTP ?

Hey sim hae!
The two known Intps on the forum are etagloc and Helioform. Cheers

 

[Etagloc]

According to the blurb on the intp above it points out that even in casual conversation the intp will point out errors......
That would be a problem if intp marry, right? Sometimes people spout nonsense because they are tired or it is hot or they are pregnant........
just an observation......

Yeah we tend to be like that. Especially Virgos ( I am one ). And the Tarot card for Virgos is the Hermit. We value knowledge more than relationships basically. Not everyone is meant to be married anyway...some of us value our time on our own and try to invest our libido more in creative work.

My birthday also is within that same period.

As far as INTP and relationship........

I don't really do stuff like think about "how am I in relationships" and things like that. That's more stuff women think about. I'm not really thinking about stuff like that.

But I tried to think about it.

There was this song that used to get played when I was super young..... C-Murder "Down for my n*****"..... I thought of that. People when I was a kid used to play that kind of music.

I don't listen to music but that song is pretty much how I feel as far as people. I remember that song..... C-Murder basically says "F*** them other n***** cuz I'm down for my n*****" over and over again...... the whole chorus is basically that phrase over and over again.....

that song..... that message is so beautiful and profound to me. It really speaks to me.*

Because that's pretty much how I feel towards humanity.

As far as INTPological studies....

firstly, I don't think INTP is necessarily a nerd. I can't stand that term being used because I want to read books. I love books, I like to read but I don't call myself a "nerd" or think that applies to me. I have nothing to do with that. That's a specific culture and I have nothing to do with it. Nerd is like.... someone who is super, overly obsessed with anime, with Star Trek, with stuff which has nothing to do with real life. But Marx- for example. I can't picture Marx being called a "nerd". How are we using this word? Because nerd equals someone who has no social skills, who is into a bunch of irrelevant stuff and who is dependent on their parents. Now if we say someone who knows way too much about Star Trek who fits that description is a nerd- that's the term properly being used. But to say Mao Zedong is a nerd- is incorrect. People use that to paint whoever is intellectual. And when the word is used like that, it really is something used to promote the dumbing down of culture. I'm interested in things that people consider intellectual but I don't think that means I'm someone who has no social skills. My ideal is not some lame professor but someone like Che Guevara who was an intellectual but not just an intellectual. He actually lived his ideas. I mention Marx, Mao, Che, etc. because these are not Star Trek obsessives and who would not be properly called nerds. Nerds are people who live in a fantasy world and who obsess over things that have nothing to do with real life and who aren't even considered with real life. They're content to live in a dungeons and dragons world. Someone like Marx or Che.... they studied ideas so that they could actually implement these ideas. A distinction should be made between a Star Trek obsessive and someone who, say, is a scholar of Islam. Because if we accept that a "nerd" is someone who is intellectual- would it be proper to say Islamic scholars are nerds? Or that anyone intellectual is a nerd? And equivalate them with lame Star Trek obsessive types? But you see just how looking at C-Murder's use of language, shows how he feels about the world; how language is used in this instance reveals how anti-intellectual culture is.

That rant isn't directed against anyone- just something against that word since I saw it mentioned in relation to INTPs.

I'm not defending all INTPS. For all I know, there are INTPs who are stuck in fantasy worlds. I have no idea.

However, me myself- I am interested in learning, in knowledge and in truth- and of course I inherently believe that truth is objective. Society is degenerate. I showed it with the thread about the feminist dog-molestation. The plot gets thicker- because of how downwards the society is moving- one of the big things there is an emphasis on, from society towards its members is: "shut your mouth".

So a bunch of INTPS who cares about no one's feelings and who care only about the truth- we are dangerous. We are like a priest-caste. We are like a priest-caste (except in the case of any lame instances where they obsess over useless stuff like anime) who represent Objective Truth.

So we get attacked because we represent Objective Truth. And this I'm not saying against anybody- I'm saying because INTPS are depicted negatively for that reason. Look at how we're shown in that picture in the thread earlier. We get attacked because we're a threat. Because we're too real.

Support your local INTP.



*one reason (among others) I mention that is because.... I am not a person who is about criticizing people I'm close to. I really think I'm loyal almost to a fault. If it's a minor issue, I don't think I'm a person who is critical or anything like that. With people I'm close to- I do believe in covering up things, if they do something. I'm not the unfeeling stereotype that INTPs are portrayed as. I do tend to think in a cold and logical way but I don't only think in that way and I'm actually protective of people and I don't think I'm harsh towards people I'm close to. My brother for example.... I might mildly disagree with him about something but that's about it. I don't really criticize him. I definitely intend to be razor-sharp and precise in my thinking but that doesn't mean I can't be gentle with people I'm close to. My personality doesn't really translate over text- people can't detect the tones I use. I don't think anyone who knows me in real life would say I'm harsh or critical. They might be hostile towards me over my beliefs but people have tended to describe me as calming and relaxing. I think I'm peaceful and calm and I think most people would say the same about me. Introversion versus extroverted..... I'm neither. I don't believe I'm introverted at all. I think I just might look introverted because I like to have a small circle, stay inside my small circle and ignore everyone outside of that circle. If I like people, great. If not, I'm not interested in hanging around them. I don't like most people. I don't believe all people are equal and maybe "introverts" are just low-key aristocrats.

 

[Etagloc]

Hey sim hae!
The two known Intps on the forum are etagloc and Helioform. Cheers

googled "smartest mbti". Results:

And I saw this from another website, the person ranked INTJ and INTP as the smartest, followed by INFP and INFJ.

• INTP/INTJ.
• INFP/INFJ.
• ENTP/ENTJ.
• ENFP/ENFJ.
• ISTP/ISTJ.
• ISFP/ISFJ.
• ESTP/ESTJ.
• ESFP/ESFJ.

Which MBTI personality types are usually the most Intelligent - Page 9
https://www.personalitycafe.com/.../160331-mbti-personality-types-usually-most-intellig...

I feel like INTJs need to be stopped.

They are giving us INTPs competition.

INTPS are INTJS are sort of similar I think. I think the INTP and INTJ are sort of different but I do find INTJs relatable. I used to be really good friends with an INTJ in high school. I think the INTP thinks in more of a slow, drawn-out way and the INTJ thinks in more of a quick type of way. I asked someone what was the difference between the two and they said:

"An INTP is less likely to care about routine and structure and floats through life on their intellect
But functionally, they don’t share anything similar, arguably opposites
An INTJ is more likely to care about routine and structure and seeks a conclusion, and usually makes snap judgements
...An INTP uses abstract hypothetical scenarios through multiple contexts to find holes
An INTJ cares more about real world applicability and cost/benefit analysis
Corporate thinking style is what an INTJ would use, and the kind of reasoning that an INTP uses would be.... Einstein"

 

[DesertRose]

Waaah……. look who graced us with his presence! Greetings colgate!
BTW.....Why is @yannick playing hard to find?

Because that's pretty much how I feel towards humanity.

Hence you value loyalty!
And are interested in activism and not just ivory tower stuff.....
I agree the descriptions in mbti are a bit rigid especially the introversion/extroversion stuff...…

I find it interesting because I think intps are more broad-based in knowledge......
for example bro @EpistemiX had a thread on secularism.....
Since I do not think secular ideals are the best path ...…..I did not have much to say...….and the same goes for many theories out there.
I think that believers should run things.
If they fall short of our standards they have to leave office.
Plain enough, I am sick of corrupted zero integrity folks running things because they rise to the top in secular societies. There should be ethics in economics, politics and in government as well as in warfare.
It is kinda embarrassing to admit but I focus on what works and pile on reasons for why it works.....or how it would work in a given situation....
Perhaps I am not intj ……:-(
When I see a theory, political thought or movement I see if it works and if I can not see it, I stop.
I know the world is ruled by one Satanic sect and many proxies.
I am not interested deeply in their rituals and beliefs unless they are shocking and they usually are.

I support intps!
Thanks for the thoughts.....

 

[Orwell's mentor]

I feel like INTJs need to be stopped.

Just an FYI, Etagloc :

 

[sim hae]

googled "smartest mbti". Results:
I feel like INTJs need to be stopped.

They are giving us INTPs competition.

Gasp!! I thought I liked you guys best, both emotionally and intellectually (I'm an INTJ ), but now it's war. Watch out! ......jk

Smart types tend to be the most foolish though, irronically, because they're very confident in their judgement. They don't doubt their conclusions often enough since they think they've got most things figured out, which I personally think is a big, big flaw



So you can have the crown, I yield, lol

 

[sim hae]

Just an FYI, Etagloc :

LOL

 

[DesertRose]

Just an FYI, Etagloc :

Stubborn to the core!
Good one O'M !

 

[Etagloc]

Waaah……. look who graced us with his presence! Greetings colgate!
BTW.....Why is Yannick playing hard to get?

Hence you value loyalty!
And are interested in activism and not just ivory tower stuff.....
I agree the descriptions in mbti are a bit rigid especially the introversion/extroversion stuff...…

I find it interesting because I think intps are more broad-based in knowledge......
for example bro @EpistemiX had a thread on secularism.....
Since I do not think secular ideals are the best path ...…..I did not have much to say...….and the same goes for many theories out there.
I think that believers should run things.
If they fall short of our standards they have to leave office.
Plain enough, I am sick of corrupted zero integrity folks running things because they rise to the top in secular societies. There should be ethics in economics, politics and in government as well as in warfare.
It is kinda embarrassing to admit but I focus on what works and pile on reasons for why it works.....or how it would work in a given situation....
Perhaps I am not intj ……:-(
When I see a theory, political thought or movement I see if it works and if I can not see it, I stop.
I know the world is ruled by one Satanic sect and many proxies.
I am not interested deeply in their rituals and beliefs unless they are shocking and they usually are.

I support intps!
Thanks for the thoughts.....

Greetings, DR!

I definitely support intjs. I see intjs as like cousins. The intjs are some of the smartest and most interesting people to talk to in my experience.

Secular ideals... I think secularism has failed. This whole concept of a secular, post-ideological world is collapsing, as I see it.

You can't build anything on a basis of not believing in anything. As I see it, people can accept that Western civilization is collapsing- or they say "no, everything is fine". I had such a problem when Tablighi Jamaat came to the masjid earlier this week- exactly for that problem. For me as an individual- I feel pretty optimistic, subhanAllah. But as for society... if a person thinks "everything is fine, nothing is wrong" as far as where things are going in terms of the big picture- I'm a little bothered by that. I think there's blindness if a person really believes that.

I was thinking to myself- I have a lot of respect for Muslims who are on this website. I really feel impressed by the Muslims who are here. Because if you're here- more than likely, you realize- there is something going on. I am amazed and saddened- there are many Muslims who seem to think everything is fine, everything is normal, nothing strange or abnormal is going on.

This is why I respect Sheikh Imran Hosein and why I seriously respect you, DR, for introducting me to his stuff. I don't agree with everything he says and I think people are right to criticize certain things he says. However, what I think is so valuable about his stuff- is not necessarily what specifically he is saying. What is valuable is his whole approach of dealing with the issues of our day. He takes what is timeless and eternal and applies it to current events.

I think it's really sad how many younger people are not interested in religion- however, I think part of it is because of that issue. Within Islam and Christianity, you have a lot of people who are only talking about the never-changing, eternal stuff. I'm really happy because I just got a copy of Kitab At-Tauhid by Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab. As far as Wahhab's biography, I have no particular opinion- I don't know enough. As far as the book- it is good stuff. However, the basics, the fundamentals- these are important but.... the ideal in math as I see it is- you master the basic math then move to higher math. I am happy that people are teaching the fundamentals- but I want to know the fundamentals so they can be applied. Why shouldn't we look at Islam and apply its teachings to what we see right in front of us?

When I first read an English translation of the Quran, that was one of the first things I remember- what first made me fall in love with the Quran. Surah Al-Baqarah explained to me exactly what I was going through and suddenly things made more sense. It was explaining to me what I was seeing right in front of me.

Crazy things are going on and there's a war against the independent point of view. I was shocked when I saw yesterday- large advertisements warning against "fake news". By "fake news"- they mean us. They mean websites like this.

Anyways, I've been swamped and I have hit to "post reply" and go in a moment, insha'Allah. However it is good to hear from you, DR.

 

[Etagloc]

@Orwell's mentor and @sim hae

how was I supposed to know there so many INTJs here? I would feel cornered but.... I've decided INTJs are too similar and we should have peace : ) I forget his name but the consigliere (I think I think I spelled that right) in the Godfather said..... "war is bad for business"..... yes indeed. Plus we are too similar : )

I propose pan-INT unity.

 

[DesertRose]

I was thinking to myself- I have a lot of respect for Muslims who are on this website. I really feel impressed by the Muslims who are here. Because if you're here- more than likely, you realize- there is something going on. I am amazed and saddened- there are many Muslims who seem to think everything is fine, everything is normal, nothing strange or abnormal is going on..

You and I both, at times it feels surreal.
As you know I am interested in business thoughts some of the email groups I am in have American businessmen discussing leaving the US and calling those who do not 'potted plants'.
Realism is sadly lacking and preparing for the worst is non existent. If anything History should teach us some harsh lessons.

I think it's really sad how many younger people are not interested in religion- however, I think part of it is because of that issue. Within Islam and Christianity, you have a lot of people who are only talking about the never-changing, eternal stuff.

Yes the ones that talk politics and change were the first causalities of the war of terror. I pray for the aseer, the wrongfully imprisoned and dead.
If I had my way, all the peaceful regardless of calling would retreat out of the mega cities into sustainable rural regions were they can build bonds of trust.

Why shouldn't we look at Islam and apply its teachings to what we see right in front of us?

Totally agree! It is fun to watch you gallop through Islamic thought. I respect your scholarship.

When I first read an English translation of the Quran, that was one of the first things I remember- what first made me fall in love with the Quran. Surah Al-Baqarah explained to me exactly what I was going through and suddenly things made more sense. It was explaining to me what I was seeing right in front of me.

Excellent points......Remember He Most High told us to Use it and struggle with it. I think everything is going according to his Plan we just need to plug ourselves where we will be most helpful. With a tank full of Imaan/belief.

Always fun to touch base with you Colgate, MashaAllah!

I propose pan-INT unity.

LOL!
.

 

[DesertRose]

MBTI type unity is here for all......

Here’s How Easily You See Potential Within Others, Based on Your Personality Type​

https://personalitygrowth.com/heres-how-easily-you-see-potential-within-others-based-on-your-personality-type/​

 

[JoChris]

My birthday also is within that same period.

As far as INTP and relationship........

I don't really do stuff like think about "how am I in relationships" and things like that. That's more stuff women think about. I'm not really thinking about stuff like that.

But I tried to think about it.

There was this song that used to get played when I was super young..... C-Murder "Down for my n*****"..... I thought of that. People when I was a kid used to play that kind of music.

I don't listen to music but that song is pretty much how I feel as far as people. I remember that song..... C-Murder basically says "F*** them other n***** cuz I'm down for my n*****" over and over again...... the whole chorus is basically that phrase over and over again.....

that song..... that message is so beautiful and profound to me. It really speaks to me.*

Because that's pretty much how I feel towards humanity.

As far as INTPological studies....

firstly, I don't think INTP is necessarily a nerd. I can't stand that term being used because I want to read books. I love books, I like to read but I don't call myself a "nerd" or think that applies to me. I have nothing to do with that. That's a specific culture and I have nothing to do with it. Nerd is like.... someone who is super, overly obsessed with anime, with Star Trek, with stuff which has nothing to do with real life. But Marx- for example. I can't picture Marx being called a "nerd". How are we using this word? Because nerd equals someone who has no social skills, who is into a bunch of irrelevant stuff and who is dependent on their parents. Now if we say someone who knows way too much about Star Trek who fits that description is a nerd- that's the term properly being used. But to say Mao Zedong is a nerd- is incorrect. People use that to paint whoever is intellectual. And when the word is used like that, it really is something used to promote the dumbing down of culture. I'm interested in things that people consider intellectual but I don't think that means I'm someone who has no social skills. My ideal is not some lame professor but someone like Che Guevara who was an intellectual but not just an intellectual. He actually lived his ideas. I mention Marx, Mao, Che, etc. because these are not Star Trek obsessives and who would not be properly called nerds. Nerds are people who live in a fantasy world and who obsess over things that have nothing to do with real life and who aren't even considered with real life. They're content to live in a dungeons and dragons world. Someone like Marx or Che.... they studied ideas so that they could actually implement these ideas. A distinction should be made between a Star Trek obsessive and someone who, say, is a scholar of Islam. Because if we accept that a "nerd" is someone who is intellectual- would it be proper to say Islamic scholars are nerds? Or that anyone intellectual is a nerd? And equivalate them with lame Star Trek obsessive types? But you see just how looking at C-Murder's use of language, shows how he feels about the world; how language is used in this instance reveals how anti-intellectual culture is.

That rant isn't directed against anyone- just something against that word since I saw it mentioned in relation to INTPs.

I'm not defending all INTPS. For all I know, there are INTPs who are stuck in fantasy worlds. I have no idea.

However, me myself- I am interested in learning, in knowledge and in truth- and of course I inherently believe that truth is objective. Society is degenerate. I showed it with the thread about the feminist dog-molestation. The plot gets thicker- because of how downwards the society is moving- one of the big things there is an emphasis on, from society towards its members is: "shut your mouth".

So a bunch of INTPS who cares about no one's feelings and who care only about the truth- we are dangerous. We are like a priest-caste. We are like a priest-caste (except in the case of any lame instances where they obsess over useless stuff like anime) who represent Objective Truth.

So we get attacked because we represent Objective Truth. And this I'm not saying against anybody- I'm saying because INTPS are depicted negatively for that reason. Look at how we're shown in that picture in the thread earlier. We get attacked because we're a threat. Because we're too real.

Support your local INTP.



*one reason (among others) I mention that is because.... I am not a person who is about criticizing people I'm close to. I really think I'm loyal almost to a fault. If it's a minor issue, I don't think I'm a person who is critical or anything like that. With people I'm close to- I do believe in covering up things, if they do something. I'm not the unfeeling stereotype that INTPs are portrayed as. I do tend to think in a cold and logical way but I don't only think in that way and I'm actually protective of people and I don't think I'm harsh towards people I'm close to. My brother for example.... I might mildly disagree with him about something but that's about it. I don't really criticize him. I definitely intend to be razor-sharp and precise in my thinking but that doesn't mean I can't be gentle with people I'm close to. My personality doesn't really translate over text- people can't detect the tones I use. I don't think anyone who knows me in real life would say I'm harsh or critical. They might be hostile towards me over my beliefs but people have tended to describe me as calming and relaxing. I think I'm peaceful and calm and I think most people would say the same about me. Introversion versus extroverted..... I'm neither. I don't believe I'm introverted at all. I think I just might look introverted because I like to have a small circle, stay inside my small circle and ignore everyone outside of that circle. If I like people, great. If not, I'm not interested in hanging around them. I don't like most people. I don't believe all people are equal and maybe "introverts" are just low-key aristocrats.

My father was born too early to become a computer geek and not in school long enough to become a nerd. He has all the warning signs of an INTP man though. I get on better with him than my INTJ sister.

If I had to choose between an INTP leader and INTJ I would choose INTP. Logical enough to make hard decisions, flexible enough to allow general personal differences, approaches and styles.
I don't know if I would want an INT# leader overall though. Your entry shows a lot of (intellectual) idealism and the vast majority of people wouldn't meet your own personal standards.

 

[JoChris]

Gasp!! I thought I liked you guys best, both emotionally and intellectually (I'm an INTJ ), but now it's war. Watch out! ......jk

Smart types tend to be the most foolish though, irronically, because they're very confident in their judgement. They don't doubt their conclusions often enough since they think they've got most things figured out, which I personally think is a big, big flaw



So you can have the crown, I yield, lol

You're an INTJ? Grrrr.....

 

[DesertRose]

You're an INTJ? Grrrr.....

Hey JoChris ESFJ is your kryptonite not intjerrs…..
Hey the above is scary...…..
maybe I am more infj? What do you guys think?
I am thinking my values help me test intj…….
ahh what the heck ……..whatever....labels are for jars......

 

[Etagloc]

I don't know if I would want an INT# leader overall though. Your entry shows a lot of (intellectual) idealism and the vast majority of people wouldn't meet your own personal standards.

You do believe in this, right?

On hearing this, Jesus told him, “You still lack one thing: Sell everything you own and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”

-Luke 18:22

That's a lot more idealistic and higher-standard than anything my post described.

Besides, hanging around with not just anyone is a good thing- not a bad thing. A person should be selective when it comes to who they hang around.

 

[JoChris]

Hey JoChris ESFJ is your kryptonite not intjerrs…..
Hey the above is scary...…..
maybe I am more infj? What do you guys think?
I am thinking my values help me test intj…….
ahh what the heck ……..whatever....labels are for jars......

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Very true that I have never liked female ESFJs. *shudder* The perfect hostess, perfect planning skills and perfect small talk.
At least ESTJs I can imagine just talking male logical small talk e.g. sport, property.
They always seemed to be more successful with people and the workplace too.



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It is the TJ versus FP that caused any conflict between my sister and I. She is too logical, I am too emotional. She needs order more than me.

She is also the expert of The Silent Treatment. My ENFP sister and I partially envied her for that ability!

 

[JoChris]

You do believe in this, right?

On hearing this, Jesus told him, “You still lack one thing: Sell everything you own and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”

-Luke 18:22

That's a lot more idealistic and higher-standard than anything my post described.

Besides, hanging around with not just anyone is a good thing- not a bad thing. A person should be selective when it comes to who they hang around.

Hey! I thought this was a religion-free zone! Start that debate in Religion area.

I was going on the message you were sending - you sound very idealistic and the majority of people do not have the N side, they have the S side. e.g. care more if it works right, not if it is right.

 

[JoChris]

Any medical/ nursing students asking which speciality they should do? http://almost.thedoctorschannel.com/choosing-medical-speciality-based-personality/

 

[JoChris]

MBTI type unity is here for all......

Here’s How Easily You See Potential Within Others, Based on Your Personality Type

https://personalitygrowth.com/heres-how-easily-you-see-potential-within-others-based-on-your-personality-type/

http://www.annholm.net/2009/08/the-mysterious-infj/