BTS discussion thread

[BitternessisSweet]

Just did mine for y00n-g11.

Edit: Just did one for Jay k too. I have 2 twitter accounts

 

[DarkAndWild]

Edit: Just did one for Jay k too. I have 2 twitter accounts

I’m curious what did you write lol?

 

[saintroserosalia]

It's so obvious his happy persona is fake, even the fans say that.
I personally like him more than others, I think he is cool person irl, and it's actually good that he is hiding his true self from the fans. Cs armys need to know everything about them, they will crawl through any hole to find out every little piece of their life. So he is quite smart saving himself only for his close people. If you always pretend bright sunshine without any mood changes people have nothing to discuss about you. He also doesn't really shares so much personal information about his feelings, for fans everyrhing always "fine". If I would be under microscope 24/7 I would do the same.
I think in real life he's closer to Suga, definitely more manly and serious. And if you remember in 2013 he was much more masculine, diffrent from now, I think it's closer to his true persona.
While Suga doesnt care and just being himself. They are my two favorite , I also think they both are not bad people.

Exactly. I love that he could live separately, lols. His ambition is to be professional artist, meaning he could sacrifice his personal sadness for trading his fans' smiles - this is quite a noble thing to do. I think this isn't necessarily a hypocrite thing to do but because of the fact being a popstar is his job. He is literally good at his job. Also, Hoseok always hangs out with same friends (the gang includes not famous kpop idols) ever since the first days of his debut. Something I really like about him. He doesn't take his old friends for granted. I wish Hangsang would feature his older friends, instead of Supreme Boi (if u guys think Nj was shady, i think S.B is far worse )

 

[Only Time Will Tell]

R M might have low-self esteem or self-image problem/ narcissism as he said in one of the interviews in U.S @ 1:37

But I think he hides this by putting his dominance over others. Example, his english he is very proud of that , his height (he did put some shade on J M before teasing(?)), his mindset on external beauty (jh0p3), his projection of confidence maybe a facade...But take with a grain of salt, possibility too that interviews are scripted

Yes! I agree. I think he’s very image-conscious and cares a lot about the impression he gives off to people. The way he forcibly laughs whenever the others answer because the interviewer laughed, or says things like “I don’t know what he’s doing” and “I don’t know why he’s like this”, is almost like he’s trying to separate himself from them.

 

[truthseeker019821837]

Compiled the images that looks like occult symbolism and my interpretation of them. There is something really fishy or I'm not getting the connection between fake love and cloaked men wearing masks..... Lots of things I noticed: hands/ symbol of control, puppet dance choreography, dungeon/prison-like settings and wardrobe, animal prints, childhood symbols (carousel) etc.., bdsm(harnesses)

Also, the lyrics that spoke of being controlled:

Love you so bad, love you so bad
Mold a pretty lie for you
Love it’s so mad, love it’s so mad
Try to erase myself and make me your doll
Love you so bad, love you so bad
Mold a pretty lie for you
Love it’s so mad, love it’s so mad
Try to erase myself and make me your doll

Spoiler

The fake love is really confusing/ what do these symbols even mean? The hands behind? See no evil.....? or is it a symbol of being trapped or controlled?
This move of being controlled like a puppet:
This looks like lost of innocence.Their hands are reaching for something above? Reaching for help? Also, the hands behind them (could mean the puppeteers controlling them behind the scenes)
This setting to the left, what are those circular things on the ceiling? Looking like a cat/leopard/animal?This choreography looks like a puppet being controlled as wellThis BDSM thing is not in good taste. Why do they need to wear these harnesses? What's it relation to the theme? What is the demographic of those listening and watching BT$ and do they know what this means? SO many questions.... Probably a symbol of control as well and bondage and them being s3xual symbols...

 

[truthseeker019821837]

Continuation: Are they trying to make belonging in the cult look cool? This theme is just so suspicious and sinister

Spoiler

Animal prints again, blank stares, those circular things hanging from the roof.
The most telling, being surrounded by these hooded figures, them in the middleThen them putting on the cloaks and masks one by one.

 

[Chic]

Compiled the images that looks like occult symbolism and my interpretation of them. There is something really fishy or I'm not getting the connection between fake love and cloaked men wearing masks..... Lots of things I noticed: hands/ symbol of control, puppet dance choreography, dungeon/prison-like settings and wardrobe, animal prints, childhood symbols (carousel) etc.., bdsm(harnesses)

Also, the lyrics that spoke of being controlled:

Spoiler

The fake love is really confusing/ what do these symbols even mean? The hands behind? See no evil.....? or is it a symbol of being trapped or controlled?
View attachment 7873This move of being controlled like a puppet:
View attachment 7877View attachment 7879This looks like lost of innocence.View attachment 7876Their hands are reaching for something above? Reaching for help? Also, the hands behind them (could mean the puppeteers controlling them behind the scenes)
View attachment 7874This setting to the left, what are those circular things on the ceiling? View attachment 7875Looking like a cat/leopard/animal?View attachment 7878View attachment 7880This choreography looks like a puppet being controlled as wellView attachment 7881This BDSM thing is not in good taste. Why do they need to wear these harnesses? What's it relation to the theme? What is the demographic of those listening and watching BT$ and do they know what this means? SO many questions.... Probably a symbol of control as well and bondage and them being s3xual symbols...View attachment 7882

I'm in the middle of reading this but the hand sculpture for certain represents see, hear, speak no evil.

I'm convinced the song is about the celebrity life/their fans. The lyrics don't match with the struggles and conflicts that arise in typical relationships.
Thinking back to their old songs about love they would include 'girl'. Now, not so much.

 

[Christina D.]

I'm in the middle of reading this but the hand sculpture for certain represents see, hear, speak no evil.

I'm convinced the song is about the celebrity life/their fans. The lyrics don't match with the struggles and conflicts that arise in typical relationships.
Thinking back to their old songs about love they would include 'girl'. Now, not so much.

Yeah, I think they also said in some interview it was about not being true to yourself of lying to yourself and making yourself believe you are someone you’re not but idk. Also I noticed the mirror NJ is looking into, in the LY context it’s prob a reference to the song ‘Reflection’, but I also know that occultists use mirrors as a gateway to the spirit world/communicate with demons. Not saying any artist that uses a mirror in their mv is automatically implying that but ye.

 

[Christina D.]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000744124218269696

Some ppl seem to be finally getting the idea that BH isn’t a ‘pure’ company, while others are still adamant they could never let such things like this happen to the boys/do anything bad to them.

 

[Chic]

Yeah, I think they also said in some interview it was about not being true to yourself of lying to yourself and making yourself believe you are someone you’re not but idk. Also I noticed the mirror NJ is looking into, in the LY context it’s prob a reference to the song ‘Reflection’, but I also know that occultists use mirrors as a gateway to the spirit world/communicate with demons. Not saying any artist that uses a mirror in their mv is automatically implying that but ye.

It's really not a reflection, though. He's seeing a different image. It was somewhat the same with the flower in BS&T. Think it is an image that's supposed to represent him being perfect? I don't know how to say this. And English is my language lol.

 

[Christina D.]

Also lol at this thread but the one esp about S m, j*p, and y g being dethroned in like 2 days and BH at #1 in korea really drives home the fact that they HAVE to be involved with some higher elites

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/970139564059889669

And then the rest of my feed rn is just ppl praising yg’s mind for “thinking of a goal, sharing it, and then having it reached”

 

[Christina D.]

It's really not a reflection, though. He's seeing a different image. It was somewhat the same with the flower in BS&T. Think it is an image that's supposed to represent him being perfect? I don't know how to say this. And English is my language lol.

Yeah that makes sense ahah, seeing the ‘perfect’ version/essentially skewed of himself in the mirror.

 

[saintroserosalia]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000744124218269696

Some ppl seem to be finally getting the idea that BH isn’t a ‘pure’ company, while others are still adamant they could never let such things like this happen to the boys/do anything bad to them.

True. But are the boys really that innocent? They really don't have much saying even after gaining so much fame worldwide???

 

[Maggieca]

Continuation: Are they trying to make belonging in the cult look cool? This theme is just so suspicious and sinister

Spoiler

Animal prints again, blank stares, those circular things hanging from the roof.
View attachment 7883The most telling, being surrounded by these hooded figures, them in the middleView attachment 7884Then them putting on the cloaks and masks one by one. View attachment 7885View attachment 7886View attachment 7887View attachment 7888View attachment 7889View attachment 7890View attachment 7891View attachment 7892

Very interesting!! I only watched the MV once so a lot of things I didn't notice
That room with the circular things hanging is weird also RM looking at himself in the mirror but his reflection is wearing the leopard print (his stage persona, slave?)

About the FL performance I wonder if the order they were shown putting the cloacks has some significance, like how high in rank they are or maybe the order they joined? also notice how all of them were shown alone but Jhope and Jimin appeared together. This could mean nothing but makes me curious

 

[blissfate]

Very interesting!! I only watched the MV once so a lot of things I didn't notice
That room with the circular things hanging is weird also RM looking at himself in the mirror but his reflection is wearing the leopard print (his stage persona, slave?)

About the FL performance I wonder if the order they were shown putting the cloacks has some significance, like how high in rank they are or maybe the order they joined? also notice how all of them were shown alone but Jhope and Jimin appeared together. This could mean nothing but makes me curious

I'm also wondering why jk's eyes go back whenever he puts the hood on
Makes me uncomfortable bc it looks like hes glaring at the camera

and it was probably the order they joined tbh
That also might explain that tae probably had to sacrifice since hes stayed the longest.. im sure all of them will have their chances eventually

 

[Maggieca]

and it was probably the order they joined tbh

You are right. Watched that part of the performance again to see the order and is this:

1- Tae
2- Jin
3- RM
4- Yoongi
5- Jhope and Jimin
6- Jungkook

If the order means something maybe our theories about Tae and Jin being born into it are real and that would explain why they were the first to join (I'm surprised they appeared before RM tbh)

 

[Chic]

Very interesting!! I only watched the MV once so a lot of things I didn't notice
That room with the circular things hanging is weird also RM looking at himself in the mirror but his reflection is wearing the leopard print (his stage persona, slave?)

About the FL performance I wonder if the order they were shown putting the cloacks has some significance, like how high in rank they are or maybe the order they joined? also notice how all of them were shown alone but Jhope and Jimin appeared together. This could mean nothing but makes me curious

I thought the same too only cos JK was last. I wouldn't have thought so if he didn't appear last.

 

[Maggieca]

I thought the same too only cos JK was last. I wouldn't have thought so if he didn't appear last.

same. the last comeback looked like some kind of initiation for him so I think that part of that performance has a deeper meaning

Also some new pictures I see on my TL. count how many times they covered one eye

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000900237114961921

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000903892404789248

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000904738739834881

 

[Maggieca]

It would make more sense for yoongi and joon to be first since they'd do whatever it takes to make it to the top (cause of their music). It's weird how tae and jin are first though cause they just stumbled upon the music industry by chance.

True. But we had a theory here about 2 members being born into it and remember Jin and Tae are the main characters of the story (representing good and evil)

 

[Christina D.]

same. the last comeback looked like some kind of initiation for him so I think that part of that performance has a deeper meaning

Also some new pictures I see on my TL. count how many times they covered one eye

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000900237114961921

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000903892404789248

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000904738739834881

REMOVE YO HAND BOI YOU HAVE 2 EYES
I cringe