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So I was rewatching something a Japanese film that involved some occult elements and it talked about an "awakening". This had me think about J1n's song awake, I didn't really watch the short films and just listened to the music so this time I watched it after hearing some stuff about it being dark. And the short film was very blatant. R M talking about abraxas being 'the god' in his starting monologue. Also, the "Abraxas" on the wallpaper:
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I feel sorry for J1n. Maybe he will be sacrificed... Is this a sign? The lyrics to his song says: "it's my truth [...], but it's my fate, it's my fate, [...], maybe I, I can never fly, [...] maybe I, I can't touch the sky. The song might mean he was born into it? It's his fate and he might know it's wrong so, he can't touch the sky because they worship the god - abraxas? This is really scary if this is true.... :(

Yeah it’s my truth
It’s my truth

온통 상처투성이겠지
But it’s my fate
It’s my fate

그래도 발버둥치고 싶어
Maybe I, I can never fly
저기 저 꽃잎들처럼
날갤 단 것처럼은 안 돼
Maybe I, I can’t touch the sky
그래도 손 뻗고 싶어
달려보고 싶어 조금 더

The short film:
 
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the general conclusion here after watching the comeback trailer and music video is that this was jungkook's initiation.
In the last scene you see the demon waiting for him and you see 6 hangers behind him (representing the other 6 members who already made the pact)

Maybe in the video the others can't see him because he was the only one who was not into the dark side yet.
In the mnet performance we see Jungkook is the last one to put on the cloak, probably representing he was the last one to join
In the new album he also has a full song produced by him and he has the key part of the choreo. All this could mean he has been promoted and this is why he is the main character in this comeback
Woow this could also be a possibility! Your comment gave me the chills. Thanks for sharing your opinion with me.
 

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so I finally watched RM full vlive, a few things I noticed:

1: RM can't stay still for one second, I was so close to stop watching because he can't stop moving (not relevant to this topic but it just annoyed me lol)
2: RM talks about how fast he can write lyrics and how much the CEO praised him for writing "singularity" RM mentions the CEO gave him an aplause for his perfect work
3: RM has nothing to say about "Fake Love" lyrics or their satanic performance, when he had to speak about the song he just showed an old demo and that was it
4: RM loves Marx and talked about marxism in the middle of the vlive
5: RM believes hate and love are the same feeling
6: RM wants the fans to listen to the songs on repeat, he especially talks about "singularity"
7: RM mentions Supreme Boi and says he is a very close friend of him (we wont be seeing armys talking about this)
8: RM talks about the song "Airplane" and he mentions Suga's verse. during his part Suga shades other idols saying they are made to be celebrities and live the celebrity life but he is different. RM really likes this part and he feels the same way
A few minutes later RM talks about going to the bbmas and meeting his favorite celebrities. Proving this celebrity life is not his thing and he is not interested in it ;)

That's about it. If you guys watched and noticed something more please share
I didn't watch it yet..probably wouldn't.. Because his room gives me creeps.. But according to the summary here ..

He's proven... to be a narcissist ..

Loving the way things are going for him..

He sure has the CEO on his side...

And what kind of a person would think love and hate to be the same feelings... Especially who is said to have a high IQ...

His lips are sealed towards FL... Only he knows what they are planning underneath that MV..

And i wonder why he felt the need to talk about marxism.. Maybe to elongate the vlive.. Because seems like. He surely didn't have much to say about his album..
 

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so jungkook just got initiated? I mean all this time, almost six years and he just got initiated?
initiated meaning promoted to the next level, maybe they are planning on giving him a solo project
All the symbols in the comeback trailer indicate this as we see the other members giving objects to the men in black except Jungkook, he gives nothing and then receives a key.. He is also the main protagoinist in the video as we can clearly see

Of course if you have another theory why he was singled out in the video you are free to share it
 

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Ok so for the last few nights, I've been dreaming of BTS and satanism. I'm always trying to save them but can't. One even had John Cena in it. I've had dreams about them in the past, occasionally but they were typically good. Like just hanging out with them. Also everytime I wake up first thing in my mind is Fake Love. The song actually gives me a headache but I can't get it out of my head.
 

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Ok so for the last few nights, I've been dreaming of BTS and satanism. I'm always trying to save them but can't. One even had John Cena in it. I've had dreams about them in the past, occasionally but they were typically good. Like just hanging out with them. Also everytime I wake up first thing in my mind is Fake Love. The song actually gives me a headache but I can't get it out of my head.
Do you think it could be some kind of sign that things are getting even worse behind the scenes? Or potentially it’s the devil toying with you/mocking? Also yeah the second I think of FL the lyrics and melody come just like that in my mind too, I think it’s the use of multiple repetitions of the chorus and prechorus in the song or either I’ve been listening to it too often (its so catchy). Anyways when that happens to me the first thing I do is pray bc I don’t want those type of songs when I just wake up XD
 

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I apologize for posting this since this is offtopic but how do I get over my bias. My bias is Jin. It's literally killing me to the point I can't eat, sleep ,study etc etc . Like legit I studied only an hour today. I feel soo guilty. Like I can't stop thinking about him even when I do the smallest things like brushing my teeth etc etc. I've NEVER fallen for a guy this hard my whole life. His smile, his voice EVERYTHING is making me nuts. Bc of that I'm so awkward at socializing and have not grown in my life . I am not as motivated about life as I was and am soo insecure about myself that I don't even try to reach my goals. Im lazy to do even the basic things im supporter to do.When I got to know abt the illuminati in bts it became the opposite. I started having more feelings towards him. I m not even giving time to god at all.
How did you'll cope up with this.?? Please I want my life back again. I want control and happiness I used to have. Please help!
Baby, this also happened to me, but instead of obsessing over one member, I was with the seven of them! I feel you cuz that’s exactly how I felt . Right after I woke up I thought about them, I couldn’t do anything! My heart wanted more of them. I also didn’t know what to do and how to get my life back! Just like you, I didn’t give my time to God and my family. Thy are everything above anyone else’s. There’s no comparison. I even looked at other groups in order to balance out my obsession bcause before knowing bt$ i was in a multifandom. But after knowing them, i forgot other groups. When i listen to a song I’d skip other singers and listen to their songs it was crazy like i was under a spell!
So I said to myself I cannot be like this. So I went to search something that can make me hate them. I typed bt$ illumin@+i and the videos that showed up wasn’t convincing enough and some of them were fanmade mocking those who believe in the occult.
So one day i came across one video that exposed them and in the comment section some of you guys posted a link inviting those who wants to know the truth to this group and im so grateful! So many informations , it opened my eyes!
So what did i do next was muting all bt$ related on twitter, unfollowed all the fan accounts on all social medjas. Deleted all of their albums. It was so hard at first. So i keep on coming back at this forum as an alternate route to escape. I stopped everything. It takes time, but I’m okay now! I no longer craving for them, I feel better. I’m stanning K soloists now like Jung Seung Hwan, Ben , Heize. Less harming lol!
So don’t give up and keep on fighting okay! We are all here if you need anything because we were all once an ARM¥ and used to be under their spell . Xoxo
 

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Praying helps
Yesterday I was reading/watching YT videos on Mk Ultra, Aleister Crowley, satanism, pizza gate, demons spells in music and tv etc
Towards the night close to my bedtime I felt uneasy... I knew it could be one of those nights where I have a nightmare or am spiritually attacked so I prayed and had Yeshua in my head. I slept so peacefully and no bad dreams. I'm not saying convert to christianity or anything like that just simply giving out some advice. Also maybe try to not watch them or listen to their music (spells are in music) that may be why you're having those dreams. Just a thought... good luck and be strong!
 

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Guys I just wanted to mention that a few months ago there was a twt post and I can't find the link now but J!n and V originated from the same family.. kwangju or something. This goes with the theory that they were born into this and one of them are suspected to be s@crificed. Is it because of their blood?
edit: This is their clan:
Gwangju Kim clan, 광주김씨
I found the post but the original twt isn't there the account was suspended
Interesting finding, thank you! I wonder what significance it holds for them in the eyes of the elite..



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gim_clan_of_Gwangsan
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A couple of things I want to point out about the choreography. I saw this FL clip. It's YG during a performance. I know everything we've discussed is all a part of perception, so take this however you see it.
There is a part in the dance that emulates taking a dagger to the heart--a stabbing motion I never noticed. You can see it after he moves to the opposite side of the stage and gets on his knees.

http://instagr.am/p/BjcetuDFWCE/

I've been wondering if someone tells their choreographer what elements to add to the dances (Ke0ne and others, not the one at BH label). I know he choreographed Tae's intro, I don't know if he choreographed FL, though I bet he did. Or someone may explain what the song is really about and he goes from there. Idk.

I still haven't watched NJ's vlive. Do you think he doesn't really talk about FL because he knows what it is truly about? (It's the real fan song disguised as a love song, haha.)

I thought there was something else I wanted to say about their choreography but I lost it I suppose. Carry on.
 

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I didn't watch it yet..probably wouldn't.. Because his room gives me creeps.. But according to the summary here ..

He's proven... to be a narcissist ..

Loving the way things are going for him..

He sure has the CEO on his side...

And what kind of a person would think love and hate to be the same feelings... Especially who is said to have a high IQ...

His lips are sealed towards FL... Only he knows what they are planning underneath that MV..

And i wonder why he felt the need to talk about marxism.. Maybe to elongate the vlive.. Because seems like. He surely didn't have much to say about his album..
High IQ only means he can memorize well
It doesn't determine intelligence
 
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