BTS discussion thread

[Maggieca]

so it seems it was BangPD's decision more than his parents, right?

• "Jungkook went to the Mnet for Superstar K2 auditions and got casted by my current company’s staff. When he danced, Bang Sihyuk PD told him,“No emotion. No emotion while dancing.” So, he went to the U.S.A for dance training."
• "In USA, Jungkook learned Urban Style, Female Dancing Style, Powerful Dances, and many more from famous choreographers."

https://weebfacts.weebly.com/bts.html

so this means he went to the USA for company orders?
I heard Jungkook had offers from other companies before Bighit but I also heard he was too shy and could not even sing in front of others so I'm confused

He recieved offers after this supertar k2 audition. Maybe?

 

[MochiAmour]

so this means he went to the USA for company orders?
I heard Jungkook had offers from other companies before Bighit but I also heard he was too shy and could not even sing in front of others so I'm confused

He recieved offers after this supertar k2 audition. Maybe?

I think there were multiple talent scouts from different companies that watched and then sent him offers after he didn't pass the audition.

It's interesting that he was already in the company when he went to American then. The dance teacher, if he even was one, was obviously his handler and that's probably when his brainwashing began since the teacher was mostly likely a part of Bang PD's staff.

 

[Maggieca]

Hello everyone! I’m new here and this has all been very insightful and eye opening. So glad I found this forum.

I have a question. What happens when BTS looses popularity/disbands? Would they be set free to live their lives or would they still have ties because they know too much.

I don't know what happens when they loose popularity or disband
some idols left their groups, like EXO members and Sulli from f(x) but they are still part of the industry so I'm not sure if they can ever be completly free

Like you said Taehyung wants to be an actor, he seems to have a lot of celebrity friends too but If he is a victim of abuse or mind control maybe he doesn't even know what's going on
Maybe that's why he keeps talking about his future family and kids, acting like everything is fine and he can be free in the future. It could be wishful thinking on his part

 

[MochiAmour]

I'm interested in peoples thoughts about one of their particular trips since it's always been in the back of mind since I first discovered they went there. I've always heard the rumours about western celebs and their Dubai "business trips" but when I learnt they also went there, I found it to be an odd place especially for a K-Con event that was only for 1 day and didn't have a huge line up of performers.

The boys went to Abu Dhabi for that event back in 2016 before they hit it big. Most of us know what apparently goes down in those parts. I've watched their 'Summer Package' and noticed some things that could be considered a little off. Anyone else have any suspicions in regards to that trip??

 

[Maggieca]

I'm interested in peoples thoughts about one of their particular trips since it's always been in the back of mind since I first discovered they went there. I've always heard the rumours about western celebs and their Dubai "business trips" but when I learnt they also went there, I found it to be an odd place especially for a K-Con event that was only for 1 day and didn't have a huge line up of performers.

The boys went to Abu Dhabi for that event back in 2016 before they hit it big. Most of us know what apparently goes down in those parts. I've watched their 'Summer Package' and noticed some things that could be considered a little off. Anyone else have any suspicions in regards to that trip??

I remember about that trip and I've heard the rumors about western celebrities who go there to do "special performances"
But I never watched the summer package. what "off" things did you notice? If you don't mind sharing

 

[quinuoa]

I think the comeback this time seems to be especially more depressing that last because of that survey that the fans took? Idk if it was recent but it was mentioned here a few times about how the fans were asked if they suffered from mental health issues like depression and such. If the masses do have such issues then if they make songs related to such a concept, then from the company's point of view isnt it highly profitable? I'm not dismissing the occult theory but i think its all purely business, good business, mind you, regardless of how horrible it sounds. People would want to listen to music that they relate to and singers they relate too. Plus, again as horrible as it sounds, we live in a era were depression sells. Its so highly romanticized these days.

 

[1shae123]

Kinda off topic,
But i've taken an interest in meditation for a few days and I enjoy spirituality quite a lot (The good kind of spirituality ofc)
So anyway, if i get to the point where i've practiced quite enough I might actually be able to open my third-eye

and this is a big deal because if i do open it I can post on here what directly i'm hearing from their songs under the lyrics and I can tell you what exactly they're hiding under the lyrics (the ones that have hidden eng messages)...

So look forward to that lol as I will also

I don't want to sound weird or rude but I've heard that messing with stuff like that only invites more evil, demonic like things into your life. I don't want you to get hurt

 

[blissfate]

I don't want to sound weird or rude but I've heard that messing with stuff like that only invites more evil, demonic like things into your life. I don't want you to get hurt

Im experienced with this stuff.. I'm not going to be forcing my third-eye to open. The only thing that happens if i open my third-eye is that i'll be able to see things from a different perspective and i'll discover the truth

Not everything involving spirituality is evil
its only evil unless you're doing occult practices and summoning demons

And it'll only invite evil if im forcing my third-eye to open without practicing meditation for a while and if i have a huge ego in the process

 

[Chic]

(Unpopular opinion...not meant to start a debate) I believe the third eye is supposed to be "opened"...or we were supposed to operate in it, so to speak. But because of the stigma behind it and it being attached to evil (why would Yahweh create us in His likeness with something deemed evil is the real question), people shy away from it. I myself am a Christian (I like "messenger of God" better), but I get people not wanting to engage it. I just have to think about why the foods and water (flouride) we ingest calcifies it. Makes me think there is more to it than what ALL of us really know.

Btw, mine isn't open...I don't think lol. And I have never tried to force it open. With that said, I do believe there is much to it and it was given to us as a means to truly discern spirits. Maybe that's where the frightening part comes i : there's some unbelievably frightening things in this world. We're talking about occult practices, imagine what other wild stuff beyond our human mind wouldn't be able to handle!


Back on topic, oh my goodness! Are ya'll thinking the boys could've possibly "performed" in Dubai, if you know what I mean? I can't!

 

[HappyAlfredo]

(Unpopular opinion...not meant to start a debate) I believe the third eye is supposed to be "opened"...or we were supposed to operate in it, so to speak. But because of the stigma behind it and it being attached to evil (why would Yahweh create us in His likeness with something deemed evil is the real question), people shy away from it. I myself am a Christian (I like "messenger of God" better), but I get people not wanting to engage it. I just have to think about why the foods and water (flouride) we ingest calcifies it. Makes me think there is more to it than what ALL of us really know.

Btw, mine isn't open...I don't think lol. And I have never tried to force it open. With that said, I do believe there is much to it and it was given to us as a means to truly discern spirits. Maybe that's where the frightening part comes i : there's some unbelievably frightening things in this world. We're talking about occult practices, imagine what other wild stuff beyond our human mind wouldn't be able to handle!


Back on topic, oh my goodness! Are ya'll thinking the boys could've possibly "performed" in Dubai, if you know what I mean? I can't!

What even is a third eye?

 

[Chic]

What even is a third eye?

It's the pineal gland. Someone can better explain it, but it is thought to be "the seat of the soul" in spiritual terms. It's function isn't fully understood, but it is thought to regulate some hormones, and produces melatonin.

It is said when it is opened, you "see" into the spirit realm, and have night terrors, etc. Again, someone else may can explain it better than I can. I'm not always good with expressing myself like I want. Plus...I'm about to leave work lol.

 

[HappyAlfredo]

It's the pineal gland. Someone can better explain it, but it is thought to be "the seat of the soul" in spiritual terms. It's function isn't fully understood, but it is thought to regulate some hormones, and produces melatonin.

It is said when it is opened, you "see" into the spirit realm, and have night terrors, etc. Again, someone else may can explain it better than I can. I'm not always good with expressing myself like I want. Plus...I'm about to leave work lol.

That doesn't sound very fun to be honest.. I think it's best to stick to what the Bible says about spiritual stuff as a Christian.

 

[the world is a stage]

How long would you say this programming goes on for? and what do you think they'll be programmed with next?

Do you mean monarch programming in general or do you refer to sex-kitten-programming?

“The basis for the success of the Monarch mind-control programming is that different personalities or personality parts called alters can be created who do not know each other, but who can take the body at different times. The amnesia walls that are built by traumas, form a protective shield of secrecy that protects the abusers from being found out, and prevents the front personalities who hold the body much of the time to know how their System of alters is being used. The shield of secrecy allows cult members to live and work around other people and remain totally undetected. The front alters can be wonderful Christians, and the deeper alters can be the worst type of Satanic monster imaginable–a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde effect. A great deal is at stake in maintaining the secrecy of the intelligence agency or the occult group which is controlling the slave. The success rate of this type of programming is high but when it fails, the failures are discarded through death. Each trauma and torture serves a purpose. A great deal of experimentation and research went into finding out what can and can’t be done. Charts were made showing how much torture a given body weight at a given age can handle without death.”
https://medium.com/@sebastianedward/mk-ultra-project-monarch-and-julian-assange-ad2aa42ba1a4

Sex kitten or beta kitten are used for the needs of higher occult members.
A MK ultra-survivor named Kathy O'Brien (I'm not sure if I spelled the name correctly) said she should have been killed at 30 or 33 because she was too old for a beta kitten (expiration date).

Looking at the hair color one can say, which kind of programming the victim have had.
Blonde hair is a sign of MK Ultra, a symbol of stardom and of being newly programmed.
As far as I know, all group members except for Jungkook had blonde hair.

Levels of Monarch Programming

The levels of Monarch Programming identify the slave’s “functions” and are named after the Electroencephalography (EEG) brainwaves associated with them.

Regarded as “general” or regular programming, ALPHA is within the base control personality. It characterized by extremely pronounced memory retention, along with substantially increased physical strength and visual acuity. Alpha programming is accomplished through deliberately subdividing the victims personality which, in essence, causes a left brain-right brain division, allowing for a programmed union of Left and Right through neuron pathway stimulation.

BETA is referred to as “sexual” programming (slaves). This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive instinct, devoid of inhibitions. “Cat” alters may come out at this level. Known as Kitten programming, it is the most visible kind of programming as some female celebrities, models, actresses and singers have been subjected to this kind of programming. In popular culture, clothing with feline prints often denote Kitten programming.

DELTA is known as “killer” programming and was originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear and very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level.

THETA — Considered to the “psychic” programming. Bloodliners (those coming from multi-generational Satanic families) were determined to exhibit a greater propensity for having telepathic abilities than did non-bloodliners. Due to its evident limitations, however, various forms of electronic mind control systems were developed and introduced, namely, bio-medical human telemetry devices (brain implants), directed-energy lasers using microwaves and/or electromagnetics. It is reported these are used in conjunction with highly-advanced computers and sophisticated satellite tracking systems.
https://medium.com/@sebastianedward/mk-ultra-project-monarch-and-julian-assange-ad2aa42ba1a4

 

[Chic]

I think it's best to stick to what the Bible says about spiritual stuff as a Christian.

And you have every right to believe that. I believe that as well. But I still believe as Christians we are to operate in the spirit. Majority of us do not.

This is a topic for another discussion. I did not intend to derail the thread. Just wanted to add my opinion.

 

[1shae123]

(Unpopular opinion...not meant to start a debate) I believe the third eye is supposed to be "opened"...or we were supposed to operate in it, so to speak. But because of the stigma behind it and it being attached to evil (why would Yahweh create us in His likeness with something deemed evil is the real question), people shy away from it. I myself am a Christian (I like "messenger of God" better), but I get people not wanting to engage it. I just have to think about why the foods and water (flouride) we ingest calcifies it. Makes me think there is more to it than what ALL of us really know.

Btw, mine isn't open...I don't think lol. And I have never tried to force it open. With that said, I do believe there is much to it and it was given to us as a means to truly discern spirits. Maybe that's where the frightening part comes i : there's some unbelievably frightening things in this world. We're talking about occult practices, imagine what other wild stuff beyond our human mind wouldn't be able to handle!


Back on topic, oh my goodness! Are ya'll thinking the boys could've possibly "performed" in Dubai, if you know what I mean? I can't!

I've always been open minded about the thoughts you shared as well. But I've been too scared to take chances lol. (I like messengers of god too btw)

 

[blissfate]

It's the pineal gland. Someone can better explain it, but it is thought to be "the seat of the soul" in spiritual terms. It's function isn't fully understood, but it is thought to regulate some hormones, and produces melatonin.

It is said when it is opened, you "see" into the spirit realm, and have night terrors, etc. Again, someone else may can explain it better than I can. I'm not always good with expressing myself like I want. Plus...I'm about to leave work lol.

You only receive those negative things if you're forcing it to open

 

[blissfate]

Do you mean monarch programming in general or do you refer to sex-kitten-programming?

“The basis for the success of the Monarch mind-control programming is that different personalities or personality parts called alters can be created who do not know each other, but who can take the body at different times. The amnesia walls that are built by traumas, form a protective shield of secrecy that protects the abusers from being found out, and prevents the front personalities who hold the body much of the time to know how their System of alters is being used. The shield of secrecy allows cult members to live and work around other people and remain totally undetected. The front alters can be wonderful Christians, and the deeper alters can be the worst type of Satanic monster imaginable–a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde effect. A great deal is at stake in maintaining the secrecy of the intelligence agency or the occult group which is controlling the slave. The success rate of this type of programming is high but when it fails, the failures are discarded through death. Each trauma and torture serves a purpose. A great deal of experimentation and research went into finding out what can and can’t be done. Charts were made showing how much torture a given body weight at a given age can handle without death.”
https://medium.com/@sebastianedward/mk-ultra-project-monarch-and-julian-assange-ad2aa42ba1a4

Sex kitten or beta kitten are used for the needs of higher occult members.
A MK ultra-survivor named Kathy O'Brien (I'm not sure if I spelled the name correctly) said she should have been killed at 30 or 33 because she was too old for a beta kitten (expiration date).

Looking at the hair color one can say, which kind of programming the victim have had.
Blonde hair is a sign of MK Ultra, a symbol of stardom and of being newly programmed.
As far as I know, all group members except for Jungkook had blonde hair.

Levels of Monarch Programming

The levels of Monarch Programming identify the slave’s “functions” and are named after the Electroencephalography (EEG) brainwaves associated with them.

Regarded as “general” or regular programming, ALPHA is within the base control personality. It characterized by extremely pronounced memory retention, along with substantially increased physical strength and visual acuity. Alpha programming is accomplished through deliberately subdividing the victims personality which, in essence, causes a left brain-right brain division, allowing for a programmed union of Left and Right through neuron pathway stimulation.

BETA is referred to as “sexual” programming (slaves). This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive instinct, devoid of inhibitions. “Cat” alters may come out at this level. Known as Kitten programming, it is the most visible kind of programming as some female celebrities, models, actresses and singers have been subjected to this kind of programming. In popular culture, clothing with feline prints often denote Kitten programming.

DELTA is known as “killer” programming and was originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear and very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level.

THETA — Considered to the “psychic” programming. Bloodliners (those coming from multi-generational Satanic families) were determined to exhibit a greater propensity for having telepathic abilities than did non-bloodliners. Due to its evident limitations, however, various forms of electronic mind control systems were developed and introduced, namely, bio-medical human telemetry devices (brain implants), directed-energy lasers using microwaves and/or electromagnetics. It is reported these are used in conjunction with highly-advanced computers and sophisticated satellite tracking systems.
https://medium.com/@sebastianedward/mk-ultra-project-monarch-and-julian-assange-ad2aa42ba1a4

So when they are under that programming are they under that specific brain wave?

 

[the world is a stage]

(Unpopular opinion...not meant to start a debate) I believe the third eye is supposed to be "opened"...or we were supposed to operate in it, so to speak. But because of the stigma behind it and it being attached to evil (why would Yahweh create us in His likeness with something deemed evil is the real question), people shy away from it. I myself am a Christian (I like "messenger of God" better), but I get people not wanting to engage it. I just have to think about why the foods and water (flouride) we ingest calcifies it. Makes me think there is more to it than what ALL of us really know.

Btw, mine isn't open...I don't think lol. And I have never tried to force it open. With that said, I do believe there is much to it and it was given to us as a means to truly discern spirits. Maybe that's where the frightening part comes i : there's some unbelievably frightening things in this world. We're talking about occult practices, imagine what other wild stuff beyond our human mind wouldn't be able to handle!


Back on topic, oh my goodness! Are ya'll thinking the boys could've possibly "performed" in Dubai, if you know what I mean? I can't!

In my case, it would be very dangerous because everyone in my family who had the third eye died.
Anyone who can see with his third eye, sees entities/demons and can communicate with them. My grandfather made a "deal" decades ago. Since then, my family has been practically cursed.

 

[blissfate]

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Something this day and age is all about is the, “third eye”. Although, I talk about it being part of an indigo consciousness, I will say there are some very misleading ideas of what it is.
When I refer to the third eye, I refer to the 6th sense that is the intuition. If celebs want to say they are using the third eye to promote materialism, immorality, and egotism, through their lifestyles and entertainment, then they are sadly misusing their third eye.

The 6th sense goes beyond what we can see, hear, taste, touch and feel. Intuition is using that guiding force to understand what is most important in life and what is frivolous temptation to “fall” back down in lower consciousness.

Being able to understand does not come from the normal part of our brain that processes things in daily life. They come from somewhere closer to the heart, deep within our chest and is felt as a “knowing” or an “instinct”. This area is considered the middle of the forehead, where the truth is seen beyond the normal eye perception.
Those that don’t see truth in religious texts very much may have their intuition blocked. If it were open, they would be able to start to connect all things together and see the truths clearly. It starts with a choice as someone once blocked off, who opened herself to learning. It’s about choice.

The indigo consciousness comes from the idea of the Hindu teachings of the chakras. 7 parts of the human body that symbolize different levels of the consciousness and realms of human emotions and thoughts. They are laid out in the ROYGBIV color spectrum you learn in science class as a kid. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green , Blue, Indigo, and lastly Violet. These colors are not colors, but are actually frequencies of waves of energies that then get transposed to colors in the human mind and then eye. So each color represents a level of consciousness. The higher you go on the scale of frequencies and waves, the higher your quest for truth and connection to God you go.

And while this could be the seven layers of sky, it also can have a deeper meaning to show that God exists in a high level of consciousness off this earth and in another dimension of space. So humans have a choice of where they are consciously and it is fun to read about chakras and their meanings. You can start to see war, and greed coming from the lower chakras from men that “do not understand” in the unity of all things. When you get higher into the realms of Indigo, where the “third eye” is to be opened you start to see the lies in the media easily and the truth of the nature of God while people are trying to spread falsehood and disbelief.

The Illuminati or a group who says they are the illuminati stemming from the Enlightenment Era poses that they use the third eye to become a “god” of their own creation. A person with disbelief will use the 6th sense in different ways than someone with belief. I am not entirely sure that someone actually can have their third eye open if they are atheist that believes in nothing beyond this life.

Yes this is why im wanting to open it through practice and mediation..
I want to have a higher knowledge and see through the media's bs
Through practice I can learn to ground myself and balance my chakras..
thus learning how to protect myself throughout this lifetime.

I just wouldn't trust any of the spirits that you see when you do open your third-eye

Opening your third-eye can be safe depending on if you do it yourself or let the universe do it when it knows that you're ready
..i'm doing the second option here

 

[Chic]

With all the fame, success, everything that comes with the celebrity label, do you all think some of the members struggle with guilt because of brainwashing their fans and all the stuff we've been talking about? I just know if it were me, I'd still have a guilty conscious and wouldn't be able to sleep at night, even if I did have money and fame.