BTS discussion thread

[the world is a stage]

Wow...that was very interesting thank you! And your English is excellent as usual

Thanks! I'm not a native speaker, but I always try my best.

Yes, other entities aren't all good, in fact I hear stories of bad ones more than the good ones which makes me think that better be careful because once you get involved with them in something, it will not end in a good way.

Exactly. There are also good ones, but they usually don't get in contact with humans (as far as I know).

Thank you for sharing this personal story of yours with us. And there is nothing wrong with your English, you have always explained with clarity.

Thank you very much for reading.

Thank you for sharing your story , I'm so sorry your family had to go through this .your English is great .

Thank you. I normally don't talk about it, because it's too sad and a lot of people don't believe in such things. My family is trying to "break the contract", but it's more difficult than expected.
Once you have sold your soul (or, in my case, the souls of all family members / generations), it will be hard to break away from this contract. In my family everyone is religious but it hasn't changed our case yet.

 

[MochiAmour]

It’s about jk.. I’m certain I was balancing and grounding my chakras and then after that I went to listen to frequencies then I went to put my laptop away.. then I started daydreaming about him and after I had my daydream I got a bunch of visions. They weren’t positive almost demonic-like.. and then all of a sudden I got a vision about someone standing on all fours. KEEP IN MIND WHILE THIS WAS HAPPENING MY THIRD-EYE WAS BUZZING (and no I haven’t opened it yet but this is a clear-indication that I’m using clairvoyance)

Are you comfortable being more detailed? I'm really curious as to what you specifically seen. Especially the "all fours" part because that sounds disturbing. Like, was he demonic or was it his surroundings? And what was the situation like?

Apologies if I'm being invasive, it would just help with clarity on what potentially could be happening. You can PM if you want to keep it off the public board.

 

[Wandering mind]

Thank you. I normally don't talk about it, because it's too sad and a lot of people don't believe in such things. My family is trying to "break the contract", but it's more difficult than expected.
Once you have sold your soul (or, in my case, the souls of all family members / generations), it will be hard to break away from this contract. In my family everyone is religious but it hasn't changed our case yet.

That's really sad the fact that a whole family has to pay for what their ancestors have done. God is great and merciful, I hope you'll get to live your life normally and break the contract as soon as possible and in a good way that won't harm more members of your family. May God protect and bless you.

 

[MochiAmour]

they don't have many suggestive pictures now but Jimin was always more sexualized than the others. In their debut song he had to show his abs and in the performance they did at MAMA 2014 jimin had to rip his shirt off and then sing like that while all the other members were fully dressed

BigHit gave him the cute mochi image now but this was the way he acted on concerts back then:

So yeah sex sells. And even if armys like to pretend Bighit is different, it's clear they have being sexualizing jimin since he was a minor and they are still doing it now

It's weird why it's always him too. His parents seem to do it as well judging by how his father had a picture of him without his shirt on display in the cafe he used to own that had an Alice in Wonderland (mk-ultra) concept as well. I don't even think it was a picture that was face on and posed but rather a candid of his naked back.

Considering he used to cry during practise and rehearsals because he didn't want to do it just makes it all the more off-putting that his parents would still participate in it knowing he's uncomfortable showing his bare skin not to mention his age at the time too. I never understood the shrine either especially in a cafe of all places...it's so out of place for an establishment.

 

[HappyAlfredo]

It's weird why it's always him too. His parents seem to do it as well judging by how his father had a picture of him without his shirt on display in the cafe he used to own that had an Alice in Wonderland (mk-ultra) concept as well. I don't even think it was a picture that was face on and posed but rather a candid of his naked back.

Considering he used to cry during practise and rehearsals because he didn't want to do it just makes it all the more off-putting that his parents would still participate in it knowing he's uncomfortable showing his bare skin not to mention his age at the time too. I never understood the shrine either especially in a cafe of all places...it's so out of place for an establishment.

It bothers me so much how they are made to do things they aren't comfortable with, even uncomfortable to the point of crying. And people praise this company for being so kind and caring to them and giving them freedom..

 

[Wandering mind]

An army found the contact lenses Taehyung was wearing during the photoshoot of the current concept. Any thoughts ? Maybe I am overthinking but it seemed to me like a galaxy and Tae's pupil is forming a black hole.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/994189142136315905

 

[DarkAndWild]

It's weird why it's always him too. His parents seem to do it as well judging by how his father had a picture of him without his shirt on display in the cafe he used to own that had an Alice in Wonderland (mk-ultra) concept as well. I don't even think it was a picture that was face on and posed but rather a candid of his naked back.

Considering he used to cry during practise and rehearsals because he didn't want to do it just makes it all the more off-putting that his parents would still participate in it knowing he's uncomfortable showing his bare skin not to mention his age at the time too. I never understood the shrine either especially in a cafe of all places...it's so out of place for an establishment.

True but not just a pic, multiple pics of a semi nude Jimin,
(Yeah the one u mentioned)

First of all I think it’s super weird you’d have pics of your son all over your cafe I get that they’re proud of him or whatever but just no it’s weird...

 

[Chic]

I will try to explain it to you.
My paternal grandfather was not the first to have a sixth sense aka the third eye. Even his parents and great-grandparents were born with it. But my grandfather made a big mistake: he made a "contract" with a "good" demon. In our culture, we believe that there are two types of demons, vicious and good. My father went into the seductions of this demon because he was poor and saw no other way out.
After that "contract" he became the most popular and respected medicine man of his village. He married and got seven children, my dad is his last child.
It did not take long for the "good" demon to get what my father had promised him.There are many types of "contracts" between humans and demons, and my grandfather had the worst contract. It's called a "generational contract" and it not just affect the one who signed the contract, it affect the whole family and generation. The demon made my grandfather wealthy, but in return demanded his soul and the souls of all persons of his bloodline who also have the third eye. First my grandfather died, then his wife, then his kids. My father and his sister remained. They were the only ones who could not open their third eye (at least not THEN). Years later, my aunt died inexplicably. That must have been the time when her third eye showed for the first time.
My dad is the only survivor of his family. After he had his first child, it died a few days later. Some years ago his second son died.

The "third eye thing" can bring a lot of positive and helpful experiences, but you have to be very careful. To see hidden things is not always great.
There'ssome entities or demons that are not always kind-hearted to you. They can turn your life to a nightmare.

Sorry for my bad English.

Your English is bad?? Didn't even notice! Thought you were a fluent speaker, lol.

Thanks for even sharing your family's story with us! Generational curses are so real!!

 

[MochiAmour]

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First of all I think it’s super weird you’d have pics of your son all over your cafe I get that they’re proud of him or whatever but just no it’s weird...

Wow, I actually never noticed all those other ones! Like, I get you're obviously proud and probably wanting to help promote your son especially during those times, but why was sexualizing him considered as a tactic? Companies are notorious for it but it's to be expected if we're being honest, but for your own parents to get in on it too, just doesn't sit well.

And to have toy figures placed in front of pictures of that context makes it all the more creepy since it just serves as a reminder that he was still practically a child imo.

 

[blissfate]

Someone on all fours?? Do you have an idea of who it might have been?

I just know it was a guy.. probably not helpful in this situation. I'm not sure about it being jk though, but its a possibility since i was daydreaming about him before i had those visions

I am sorry I don't get it, and what it clairvoyance ?

Clairvoyance is the ability to see above normal human perception/or receive imagery (aka psychic ability)

Are you comfortable being more detailed? I'm really curious as to what you specifically seen. Especially the "all fours" part because that sounds disturbing. Like, was he demonic or was it his surroundings? And what was the situation like?

Apologies if I'm being invasive, it would just help with clarity on what potentially could be happening. You can PM if you want to keep it off the public board.

Well i got a bunch of demonic faces first of all, i remember getting an image of someone floating and they looked pale..
for the on all fours part I remember this guy was on a white carpet.. seemed to have a glass or dark brown table in the background
and there was someone in front of them.. whoever it was

All I know is that I don't fuck with demons lol

I'll probably further analyze what i just saw though so if i can figure it out i'll probably post about it

 

[blissfate]

I will try to explain it to you.
My paternal grandfather was not the first to have a sixth sense aka the third eye. Even his parents and great-grandparents were born with it. But my grandfather made a big mistake: he made a "contract" with a "good" demon. In our culture, we believe that there are two types of demons, vicious and good. My father went into the seductions of this demon because he was poor and saw no other way out.
After that "contract" he became the most popular and respected medicine man of his village. He married and got seven children, my dad is his last child.
It did not take long for the "good" demon to get what my father had promised him.There are many types of "contracts" between humans and demons, and my grandfather had the worst contract. It's called a "generational contract" and it not just affect the one who signed the contract, it affect the whole family and generation. The demon made my grandfather wealthy, but in return demanded his soul and the souls of all persons of his bloodline who also have the third eye. First my grandfather died, then his wife, then his kids. My father and his sister remained. They were the only ones who could not open their third eye (at least not THEN). Years later, my aunt died inexplicably. That must have been the time when her third eye showed for the first time.
My dad is the only survivor of his family. After he had his first child, it died a few days later. Some years ago his second son died.

The "third eye thing" can bring a lot of positive and helpful experiences, but you have to be very careful. To see hidden things is not always great.
There'ssome entities or demons that are not always kind-hearted to you. They can turn your life to a nightmare.

Sorry for my bad English.

Good demons are angels...

 

[Str]

Jimin has lost the spark in his eyes. His eyes look very vacant and lost now, even when he's clowning around with the other members, there's a lost look. He seems to be in a perpetually disassociated state. It's so sad to see because he was my bias. Also, he seems to be the one that is stylised to be the most 'feminine' and 'soft' and after the concept photo of him with his boxers showing - I think he is being used sexually. The photo may be 'advertisement'.

Jhope and JK seem to be the only members to me who still seem grounded. They haven't changed much since their debut. I feel like Jhope understands his situation better than JK though. JK can go either way. He seems confused to me, but I sometimes get the feeling that he thinks a lot. He doesn't seem very naive to me, but he doesn't completely understand either.

V...has changed a lot. A lot of his fans are deluded imo. He clearly is going through some issues and it's showing up in his eyes, but so many fans want to believe he's just 'maturing'. JK and Jimin have matured a lot too, but somehow, there's still some innocence in their faces. Even with Jimin looking as vacant and lost as he does, there's still innocence in his face. V's eyes and face have hardened, and it has nothing to do with 'maturing'. He changed after the Wings era, and I don't think it's entirely down to the deaths of some of his loved ones. Sorrow gives a different look - he looks hardened, I just can't explain it. I feel like if he doesn't sort his issues out...he will be a danger to himself. His naivete was his downfall.

Jin - I have such a soft spot for him - quite frankly needs to get out of BTS. Not just for his own happiness, but possibly for his own safety. I'm beginning to think there really is a link between Jin and V. It'll be interesting to see if there's some karmic link in their birth charts (for those of you who believe in that kind of thing).

RM is...not so straightforward. Yoongi might not have been 'sinister' initially, but he went along with it afterwards, possibly after battling with himself.

I think the maknae line are not aware at all of the symbolism and whatnot in their MV's. The way the MV's are shot also makes it hard to understand what's going on, since they're not really filmed chronologically.

RM definitely knows. Yoongi possibly now too, more than likely. JHope I feel is teetering. He's caught between knowing and not knowing.

 

[blissfate]

it's important for you to understand that you have been manipulated, you have been lied to your entire life, when you're born think of your brain, close your eyes, it's like an empty computer and all the data that was put into your brain that was stored in your brain or stored in your memory card was nothing but lies programming like anti viruses or viruses, i should say viruses put in your memory bank and they've been programming all of us with a fake history of the world with lies about evolution and the truth of the matter is they've got they have convinced the masses out there that Satan doesn't exist that God doesn't exist,.. they've been planning seeds in our heads through television programs that feature children shows that feature kids acting like adults and adults acting like kids, the reality shows that have kids who are as young as seven years old cooking steak dinners and acting more adult than adults this has all been done to subliminally program you to prepare you because the Satanists and the occultists want everyone to live in their upside-down world, just like stranger things the upside down that is what this world is becoming everything has been inverted and flipped because that's what Satanists do they read the Quran and the Bible backwards, they look at God in the Quran and Bible as evil they detest prophet Mohammed and prophet Jesus they probably know the Bible and Quran better than most people because they live to defy all of God's laws and all of God's commandments that's what they live for and that's what they do and their goal is to get everybody on board with that..

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This is what i've been talking about..
I always tell my friends about the universe and how praying isn't what they think it is (praying is like the equivalent to performing a ritual)
whenever i try to tell people about this shit like law of attraction they're like: "OH WELL GOD WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT IF I DID THAT" no, there is no god, it doesn't even make sense with the saying people are mentioning "everyone is equal" okay so well if everyone is equal why are people worshipping this god? WHO IS LITERALLY SEEN AS A HUMAN
It literally makes no sense. and its literally just shit to keep you programmed from finding out the truth

because they WANT to trap us in churches and say things are bad to keep us from finding out the truth..
Their philosophy is to scare people into saying that they're going to hell if they don't believe in certain things....

Another thing i've noticed is that in the usa whenever we sing the star-spangled-banner or pledge or whatever the hell that is..
It's literally just a cult ritual almost to make you feel like you're not alone..

and schools? They just want to brainwash you with everything but the truth. Literally most of what is taught there is lies

and don't even get me started on the media and advertisements
As far as i'm concerned that shit makes people go crazy as fuck

This is what makes me irritated nowadays.. because i hear people joking about mental illness like its all fun and games..
when in actuality you're just adding to your karmic debt..
Whenever you wish bad upon someone, you're actually wishing it towards yourself..
The same goes for lying.. if your words don't match your intentions.. you're adding to your debt

If people were more awake i'd feel less irritated about this, but hearing people just say this thinking they have no consequence just gets on my nerves because its so offensive

And btw angels and demons are real.. but there is no god or satan...
(Just think if the world was created by god, then who created god?)

 

[tyrab]

This was posted on the other there it but I wanted to post it:

 

[Chic]

Jimin has lost the spark in his eyes. His eyes look very vacant and lost now, even when he's clowning around with the other members, there's a lost look. He seems to be in a perpetually disassociated state. It's so sad to see because he was my bias. Also, he seems to be the one that is stylised to be the most 'feminine' and 'soft' and after the concept photo of him with his boxers showing - I think he is being used sexually. The photo may be 'advertisement'.

Jhope and JK seem to be the only members to me who still seem grounded. They haven't changed much since their debut. I feel like Jhope understands his situation better than JK though. JK can go either way. He seems confused to me, but I sometimes get the feeling that he thinks a lot. He doesn't seem very naive to me, but he doesn't completely understand either.

V...has changed a lot. A lot of his fans are deluded imo. He clearly is going through some issues and it's showing up in his eyes, but so many fans want to believe he's just 'maturing'. JK and Jimin have matured a lot too, but somehow, there's still some innocence in their faces. Even with Jimin looking as vacant and lost as he does, there's still innocence in his face. V's eyes and face have hardened, and it has nothing to do with 'maturing'. He changed after the Wings era, and I don't think it's entirely down to the deaths of some of his loved ones. Sorrow gives a different look - he looks hardened, I just can't explain it. I feel like if he doesn't sort his issues out...he will be a danger to himself. His naivete was his downfall.

Jin - I have such a soft spot for him - quite frankly needs to get out of BTS. Not just for his own happiness, but possibly for his own safety. I'm beginning to think there really is a link between Jin and V. It'll be interesting to see if there's some karmic link in their birth charts (for those of you who believe in that kind of thing).

RM is...not so straightforward. Yoongi might not have been 'sinister' initially, but he went along with it afterwards, possibly after battling with himself.

I think the maknae line are not aware at all of the symbolism and whatnot in their MV's. The way the MV's are shot also makes it hard to understand what's going on, since they're not really filmed chronologically.

RM definitely knows. Yoongi possibly now too, more than likely. JHope I feel is teetering. He's caught between knowing and not knowing.

This is why I asked if you all think the boys have any regret, shame or guilt. If they truly understand what's happening, how can they have a clear conscious? There's a price for everything.

 

[1shae123]

Good demons are angels...

There is no such thing as a "good demon".

 

[Str]

This is why I asked if you all think the boys have any regret, shame or guilt. If they truly understand what's happening, how can they have a clear conscious? There's a price for everything.

I think that may have been someone else, since that was my first post!

Still, I'll give my thoughts. I genuinely think that JK and Jimin are still innocent. Jimin seems like he's in shock, he can't seem to understand. I feel like things may be fragmented for him. JK too, I think he's kept shrouded, intentionally or not, I'm not sure. For the most part, I get the feeling he doesn't really understand what's going on. I don't think those two understand at all what goes on in their MV's. They may 'sense' something, but the blindfold is still on, so to speak.

V for sure has regret. I think he's angry too. Throw in guilt and shame too. He was possibly the most naive out of all of them and naive people are dangerous in the wrong hands. I think we need to keep in mind that sometimes, bad choices don't present themselves as black and white. That's why people make mistakes, sometimes fatal ones. That's why coercion works. He may have been given a choice, he may not have. If he was given a choice, it would have been either a very difficult one or presented in such a way that he didn't realise what the outcome would be.

I don't think RM feels any of those things. He seems calculating. Yoongi...I get the feeling he goes back and forth. I feel like he's not 100% content...but he's leaning towards RM's side.

Jin...I feel was trapped into the whole thing. His passion was acting anyway, and Bighit do him such a huge disservice. They don't even give him proper acting roles in their little acting skits. I think Jin's involvement was murky...more than anything, he feels helpless.

JHope...I'm not so sure. He doesn't know everything, but I feel like he's not content.

 

[1shae123]

This is what i've been talking about..
I always tell my friends about the universe and how praying isn't what they think it is (praying is like the equivalent to performing a ritual)
whenever i try to tell people about this shit like law of attraction they're like: "OH WELL GOD WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT IF I DID THAT" no, there is no god, it doesn't even make sense with the saying people are mentioning "everyone is equal" okay so well if everyone is equal why are people worshipping this god? WHO IS LITERALLY SEEN AS A HUMAN
It literally makes no sense. and its literally just shit to keep you programmed from finding out the truth

because they WANT to trap us in churches and say things are bad to keep us from finding out the truth..
Their philosophy is to scare people into saying that they're going to hell if they don't believe in certain things....

Another thing i've noticed is that in the usa whenever we sing the star-spangled-banner or pledge or whatever the hell that is..
It's literally just a cult ritual almost to make you feel like you're not alone..

and schools? They just want to brainwash you with everything but the truth. Literally most of what is taught there is lies

and don't even get me started on the media and advertisements
As far as i'm concerned that shit makes people go crazy as fuck

This is what makes me irritated nowadays.. because i hear people joking about mental illness like its all fun and games..
when in actuality you're just adding to your karmic debt..
Whenever you wish bad upon someone, you're actually wishing it towards yourself..
The same goes for lying.. if your words don't match your intentions.. you're adding to your debt

If people were more awake i'd feel less irritated about this, but hearing people just say this thinking they have no consequence just gets on my nerves because its so offensive

And btw angels and demons are real.. but there is no god or satan...
(Just think if the world was created by god, then who created god?)

Oh man.... I think you may be a bit confused about religion in itself. Or at least your perception of it is a bit distorted. How do you believe in the existence of angels and demons but not God and satan? I'm rather confused by this ideology....

 

[Str]

This is what i've been talking about..
I always tell my friends about the universe and how praying isn't what they think it is (praying is like the equivalent to performing a ritual)
whenever i try to tell people about this shit like law of attraction they're like: "OH WELL GOD WOULDN'T APPRECIATE IT IF I DID THAT" no, there is no god, it doesn't even make sense with the saying people are mentioning "everyone is equal" okay so well if everyone is equal why are people worshipping this god? WHO IS LITERALLY SEEN AS A HUMAN
It literally makes no sense. and its literally just shit to keep you programmed from finding out the truth

because they WANT to trap us in churches and say things are bad to keep us from finding out the truth..
Their philosophy is to scare people into saying that they're going to hell if they don't believe in certain things....

Another thing i've noticed is that in the usa whenever we sing the star-spangled-banner or pledge or whatever the hell that is..
It's literally just a cult ritual almost to make you feel like you're not alone..

and schools? They just want to brainwash you with everything but the truth. Literally most of what is taught there is lies

and don't even get me started on the media and advertisements
As far as i'm concerned that shit makes people go crazy as fuck

This is what makes me irritated nowadays.. because i hear people joking about mental illness like its all fun and games..
when in actuality you're just adding to your karmic debt..
Whenever you wish bad upon someone, you're actually wishing it towards yourself..
The same goes for lying.. if your words don't match your intentions.. you're adding to your debt

If people were more awake i'd feel less irritated about this, but hearing people just say this thinking they have no consequence just gets on my nerves because its so offensive

And btw angels and demons are real.. but there is no god or satan...
(Just think if the world was created by god, then who created god?)

I think similarly on a lot of points you've covered. It was interesting to read.

 

[Chic]

I think that may have been someone else, since that was my first post!

Still, I'll give my thoughts. I genuinely think that JK and Jimin are still innocent. Jimin seems like he's in shock, he can't seem to understand. I feel like things may be fragmented for him. JK too, I think he's kept shrouded, intentionally or not, I'm not sure. For the most part, I get the feeling he doesn't really understand what's going on. I don't think those two understand at all what goes on in their MV's. They may 'sense' something, but the blindfold is still on, so to speak.

V for sure has regret. I think he's angry too. Throw in guilt and shame too. He was possibly the most naive out of all of them and naive people are dangerous in the wrong hands. I think we need to keep in mind that sometimes, bad choices don't present themselves as black and white. That's why people make mistakes, sometimes fatal ones. That's why coercion works. He may have been given a choice, he may not have. If he was given a choice, it would have been either a very difficult one or presented in such a way that he didn't realise what the outcome would be.

I don't think RM feels any of those things. He seems calculating. Yoongi...I get the feeling he goes back and forth. I feel like he's not 100% content...but he's leaning towards RM's side.

Jin...I feel was trapped into the whole thing. His passion was acting anyway, and Bighit do him such a huge disservice. They don't even give him proper acting roles in their little acting skits. I think Jin's involvement was murky...more than anything, he feels helpless.

JHope...I'm not so sure. He doesn't know everything, but I feel like he's not content.

I know it was your first post. I just quoted you cos you made valid points.

Welcome to the thread!