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the world is a stage

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Kinda off topic,
But i've taken an interest in meditation for a few days and I enjoy spirituality quite a lot (The good kind of spirituality ofc)
So anyway, if i get to the point where i've practiced quite enough I might actually be able to open my third-eye

and this is a big deal because if i do open it I can post on here what directly i'm hearing from their songs under the lyrics and I can tell you what exactly they're hiding under the lyrics (the ones that have hidden eng messages)...

So look forward to that lol as I will also
Don't try to do it. It can be very dangerous, believe me. It's not funny or helpful at all. My grandfather was involved in these kind of "things"...(I'm African).
 
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Ah so you think taehyung was used to help brainwash jk?
would explain why they're so close.. they probably don't even stop to question why things are done a certain way.. probably told from this company to just accept whats happening and not to question things

Scaring these people into thinking if they don't do things a certain way they get punished... I'm not quite sure thats even living
Do know if they were directly brainwashed, could be indirect. I remember hearing the group say JK used to cry a lot. That's traumatizing enough. I think it was V who would comfort him, that would explain the closeness.
 

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VERY interesting and informative articles.



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Mood: Anxious and irritable..
Thought process: illogical,retarded
Dx: Munchausen syndrome
Plan: Placebo


"Munchausen syndrome is a mental disorder that causes a person with a deep-seated need for attention to fake sickness or injury. Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSP) is a disorder in which the caretaker of a child either makes up fake symptoms or causes real symptoms to make it appear as though the child is injured or ill. The term “by proxy” means “through a substitute.” Though MSP is primarily a mental illness, it’s also considered a form of child abuse."

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"Most controversially, unwitting test subjects were subject to a number of techniques to manipulate their mental state and brain functions, including the administration of drugs such as LSD, hypnosis, sensory deprivation, isolation, verbal and sexual abuse, as well as a variety of torture techniques.
The brains of subjects lying awake with their eyes closed, under a placebo (L) and the drug LSD (R).
A 1955 document describing the substances used in the experiments gives some indication of the sheer scope of the project. This includes drugs that will; "promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public"; cause victims to age faster; recreate the effects of alcohol; emulate the symptoms of recognized diseases; induce temporary/permanent brain damage and loss of memory; produce amnesia of particular events; provoke shock and confusion over extended periods of time; create physical disablement (such as paralysis); alter personality structure; cause mental confusion; promote weakness or distortion of eyesight and hearing."

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Representation of jimin's alter ego

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THE GLITCH

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The general consensus that conspiracists believe is that a powerful group of people brainwash celebrities and use them to further their occultist agenda. According to theorists, celebs who've been mind-controlled are prone to "glitches" when their brain starts to fight against the programming. Many believe these "malfunctions" explain famous public breakdowns, like Britney Spears' head-shaving or Amanda Bynes', uh, everything. To add a splash of legitimacy to the movement, actress Roseanne Barr admitted in a TV interview in 2013 that "MK Ultra mind control rules Hollywood." She later elaborated on her comments to Esquire. "Yeah, it sounds insane," she said. "But do you think it sounds insane that a message bounces off a satellite and goes everywhere in the world at the same second? We live with that kind of technology.

Abraxas

It is said that the sum of the numerical values of the letters of the word "abraxas" gives 365 and that some Gnostic sects used them as amulets. One can recognize there allusions to the rites and beliefs of the sects who made use of them, jewels marking the different degrees of the initiatory hierarchy, this one also corresponding to the stages of the deliverance of the soul. Schematic figures, symbolic figures, the most important of which is a cock-headed creature, but also the Ouroboros, the famous snake biting its tail, a scarab, a man, a woman, a solar disk, a lunar crescent, stars, etc. We owe these stones to a Gnostic philosopher of the 2nd century of the Christian era named Basilides, which is why the "abraxas" are also called "basilidian stones". Belonging to the Alexandrian school, Basilide was a supporter of religious syncretism. His followers allegedly strangled Mark the Evangelist in Alexandria, Egypt.

the term abraxas has been demonized and thus also serves to designate a demon. The latter is represented as a being with a rooster's head, whose legs are snakes (or dragons) and holding in his hands a shield and a whip. He is sometimes represented crowned and dressed in armor. This representation corresponds to that of the cock-headed being taken over in the most common way (but without a crown) on the gnostic gems called "abraxas". The Abraxas demon is also sometimes represented in the form of a snake.

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Stigma, where Taehyung's carving out the name 'Abraxas' before he was caught by the police.

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Awake, where Jin's surrounded with wallpaper where 'Abraxas' were printed.

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MAMA, once jhope drank the medicine, he started to get insane.. Remember? Then, this flashed through his eye.


I just have to accept it. Im not obsessed, but I like this group. I like Jimin. I just have to accept what they are. I know they are not innocent but dang, I wouldn't have ever imagined this.
 

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I'm not understanding the purpose of the notes. Are they part of the comeback...like teasers?
 

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***still processing this***

Is it fair to say then with all this evidence that they've been brainwashed from the beginning? so anything they do now and have been doing is all part of the control, or do you guys still consider free will even if they are being brainwashed?

I keep thinking of Jonghyun. I read the "letter" and I get this image in my mind of him trying to explain how he feels, which is normal, everyone has those feelings from time to time, the key is not to focus on the negative, but the image I have is him in this place of honesty and vulnerability and then there is a voice that's like "it's your personality", "it's your fault", " maybe it didn't happen that way", " maybe you're confused."

It's horrible, and I cringe at the thought of BTS going through that.
It may not seem like much but if you are in a vulnerable place where your inner self is searching, you have to be careful who is around you and who you interact with and obviously if it's a snake, their words can wreck things.
 

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***still processing this***

Is it fair to say then with all this evidence that they've been brainwashed from the beginning? so anything they do now and have been doing is all part of the control, or do you guys still consider free will even if they are being brainwashed?

I believe some of them have free will, especially RM and Yoongi because they have a lot of influence in their music and when they speak they seem completely confident about the things they say. Yoongi said he is doing this for the money and RM is the one who aproves the songs together with the company so I don't think he is controlled. More like he and the CEO are partners

I have my doubts with maknae line because they entered the company when they were very young so I don't think it was their choice. Maybe they were sold by their parents, the same thing that happens in hollywood with those Disney stars

Jhope and Jin remain a mistery. Jin is the oldest but it's always ignored by his company and they have a weird obsession with killing him off in every video. Jhope started with a happy image but now he is different, he is part of the rap line but the company has a preference for RM and Yoongi before him
 

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***still processing this***

Is it fair to say then with all this evidence that they've been brainwashed from the beginning? so anything they do now and have been doing is all part of the control, or do you guys still consider free will even if they are being brainwashed?

I keep thinking of Jonghyun. I read the "letter" and I get this image in my mind of him trying to explain how he feels, which is normal, everyone has those feelings from time to time, the key is not to focus on the negative, but the image I have is him in this place of honesty and vulnerability and then there is a voice that's like "it's your personality", "it's your fault", " maybe it didn't happen that way", " maybe you're confused."

It's horrible, and I cringe at the thought of BTS going through that.
It may not seem like much but if you are in a vulnerable place where your inner self is searching, you have to be careful who is around you and who you interact with and obviously if it's a snake, their words can wreck things.
They've 100% been brainwashed since they became trainees imo. They're not as free as they'd like you to believe. They've let things slip that elude to that. The further involved you come (sucess/fame/fortune) the harder it is to leave without a heavy price.
 

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I believe some of them have free will, especially RM and Yoongi because they have a lot of influence in their music and when they speak they seem completely confident about the things they say. Yoongi said he is doing this for the money and RM is the one who aproves the songs together with the company so I don't think he is controlled. More like he and the CEO are partners

I have my doubts with maknae line because they entered the company when they were very young so I don't think it was their choice. Maybe they were sold by their parents, the same thing that happens in hollywood with those Disney stars

Jhope and Jin remain a mistery. Jin is the oldest but it's always ignored by his company and they have a weird obsession with killing him off in every video. Jhope started with a happy image but now he is different, he is part of the rap line but the company has a preference for RM and Yoongi before him
This ^ RM seems like he's in cahoots with the CEO and possibly Yoongi but I don't believe the rest are as in the know like them.
 

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Can you do it that quickly? I know some sources say it takes years to open. What do you say?
Ah well I have to do it slowly or else i'll experience a long list of night terrors, anxiety, and other stuff which isn't positive
I'm mediating everyday before i go to sleep and practicing grounding my chakras

When i'm ready it'll open on its own but as for rn i'm going to be practicing a lot
 
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Don't try to do it. It can be very dangerous, believe me. It's not funny or helpful at all. My grandfather was involved in these kind of "things"...(I'm African).
Its not harmful if you practice a lot before doing it.. your grandfather probably forced it which can have negative effects if you never dealt with it before

I've been told from someone who currently has their third-eye open to ground chakras and expand awareness.. i've also heard becoming a vegan helps with this process as well but i have low resources of plant-based food.. so it might be a while before it actually opens on its own
 
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I believe some of them have free will, especially RM and Yoongi because they have a lot of influence in their music and when they speak they seem completely confident about the things they say. Yoongi said he is doing this for the money and RM is the one who aproves the songs together with the company so I don't think he is controlled. More like he and the CEO are partners

I have my doubts with maknae line because they entered the company when they were very young so I don't think it was their choice. Maybe they were sold by their parents, the same thing that happens in hollywood with those Disney stars

Jhope and Jin remain a mistery. Jin is the oldest but it's always ignored by his company and they have a weird obsession with killing him off in every video. Jhope started with a happy image but now he is different, he is part of the rap line but the company has a preference for RM and Yoongi before him
I have a feeling the maknae line or at least jungkook was sold.. keep in mind his parents let him go to america with a bunch of strangers just so that he would make the entertainment industry..

Doesn't that sound a little off?

Especially the whole Jimin and mk ultra situation.. it seems like his parents keep a shrine of him.. doesn't seem friendly to me

and you already know about taehyung...

the maknae line seems to be the most easily influenced since they're so young
 
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I have a feeling the maknae line or at least jungkook was sold.. keep in mind his parents let him go to america with a bunch of strangers just so that he would make the entertainment industry..

Doesn't that sound a little off?

Especially the whole Jimin and mk ultra situation.. it seems like his parents keep a shrine of him.. doesn't seem friendly to me
It's been stated several times that JK cried alot in the beginning because he wanted to go home as well as crying when he had to sing in front of people and he never wanted to practice either. That doesn't sound like behavior of someone who wants to be an idol or even a singer in general. It sounds like someone who was forced into the industry. Any parent concerned for their childs well-being would've let them go home if he was that traumatized by the experience imo.
 

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Its not harmful if you practice a lot before doing it.. your grandfather probably forced it which can have negative effects if you never dealt with it before

I've been told from someone who currently has their third-eye open to ground chakras and expand awareness.. i've also heard becoming a vegan helps with this process as well but i have low resources of plant-based food.. so it might be a while before it actually opens on its own
My grandfather was born with it.
 

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Jhope and Jin remain a mistery. Jin is the oldest but it's always ignored by his company and they have a weird obsession with killing him off in every video. Jhope started with a happy image but now he is different, he is part of the rap line but the company has a preference for RM and Yoongi before him
Hoseok was an underground/street dancer with his own crew. I think he wanted to be an idol, mainly because he loves dancing. Before he joined BH, he was actually a JYP trainee (I think he trained mostly together with GOT7 members, as well as Hui from Pentagon and Youngjae from BAP - not 100% sure tho'). As you all know CEO Bang was a JYP producer so maybe he lured him into joining his company instead. It's funny but I have never actually seen Hobi interacted with Got7. He's close with BAP tho' (Zelo is one of his oldest/closest friends from the industry in real life). Hoseok was actually trained to be a vocalist (maybe that's what he had been doing in JYP) and apparently he exchanged the position with Taehyung (who was supposedly to be a rapper).

Jin. What I know is he was almost cast by SM due to his visuals. Why he decided to become an idol when his passion lies in acting - I don't think anyone knows. But then again, he does have a main role in almost all of BTS videos.
 

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Is it fair to say then with all this evidence that they've been brainwashed from the beginning? so anything they do now and have been doing is all part of the control, or do you guys still consider free will even if they are being brainwashed?
Yes, as long as they have been 'trained' in a company for several years, one can always assume that they have been successfully brainwashed on the day they debut. Being an 'idol' is like having a job in any company. Employer would expect employees to be obedient. They are smart enough to do their work diligently, but stupid enough not to question anything they do. I would expect an 'idol' to be like this exactly. Except they are in more vulnerable positions in reality. Management would scrutinize them in every single thing they do, including their privacy.

Do we really think they have free will when most full-time employees around the world don't even have much of that in real life ?
 

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It's been stated several times that JK cried alot in the beginning because he wanted to go home as well as crying when he had to sing in front of people and he never wanted to practice either. That doesn't sound like behavior of someone who wants to be an idol or even a singer in general. It sounds like someone who was forced into the industry. Any parent concerned for their childs well-being would've let them go home if he was that traumatized by the experience imo.
Yeah especially that later experience i saw that was posted saying how he asked a random stranger if he could go home with them..

Yeah I honestly think he didn't wanna be there. But now he acts like he does which might mean hes either gotten use to it or hes been brainwashed that much..
He might also be too attached to the members to leave now though

I just couldn't imagine him as a singer before debut.. it just doesn't seem like it'd suit his personality
 
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