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It is true. I was reading somewhere explanation, I cant remember it absolutely correctly and don't have enough english skills to explain it good but basically the demons goal is not just to take ones souls, the souls are more like conductors to dark essences. Yes, the owner of the souls also gets anough energy but the main piece goes to the spirits. This is the main goal of concerts, thousands of people screaming, full of energy and then you loose it after the concert and feel so lifeless, most of people think it is cool but it is not, when you have weaker energy, you get sick easier. Just go to the famous celebrity concert, dont scream or even move there and then go to the local unknown person concert, dance and sing, you'll see the difference.
The boys know about it, people broug screenshoots in this or other thread, they use it. People who suck the energy (if they dont do drugs etc) usually look younger and feel healthier same as people who don't give their energy and protect themselves. Same with being in fandom and dreaming about this people, you have them in your dreams becouse they suck you even when you sleeping I belive.
The same with mass sacrifices, killing people is not the only goal. The second but not less important are people who crying and grieving for them, again it is mass sadness energy. The person who wrote that said when you hear about another sacrifice like plain crush, children killing, celebrity sacrifice, try to stay emotionally stable as possible. You have no need to feel sad for them, most of those people are in better place, if you're gonna grieve you will give your energy to them. Same with scandals when people start to hate smbd all together. You can dislike smbd like I dislike nmj for example but not hate.
I still watch some movies and listen to mainstream music but when you stop doing this that much, and stop being involved in all this dramas and react on it passionately, you truly become healthier in all aspects
Wow, I’ve heard Kpop stars talk about energies but didn’t understand what they were talking about and I only thought that they used up energies in concerts not in dream etc thank you for this explanation
 

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Demoted?? What's this about?

Was it because they didn't do their job at helping and "protecting" the boys with information?

This only proves the fact how BH brainwashes their fans to always be in their favour or they use emotional/mental tactics like demoting someone so that they try harder to be promoted again. They'll work harder at moving up in the ranks to be seen as more committed and dedicated. This is sick.
I don't think their fans have a life of their owns anymore
 

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It is true. I was reading somewhere explanation, I cant remember it absolutely correctly and don't have enough english skills to explain it good but basically the demons goal is not just to take ones souls, the souls are more like conductors to dark essences. Yes, the owner of the souls also gets anough energy but the main piece goes to the spirits. This is the main goal of concerts, thousands of people screaming, full of energy and then you loose it after the concert and feel so lifeless, most of people think it is cool but it is not, when you have weaker energy, you get sick easier. Just go to the famous celebrity concert, dont scream or even move there and then go to the local unknown person concert, dance and sing, you'll see the difference.
The boys know about it, people broug screenshoots in this or other thread, they use it. People who suck the energy (if they dont do drugs etc) usually look younger and feel healthier same as people who don't give their energy and protect themselves. Same with being in fandom and dreaming about this people, you have them in your dreams becouse they suck you even when you sleeping I belive.
The same with mass sacrifices, killing people is not the only goal. The second but not less important are people who crying and grieving for them, again it is mass sadness energy. The person who wrote that said when you hear about another sacrifice like plain crush, children killing, celebrity sacrifice, try to stay emotionally stable as possible. You have no need to feel sad for them, most of those people are in better place, if you're gonna grieve you will give your energy to them. Same with scandals when people start to hate smbd all together. You can dislike smbd like I dislike nmj for example but not hate.
I still watch some movies and listen to mainstream music but when you stop doing this that much, and stop being involved in all this dramas and react on it passionately, you truly become healthier in all aspects
Yeah.. actually I've heared a theory which says there is a thing ab a quantity of energy we all are born with; and it is said that if we consume it too fast, we will become at a kinda young age not able to do many things like our grandparents.
And also I experienced using my energy to its limits an entire summer, and afterwards not being able to handle studying bc I just was never feeling in the mood to; I was feeling the need to have a relaxing period in order to charge my batteries.
So this 'energy' thing seems kinda real
 
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It is true. I was reading somewhere explanation, I cant remember it absolutely correctly and don't have enough english skills to explain it good but basically the demons goal is not just to take ones souls, the souls are more like conductors to dark essences. Yes, the owner of the souls also gets anough energy but the main piece goes to the spirits. This is the main goal of concerts, thousands of people screaming, full of energy and then you loose it after the concert and feel so lifeless, most of people think it is cool but it is not, when you have weaker energy, you get sick easier. Just go to the famous celebrity concert, dont scream or even move there and then go to the local unknown person concert, dance and sing, you'll see the difference.
The boys know about it, people broug screenshoots in this or other thread, they use it. People who suck the energy (if they dont do drugs etc) usually look younger and feel healthier same as people who don't give their energy and protect themselves. Same with being in fandom and dreaming about this people, you have them in your dreams becouse they suck you even when you sleeping I belive.
The same with mass sacrifices, killing people is not the only goal. The second but not less important are people who crying and grieving for them, again it is mass sadness energy. The person who wrote that said when you hear about another sacrifice like plain crush, children killing, celebrity sacrifice, try to stay emotionally stable as possible. You have no need to feel sad for them, most of those people are in better place, if you're gonna grieve you will give your energy to them. Same with scandals when people start to hate smbd all together. You can dislike smbd like I dislike nmj for example but not hate.
I still watch some movies and listen to mainstream music but when you stop doing this that much, and stop being involved in all this dramas and react on it passionately, you truly become healthier in all aspects
very interesting.
Reminds me of that Vlive when R*M said hearing fans screaming at concerts gave him special energy and also how he felt he was a different person during that moment (his soul leaving his body)
this also reminds me of Beyonce performance at Super bowl, there is one part when she tells the fans to put their hands together so she can feel their "energy"
 
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Yeah.. actually I've heared a theory which says there is a thing ab a quantity of energy we all are born with; and it is said that if we consume it too fast, we will become at a kinda young age not able to do many things like our grandparents.
And also I experienced using my energy to its limits an entire summer, and afterwards not being able to handle studying bc I just was never feeling in the mood to; I was feeling the need to have a relaxing period in order to charge my batteries.
So this 'energy' thing seems kinda real
I feel like this right now I have exams but I just can’t bring myself to study I’ve been trying really hard but I find it really difficult to
 

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I feel like this right now I have exams but I just can’t bring myself to study I’ve been trying really hard but I find it really difficult to
I have my exams very soon too ㅠㅠ Good look!! Anyway idk if that works to you but staying away from the main source of distraction (my phone) for many hours helps me reconnect with myself and reality and be more concerned ab real life;; and this helps me study
 
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I have my exams very soon too ㅠㅠ Good look!! Anyway idk if that works to you but staying away from the main source of distraction (my phone) for many hours helps me reconnect with myself and be more concerned ab real life;; an this helps me study
Thank you good luck to you too I hope they go well mine aren’t that important though my real exams are not yet these are just mocks
Yh my phone is a massive distraction haha
All the best sweetie I hope you ace them don’t stress too much
 

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very interesting.
Reminds me of that Vlive when R*M said hearing fans screaming at concerts gave him special energy and also how he felt he was a different person during that moment (his soul leaving his body)
this also reminds me of Beyonce performance at Super bowl, there is one part when she tells the fans to put their hands together so she can feel their "energy"
They are just simle vampires :C
And they often ask to repeat smth after them the words energy is also huge
Like madonna on one of her concert asked the crowd to pray for satan and they did
 

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First i will do an introduction of Ir0n in the spoiler for those who don't know who he is and what is his past and current life. Really important for the understanding of his song 'system"
Iron was born on 8th January of 1996 (26years old). He was born in a very poor familly, he used to steal a lots of materials from the others kids from his school and foods from supermarket because he really did not had money.
Due to his very complicated financial situation, he was a troublemarkers and had a lots of anger issue against rich people (remember well this info in order to understand better "system"). His mind was so bad that one day when he was in school he stabbed one of his friend (yes a friend lol) because the kid said one bad thing.. they became friends few years after the accident..
In high school or after (idk) he became the second member of BT$ with RM, few weeks/years after other rappers joined. As we all know bigshit changed their plan (from rap crew to boys band) so he decided to left bt$ because he hate the idol life (duh lol).
In 2014 he participed to Show me the money season 3, in wich he end up second (bobby from ikon won it, obviously from the fact that he's from yg ent smh...). He then after smtm had a pretty good fan base, and sell pretty well... BUT the controversy started..
So as i said in the spoiler, the controversies started, the first one was him and 10 others idols/artist getting caught for drugs (marijuana) possesion BUT somehow, all types of korean medias from serious one to your infamous dispatch only decided to expose the name of Ir0n and let the 9 others in peace.. wich bothered ir0n a lots for some obvious reasons.
He did some months in prison for drugs. (the nine others did not)

In 2016, for his comeback he drops his singles "System". Two analysis are needed : the music video and the lyrics. Because both are differents but says a lots.
(each analysis in each spoilers)
MV analys :
The music video is more a critic of the society (= me, you, us) compared to the lyrics that are a critic of the system (= industry)
So basically in the story of the MV, we have one person xho is a middle-age man, farmer (lowest social class, consider by a lots like dirts) and ugly by the standards of our society.
The farmer is in a bad/destructed farm with chickens (the chickens might represent us).
Now look how the farmer is about to kill the chicken on the table but at 2:47 he stock him in a delicated way as he tell him to not worry but ends up cut his head.
After this scene at 3:11, we see the farmer cutting his hair and hairs, etc... basicly the farmer is doing what we call a glow-up (= transformation from ugly to handsome), he have "better" chlothe too. So the farmer procced to become what our society standards considers handsome. We can now see him in a better place (table), he drinks wine, have a pretty table (= reference to the richness of someone compare to the destructed farm)
Sooo the MV is basically a critics of how we/society persive people just based on their social class/work and overall apparence.
Now the lyrics analysis (about bigshit...)
As i said before, the lyrics are about the system (industry) so here we go :D :
- I spent that one year as if I was dead, Pushing myself into a corner of the room, Shouting silent screams under the blanket, Suddenly, I was facing the mirror = reference to his times in prison.
- Was it because of the sudden popularity or had this path not been mine from the beginning? Was that [already] enough for me? I can’t blend in [...] = he talks about his struggles about going from being a nobody to a very famous person in a short amount of times. Realising the all the expectation from the public as well.
- Behind business masked as loyalty, there’s a mistress that lives off it. The kind gazes of the snakes that hope for my downfall = Here he talks about how the producers, ceo and exectutives loves to say to their employees that they are a familly that will always have their backs if somethings bad happen to him, but all of this is just an illusions that the companies gives to their artists in order to sign them under their company (=business masked as loyalty). He also talk about those so called friends and others artists that pretends to support him as an artist but in secret hope for his downfall (= snake)
- In this scene, the tail wags the dog. Like prostitutes, singers line up in front of producers. Smiling all over, they serve their next source of income = Here's come the infamous line about bigshit that everybody ignores on youtube..
Ir0n is saying that artists are like prostitutes to prod', ceo and exectutive because they are sellings their soul/body to them by smiling and giving sexual services just for money.
Now what's shady about this is that ir0n ins't talking about this subjet in general but instead, all his talking about in this song is HIS EXPERIENCE, and where was he when he saw this happening?? yes bigshit. So he's talking about bt$ here.
- The damned fucking copyright law has long before killed singers’ rights. The vicious cycle that has firmly stabilized itself is repeated by this system’s slaves = talking about how producers are basically being slave to companies because in one song the company takes 80%, the producers 10% and artists usally takes 5% of the money. (5% others for the promo, disk agence...).
- Yeah, that’s right. One’s true nature never changes. Imitating a wallflower hasn’t suited me from the start. I am not going to obediently become this country’s prey = he talks about how he assume and do not regret his past acts (drugs, stabbing people...), admitting how being a role model (wallflower=idol=puppet) is not for him and is not going to and will continue to do drugs (he made a song dedicated to drugs after btw lol). and country's prey = secret agenda ?
- You thought I’d be shaking in fear, right? If you saw me as a pawn, accept it, it’s my turn now. Ya’ll see this is fuckin’ rapper = talks to the elites. He is proud of the fact that he is a real rapper and not some mumble/idol rappers like chanyeol that have ghostwritter and will never talk about things that will bothered them.. remember guys that rap was created in the first place to speak against the gouvernment, that's why we see a lots of politiciens talking trash of rap, wich could aslo explain why he as a rapper was the only one exposed out the 10 persons.
- Reporters and police are bribed. Lists are drawn-up, their political affairs. At the right timing, bombs explode. Schemes hidden behind the curtain of the press = talk about corruptions, the fact that the elite controls the police and media. the fact that sometime the media expose something controversial to hide another bigger controversy (ex : the jyp occult/samsung situation)
-The public is swept away by scandals. Obscurantism covers your eyes. Praise Park Chung-hee, Kim Dae-jung. You yourself don’t even know that you’ve been brainwashed = #Savage god bless him lmao
- [...]
- That bastard shaved his head
and my hair grew long. What are you trying to use as excuse this time? You used your shoulder, right? = #Savage2 lol he talk about GD. GD did cut his hair to avoid drug test (because if you takes drugs, your hair never lies). He called out his lying ass lol he said what is his excuse again because the first time gd got caught he said that he didn't know it was drugs lmao.
- GD bitch pretending to have been the victim at a fan’s expense, turn to acting instead of retarded rap eunuch TOP = he talks about how gd said that kiko (ex girlfriends) cheated on him while in reality gd cheated on kiko with a fan.. ouch lol. and for T.O.P he called him a drama queen and basicaly called him a mumble rapper (which is true btw lol).
- The princess gets plastic surgery and goes to a beauty shop to put more make-up on. As you can see, I will now only get make-up when I’m dead = the princess here is BOM of 2n*1.
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I feel refreshed, in one year I’ll be making the East’s best hiphop. Once the bubble bursts, you’ll be the East’s best gay pop = call kpop gay pop due to fanservice and heavy makeup maybe
- I’ll predict that in the end you will end up like Seven, thrown away like an old shoe = reference to s7ven huuugee scandal back in the early 2010's when he was caught buying a prostitute. The scandal was sooo huge back than that yg ent decided to throw away s7ven like an old shoe.


So in other term for those who don't get it about gd, he is saying how it's unfair how some get away with the freakings laws and scandal thanks to the corrupt power of companies like yg, sm, jyp, bigshit... but here you have normal person who get shitted one (and btw he is not complaining about his destiny since he said in the song and interview that he knows he is against the law and unlike some he admit it and pay for it.. some should takes exemple on him). And he did choose gd, top in particular because both had the same scandal but one got away from it because of yg and their delusional fans

so that's it, it's really sad that people on twitter and youtube only focus on the gd diss and call him an attention seeker when he tells the truth about litterally everythings and way more than just gd but bigshit, illuminati, medias, corruptions etc...
Now it's just sad to see where he is now because of this, because for me he is one of the best korean rapper out there (better than rm).
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS LONG EXPLANATION!
I get it now! Iron is sure a brave man! I still can’t believe Se7en was kicked out of YG, I forgot about him completely when he was in the army , if I wasn’t mistaken, he released few songs afterwards?
That’s how the industry works after all. One day you’re in, the next day, you’re out.
 

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Well they are going to get their money back spent on gucci's this way now?

Shamless..

All the actresses and singers get hate comments and what not.. These people think they're G0ds? I feel like puking .. There isnt even physical assault.. Just a comment.. People talk shits in comments .. It's nothing new
I saw comments in a twitter feed talking about cyberbullying and harrassment and how inhumane it is to do it yet ARM¥'s are known to be one of the biggest cyber bullies and harrass others at insane levels, hyprocrisy at it's best. ARM¥ have been known to harrass Suran during the yg issue and solbin with the Jin issue telling them they should kill themselves. I've seen articles that allow comments that voice their opinion of not liking BT$ and ARM¥ saying the author should kill himself. They very things they want people sued over when it's against their precious boys. Man it makes my blood boil.
 

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I for one and shocked and appalled by the behavior of getting their fans to report back to BH, it's outrageous.
It makes me even more suspicious of the company, what don't they want revealed?
For one, people should be allowed to voice their opinions, good or bad. Policing on "bad" opinions is Orwellian!
Secondly, I'm concerned that fans are actually doing this to people, knowing those people are going to suffer like that, it's downright evil. Don't they ever think about other things? It's shameful of BH to convince fans to fully occupy their time doing this.
I can't believe I ever liked that company, I'm so glad I haven't got tickets to their concert, I am honestly so done with them, this disgusting behavior is the final straw.
I thought it was strange how they announced taking legal action just after BS&T was released & just a day or so before V announced the passing of his grandmother. My first thought was they knew people would connect the dots and start talking so to silence them they did the legal action. It's crazy how BH is the only company doing this. With fame comes both positive and negatives, and a negative is having anti's and haters. Having rumors spread and shit talked about you, it comes with the territory of being famous.
 

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L..M..A..O. COWARDLY BEHAVIOR USING THIS TO SILENCE PEOPLE. THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING! Adios to bT$. Adios to B!gSh!t. I'm done with them.
The UK is pushing a law that makes memes illegal.
 

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Negative comments from anti-fans is to be expected and comes with the territory of being a celebrity. This seems outlandish to go through such lengths. I understand going after those who issue death threats and comments along those lines.


If this spreads like a wild fire especially in the US, they'll be known as the Korean boy band who sued fans for negative comments. Not a good look.

Who again said ARMYs will be there downfall?
I've said it. Been saying and will keep saying it.
 

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Guys please don’t delete anymore posts we have all worked very hard to find out what we wanted to and it’s a waste to delete it
Don’t let fear silence you, and besides this only applies to Koreans so
I think it would be a huge waste if we deleted posts so I hope you reconsider if you’re thinking of doing that
I'm not deleting!!!
 
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I'm not deleting!!!
Yay so happy to hear that you posts are so eye opening really
We shouldn’t be forced to be silenced we have every right to discuss what we want here If we stay united as a whole it will be harder for them to break us apart
Also I believe there are some lurkers here who think we’re all crazy and don’t know what we’re talking about I want you to know that everything is always a sweet lie to hide the sad truth open your eyes so many intelligent people have showed masses of evidence on this thread time and time again stay awake
Trust me I didnt want to believe this illuminati stuff too I laughed at the theorists stating that My sweet Bangtan could never be bad but it’s all fake and you’re digging a dark hole for yourselves I pray you find the truth and are safe from all the evil of the world
 

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@Maggieca , titling the forum fanfiction won't that lead to some ARM¥'s coming in and actually thinking they can post crazy fanfiction here. Those posts will derail the thread so much. It'll also keep those looking for a place to discuss their theories of BT$ & the illumin@ti away since they search for those keywords and we won't show up anymore. This is like being between a rock and a hardspot.
 
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