BTS discussion thread

[Chic]

I apologize for generalizing the rate of consumption but I wrote that post with a bit of emotion.

I advice you to slowly step away from music, movies etc. Especially media from well known/popular figures.
Don't watch movies in cinemas as the enviroment of a cinema makes indoctrination far easier (as it is designed to) as in a room with a lot of distractions and where you could just stop the movie. Same goes for bars and especially clubs.

I think that you should NOT go to the concert because the risk of you falling back is too great either be it at the influence of enviromental psychology and ultra-low-em-frequency brainwave manipulation, too much nostalgia or spellcasting. If you for some reason insist on going to the concert at least pray to God that he protects you going there.


They likely know the outcome but dont want to and lie to themselves.

Thank you for your concern, but you have to give me some credit. I understand you're doing the Lord's will in giving warning and hoping those who read will heed it. I can only speak for myself in response to your post.

I assure you my soul/spirit is fine and I am in no danger or under influence thanks to the God I serve and the Holy Spirit who gives me all knowledge. I have discernment, so I know what i can and can't handle. Don't assume that I listen to their music as much as you probably think I do just because I said I am a fan. Not everyone is on the same learning level.

It's the people who idolize them to the point of worship you should direct your post to. The ones who are most likely not even posting here to seek information or who only see they can do no wrong. There lies the danger.

 

[Chic]

I'm still a fan of theirs as well. I do like them as individuals for the most part, . While I wish them success, I do worry sometimes at what cost.

I kinda get the feeling that their US success will be shortlived. Hate to say, Asians dont really succeed but only for a season here. If Asian-American artists/actors don't have longevity in the US, I'm sure a complete Korean boy band with only one fluent speaker won't either.

It's a wait and see at this point.

 

[Maggieca]

I kinda get the feeling that their US success will be shortlived. Hate to say, Asians dont really succeed but only for a season here. If Asian-American artists/actors don't have longevity in the US, I'm sure a complete Korean boy band with only one fluent speaker will.

It's a wait and see at this point.

I don't know if they will have longevity but I think this year their succes will grow in the US
There were rumors about them having collaborations with US artists and they have been invited to the BBMAs again, not to mention them appearing on ellen and other important tv shows

I was watching this video the other day (the first 10 minutes the guy talks about it)

He says that to reach certain level you have to do bigger sacrifices.
So I think about BTS and I wonder how their reached this level of success that no other kpop group had before in america? How did they do it coming from a small company with no influence in the media? They did it with the power of their fandom alone?
For me there is something more here, something we don't know. After their success grew some members started to look more and more sad and for me this is no coincidence

 

[Chic]

So I think about BTS and I wonder how their reached this level of success that no other kpop group had before in america? How did they do it coming from a small company with no influence in the media? They did it with the power of their fandom alone?
For me there is something more here, something we don't know. After their success grew some members started to look more and more sad and for me this is no coincidence

at the last part. It's pretty evident in Jimin and Tae especially.

What if BH had a bigger "entity" backing them? The narrative is that they are a smaller company who managed to surpass the big 3, but just what if there is more to it than that like you said?

Didn't they sign up with Sony after they won their BBMA last year? We all know about the dealings with Sony.

Anyway, I've always heard about Jhope's Vlive but never saw it.

 

[Maggieca]

at the last part. It's pretty evident in Jimin and Tae especially.

What if BH had a bigger "entity" backing them? The narrative is that they are a smaller company who managed to surpass the big 3, but just what if there is more to it than that like you said?

Didn't they sign up with Sony after they won their BBMA last year? We all know about the dealings with Sony.

Anyway, I've always heard about Jhope's Vlive but never saw it.

Considering their concept was carefully planned since the begginging and you can see the name of their future songs and even "the glitch" in their debut video I asssume BigHit knew the group would last for a long time
They could have some entity backing them and that's why they knew this was a long term project since the beggining

But them having so many oprtunities in the US is suspicious to me because to enter that hollywood crowd you have to be in some deep stuff
I cant see a celebrity atending the BBMAs or going to Ellen TV show and believe their are innocent. For me when you reach that level you already know what's happening and what agendas they expect you to promote

 

[HappyAlfredo]

I have a feeling this album will be their peak in popularity. They'll probably get #1 billaboard and a collab with a popular artist, maybe a few more American award shows but I can't see it getting higher than that. Unless they start to promote the rapline as solo artists, which I could see them doing

 

[Maggieca]

I have a feeling this album will be their peak in popularity. They'll probably get #1 billaboard and a collab with a popular artist, maybe a few more American award shows but I can't see it getting higher than that. Unless they start to promote the rapline as solo artists, which I could see them doing

I believe this year they will get a hit song, maybe a collaboration with a popular artist

but longevity is hard for a boyband, besides they are korean and have to go to the army wich means years of hiatus unless they all enlist together

 

[catalenaah]

I agree about this, i think he is being used and that's why his eyes looks so sad.
Watching his latest vlive I noticed one minute he was acting like a child and the other minute he was licking his lips and acting all seductive to the camera. It was confusing and I got a weird feeling watching him

And if you look at the MAMA performance from 2014 and you compare that Jimin to the Jimin we see now is like he is a different person
I understand he can mature but it was the oposite with him. Now that he is older he acts more like a child, all soft and innocent it's like he aged backwards

did you guys notice that in Burn the stage he keeps talking about alcohol? I saw fans making jokes about this on twitter but for me this is strange. seems like he drinks a lot and it's thinking about getting drunk all the time. Maybe trying to escape his reality? I don't know

Could it possibly be due to his mental state not maturing. What I mean is he was training since very young and we do not know if his parents sold him out since younger for money etc... and since he’s been in the spotlight since very young and hasn’t had a chance to be a “teenager” and do normal thinks kids do maybe he’s stuck between a teenager mentality but conflicted since age wise he’s an adult now. (Of course that could be said for any of the members) just my 2 cents

 

[the world is a stage]

The reason I'm worried about Jin (Part 4)

Analyzing all of Bts songs, one comes to the conclusion that Tae personifies evil and Jin the good, but dies/sacrificed himself.
Analyzing bts songs backwards, horrifyingly you get the same result.

BTS songs backwards

Notice how all the bts songs backwards include the word "Ghost" (Spring Day, Stigma, BST) somewhere in them but "Awake" doesn't because Jin IS THE GHOST.
The others are saddened and afraid of him and wish he'd just move on. And "Awake" is Jin's POV.

Awake backwards


"So slow...I need them." - Jin wants them to join him now.

"How long...Far to see" - How long does he have to wait until they join him?

"Hurt us, not there again, hurt us" "For them" - Jin's delusional thoughts. He thinks that the members WANT Jin to hurt them and drive them to insanity and death. He thinks they want to join him in the afterlife just like he does, but a part of him hears their true thoughts. He's shifting between his own thoughts (hurt us) and what the members are REALLY saying (not there again...AKA stop hurting us).

He's saying that even though he's passed away he still needs the members. He still wants to see them...still wants to hug them, even though he himself has "no breath" (AKA is dead). So even though his intentions of seeing his friends might seem pure, in the end it means that he also wants them dead. He wants them to join him. His love for his friends have driven him to evil.

House of Cards backwards


In "Cypher part 3" RM says in korean "oh shit play the beat backwards" and that's probably referring to "house of cards".
Plus in "I need u" Jin was seen holding flower petals and "putting them down" and also had a flower being projected on to his shoulders resmebaling them having memories of him.

In "Run" Tae was seen knocking down a "house of cards" that Jin made.

And Jin and V sing in "House of cards" with Jimin and Jungkook, I think it was V said "we should have known he would do this" which would lead not to him being killed but committing suicide.

1 "its cold out" that was written on the wall in fire
2 "hero" was Jin there hero?
3 "asthma" not being able to breath suffocating
4 "anybody still there" are they alone? No one's actually listening
5 "take a hint" lately there concept has been depressing
6 "our house" a place of comfort where u and ur family stay...somethings going wrong maybe
7 "he's just memories" Jin died he's no longer there
8 "not my ghost" still feeling a Jin vibe..
9 "we blew it" they had a chance to stop Jin they knew what was happening and Jin knew what he was gonna do also might be connected to school love affair. Jin possible killed himself because of the girl leaving him?
10 "I won't be the one..." hobi won't be the one to what? take responsibility of jins death?
12 "have mercy" I heard it in the back ground which was repeated in the save me mv several times backwords
13 "who's there? anyone there still?" seems like seokjin trying to call out for help, and is trying to catch the other members attention, but no one answers because they can't see him anymore. he's a soul now. Overall.

Play from 0:50 - 01:04
Its a story by Tae about Jin(He) :

my addition words

Tae: Hero, he was, he was a hero

but Him~He left us

What if he was still alive

~sad high not by Jimin ;((~

you're not my ghost (I think they meant by ghost is that he is not family anymore/ they are depressed to accept he is dead)

Asthma which means hard to breathe linking to drowning or asthma= can't breathe = Jin...in I need you Japanese version Jin was surrounded by flamed lilies. in Japan the lilies (flower) will give off a suffocating scent to leave someone breathless meaning they can't breathe.......Jin committed suicide

Hush
You're the one that I...cried for

Jin: Who's there?

There's no answer ( Jimin and Tae didnt answer Jin as Jin is not there with them.

Jimin to Tae: He is just, MEMORIES

Jin(again): Who's there?

There's no answer (Jimin and Tae accepting he is dead and not thinking or hearing him anymorsl)


The interesting thing is that V in "House of Cards", "Stigma" and also in "Singularity" says the word "Hero" (referring to Jin).

SINGULARITY - Tear backwards

(!Not my backwards lyrics!)
A lot of gibberish in this song, the person picked up as much as he could


He stand there hero why can I stop
Oh, Not us oh (stop) our stigma's story risk stop
(Oooh no~)
He stand back you slam me I missed it all

Hard not us, no heros to me and stop
I'm unheard in a room murder that's not her
I'm evil he it's not that's not nick who gray her
I'm it's snowing hurts, hot civil(?) inside of let me be
I missed our house (hyyh house??) and eomma bet us through her

(Mmhmn)

Hey

No it's not in young what's happening black go run
I stay go somewhere my car I stay missing
Hey, nor we run my ghost.
oh ooh we must need us happen

And I that's not he ruined it all, so mad
I my shadow and the I inhale all so work
Aah, He knew what's ha help us all and I wish where are you?
I need heros cause he woke him up, who's fault is
We're all sick

Oh stay long~, Hold on
I swear you lose some again
I miss her, hero (hello?) a smirk
How I woke it's evil

There's is no leech there hey missing you there he's missing all
What time murder who

Hero, sacrifice, murder, sin (uHmm LISTEN-)
Hey, go sleep master there's no men
Heros explanation he my room

Jin and white flowers


Maybe I'm just crazy, but either I see Jin in connection with the "Smeraldo flower" or with white flowers. In my last post I already explained the meaning of white flowers in Asia.

Why You Don’t Bring White Flowers to a Wedding in Asian Cultures
In the West, wedding halls are bedecked with bursts of white roses and similar flowers. However, bringing white flowers to a Chinese or Taiwanese wedding could get you taken off the guest list for future occasions. Any white blossom is only appropriate for funerals in Asian cultures because the color is associated with death. It’s unlucky to give someone white flowers for other occasions, so bringing the wrong bouquet could ruin the whole mood of the event. Make sure you bring white gifts for a funeral and red blossoms for a wedding.

White Flowers with Literal Links to Death
A lovely white orchid won’t hurt you, but there are plenty of flowers with bright blossoms that literally represent death because they could kill you. The white oleander tops the list with its toxic flowers and leaves, but it’s still commonly planted as a decorative shrub because of the beautiful blossoms.


The flowers in the pictures above are very similar to this one. Is anyone here familiar with flowers and can tell me if I'm right?

Worrying visions

In the last few months, I've noticed a lot of comments on the internet talking about visions and a bts member dying.
When I first watched a bts interviews a few months ago, my dad mentioned something similar (but I don't want to go into it too much). Interestingly, this girl has similar visions. I found her comment under a youtube video (I censored her name).



!!Here are my assumptions that are in no way facts! I emphasize this to avoid unnecessary discussions!!

Let's assume that Jin is actually going to be sacrificed, which time will be best for that?
As we know, the occultist love to play with numerology and astrology when it comes to sacrifices.



If I'm not mistaken JK was the one who posted this picture on twitter. Look at the numbers 20219.

20219= Ilsan's geo number or smth.
'Ilsan, the place I want to be buried even when I die' Rm part in Ma City

I don't know, but maybe these numbers have a hidden meaning?
For me it looks like a date? February 19, 2020 (backwards)

The year 2020 will be a very special year for the elite. Why? Let me explain it to you.

The elite love to work with astrology, it belongs to the "hidden knowledge".

Before you read the next text, you have to know that all zodiac signs have a ruling planet.
Capricorn = Saturn (Tae)
Sagittarius = Jupiter (Jin)

Now listen carefully to what this woman in the video is saying.

"The reason why I include some Information from 2019 and 2020 is because there is a very big line up happening in 2020 with Saturn (capricorns planet) and Pluto coupled together in Capricorn and the ruling planet Jupiter (Sagittarius' planet) will also joim them in 2020. Jupiter expends whatever it touches and Mars will also join them in February and March and with Saturn and Pluto coupled together like this forum all of 2020 they're going to initiate a new economic cycle. And we're building towards that right now. We're already seing the beginning of this with Saturn and Capricorn and you will know what I'm talking about when you get to January 2018, because the Capricorn New Moon has six planets in Capricorn, Sun and the Moon, Mercury and Venus and Saturn and Pluto (but not Jupiter!!)

Now watch this video:

"2020 is going to be the beginning of a new era. This is when we get a line up of powerful planets all in the sign of Capricorn. And as many of you know, since 2008 Pluto went into Capricorn, Jupiter was in Capricorn in 2008 and this was the beginning of the global financial crisis, structures changing. In 2020 we've got Jupiter again coming in to Capricorn. But not only that, in 2020 we've got all kind of energies in Capricorn, which to me indicates we're going to have new structures, new systems."

I have also mentiooned that "Capricorn" is associated with the Baphomet.

"The name 'Capricorn' comes from the Latin caper ('goat') and cornu ('horn') - literally 'the Goat's horn.
It is not by chance that the Devil—Satan is represented by a goat-which is Capricorn. All ancient orgies of debauchery were celebrated during Saturnalia—in the month of Capricorn"

Tarot Astrology: Capricorn and the Devil

The Devil is the card of Capricorn, the Sea Goat, and to understand the Devil card we must look at the qualities and associations of the sign of Capricorn. Capricorn is ruled by Saturn, the planet of limitations and time; which in the Tarot is represented by the Universe or World card. This adds a level of discipline to sea-goats that, if encouraged, can bring great riches in whatever endeavor the Capricorn takes. The planet Saturn grants Capricorns an appreciation of limitation and an inherent understanding of using limitations to empower their life. Also, the planet Mars is exalted in Capricorn, meaning that it expresses its most beneficial qualities. The card of Mars is the Tower. We must take all of these qualities into consideration when we consider the symbolism of the Devil card. In this manner, we start to see the patterns and deeper wisdom held within the Tarot.
Source:
https://www.californiapsychics.com/blog/astrology-numerology/tarot-astrology-capricorn-and-the-devil.html

Capricorn/saturn in alchemy and Masonry
as it reprisents the Earth/Saturn is the controller of the root chakra in you.One must rise from Hell/earth/lower plane into God/Sun/heaven/your crown chakra. Saturn/Capricorn is Lord of this Earth.

Maybe this is why Jin and Tae are connected in the bts videos? You decide.

In 2020, Jin will be 27 years old. Interesting ... Jonghyun was also 27 when he died. The number 27 is very popular for sacrifices (Club 27)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

My fear is that Jin will be sacrificed in 2020 for whatever evil reason and then let it appear as a suicide or accident. I know this sounds crazy, but this is what my feeling is telling me. And again I hope I'm wrong and nothing is going to happen to him.

 

[catalenaah]

Taehyung is said to be the one who parties the most according to the members. Whether he drinks while partying is another thing since you don't have to consume alcohol to have a good time and socialize.

And the member that made a mistake is said to be Suga. People speculate it was that time he hurt his ear and had to go in for surgery which took him out of all the schedules for the end of the year.

You don’t have to drink (there’s tons of drugs which celebs are exposed to)

 

[Maggieca]

Could it possibly be due to his mental state not maturing. What I mean is he was training since very young and we do not know if his parents sold him out since younger for money etc... and since he’s been in the spotlight since very young and hasn’t had a chance to be a “teenager” and do normal thinks kids do maybe he’s stuck between a teenager mentality but conflicted since age wise he’s an adult now. (Of course that could be said for any of the members) just my 2 cents

yeah I think it could be, jungkook said he feels like he stopped growing mentally since he was 15 years old because that was the time he became a trainee

But what's strange with Jimin is that when he debuted (I believe he was 17 years old) he didn't act like a child at all
Now he has this childish soft aura about him that he didn't have when he was younger so it's confusing

 

[saintroserosalia]

The reason I'm worried about Jin (Part 4)
Worrying visions
In the last few months, I've noticed a lot of comments on the internet talking about visions and a bts member dying.
When I first watched a bts interviews a few months ago, my dad mentioned something similar (but I don't want to go into it too much). Interestingly, this girl has similar visions. I found her comment under a youtube video (I censored her name).

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!!Here are my assumptions that are in no way facts! I emphasize this to avoid unnecessary discussions!!

Let's assume that Jin is actually going to be sacrificed, which time will be best for that?
As we know, the occultist love to play with numerology and astrology when it comes to sacrifices.

If I'm not mistaken JK was the one who posted this picture on twitter. Look at the numbers 20219.

20219= Ilsan's geo number or smth.
'Ilsan, the place I want to be buried even when I die' Rm part in Ma City

I don't know, but maybe these numbers have a hidden meaning?
For me it looks like a date? February 19, 2020 (backwards)

The year 2020 will be a very special year for the elite. Why? Let me explain it to you.

The elite love to work with astrology, it belongs to the "hidden knowledge".

Before you read the next text, you have to know that all zodiac signs have a ruling planet.
Capricorn = Saturn (Tae)
Sagittarius = Jupiter (Jin)

Now listen carefully to what this woman in the video is saying.

"The reason why I include some Information from 2019 and 2020 is because there is a very big line up happening in 2020 with Saturn (capricorns planet) and Pluto coupled together in Capricorn and the ruling planet Jupiter (Sagittarius' planet) will also joim them in 2020. Jupiter expends whatever it touches and Mars will also join them in February and March and with Saturn and Pluto coupled together like this forum all of 2020 they're going to initiate a new economic cycle. And we're building towards that right now. We're already seing the beginning of this with Saturn and Capricorn and you will know what I'm talking about when you get to January 2018, because the Capricorn New Moon has six planets in Capricorn, Sun and the Moon, Mercury and Venus and Saturn and Pluto (but not Jupiter!!)

Now watch this video:

"2020 is going to be the beginning of a new era. This is when we get a line up of powerful planets all in the sign of Capricorn. And as many of you know, since 2008 Pluto went into Capricorn, Jupiter was in Capricorn in 2008 and this was the beginning of the global financial crisis, structures changing. In 2020 we've got Jupiter again coming in to Capricorn. But not only that, in 2020 we've got all kind of energies in Capricorn, which to me indicates we're going to have new structures, new systems."

I have also mentiooned that "Capricorn" is associated with the Baphomet.

"The name 'Capricorn' comes from the Latin caper ('goat') and cornu ('horn') - literally 'the Goat's horn.
It is not by chance that the Devil—Satan is represented by a goat-which is Capricorn. All ancient orgies of debauchery were celebrated during Saturnalia—in the month of Capricorn"

Maybe this is why Jin and Tae are connected in the bts videos? You decide.

In 2020, Jin will be 27 years old. Interesting ... Jonghyun was also 27 when he died.

My fear is that Jin will be sacrificed in 2020 for whatever evil reason and then let it appear as a suicide or accident. I know this sounds crazy, but this is what my feeling is telling me. And again I hope I'm wrong and nothing is going to happen to him.

I hope you're wrong too. All of this is just scary........
Why must a member be sacrificed for the sake of others? Why?
Come to think of it, it's no coincidence why The Ones Who Walk Away From Omelas was emphasized so much during Spring Day era....

 

[Chic]

My fear is that Jin will be sacrificed in 2020 for whatever evil reason and then let it appear as a suicide or accident. I know this sounds crazy, but this is what my feeling is telling me. And again I hope I'm wrong and nothing is going to happen to him.

If true, if a member will be sacrificed, this is part of the reason of why I said there is no way they know the complete consequences of their choice. They're only focused on the present be it aiding in the agenda, or whatever you want to call it, and living the lavish life as the result. They do not know they will be damned in the end. Even if they do know, they only received part of the cost for willingly participating. They haven't paid their debt in full yet, which is eternal.

While it's on my mind to ask, I was thinking.. what do you think the curses and spells are?

OAN: we know why but still I ask why would they go with a concept like depression and hopelessness? I keep thinking about how many young fans they have! This could gravely impact them! I dont want to listen to depressing music. Why not make music that will uplift the listener? I didn't buy Her and by the looks of it I wont be buying this one either. I like their older stuff anyway.
They're romanticizing suffering. That I do not like.

 

[HappyAlfredo]

If true, if a member will be sacrificed, this is part of the reason of why I said there is no way they know the complete consequences of their choice. They're only focused on the present be it aiding in the agenda, or whatever you want to call it, and living the lavish life as the result. They do not know they will be damned in the end. Even if they do know, they only received part of the cost for willingly participating. They haven't paid their debt in full yet, which is eternal.

While it's on my mind to ask, I was thinking.. what do you think the curses and spells are?

OAN: we know why but still I ask why would they go with a concept like depression and hopelessness? I keep thinking about how many young fans they have! This could gravely impact them! I dont want to listen to depressing music. Why not make music that will uplift the listener? I didn't buy Her and by the looks of it I wont be buying this one either. I like their older stuff anyway.

If Jin knows he is going to be sacrificed one day, he would try to leave, right? He either doesn't know or is brainwashed.

 

[Maggieca]

This Jin theory is interesting
Reminds me of the time RM and Jimin were threatened in America and a person said they were going to shoot them on stage

Now that the comeback is close it looks like they are targeting jimin again, armys received this message today and they are reporting it to bighit

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/994578107318308864

Last year when he was targeted fans noticed than him and Jin were using the exact same clothes:

there was speculation that they were doing this to confuse the person who wanted to shoot jimin but this is absurd because it means they were putting Jin in danger too?

Now I have to wonder if all those threats are real or are just part of predictive programming, getting the fans ready for one of them (probably Jin) being sacrificed

 

[saintroserosalia]

If Jin knows he is going to be sacrificed one day, he would try to leave, right? He either doesn't know or is brainwashed.

It is most likely that he doesn't know. Nobody wants a job, even if it's lucrative, that will eventually get them killed, to be honest :'(

 

[Chic]

If Jin knows he is going to be sacrificed one day, he would try to leave, right? He either doesn't know or is brainwashed.

Could be. Or he thinks it is part of the concept and the storytelling.

Fans aren't the only ones who are deceived.

 

[HappyAlfredo]

Could be. Or he thinks it is part of the concept and the storytelling.

Fans aren't the only ones who are deceived.

But wouldn't this also make the group/Company look suspicious? If all your concepts tie around a member dying and that member actually dies.. there's no way even Armys wouldn't notice that.

 

[MochiAmour]

The reason I'm worried about Jin (Part 4)

Analyzing all of Bts songs, one comes to the conclusion that Tae personifies evil and Jin the good, but dies/sacrificed himself.
Analyzing bts songs backwards, horrifyingly you get the same result.

BTS songs backwards

Notice how all the bts songs backwards include the word "Ghost" (Spring Day, Stigma, BST) somewhere in them but "Awake" doesn't because Jin IS THE GHOST.
The others are saddened and afraid of him and wish he'd just move on. And "Awake" is Jin's POV.

Awake backwards
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"So slow...I need them." - They're taking too long to die. Jin wants them to join him now.

"How long...Far to see" - How long does he have to wait until they join him?

"Hurt us, not there again, hurt us" "For them" - Jin's delusional thoughts. He thinks that the members WANT Jin to hurt them and drive them to insanity and death. He thinks they want to join him in the afterlife just like he does, but a part of him hears their true thoughts. He's shifting between his own thoughts (hurt us) and what the members are REALLY saying (not there again...AKA stop hurting us).

He's saying that even though he's passed away he still needs the members. He still wants to see them...still wants to hug them, even though he himself has "no breath" (AKA is dead). So even though his intentions of seeing his friends might seem pure, in the end it means that he also wants them dead. He wants them to join him. His love for his friends have driven him to evil.

House of Cards backwards
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In "Cypher part 3" RM says in korean "oh shit play the beat backwards" and that's probably referring to "house of cards".
Plus in "I need u" Jin was seen holding flower petals and "putting them down" and also had a flower being projected on to his shoulders resmebaling them having memories of him.

In "Run" Tae was seen knocking down a "house of cards" that Jin made.

And Jin and V sing in "House of cards" with Jimin and Jungkook, I think it was V said "we should have known he would do I this" which would lead not to him being killed but committing suicide.

1 "its cold out" that was written on the wall in fire
2 "hero" was Jin there hero
3 "asthma" not being able to breath suffocating
4 "anybody still there" are they alone no one's actually listening
5 "take a hint" lately there concept has been depressing
6 "our house" a place of comfort where u and ur family stay...somethings going wrong maybe
7 "he's just memories" Jin he died he's no longer there
8 "not my ghost" still feeling a Jin vibe..
9 "we blew it" they had a chance to stop Jin they knew what was happening and Jin knew what he was gonna do also might be connected to school love affair Jin possible killed himself because of the girl leaving him?
10 "I won't be the one..." hobi won't be the one to what? take responsibility of jins death?
12 "have mercy" I heard it in the back ground which was repeated in the save me mv several times backwords
13 "who's there? anyone there still?" seems like seokjin trying to call out for help, and is trying to catch the other members attention, but no one answers because they can't see him anymore. he's a soul now.overall.

Play from 0:50 - 01:04
Its a story by Tae about Jin(He) :

my addition words

Tae: Hero, he was, he was a hero

but Him~He left us

What if he was still alive

~sad high not by Jimin ;((~

you're not my ghost (I think they meant by ghost is that he is not family anymore/ they are depressed to accept he is dead)

Asthma which means hard to breathe linking to drowning or asthma= can't breathe = Jin...in I need you Japanese version Jin was surrounded by flamed lilies. in Japan the lilies (flower) will give off a suffocating scent to leave someone breathless meaning they can't breathe.......Jin committed suicide

Hush
You're the one that I...cried for

Jin: Who's there?

There's no answer ( Jimin and Tae didnt answer Jin as Jin is not there wif them and...

Jimin to Tae: He is just, MEMORIES

Jin(again):Who's there?

There's no answer (Jimin and Tae accepting he is dead and not thinking or hearing him anymorsl)


The interesting thing is that V in "House of Cards", "Stigma" and also in "Singularity" says the word "Hero" (referring to Jin).

SINGULARITY - Tear backwards
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(!Not my lyrics!)
A lot of gibberish in this song, the person picked up as much as he could


He stand there hero why can I stop
Oh, Not us oh (stop) our stigma's story risk stop
(Oooh no~)
He stand back you slam me I missed it all

Hard not us, no heros to me and stop
I'm unheard in a room murder that's not her
I'm evil he it's not that's not nick who gray her
I'm it's snowing hurts, hot civil(?) inside of let me be
I missed our house (hyyh house??) and eomma bet us through her

(Mmhmn)

Hey

No it's not in young what's happening black go run
I stay go somewhere my car I stay missing
Hey, nor we run my ghost.
oh ooh we must need us happen

And I that's not he ruined it all, so mad
I my shadow and the I inhale all so work
Aah, He knew what's ha help us all and I wish where are you?
I need heros cause he woke him up, who's fault is
We're all sick

Oh stay long~, Hold on
I swear you lose some again
I miss her, hero (hello?) a smirk
How I woke it's evil

There's is no leech there hey missing you there he's missing all
What time murder who

Hero, sacrifice, murder, sin (uHmm LISTEN-)
Hey, go sleep master there's no men
Heros explanation he my room

Jin and white flowers
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Maybe I just crazy, but either I see Jin in connection with the "Smeraldo flower" or with white flowers. In my last post I already explained the meaning of white flowers in Asia.

Why You Don’t Bring White Flowers to a Wedding in Asian Cultures
In the West, wedding halls are bedecked with bursts of white roses and similar flowers. However, bringing white flowers to a Chinese or Taiwanese wedding could get you taken off the guest list for future occasions. Any white blossom is only appropriate for funerals in Asian cultures because the color is associated with death. It’s unlucky to give someone white flowers for other occasions, so bringing the wrong bouquet could ruin the whole mood of the event. Make sure you bring white gifts for a funeral and red blossoms for a wedding.

White Flowers with Literal Links to Death
A lovely white orchid won’t hurt you, but there are plenty of flowers with bright blossoms that literally represent death because they could kill you. The white oleander tops the list with its toxic flowers and leaves, but it’s still commonly planted as a decorative shrub because of the beautiful blossoms.

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The flowers in the pictures above are very similar to this one. Is anyone here familiar with flowers and can tell me if I'm right?

Worrying visions

In the last few months, I've noticed a lot of comments on the internet talking about visions and a bts member dying.
When I first watched a bts interviews a few months ago, my dad mentioned something similar (but I don't want to go into it too much). Interestingly, this girl has similar visions. I found her comment under a youtube video (I censored her name).

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!!Here are my assumptions that are in no way facts! I emphasize this to avoid unnecessary discussions!!

Let's assume that Jin is actually going to be sacrificed, which time will be best for that?
As we know, the occultist love to play with numerology and astrology when it comes to sacrifices.

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If I'm not mistaken JK was the one who posted this picture on twitter. Look at the numbers 20219.

20219= Ilsan's geo number or smth.
'Ilsan, the place I want to be buried even when I die' Rm part in Ma City

I don't know, but maybe these numbers have a hidden meaning?
For me it looks like a date? February 19, 2020 (backwards)

The year 2020 will be a very special year for the elite. Why? Let me explain it to you.

The elite love to work with astrology, it belongs to the "hidden knowledge".

Before you read the next text, you have to know that all zodiac signs have a ruling planet.
Capricorn = Saturn (Tae)
Sagittarius = Jupiter (Jin)

Now listen carefully to what this woman in the video is saying.

"The reason why I include some Information from 2019 and 2020 is because there is a very big line up happening in 2020 with Saturn (capricorns planet) and Pluto coupled together in Capricorn and the ruling planet Jupiter (Sagittarius' planet) will also joim them in 2020. Jupiter expends whatever it touches and Mars will also join them in February and March and with Saturn and Pluto coupled together like this forum all of 2020 they're going to initiate a new economic cycle. And we're building towards that right now. We're already seing the beginning of this with Saturn and Capricorn and you will know what I'm talking about when you get to January 2018, because the Capricorn New Moon has six planets in Capricorn, Sun and the Moon, Mercury and Venus and Saturn and Pluto (but not Jupiter!!)

Now watch this video:

"2020 is going to be the beginning of a new era. This is when we get a line up of powerful planets all in the sign of Capricorn. And as many of you know, since 2008 Pluto went into Capricorn, Jupiter was in Capricorn in 2008 and this was the beginning of the global financial crisis, structures changing. In 2020 we've got Jupiter again coming in to Capricorn. But not only that, in 2020 we've got all kind of energies in Capricorn, which to me indicates we're going to have new structures, new systems."

I have also mentiooned that "Capricorn" is associated with the Baphomet.

"The name 'Capricorn' comes from the Latin caper ('goat') and cornu ('horn') - literally 'the Goat's horn.
It is not by chance that the Devil—Satan is represented by a goat-which is Capricorn. All ancient orgies of debauchery were celebrated during Saturnalia—in the month of Capricorn"

Tarot Astrology: Capricorn and the Devil

The Devil is the card of Capricorn, the Sea Goat, and to understand the Devil card we must look at the qualities and associations of the sign of Capricorn. Capricorn is ruled by Saturn, the planet of limitations and time; which in the Tarot is represented by the Universe or World card. This adds a level of discipline to sea-goats that, if encouraged, can bring great riches in whatever endeavor the Capricorn takes. The planet Saturn grants Capricorns an appreciation of limitation and an inherent understanding of using limitations to empower their life. Also, the planet Mars is exalted in Capricorn, meaning that it expresses its most beneficial qualities. The card of Mars is the Tower. We must take all of these qualities into consideration when we consider the symbolism of the Devil card. In this manner, we start to see the patterns and deeper wisdom held within the Tarot.
Source:
https://www.californiapsychics.com/blog/astrology-numerology/tarot-astrology-capricorn-and-the-devil.html

Capricorn/saturn in alchemy and Masonry
as it reprisents the Earth/Saturn is the controller of the root chakra in you.One must rise from Hell/earth/lower plane into God/Sun/heaven/your crown chakra. Saturn/Capricorn is Lord of this Earth.

Maybe this is why Jin and Tae are connected in the bts videos? You decide.

In 2020, Jin will be 27 years old. Interesting ... Jonghyun was also 27 when he died. The number 27 is very popular for sacrifices (Club 27)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_Club

My fear is that Jin will be sacrificed in 2020 for whatever evil reason and then let it appear as a suicide or accident. I know this sounds crazy, but this is what my feeling is telling me. And again I hope I'm wrong and nothing is going to happen to him.

Around the age of 27-28, natural change within the brain chemistry happens which is why so many mk-ultra victims experience glitches and have their infamous breakdowns. I think there's a very good chance that Jin will experience this come 2020. It's all adding up and I'm worried for him.

 

[MochiAmour]

I agree about this, i think he is being used and that's why his eyes looks so sad.
Watching his latest vlive I noticed one minute he was acting like a child and the other minute he was licking his lips and acting all seductive to the camera. It was confusing and I got a weird feeling watching him

If you notice throughout his Vlive (actually all of them), he tends to look at someone behind the camera every now and then. It's known staff are always present to monitor their broadcasts. I tend to notice how he often changes his persona once he does this and it happened again during his latest Vlive.

He looked at whoever was behind the camera, then switched to his flirty/seductive alter ego where he started grooming himself (pushing his hair back, adjusting his body etc) to make himself more appealing before sticking his tongue out and touching himself. It was obvious what he was trying to do and he accomplished it judging by how ARMYs talked about it non-stop. Whichever handler was present with him activated his beta-kitten imo. It's quite obvious judging by how timid and quiet he was when he started and then proceeded to get flirtier throughout the more he looked behind the camera.