BTS discussion thread

[Maggieca]

We concluded that Jimin is [possibly] drunk during the CB show. He showed signs like stumbling over his own feet.

lol yeah I remember. but I've seen them mock the fans so many times that I just dont trust them tbh

 

[Chic]

lol yeah I remember. but I've seen them mock the fans so many times that I just dont trust them tbh

Oh, I see what you mean now. Yeah, joke's on ARMY I guess.

 

[Maggieca]

Ok I have seen the posts about possible abuse. While working on my theories and analyzing videos literally frame by frame I came across this image in the Run MV. We know B!g H!t is meticulous in their videos and nothing is coincidence right. So tell me what ya'll think of this.

sorry maybe I'm blind and slow but what is going on in this picture?I don't get it

 

[Hopeful]

They even had jin floating and the members doing magic? in their MAMA 2017 performance

Okayyy so we have.. Blue moon.. Wormholes.. Eye.. DNA Supernovas.. Levitation.. K00k and h0pe playing with supernatural powers .. Coexistence... Weird robots of new w0rld 0rdr... And lastly 2:06 RM landing on earth.. Like some fallen angel or ant1chr1st ...

That's enough proof.. Of them being puppets to the elite.. Who want to force their orders

 

[MochiAmour]

Namjoon mentioned this fan project in so many American interviews, it seems they were sincere about it. And Ta3 even said "I purple you" on v live afterparty, so I thought they appreciated it. Maybe it was their director giving them these cues?

I guess one of the fans gave that ribbon to one of their staff so they must've asked for it. It seems cute in context but if they are really into the occult they could easily use that ribbon for spellbinding, etc.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000165093160685568

 

[saintroserosalia]

How can fans be this blind its actually concerning

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/999812683607064579

Actually those quotes are more like memes from Shane and Ryan, hosts from Buzzfeed Supernatural. I know this because I watch the program. They always talk like that whenever they go into a haunted place, esp that has demonic presence.

 

[Hopeful]

Taehyung's body harness was custom made for him

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The first time I saw it, it reminds me of bondage (bdsm)


(it's a doll, but I still cencored some body parts lol)
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What is BDSM?

BDSM is the generic term used today in the literature for a group of related sexual preferences, often blurred as sadomasochism (SM for short or Sado-Maso for short). Other possible names include leather sex or kinky sex. The term encompasses a very diverse group of mostly sexual behaviors that may be related, inter alia, to domination and submission, playful punishment, and pleasure pain or bondage games. "BDSM" comes from the initials of the English terms "Bondage & Discipline, Dominance & Submission, Sadism & Masochism".

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A BDSM game usually takes place between an active and a passive part. The passive part (also called "bottom" or "sub") takes on the role of the "victim", which is playfully bound, beaten or humiliated in the previously defined framework, but also rewarded and caressed. His pleasure usually comes from feelings of apparent helplessness, being trapped or being "brought up", and giving up responsibility in the hands of the trusted partner. Of course he can stop the game at any time with the Safeword, if it should be too much for him. Depending on your personal preferences, the passive part can be directly subdued or playfully overwhelmed.

The active part is called "Top" or "Dom". He is the one who binds the passives, punishes, punches or teases playfully, but also rewards and caresses. In doing so, he pays attention to act only within the previously agreed limits and he pays attention to the physical as well as emotional state of his partner. For the active, the desire to play usually comes from exercising power in excess of the passive, controlling it or even educating it playfully. "

Bondage
This word describes all activities in which the partner is tied up or otherwise restricted in freedom of movement. Ropes and handcuffs are often used as a means to an end, but leather straps, chains, tape or other suitable objects are also used. For the bottom, the pleasure is often in their own apparent helplessness and the idea of being at the mercy of the partner defenseless. The active, in this case the captivating part, can enjoy the futile liberation attempts and its apparent power over the bound. In doing so, the top pays particular attention to the physical and psychological well-being of his "victim" so that, for example, the ropes are not tightened too tightly to avoid constrictions or other health risks.

BDSM (Bondage) is also part of Monarch Programming.

Anyway. Monarch slaves are commonly dressed in all sorts of triggers, including collars, red shoes (Wizard of Oz programming), chains, winged eye makeup (to reference the eye of Horus), reflective materials, animal prints, black and white (duality), etc. They also adhere to behaviours seen by other beta slaves, including sexual gestures, the covering of one eye, lack of much clothing, the list goes on.

When their mind has a hunch about what they are (and it always does to some extent, because the spirit sees and knows all), and how they became that way, the mind sometimes attempts to wreak havoc on the internal system in an attempt to bring the fragmented pieces of their ego back together. This also tends to happen quite frequently the older the subject gets because cerebral atrophy begins to set in. This is exactly why we see so many mysterious “celebrity deaths” when monarch slaves reach early-middle age- they’re being disposed of. Programming doesn’t tend to stay stable once they reach a certain age, so once they’re no longer useful or bringing in revenue, they’re no longer needed. There’s even something dubbed the “27 Club”, due to the strange number of celebrity deaths at that specific age.

As far as pushing the occult symbolism, a lot of it has to do with how cooperative their front alter(s) is. If they, themselves are programmed to be into into occult/esoteric symbolism or mystic-type religions like Luciferianism, Kabbalah, Scientology, etc, then there’s no reason to try and obscure the meaning of the symbolism or agenda they’re being used to push. In fact, many are more than happy to oblige. Remember, their front alters usually don’t tend to have many questions or desires beyond their bubble they happily live in. Taking orders and making the money they do makes for an easy, comfortable life. That, in turn, makes it easy to just cooperate- regardless of whether or not they agree with or even understand what they’re being used to push.

Hmm this is sad to be honest .. I don't know who to feel sorry for.. V or the army who finds such stuff hot on them... Sometimes i think some out of 7 boys are slaves too except RM.. He seems like happy with this .. We can't condemn the others.. Maybe they are as hopeless as Us .... And are stuck with some sort of contract

 

[Hopeful]

I guess one of the fans gave that ribbon to one of their staff so they must've asked for it. It seems cute in context but if they are really into the occult they could easily use that ribbon for spellbinding, etc.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000165093160685568

Yes that's a good excuse to cover 1 eye and lips . .. Nobody would notice.. And i would be keeping my v0w of silence

 

[Hopeful]

Ok I have seen the posts about possible abuse. While working on my theories and analyzing videos literally frame by frame I came across this image in the Run MV. We know B!g H!t is meticulous in their videos and nothing is coincidence right. So tell me what ya'll think of this.

Lets divide the drawing in 3 parts.. First part was like a stick figure we used to draw in Hangman game.. But thus one looks absolutely angry with eyes popping out and frown.. And in its hand is maybe another figure but mostly i feel like it's a ball with a pentagram roughly drawn in it.. The ball may represent sheeple... And 3rd thing is i don't know maybe a mailbox or a dustbin type thing.. Well whatever it is.. It's weird

 

[Christina D.]

Anyone notice the pyramid/triangle background on the KBS performance(s) today? (idk which show I just know it’s on this channel) :// They were performing “inside” it

 

[Hopeful]

the "Come Back Home" mv scene has a lot of similarity with bts's mv.


School concept (like BTS in Boy In Luv MV)

Boxing (like Jimin in Danger MV)

The Upside down scene (like BTS in Young Forever MV)

The Walk on the bridge alone (like BTS in Run/I Need U MV)

Doing dashi run (like BTS in Run MV)

Graffiti (like BTS in Run MV)

Pills (like BTS in I Need U MV)

Beaten up (like Jungkook in I Need U MV)

Cassette tape (like Suga in Fire MV)

The Blood on hand (like Taehyung in I Need U MV)

Why do i think in the graffiti pics.. In the first one from the other MV.. The person is spraying the letters B T T S S? What actually did he write.. Is the first letter B or some other letter?

 

[Hopeful]

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Anyone notice the pyramid/triangle background on the KBS performance(s) today? (idk which show I just know it’s on this channel) :// They were performing “inside” it

Yes it was right behind them in the middle..

 

[WhiteSnowflakesN]

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So few pages back, someone mentioned about Jin’s behavior at award ceremonies when camera was pointed at him, he’d suddenly changing his persona.
Reading from this forum about MK ultra, the torture, glitches, triggering words, I think Jin might be the one that gets the ‘extra’ torture so that he won’t rebel or do anything that can harm the group’s popularity (leaving the group etc)

And did you guys noticed how Jin is easily scared/shocked at something? Like, I wonder if it’s normal since he’s a grown up man? Maybe yes maybe not.
Because he’s the only one that’s under appreciated and always be given the tiniest part. Even Minzy from 2NE1 left the group because how YG treated her like a stepdaughter (less promoting etc).
That explains the behavior in my point of view.

Pay attention to his eyes at 4:10 to 4:15

 

[Chic]

Does anyone know when their contract will be up for renewal?

 

[AwayFromDevilsDeception]

I guess one of the fans gave that ribbon to one of their staff so they must've asked for it. It seems cute in context but if they are really into the occult they could easily use that ribbon for spellbinding, etc.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1000165093160685568

Reminds me of this:


I'm quoting this from another thread: The Rise of Kpop and The Fetishization of Korean Groups

"A fascinating image. Let’s peel this onion. On the most superficial level, IU is presented as a “pure” yet fetishized (her bare feet serving to code her, especially in the Asian/Korean semiotic context, as innocent, yet fetishized object for the consumption of the viewer, with the balance being tipped over to the sexual by the universal semiotic code for sexuality in the parted lips and the lascivious invite of the tongue. She is symbolically either bound by the ribbon as a gift, even as the suggestion of her being tied up, passive, and available being part of the gift itself. Her being symbolically bound, barefoot, and available denotes her lack of agency, while her pose, expression, and lewd lick seem to suggest the opposite — a sexual agency that is actually utilizing the seemingly contradictory elements of her softness as argued with her sweater and perfect, ladylike tresses to ensnare the viewer. She is a contradictory, dialectical presentation of the Girl, which most viewers will interpret in the way their own sexual desires will tend: She is represented as offering herself as a fetish, fuck object that utilizes semiotically coded innocence as a main part of the invitation."

I think you can imagine the same concept applied to V and his appeal to the fans. Gotta keep them obssessed and enchanted by his beauty. Cause sexual appeal is key in most fashion photoshoots. You don't play with a ribbon just like that as a token of appreciation to the fans. Every move, every pose, every stare had its purpose.

 

[Bae Yeon Hee]

Anyone notice the pyramid/triangle background on the KBS performance(s) today? (idk which show I just know it’s on this channel) :// They were performing “inside” it

Yep, also the black/white duality + animal print outfits in the fake love performance.

 

[saintroserosalia]

Reminds me of this:
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I'm quoting this from another thread: The Rise of Kpop and The Fetishization of Korean Groups

"A fascinating image. Let’s peel this onion. On the most superficial level, IU is presented as a “pure” yet fetishized (her bare feet serving to code her, especially in the Asian/Korean semiotic context, as innocent, yet fetishized object for the consumption of the viewer, with the balance being tipped over to the sexual by the universal semiotic code for sexuality in the parted lips and the lascivious invite of the tongue. She is symbolically either bound by the ribbon as a gift, even as the suggestion of her being tied up, passive, and available being part of the gift itself. Her being symbolically bound, barefoot, and available denotes her lack of agency, while her pose, expression, and lewd lick seem to suggest the opposite — a sexual agency that is actually utilizing the seemingly contradictory elements of her softness as argued with her sweater and perfect, ladylike tresses to ensnare the viewer. She is a contradictory, dialectical presentation of the Girl, which most viewers will interpret in the way their own sexual desires will tend: She is represented as offering herself as a fetish, fuck object that utilizes semiotically coded innocence as a main part of the invitation."

I think you can imagine the same concept applied to V and his appeal to the fans. Gotta keep them obssessed and enchanted by his beauty. Cause sexual appeal is key in most fashion photoshoots. You don't play with a ribbon just like that as a token of appreciation to the fans. Every move, every pose, every stare had its purpose.

I really don't understand how one would love to take so many photoshoots within a day. The same goes to those people who love taking selfies wherever they go and wherever they are, lols. I remember few of you guys were asking where the boys 'gone to' in the midst of the BBMAs ceremony. It's because the boys were doing photoshoot for Dispatch, lols. It's true that the sole purpose of most photoshoots is only to appease the appetite of the fans. (Maybe it's just me but I prefer my fave artists to be as low-key as possible, and I would prefer them doing more artistic types of photos, rather the type that IU's doing) I'm so sick at looking outer beauty that's perpetuated by either by the fashion world or pop culture.

 

[WOKE_ARMY]

jimin's reaction here is so strange
Is JK joke really so funny? he just said "I dreamed about army" and Jimin can't stop laughing? I can't find the joke here. unless they think dreaming about their fans is a joke
Or maybe they know their music gives fans creepy dreams and they think this is amusing

Oh ya, bow that you mentioned it, it got me thinking what’s so funny?

We concluded that Jimin is [possibly] drunk during the CB show. He showed signs like stumbling over his own feet.

Yep! He was too happy and behaved like a kid who had sugar rush.

They are becoming weird day by day ... K00k is doing what they do with their songs.. The opposite game ... He might have never seen the army but the army is sick of seeing them in their dreams.. They know it.. Twitter is full of this dream thing about b4ngt4n and they playing the opposite meaning card..

Yes since they’re active on social media and they know what’s going on around the fandom. Oh my God I just can with these boys nemore.

And you guys’ replies are giving me goosebumps here with the harness thing and also the purple ribbon and all the analysis!

 

[Chic]

I watched the Mnet pre live show.
Don't get me wrong, I still think Yoongi is only growing tired of the showbiz aspect of his career. However, he did look sad and overall disinterested. He didn't say a word. Only introduced himself while the others were putting on for the camera. I wonder what's going on in that soul of his? I hope he's not feeling depressed again.

Anyway, I can't get over that eerie ending to FL performance. It was ok up until that part.

 

[Christina D.]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/998531261529387014

Bruh.