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A couple of things I want to point out about the choreography. I saw this FL clip. It's YG during a performance. I know everything we've discussed is all a part of perception, so take this however you see it.
There is a part in the dance that emulates taking a dagger to the heart--a stabbing motion I never noticed. You can see it after he moves to the opposite side of the stage and gets on his knees.

http://instagr.am/p/BjcetuDFWCE/

I've been wondering if someone tells their choreographer what elements to add to the dances (Ke0ne and others, not the one at BH label). I know he choreographed Tae's intro, I don't know if he choreographed FL, though I bet he did. Or someone may explain what the song is really about and he goes from there. Idk.

I still haven't watched NJ's vlive. Do you think he doesn't really talk about FL because he knows what it is truly about? (It's the real fan song disguised as a love song, haha.)

I thought there was something else I wanted to say about their choreography but I lost it I suppose. Carry on.
Yeap he tries to take the imaginary dagger twice... Once while standing but it's not that powerful or a missed attempt one... But the one while sitting is straight to the heart ..
Great finding in the choreo
 

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initiated meaning promoted to the next level, maybe they are planning on giving him a solo project
All the symbols in the comeback trailer indicate this as we see the other members giving objects to the men in black except Jungkook, he gives nothing and then receives a key.. He is also the main protagoinist in the video as we can clearly see

Of course if you have another theory why he was singled out in the video you are free to share it
Well k00k did mention while the puppy buzzfeed interview .. He will making his mixtape.. Maybe that's the solo project
 

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So I was rewatching something a Japanese film that involved some occult elements and it talked about an "awakening". This had me think about J1n's song awake, I didn't really watch the short films and just listened to the music so this time I watched it after hearing some stuff about it being dark. And the short film was very blatant. R M talking about abraxas being 'the god' in his starting monologue. Also, the "Abraxas" on the wallpaper:
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I feel sorry for J1n. Maybe he will be sacrificed... Is this a sign? The lyrics to his song says: "it's my truth [...], but it's my fate, it's my fate, [...], maybe I, I can never fly, [...] maybe I, I can't touch the sky. The song might mean he was born into it? It's his fate and he might know it's wrong so, he can't touch the sky because they worship the god - abraxas? This is really scary if this is true.... :(

Yeah it’s my truth
It’s my truth

온통 상처투성이겠지
But it’s my fate
It’s my fate

그래도 발버둥치고 싶어
Maybe I, I can never fly
저기 저 꽃잎들처럼
날갤 단 것처럼은 안 돼
Maybe I, I can’t touch the sky
그래도 손 뻗고 싶어
달려보고 싶어 조금 더

The short film:
That abraxas thing is a mixture of 2 animals.. Rooster and snake? How did the ancients ever come up with such myths... I don't like the look of it
 

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IVe listen to BTS songs for a while now I’d say 3 months like everyday ( not overly obsessed as I still listen to American songs ) and I’ve read this whole thread, but I’ve never had a dream or felt anything weird around me? That’s weird because I see some people say they have dreams and stuff but I’ve never experienced that.

I’ve always wondered to myself, back then Jimin used to act manly and... he looked manly but now he looks and acts More feminine? This is not a hate tho, hes adorable but I do wonder sometimes.

RM always gave me the creeps tho, I don’t feel he’s a genuinely person. Jungkook never gave me a weird feeling before, I feel I can relate to the guys a lot as he’s but introverted and normal? to me he’s someone who’s genuine and kind even if i don’t know the guy, but still. The rest is fine, it’s just RM. don’t like him
 

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That makes me sad and now i'm worried. Its not the first time i see wounds on the neck. Jungkook had a lots of that wounds not only in his neck. I thought that comes from dancing accident, but i thought to how does that work ?
Hmmm....i not want to say that but many of this wound on the necks looks like love bite :/
I'm hope that they not get raped or otherwise abused. I hope that it's comes all for them secret GF. :D
I have seen other pics of Jhope today and his eyes was swollen and he doesn't looks happy the other member to i really don't want to know what is going on behind closed doors. I hope nothing and this all are theorys.
I praying for them.
Same... Today He just wasn't like the old smiley jh0pe...

And lovebites :D... Yeah looks like them too...
 

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Guys... I went on twitter to look at h0bi's pics and they eye thing on his shirt more closely .. But guess what i found.. A wound on his Adam's apple.. Which wasn't there yesterday ... I will attach the pics..

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I literally think he was tortured with some electric cigarette or cigar type thing..

He wasn't his usual bubbly self also.. And that looooong belt he had to wear?
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Yesterday his skin was clean.. No wound no nothing .. It happened after their show ...
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And here you can again see the wound .. Plus can anyone explain what is on his arm? It doesn't seem like a mole to me.. It seems as if something had been drilled into him.. Its like a hollow in the skin...

Now i am too much worried about him..
Even k00k and taehyung came back with such wounds from the states and people were calling them hickeys... And enjoying them...

These are not really hickeys.. Theae are literally round wounds
oh my god I had no idea of this?!?!? now im even more concerned and worried for him, especially if he was acting weird!
 

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Analysis of Fake love



https://gyazo.com/8045f9c9a48a09d1722b93aba2f7e40e



https://gyazo.com/1301aa097591bc9d57bf0d0f630e6a2c


Heey Guys, I was analyizing the Fake Love MV and something sinister caught my eye. Look at the above pictures. Why is Junkook shown while Jin closes the curtains? Junkook also looks kind of mad/confused and betrayed and a little surprised. While Jin is in a room with full of light Junkook is in darkness.


https://gyazo.com/0674da830ac875d33d5a5ffc3c5d3c4a

Right after you can see junkook praying. Why would he pray? Is there something going to happen to him?



https://gyazo.com/409329123f51f1a963b133a276df11a4

If we look further in the MV we see Junkook looking shocked. It's almost like he can't believe what he's seeing and his mouth is slightly opened.




https://gyazo.com/b31ed2c431c76ada1f2d8d6c7fa7096d

https://gyazo.com/eb00125fe1531a788cfa70f672a75099

After his shocked face is shown we see that he shrinks and disappears behind a locked door into the darkness.




https://gyazo.com/afb8a1dbf0ea1b81ae3efcfa4513fb3a

And then we see Junkook acting as a mirror for J-hope. As if he was never there. This theme will continue to occur with the other members. Why is he always the mirror in this MV?



https://gyazo.com/e9f85193008562e27a07306ee8f6f8a9

Right after we see junkook looking at jimin from above in a dark and empty place. Why is he always surrounded with darkness?



https://gyazo.com/e430ef1670145bec80a607bd10eb0003

After he has seen something in the dark and empty space he tries to run for his life. While constantly looking back as if something is chasing him.


https://gyazo.com/5755980696f60e45bb905d8ea5eed5e0

In this scene we also see that the floor beneath him is disappearing. Is this his subconsious or is this reality?


https://gyazo.com/b031dc628eb80717b39315a5288138ed

Afterwards we can see RM looking at the mirror and this time we can see junkook reflected in the mirror again. He tries to touch RM but it doesn't work. Junkook looks very trapped.



https://gyazo.com/4bd9c93ed399593219effae42a1a21e0

We also see Junkook looking at Suga behind closed walls. It caught my eye that Junkook never interacts with the other members and always looks from a distant/ a far place. As if he isn't even there and is separate from the group.



https://gyazo.com/83d374c64701e68989f1e097458a5931

After he visited every member from another dimension/distance we can see him walk towards the sand like he lost a beloved one. At this very moment you can hear sounds which are commonly played when someone dies (funeral music). It's also not a coinsidence he walks towards the sand and drops it. Is he implying that they burried him or someone else?


https://gyazo.com/ad0443d508f299ba1cf8ab94910a896a

In this scene he holds the sand in the palm of his hands and almost everyone thought he was going to blow it, but instead he simply drops it on the ground. You can also see that he is thinking deeply almost deliberating about something that is important to him. While doing this the sand manifests itself and disappears.


https://gyazo.com/bd5ac1c54cd117721f30aae741bea14a



https://gyazo.com/6d2b8ed3b62e026ae2eef1be0ff15505
In the next scene we see Junkook opening a door. Is he trying to escape again? Instantly we can see "save me" written on the wall..


https://gyazo.com/52b081820c01f87247c821e53a71310b

Junkook couldn't interact with the other members. It's as if he asks the other members to save him.


https://gyazo.com/0e7e5fb997502fb48849aeafe19fea6f

We can see Teahyung with a phone in his hands, but it turns into sand. Also all the phones on the wall turn black. As if he wants to communicate with junkook but he can't. All communication is cut off.


https://gyazo.com/2ebf19a280fc1a8bd58a5da64fb3c973

At the very end Junkook enters a room with a demon like figure. Was THIS the "thing" that he tried to escape? This reminds me of the sentence : "boys meet what". This sentence was in one of BTS other videos and the sentence was also shown at the very end.

The sentence makes no sense. Why did they say "what" and not him/her. This means "what" its not a human being. Perhaps a demon? Was this the moment they made a pact with the devil? When did these demon like figures start to appear in their MV's? I have the feeling it was the start of their succesvol carreer.

When I watched this MV I also had the feeling Junkook was the main actor. Are they going to harm him? Sacrifice him? It's really scary.
very intresting, and I didn't even notice that those were phones on the wall, I thought they were lanterns.
 

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Guys... I went on twitter to look at h0bi's pics and they eye thing on his shirt more closely .. But guess what i found.. A wound on his Adam's apple.. Which wasn't there yesterday ... I will attach the pics..

View attachment 8187View attachment 8189
I literally think he was tortured with some electric cigarette or cigar type thing..

He wasn't his usual bubbly self also.. And that looooong belt he had to wear?
View attachment 8190
Yesterday his skin was clean.. No wound no nothing .. It happened after their show ...
View attachment 8191
And here you can again see the wound .. Plus can anyone explain what is on his arm? It doesn't seem like a mole to me.. It seems as if something had been drilled into him.. Its like a hollow in the skin...

Now i am too much worried about him..
Even k00k and taehyung came back with such wounds from the states and people were calling them hickeys... And enjoying them...

These are not really hickeys.. Theae are literally round wounds
They were probably tortured. Torture is a form of mind control maybe they needed reprogramming
 

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Guys I just wanted to mention that a few months ago there was a twt post and I can't find the link now but J!n and V originated from the same family.. kwangju or something. This goes with the theory that they were born into this and one of them are suspected to be s@crificed. Is it because of their blood?
edit: This is their clan:
Gwangju Kim clan, 광주김씨
I found the post but the original twt isn't there the account was suspended
This makes me question if their "poor boys became rich" was true. If these two are from satanic families that means they both have a lot of money. But I actually think it is more than two. They all maby except Suga are from not poor families. So it seems like all their pre-debut life was fake. What if those videos where they were living all seven in small apartment was fake? And in reality they had everything what rich kids have but went to shoot the videos and pretend they are poor? I donk know maby i'm wrong but if it's true it would be extremely low cs their images before debut playde huge role in gaining fans. Its a known fact that a lot of hollywood celebs fake their past, like fans found out snoop dogg actually was a very rich kid.
 

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This makes me question if their "poor boys became rich" was true. If these two are from satanic families that means they both have a lot of money. But I actually think it is more than two. They all maby except Suga are from not poor families. So it seems like all their pre-debut life was fake. What if those videos where they were living all seven in small apartment was fake? And in reality they had everything what rich kids have but went to shoot the videos and pretend they are poor? I donk know maby i'm wrong but if it's true it would be extremely low cs their images before debut playde huge role in gaining fans. Its a known fact that a lot of hollywood celebs fake their past, like fans found out snoop dogg actually was a very rich kid.
Sometimes, poorer families can be involved in this kind of thing too. Abuse is a generational thing in the families of known faces. The countryside especially has a lot of this going on - there's a lot of abuse (and programming centres) hidden behind the idyllic scenery. (That's why so many models have their roots from the countryside and often come from a farming background).
 

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Guys I just wanted to mention that a few months ago there was a twt post and I can't find the link now but J!n and V originated from the same family.. kwangju or something. This goes with the theory that they were born into this and one of them are suspected to be s@crificed. Is it because of their blood?
edit: This is their clan:
Gwangju Kim clan, 광주김씨
I found the post but the original twt isn't there the account was suspended
That would make a lot of sense. Funny how these things come out. Maybe that's why the two are always linked. Both December babies too.
 

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This makes me question if their "poor boys became rich" was true. If these two are from satanic families that means they both have a lot of money. But I actually think it is more than two. They all maby except Suga are from not poor families. So it seems like all their pre-debut life was fake. What if those videos where they were living all seven in small apartment was fake? And in reality they had everything what rich kids have but went to shoot the videos and pretend they are poor? I donk know maby i'm wrong but if it's true it would be extremely low cs their images before debut playde huge role in gaining fans. Its a known fact that a lot of hollywood celebs fake their past, like fans found out snoop dogg actually was a very rich kid.
Satanic doesn't always = rich. There's many satanists/witches that are born into poor and mid class families.
 

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omg they just dropped the extended version of 'fake love', this part of the ending scene srsly gave me the creeps but i literally got a heart attack bc of what follows next
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if you look at that brown thing, it comes crashing down on them
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it was weird.... but i honestly dont see how this whole concept, symbolism, them wearing dark cloaks and masks, has to do with realising that you've been receiving fake love and is part of your journey of loving yourself. or maybe im just really dense and not able to connect the dots.

btw, i stumbled on this thread yesterday and its really interesting, im enjoying it a lot!
 
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