BTS discussion thread

[UnspokenSoliloquy]

Because...i dance myself, on stage people fake.
We all fake on stage.
We interpret the song like actors, that's the way it is.

I can agree with this. Their “ onstage” personality is full of swag and confidence. Off stage, their regular guys, quiet and sometimes shy.

 

[Maggieca]

BTS are predicted to debut at #1 on the HOT 200 and if this does happen that is just more confirmation that their popurality in America is NOT going to go downhill.

wow that's big tbh.
I wonder where will they debut in the hot100, I think getting into the top20 would be massive for them but can they do it? we wait

 

[UnspokenSoliloquy]

Hello everyone. I just wanted to share with you my thoughts. And please don't attack me. But I don't understand the BTS phenomenon. Everytime I ask this question to people they always answer it's because of their dance skills and songs about mental health. I do think they have few catchy songs but I just can't make myself scream,cry and kiss screen everytime they show up. I don't want to put their work down but there are many other groups both male and female who can dance and sing meangful songs but they never reached fame and popularity of BTS.
Same I don't understand the phenomenon of Justin Bieber, Selena Gomez, Taylor Swift, Adele, Cardi B, Beyonce and other artists that are extremely famous these days. I'm trying to understand that myself and I get into conclusion that they have to cast a spell or some kind other hypnosis because people are becoming addicted and acting out of their characters by listening their music. This is totally not working on me. I don't understand their uniqueness.
I wanted to share a personal story: two years ago for my psychology classes there was invited a man who could put people into hypnosis and make them do certain things or make them remember so called past life. Everyone in my group of 17 people fell into this hypnosis except me. I just couldn't fall asleep or get into that relaxed state that he wanted me to. He was counting to 10, snapping fingers, touching my hand, and said some triggering words but nothing worked. I was just sitting there looking at his efforts like he was a clown or something. He suddenly got somehow angry and asked me: 'are you blocking me?' I replied I have no idea how to do that and he said: 'you're defenetly blocking me'. So to end my post I think all these famous people are really doing some kind of rituals on stage or in music videos but they don't work on anyone.

We are dauntless (if you’ve ever see divergent)

 

[Chic]

We are dauntless (if you’ve ever see divergent)

Lol

 

[saintroserosalia]

wow that's big tbh.
I wonder where will they debut in the hot100, I think getting into the top20 would be massive for them but can they do it? we wait

Well, they already hit No.7 BB Hot 200 the previous comeback. They definitely hit higher than 7 this time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Yourself:_Her

 

[Maggieca]

Well, they already hit No.7 BB Hot 200 the previous comeback. They definitely hit higher than 7 this time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Yourself:_Her

yeah but I think the hot100 is more important because it's for the songs. Having a full korean song on top20 would be big and with DNA they debuted at 85 last year

 

[saintroserosalia]

yeah but I think the hot100 is more important because it's for the songs. Having a full korean song on top20 would be big and with DNA they debuted at 85 last year

Oh! My bad, I didn't see Hot 100 in your sentence @.@ I thought u were saying Hot 200 @.@ Yeah, I agree about top20 song. It might just happen. BTS keeps breaking their own records anyway.

 

[Bae Yeon Hee]

Tyra's an ARMY now. They've followed each other.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/998680511642910720

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/998680515472277505

Major for so MANY reasons? Hmm wonder what those reasons are? TBH the more popular they get among Hollywood celebs the less I like them.

 

[MochiAmour]

Major for so MANY reasons? Hmm wonder what those reasons are? TBH the more popular they get among Hollywood celebs the less I like them.

I've been feeling this way but not because of the celebs trying to jump on the bandwagon. It's so weird because I woke up today, and it felt as if a switch almost went off in me because I don't feel as excited for them anymore. I haven't even listened to 'Fake Love' today when that's literally all I've been playing since it was released. It's weird considering last night I was on the verge of tears after watching their performance because of how proud I was of them. I think it turned me off seeing the reactions about the things people found wrong with their stage so much that it became the main focus instead and I found it disappointing. It suddenly just felt very toxic and I'm on the brink of not considering myself an ARMY anymore. If all these theories are true, I guess it's a good thing that I've maybe snapped and I'm slowly weaning myself off of them.

 

[UnspokenSoliloquy]

I’m bringing this up cause it may be relevant but you guys know Willow Smith? She’s Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith’s daughter. If you don’t know, when she was about 9 or 10 she had a hit song called whip my hair. Here an inter view about her talking about how she started cutting herself after the song.

She talked about being in a grey area and only wanting to listen to dark music.
Read it. https://bckonline.com/2018/05/15/willow-smith-admits-to-cutting-herself-after-whip-my-hair-success/

It makes me thing of the vibes the the recording studios. Are spirits attaching to these musicians while they sing in there? It’s crazy how this type of success sends a 10 year old into this state, she even said she kinda lost her mind a bit which makes me think it’s the atmosphere of the room, especially if we are making claims that they cast spells and all of that, it can be done right there in the studio.

 

[MochiAmour]

I’m bringing this up cause it may be relevant but you guys know Willow Smith? She’s Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith’s daughter. If you don’t know, when she was about 9 or 10 she had a hit song called whip my hair. Here an inter view about her talking about how she started cutting herself after the song.

She talked about being in a grey area and only wanting to listen to dark music.
Read it. https://bckonline.com/2018/05/15/willow-smith-admits-to-cutting-herself-after-whip-my-hair-success/

It makes me thing of the vibes the the recording studios. Are spirits attaching to these musicians while they sing in there? It’s crazy how this type of success sends a 10 year old into this state, she even said she kinda lost her mind a bit which makes me think it’s the atmosphere of the room, especially if we are making claims that they cast spells and all of that, it can be done right there in the studio.

I think so. She also grew up within the industry and her parents are speculated to be heavily involved in the occult.

 

[blissfate]

Idk if this introductory type post is allowed but lemme just say I’ve been awake for 6 years now, and every year that I’ve been a fan of BTS I’ve always hoped in a corner of my mind and prayed that things wouldn’t come to everything that is currently in this thread. I only kept opinions like this buried in my mind of course, but praise the LORD that I found this thread, it is opening my eyes on so many levels because I was left feeling VERY conflicted again after last night's lit BBMAs performance, and I am subtly more relieved to know I won’t be virtually mauled by other crazed fans for voicing my concern over the direction everything surrounding BTS is going in. Have y’all talked about the new album already? Also one more thing, every time I see a one eye sign or blatant symbolism in their m/v or short films, I get so sad. Another note, I bought tickets to their concert in Sept, so I’ll see how that goes as they always have short films with symbolism throughout their concerts. Anyways, I hope to be very active on here & am glad to have found like-minded people. Still praying for the boys everyday.

Ah be careful going to their concert.. those things are set up for brainwash (as are movie theaters), especially since its easier to have a spell casted onto you (probably why I prefer going to fanmeets)

 

[blissfate]

Major for so MANY reasons? Hmm wonder what those reasons are? TBH the more popular they get among Hollywood celebs the less I like them.

I agree and the more random people in my school mention them the less I feel attracted to them

 

[blissfate]

I’m bringing this up cause it may be relevant but you guys know Willow Smith? She’s Will Smith and Jada Pinkett-Smith’s daughter. If you don’t know, when she was about 9 or 10 she had a hit song called whip my hair. Here an inter view about her talking about how she started cutting herself after the song.

She talked about being in a grey area and only wanting to listen to dark music.
Read it. https://bckonline.com/2018/05/15/willow-smith-admits-to-cutting-herself-after-whip-my-hair-success/

It makes me thing of the vibes the the recording studios. Are spirits attaching to these musicians while they sing in there? It’s crazy how this type of success sends a 10 year old into this state, she even said she kinda lost her mind a bit which makes me think it’s the atmosphere of the room, especially if we are making claims that they cast spells and all of that, it can be done right there in the studio.

I meaaaaaan those dolls in nj's room don't give off positive energy from what i can sense
and if you look at nj's rumored rising sign it says he is in-touch with the spiritual world
So is it really that crazy to think he might be a magician or occultist (And thats he's very passionate about his "craft" or whatever that means it seems to have a correlation with witchcraft)
Or might be having entities attach to the music and the group members in general

I just think hes lying about who he says he is most definitely

Its kinda weird that some of the characteristics of his rising sign I seem to share due to other aspects in my chart

 

[blissfate]

Sooo I feel like a bad person whenever i mention sacrifices buuuuuuuuuut
it says that Jimin sacrifices for others on his rumored rising sign

Correlation??
I have doubts about this one because of how heavily brainwashed and manipulated he seems to be..
and how jin seems to be the target for sacrifices

 

[Yeon]

...Its kinda weird that some of the characteristics of his rising sign I seem to share due to other aspects in my chart

For astrology, I don't really like looking at just one aspect. I think its better if we could get a whole reading in conjunction with everything else, basically, an interpreter to translate what it all means together. I'd do more reading around. Although maybe getting one for Ta3, J!n JayK would be a good idea since they are the ones who had major roles in the mv. Not sure about rising signs cos it's rumored birth times. Then again, not sure if I trust anyone to do it either cos of "cold readings".

 

[Secret149]

If I could give this more likes, I would! What an amazing analysis. I hope you do more.

About one of the boys potentially being hurt from a fan, a psychic mentioned that she seen that Tae was going to be badly injured from an obsessive fan and that he needs to be very careful. It will cause a huge demand for change to protect idols better in Korea because of this.
The fact that he's dressed similar to John Lennon who was murdered from one make's this all the more chilling.

I notice that The Eight from 17 also has a similar style now.

 

[blissfate]

For astrology, I don't really like looking at just one aspect. I think its better if we could get a whole reading in conjunction with everything else, basically, an interpreter to translate what it all means together. I'd do more reading around. Although maybe getting one for Ta3, J!n JayK would be a good idea since they are the ones who had major roles in the mv. Not sure about rising signs cos it's rumored birth times. Then again, not sure if I trust anyone to do it either cos of "cold readings".

Hmm well the person who posted it said that those rising signs seemed to be the most accurate
I'm pretty sure u can easily put their birthdays into a calculator and possibly put in the rising signs and see if it seems accurate

So then again it might not be accurate based off just risings especially since my rising is in libra and i have similar characteristics to namjoon's rising..
Soooo you're right because it depends on how you put it because other aspects can override: like voice, appearance, personality, etc

 

[WOKE_ARMY]

And why do you think you know better than me how industry works?
Only because we disagree?

Only because you see an animal print and a V sign you are sure they sold souls and me searching for more proves make me naive?
I'm being realistic here, BTS may even be ready to sell whatever they had( but not going to any parties), body and souls but you think elite gives success that easely?
What if for them their souls has no value at all?

Have you ever thought that the people WILLING to sell their souls for success are more than the effective demands from the elites?

I already explained that if they sold anything you will see a change, you will see them topping the charts, no excuse about "b..but...they are korean...", no excuse, if elite chose them they reach at least top10.

You have to remember what the elite really wants. The main goal is to brainwash the masses and make them to worship the idols and make people astray, lead them far away from the remembrance of God. Remember New World Order? One religion? One government? They don’t care about selling your soul for fangirls or whatnot. The most important thing for the elites is , the more joins, the merrier. With BT@S success, it’s more than enough. Look at army, look at us before we came to this forum. I take myself as an example, I knew them less than a month and already felt miserable under their musical spells. I’ve never in my life felt that way after stanning a group and listening to them. Look at army’s craziness, how fanatics they can be and their obsessions with the boys. Aren’t those reasons enough for the elite to pick them? Heck yes! Enough to make people go crazy and worship them which is the goal, and they reached the goal already. May God protect us all.

 

[Christina D.]

You have to remember what the elite really wants. The main goal is to brainwash the masses and make them to worship the idols and make people astray, lead them far away from the remembrance of God. Remember New World Order? One religion? One government? They don’t care about selling your soul for fangirls or whatnot. The most important thing for the elites is , the more joins, the merrier. With BT@S success, it’s more than enough. Look at army, look at us before we came to this forum. I take myself as an example, I knew them less than a month and already felt miserable under their musical spells. I’ve never in my life felt that way after stanning a group and listening to them. Look at army’s craziness, how fanatics they can be and their obsessions with the boys. Aren’t those reasons enough for the elite to pick them? Heck yes! Enough to make people go crazy and worship them which is the goal, and they reached the goal already. May God protect us all.

Bravo, you literally summed up everything that is most likely in motion right now. I also believe that listening to their music and being awake, you see the bigger picture of how the context relates to their state in real life, compared to listening and interpreting while being narrow-minded like 95% of armys. You can appreciate the message of the song and realize that there's more to it than meets the eye, but those who blindly follow their 'idols' will be stuck inside this small space where they have tunnel vision and won't be able to accept the fact that there is something hidden under the surface of the music and lyrics.