What is Predictive Programming?

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You are leaving out a bunch of things. One of them being the crucial Lybian TERRORISTS who end up killing Brown on the same event that has the Twin Pines destroyed plus the 911 backwards on the clock. Everything is laid out there, there is no leap to be made.



Yea there is another 9-11 there and there is an Illuminati eye right next to it.




Terminator 2 is indeed MK Ultra programming. James Cameron (the director) could even be related to Ewen Cameron. Seems like this Cameron family is quite present in this business. There is masonic symbolism in the movie also, such as the checkerboard floor in the police cloning scene. Also the movie is tinted in a blue gray color, blue being the name of the first 3 degrees.
I didn't leave out the terrorist aspect. I thought it was even less important to introduce this than some of the other references I mentioned. It is where he got the plutonium, which is what powers the Delorean and there is a historical reference to this. Uranium was part of the nuclear weapons program of the Libyans starting in 1980. The reference is actually making an accurate connection between something that is taking place in current events and this scene from a fictional story.

The Illuminati eye was really stretching it for me as well. It is basically just a triangle that no one would have ever noticed was there if people didn't start questioning the narrative regarding 9-11 almost immediately after it happened. The earliest use of YouTube for presenting conspiracy documentaries almost always referenced the possibility that 9-11 was an inside job. So much for the wonders of predictive programming. If we go by the definition of predictive programming according to Watt, predictive programming did not work out well for TPTB at all.

In some respects, you could say that early independent research of 9-11 is why we are we are all here right now talking conspiracy. It was the spark that started the fire in many ways.
 
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didn't leave out the terrorist aspect. I thought it was even less important to introduce this than some of the other references I mentioned. It is where he got the plutonium, which is what powers the Delorean and there is a historical reference to this. Uranium was part of the nuclear weapons program of the Libyans starting in 1980. The reference is actually making an accurate connection between something that is taking place in current events and this scene from a fictional story.
Yeah but those were Middle-Eastern terrorists, the same kind who they claim flew the planes into the towers.


It is basically just a triangle that no one would have ever noticed was there if people didn't start questioning the narrative regarding 9-11 almost immediately after it happened. The earliest use of YouTube for presenting conspiracy documentaries almost always referenced the possibility that 9-11 was an inside job. So much for the wonders of predictive programming. If we go by the definition of predictive programming according to Watt, predictive programming did not work out well for TPTB at all
True. Which is why sometimes I think those elements were put in there to warn us in a kind of retroactive way (looking back at the event). There is just no way that anyone could have guessed this would happen just by looking at these movies -- so it must have been intended to be subliminal. Also the problem is that people started to question the official narrative en masse only several years after it happened. The damage was done and W Bush is still running free and not held accountable for what he did. So in effect we have been "softened up" for a extended amount of time -- just enough for tptb to go on with their wars and police state state plans.
 

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Yeah but those were Middle-Eastern terrorists, the same kind who they claim flew the planes into the towers.




True. Which is why sometimes I think those elements were put in there to warn us in a kind of retroactive way (looking back at the event). There is just no way that anyone could have guessed this would happen just by looking at these movies -- so it must have been intended to be subliminal. Also the problem is that people started to question the official narrative en masse only several years after it happened. The damage was done and W Bush is still running free and not held accountable for what he did. So in effect we have been "softened up" for a extended amount of time -- just enough for tptb to go on with their wars and police state state plans.
I'm not seeing how you are making the connection between Lybians and Al Queda who is the one that was supposed to be responsible for 9-11 according to the official narrative. In addition to this, the Lybians in the movie were really involved in what seems more like black market Uranium trade than terrorists, to begin with. They were more or less coming at Christopher Lloyd's character for the same reason a drug dealer would come after someone who owed them money, which is not really an act of terrorism unless we assume that because they were from Lybia, this profiles their behavior according to a different definition.

They were Lybia terrorists for the movie the same way that many movies will illustrate drug smuggling from Mexico to the US because it creates an accurate identity reference for the character. It doesn't make as much sense for him to have come into the possession of black market plutonium otherwise.

All I'm really trying to say is that there is a lot more substance for other discussions within the subject of conspiracy than there seems to be for the concept of predictive programming. For example, the documentary Loose Change about 9-11 was very convincing and had a lot of research to support the premise that is presented. It was released in 2009, which is a reasonable timeframe for the amount of research that it contained to suggest that people were questioning 9-11 almost immediately after it happened.

I agree that some references clearly mean something like I introduced in the opening post. However, I don't think that the true reason has been identified and I think it is important to remember that just because someone has researched a subject, that doesn't mean that the case is closed and that this has to be an accepted conclusion going forward. There are a lot of holes with this theory and the objective of filling in these holes could lead to an entirely different conclusion.
 

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@rainerann Not disagreeing with what you are saying because its only right that everything should be questioned. I don't usually go over-board with little signs in movies or TV shows, as predictive programming, but Alan's description does hold. The best example I can give you is; there was an attack in the UK not too long ago, and some people commented that the only way to stop these attacks dead in the tracks is if GCHQ (think NSA) did something about it. It was so ridiculous to me that someone was suggesting pre-crime tech should be rolled out. Now, this is best exemplied by the movie Minority Report. So, either that person was so naive as to suggest that, disregarding other consequences, or s/he was a govt operative putting a suggestion out there, so people can mull over it and possibly force the govt to roll it out in an effort to cut crime.
Of course, you do realize that nowadays, every attack chips away at freedoms.
When it comes to predictive programming, this is definitely one of my favorites:

The film, Running Man

"In 2017, after a worldwide economic collapse, the United States has become a totalitarian police state , censoring all cultural activity. The U.S. government pacifies the populace by broadcasting game shows where convicted criminals fight for their lives, including the gladiator-style The Running Man" (Wikipedia)

Then you have this


I see 9/11 as an event of the same magnitude as the Kennedy assassination. A dark cloud over society followed both events. Both were meant to transform society (with 9/11 meant for a worldwide audience) and as I've said before, its not a coincidence that it happened at the turn of the century, because it would set the tone (a dark one) for this century. It was a ritual, so they had to say something about it. So I thought these would interest you and Helioform (btw, any evidence on the James and Ewen Cameron connection?)
The Semiotic Deception of 9/11
And http://web.archive.org/web/20030426192215/http://www.wright.edu/~elliot.gaines/Indeday.htm
And this A Space Odyssey monolith showing up, heralding changes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1100524.stm
 
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Just because I won't make the whole argument for you, doesn't mean I'm not learning new things. Making someone else's argument for them is a logical fallacy after all. Isn't it silly to assume I can possibly write every single opinion I may formulate?

Change in and of itself isn't evidence of predictive programming. Plus, I don't think I agree that things changed that much. In the few years after 9/11 some of the conspiracies about police states made a little bit more sense. We got a war, the patriot act, and militarized police. But now we are looking at a different time period.

There's a new protest and "movement" every week now. And they aren't getting beat up by cops. The way these protests are playing out today are nothing like 15 years ago. It just looks *nothing* like a police state anymore. I mean yeah there's still a lot of fucked up shit going on. But 90% of the hype people have predicted never materialized. The U.N never enforced martial law on us. Obama never came for guns. And all our kids haven't turned gay.
 

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I watched a movie the other night called "Cruel Summer". Well to be perfectly accurate I skipped through it. It's about an autistic boy getting ambushed and killed on a camping trip. What's infuriating is that he's killed for pretty much no reason. That's why I skipped through it, and couldn't wait to forget about it.

Then I saw this headline today...

Washington brothers charged with murder, r*pe after stomping teen more than 100 times in premeditated assault

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-ny-teen-killing-brothers-20180704-story.html

Now yall can probably sense what I'm getting at. These stories are virtually identical. And it isn't predictive programming. The lowlife scum that committed these crimes didn't watch "Cruel Summer" and get inspiration. And nobody has been "softened" up to random killings. You know? This isn't an example of a Masonic killing ritual. It's just some shitty part of human nature.
 
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The movie iRobot is a subject of discussion regarding predictive programming for the same things that you are introducing about the video game. I was familiar with discussion about artificial intelligence ethics and whether or not robots deserve rights before I was introduced to how this discussion is connected to the subject of predictive programming.

As a result, I am undecided on whether or not artificial intelligence ethics was introduced into popular media first or not. They seem to have been introduced at the same time. It is also hard to say whether seeing androids behave as human has the potential to sway people to accept them as sentient beings deserving rights through the process of predictive programming, which is what the discussion outside of popular media is centered around already.

Personally, I don't see any evidence that this is effective according to the definition for predictive programming. Including the subject of this real debate that exists in the present time, could simply be a concept that has entertainment value for producers of media. Here is an article about predictive programming and iRobot if you are interested. https://predictiveprogramminginmovies.blogspot.com/2008/08/i-robot-2004_23.html
While individuals may be up on things before they’re introduced to the public, the general public is usually slow to catch on. I definitely think those in power use the media to prime the public for certain things they’ll later bring to society. I don’t see how this applies to disasters or false flags like 9/11, but more so things such societal changes (acceptance of homosexuality or promiscuity for examples). What do you think they use the media for if not this?
 
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I watched a movie the other night called "Cruel Summer". Well to be perfectly accurate I skipped through it. It's about an autistic boy getting ambushed and killed on a camping trip. What's infuriating is that he's killed for pretty much no reason. That's why I skipped through it, and couldn't wait to forget about it.

Then I saw this headline today...

Washington brothers charged with murder, r*pe after stomping teen more than 100 times in premeditated assault

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-news-ny-teen-killing-brothers-20180704-story.html

Now yall can probably sense what I'm getting at. These stories are virtually identical. And it isn't predictive programming. The lowlife scum that committed these crimes didn't watch "Cruel Summer" and get inspiration. And nobody has been "softened" up to random killings. You know? This isn't an example of a Masonic killing ritual. It's just some shitty part of human nature.
That’s not what predictive programming suggests though
 

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@rainerann Not disagreeing with what you are saying because its only right that everything should be questioned. I don't usually go over-board with little signs in movies or TV shows, as predictive programming, but Alan's description does hold. The best example I can give you is; there was an attack in the UK not too long ago, and some people commented that the only way to stop these attacks dead in the tracks is if GCHQ (think NSA) did something about it. It was so ridiculous to me that someone was suggesting pre-crime tech should be rolled out. Now, this is best exemplied by the movie Minority Report. So, either that person was so naive as to suggest that, disregarding other consequences, or s/he was a govt operative putting a suggestion out there, so people can mull over it and possibly force the govt to roll it out in an effort to cut crime.
Of course, you do realize that nowadays, every attack chips away at freedoms.
When it comes to predictive programming, this is definitely one of my favorites:

The film, Running Man

"In 2017, after a worldwide economic collapse, the United States has become a totalitarian police state , censoring all cultural activity. The U.S. government pacifies the populace by broadcasting game shows where convicted criminals fight for their lives, including the gladiator-style The Running Man" (Wikipedia)

Then you have this


I see 9/11 as an event of the same magnitude as the Kennedy assassination. A dark cloud over society followed both events. Both were meant to transform society (with 9/11 meant for a worldwide audience) and as I've said before, its not a coincidence that it happened at the turn of the century, because it would set the tone (a dark one) for this century. It was a ritual, so they had to say something about it. So I thought these would interest you and Helioform (btw, any evidence on the James and Ewen Cameron connection?)
The Semiotic Deception of 9/11
And http://web.archive.org/web/20030426192215/http://www.wright.edu/~elliot.gaines/Indeday.htm
And this A Space Odyssey monolith showing up, heralding changes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1100524.stm
In the process of looking up more about the cover of the Economist that you mention, I found an interesting article that reiterates that the present definition of predictive programming is not actually even covering the scope of what many are trying to claim when they are finding these coincidences. https://fusionlacedillusions.com/index.php/2016/06/14/holy-crap-predictive-programming-economist-shows-pulse-shooting-2016-cover/

In the article, they introduce examples of predictive programming as they would be associated with something that could be considered a false flag after the fact like Sandy Hook, 9-11, etc. So, in theory, the definition of predictive programming should be modified to include that predictive programming is dependent on events that are within the control of a so-to-speak puppet master. Therefore, the scope of what can be considered predictive programming is narrow to include those events that are controlled for a specific function.

This reiterates for me that I do not reject the strange coincidences that are being suggested, but I don't think the definition that has been accepted is holding up as more of these things are introduced to the discussion. The definition is essentially like the plum pudding model was to understanding the structure of the atom early on. It recognized the existence of the atom and the presence of smaller particles within the atom, but it mushed them up so that the atom looked like a meatball rather than a miniature solar system.

As a result, it would seem that what we are calling predictive programming is potentially functioning as a sort of coded message system, and the average person does not have the cipher. Let's just say these false flags were presented in these movies. Did this change the response of the public? I don't think there was a noticeable change because as a method of changing behavior, this process has many weaknesses.

Therefore, if we consider these things to be messages sent to a broad network who understand them in a way that the general public doesn't, outsiders may or may not be influenced by this process, but in most cases, this influence is not going to exceed the influence that a runner on second would experience if he could see the signals the catcher was sending the pitcher.

These signals mean nothing to him. He can do nothing with this information, so this would essentially be ignored. In the same way, most of these occurrences are being more or less ignored by the general public who has no use for them so this process does not function as a successful way to influence the public to do much of anything. I believe that the reality that the majority of the public will ignore these things the same way they would ignore a sign written in Mandarin if they didn't speak Mandarin, is why the subconscious is so often referenced to support the present definition of predictive programming.

Why aren't people noticing these things in popular media? Because they aren't noticing it on a conscious level, is the claim that is being made.

Unfortunately, a study of literature and media doesn't support this presumption. In the early years of Hollywood, they were a lot of controversies that was resolved by the Rogers & Hammerstein era. The shooting of JFK and the Vietnam war were more than likely what changed this, but media will experience trends based on the attention the public give it. People choose their trends that identify the era's as they are remembered, not the other way around.

The book Ender's Game is a very good example of what I am talking about. I think many people would have never heard of Ender's Game if they hadn't made it into a movie a few years ago, because the style and the concept of the book were not what was popular at the time it was published. Now, dystopian novels are trending, so Ender's Game has gotten a second lease on life.

In fiction writing classes, the author of Ender's Game is well known for his style of writing. He says in the introduction, "the novel's very clarity may make it more challenging, simply because the story's vision is so relentlessly plain. It was important to her, and to others, to believe that children don't actually think or speak the way the children in Ender's Game think and speak. Yet I knew--I knew--that this was one of the truest things about Ender's Game. In fact, I realized in retrospect that this may indeed be part of the reason why it was so important to me."

Many of the modern dystopian novels follow this author's style of writing the same way something will be a new fashion and many designers will modify this style in some way while it remains popular to the public. Why does the public find something like Minority Report fascinating could be a reflection of where society is spiritually. This essentially represents some sort of search for truth rather than the programmed state of mind that individuals have control over because of their own free agency.

In addition to this, moving on to the subject of Minority Report again, this is a which came first scenario as well. I think because many people haven't taken fiction writing courses, they assume there is some magic to fiction writing and that these people are conjuring things that don't have real-life examples. In fact, a good rule of thumb is to write what you know and people like the author of Moby Dick and Ender's Game had real-life examples that were the inspiration for their story all along.

In the introduction to Ender's Game, he admits an awareness of something like the Battle Room in the story existing in reality already and the writer of Moby Dick spent some time on a whaling ship before he wrote the story. All stories have always mirrored some part of life that already existed. This is nothing new. So a lot of these examples where there is a fiction story that is a counterpart to something that is actually happening has always been a useful way to write stories. It wasn't something that was invented to serve the malicious goals of predictive programming.

In some cases, like in the case of Minority Report again, this could reiterate the point that I was making about government-sponsored media and the potential that 9-11 had something to do with a data collection process that could, in theory, be used to try to predict crime. I think understanding early programs like ARPANET would be more a more productive way to fill in the holes regarding the intention of this phenomenon than the somewhat superstitious discussion that is common to this subject.

I think people often sound the way I would imagine people sounded when they were trying to justify that someone was a witch who needed to be burned at a stake because she committed adultery or did something that became difficult to understand because of a lack of information, which created a sensationalized version of what was happening in its place. As a result, I think predictive programming is merely a sensationalized version of something that is actually happening across different forms of media. Sorry, this was so long.
 

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BTW @rainerann

You "joked" that Twin Peaks was related to the 9-11. Here is what I found on this:


The Twin Peaks soundtrack was released on September 11, 1990

This was exactly 11 years before the September 11 attacks

The sign on the album reads:
WELCOME
TO
TWIN PEAKS
POPULATION 51,201

50,000 people worked in the Twin Towers on 9/11

The 11th and final track on the album is titled "Falling"

The album was recorded at Excalibur Sound in New York City

On the show Twin Peaks, the protagonist, FBI Special Agent Dale Bartholomew Cooper, is named after the most infamous hijacker before 9/11, D. B. Cooper
 
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While individuals may be up on things before they’re introduced to the public, the general public is usually slow to catch on. I definitely think those in power use the media to prime the public for certain things they’ll later bring to society. I don’t see how this applies to disasters or false flags like 9/11, but more so things such societal changes (acceptance of homosexuality or promiscuity for examples). What do you think they use the media for if not this?
Media is a very complex thing in our day and age so let's just go with what you are saying. Media is used for introducing things that the public is slow to catch on to in order to push an agenda that TPTB believe will contain the most rewards for their clique within society.

Using solely their influence through mainstream media and their access to money to advertise on an international scale, would this endeavor be possible without censorship?

If it is not possible without some intervening censorship, then predictive programming according to the definition given by Alan Watt is inaccurate. Predictive programming is not capable of creating social change through the slow integration of concepts and ideas introduced through popular media.

As a result, a more accurate definition of predictive programming would be that predictive programming is a process of passive-aggressive censorship specific to the 20th and 21st century that slowly limited what an audience is exposed to forcing them to accept concepts and ideas because they had limited access to concepts and ideas that would counter them.
 

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The one about back to the future is stretching it a lot. They are combining brief, very, very vague connections between Back to the Future 1 and Back to the Future 2. I watched both movies 20 times when I was growing up and know exactly which scenes they are talking about. If you isolate Back to Future 1, you basically get nothing. The Twin Pines parking lot. Why don't we just say that the show Twin Peaks is also a reference to 9-11?

It is 1:16 and then it is 1:19, so it is three minutes later and both of these are supposed to reference 9-11 if you put one upside down or read the other one backward apparently. Then, that is it. There is some giant leap that the wire connecting to the clock tower that is supposed to be hit by lightning is a reference to a new movie that is being made about the towers in 2015, but that is only if you combine the year that is chosen for the sequel.

The wire connecting to the clock tower is supposed to power the Delorean so Marty McFly can get back to the future. I don't know how they were supposed to change that. Then there is a nine on a building and we are supposed to combine this with the flaming tire tracks that are created when the Delorean is sent back to the future because there is a different way for tire tracks to be presented besides parallel to each other. How this is supposed to create a subconscious reference to anything I don't know.

Then, in Back to the Future 2, the year is 2015 and you could really do a whole lot with the way the world is described from this movie. They basically are living in a smart house without a doorknob. The teenagers use hoverboards rather than skateboards. There is a lot of things that could be interesting to analyze from this movie.

However, the scene where Elizabeth Shue is mistaken for the future Mrs. Marty McFly and his parents come over seemed to be mistaking what the scene was showing. It was not a movie that was playing in the background. Marty McFly father enters the scene a minute ago upside down indicating that this is the way he traveled to their house instead of using some kind of wheelchair or walker. They are entering the living room, where Lea Thompson changes the scene in the window because the suggestion is that in the future, you can choose what you look at from your window like changing a channel.

The window is showing a scene of a garden with two matching bushes. She changes this a couple times to show different scenes, one of which includes a scene from New York City because like I said. It is supposed to suggest that in the future, you will be able to see New York from your window wherever you are with the push of a button, which isn't all that unusual considering approximately 1/3 of the tallest buildings in the country are in New York and it is is something of a fantasy city to see and visit for the rest of the country and even many people in the rest of the world.

Apparently, the older version of Marty McFly's dad being in the scene is supposed to mean that you are supposed to see this scene upside down? I think that is stretching it a little too far considering what the whole scene is presenting. However, these movies came out in the mid 80's and early 90's, and programs like MK Ultra had been active for a long time. So if you were to stretch these references into something predictive of 9-11, we are still focused and dependent on 9-11 for the primary source of evidence regarding predictive programming, and you could attribute these references again to some sort of military endeavor that would suggest that the Pentagon is funding our media.

The reference in Terminator 2 is really weak again. I truly expected something better but a clearance of 9 feet 11 inches is less than 2 feet under the standard height requirement for driving on any road in the US as far as I can find. The place that they are in is relevant as well. In LA, they are called flood control channels according to Wikipedia regarding the scene. I forget what I remember they were called when I was little, but it was something else, but this is not a road that is going to get normal traffic. This is not even a tunnel. It is a somewhat unique feature to the LA area that I haven't often seen in other locations that I have traveled to. They don't have something like this in Washington and so I don't find a clearance of 9 feet 11 inches all that unusual. As a result, if that is the only reference, I think I am going to pass on jumping on the predictive programming bandwagon.

However, this movie was also released in the early 90's after MK ultra has been a thing for a while, and we are still talking about a dependence on the presence of 9-11 references to support the premise of predictive programming. So this could again be referencing some kind of military program that could very well have originated with MK ultra and 9-11 is a reference to the day that they started building the Pentagon, and this means that our media is being funded by the government.

I would also like to point out that creating this thread required learning something new. This whole thread references what I didn't know before coming to this forum. As a result, the only reason for suggesting that no one is trying is trying to learn something is that by learning something new, I didn't form the same conclusion that would gain me entry in the club. Therefore, I didn't really learn anything I guess...
Even though you have now pontificated on the subject with a word count equalling War And Peace you have still yet to answer the same question I have now asked you THREE times.

Because you are unable to answer the question you instead choose to then write paragraph after paragraph of arguments why predictive programming isn't really worth looking into. Even though you deny you are trying to de-bunk that's exactly what you are trying to achieve.

Until you even attempt to answer the question, which is very pertinent to this thread, then I'll just stick with my theory that you are just here to confuse people and stop them looking into it further.

I shall be keeping it civil from here on in as I got my first warning of VC for being nasty to The Zone and he reported me but this has now give me fresh impetus. I have resilience in abundance.

I'll stick with Alan Watts thanks, he makes perfect sense to me, you don't.

I will now try and answer the thread title by using a single example. I'm going to focus on one single event and I'm going to show you how many "coincidences" surround it.

To substantiate my claim I will be showing music videos that have directly programmed an event before it happened.

I am aware that certain posters have an aversion to me showing music videos because it's on Youtube but that doesn't wash. YouTube is probably the biggest platform for accessing mainstream music videos in the world today.
 

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Even though you have now pontificated on the subject with a word count equalling War And Peace you have still yet to answer the same question I have now asked you THREE times.

Because you are unable to answer the question you instead choose to then write paragraph after paragraph of arguments why predictive programming isn't really worth looking into. Even though you deny you are trying to de-bunk that's exactly what you are trying to achieve.

Until you even attempt to answer the question, which is very pertinent to this thread, then I'll just stick with my theory that you are just here to confuse people and stop them looking into it further.

I shall be keeping it civil from here on in as I got my first warning of VC for being nasty to The Zone and he reported me but this has now give me fresh impetus. I have resilience in abundance.

I'll stick with Alan Watts thanks, he makes perfect sense to me, you don't.

I will now try and answer the thread title by using a single example. I'm going to focus on one single event and I'm going to show you how many "coincidences" surround it.

To substantiate my claim I will be showing music videos that have directly programmed an event before it happened.

I am aware that certain posters have an aversion to me showing music videos because it's on Youtube but that doesn't wash. YouTube is probably the biggest platform for accessing mainstream music videos in the world today.
You have asked no question three times that I have not answered. This seems to be a figment of your imagination because even when you bring up this question in this response, the actual question you are referencing remains absent. The only thing you have done more than once is post some video and slap an "explain that" on it. I'm sorry if you think something like this constitutes an intelligent question that is capable of generating a response.

As a result, I believe that I have answered this "explain that" question at some point throughout this thread and others because I have addressed more than a few examples of predictive programming. In addition to this, War and Peace is a complex piece of classic fiction, and that is the reason for its length. Being compared to this is actually a compliment even though I know that is not what you intended by saying it.
 
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BTW @rainerann

You "joked" that Twin Peaks was related to the 9-11. Here is what I found on this:


The Twin Peaks soundtrack was released on September 11, 1990

This was exactly 11 years before the September 11 attacks

The sign on the album reads:
WELCOME
TO
TWIN PEAKS
POPULATION 51,201

50,000 people worked in the Twin Towers on 9/11

The 11th and final track on the album is titled "Falling"

The album was recorded at Excalibur Sound in New York City

On the show Twin Peaks, the protagonist, FBI Special Agent Dale Bartholomew Cooper, is named after the most infamous hijacker before 9/11, D. B. Cooper
So if we round the population of the Twin Peaks to the number of people who worked in the Twin Towers on 9-11, this actually become another subconscious reference to 9-11 and not just a way of indicating to the audience that the setting of the town is described as small. This would add to the response of the characters who do not expect things to take place and contribute to the overall story, as it is a basic assumption that small towns are exempt from certain things because small towns have a higher degree of accountability since it is assumed that everyone knows everyone, and there aren't as many things to distract people from what is taking place in the town.

I really think that many people would benefit from a basic understanding of fiction writing.
 

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So if we round the population of the Twin Peaks to the number of people who worked in the Twin Towers on 9-11, this actually become another subconscious reference to 9-11 and not just a way of indicating to the audience that the setting of the town is described as small. This would add to the response of the characters who do not expect things to take place and contribute to the overall story, as it is a basic assumption that small towns are exempt from certain things because small towns have a higher degree of accountability since it is assumed that everyone knows everyone, and there aren't as many things to distract people from what is taking place in the town.

I really think that many people would benefit from a basic understanding of fiction writing.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say there. You often go off on a tangent that has not much to do with what is being said. You also have basically ignored 6/7 of the correlating facts between 9-11 and the show.
 

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say there. You often go off on a tangent that has not much to do with what is being said. You also have basically ignored 6/7 of the correlating facts between 9-11 and the show.
No, I addressed one of the specific references you made in detail which was in regard to the population size, which is a stretch of the imagination. There are no other correlating facts according to the post that I am responding to that are also not an extreme stretch of the imagination.

"The sign on the album reads:
WELCOME
TO
TWIN PEAKS
POPULATION 51,201

50,000 people worked in the Twin Towers on 9/11

The 11th and final track on the album is titled "Falling"

The album was recorded at Excalibur Sound in New York City

On the show Twin Peaks, the protagonist, FBI Special Agent Dale Bartholomew Cooper, is named after the most infamous hijacker before 9/11, D. B. Cooper"

The 11th track is Falling? Am I really supposed to respond to this as something that legitimately supports your argument? I truly considered you to be more intelligent than to present something like this as though it were a valid argument.

The album was recorded at Excalibur Sound in New York City? This piece of information that most people who bought the album don't even know is supposed to be a subconscious reference to accepting 9-11? Lol. I wonder how many people have also recorded in this same location in New York that is another prime location for artists and performers to go to pursue their dream of becoming famous. How much have you learned about New York up there in Canada? I feel like I am trying to teach a basic social studies class, but you are not from the states, so maybe you don't know all that much about New York.

The FBI special agent is named Dale Bartholomew Cooper which resembles the name of a famous hijacker not involved with 9-11 who was infamous or in other words well known in order to potentially derive the name of a character from this infamous person? Are you serious? You are seriously responding suggesting that I have ignored better examples that you had included besides the population thing? I was doing you a favor by not including these.

Then the kicker.

"The Twin Peaks soundtrack was released on September 11, 1990

This was exactly 11 years before the September 11 attacks"

Oh my gosh, they released their album and 9-11, eleven years before the attack. :eek: To consider this after you go through all the other references that slip through the fingertips like sand, it just is ridiculous. I mean seriously, there were two other people throughout school that had the exact same birthday as I did and I grew up in a town that was smaller than 50,000 people. What are the odds?

I wonder how many things happened on September 11th before it became famous for being 9-11 that we could rummage through for more subconscious references that seemed to have no effect on the response towards 9-11 after the fact. Did I get everything? Was that all of them?
 

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I thought I already explained the whole predictive programming thing. It's just life and art imitating each other. That is why everything that has transpired since 9/11 seems like natural human responses. And the breadcrumbs don't really go anywhere. People are more skeptical and distrustful of the government than ever before. The architects of The War in Iraq are considered war criminals. Plus everyone and their brother is currently suing the feds over illegal surveillance and civil rights violations.

You want us to believe that these facts are all part of the plan? I think yall have fallen down a rabbit hole of disinformation. I mean distraction really seems like the whole point here. Like I said it isn't rocket science. To truly cover up a crime you need people looking in all the wrong places. If you can give people an unsolvable mystery, and they actually try to solve it. You win by default.
 

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The 11th track is Falling? Am I really supposed to respond to this as something that legitimately supports your argument? I truly considered you to be more intelligent than to present something like this as though it were a valid argument.
Taken alone it does not say much, but combined with the rest it does. You have to look at the whole picture.


The album was recorded at Excalibur Sound in New York City? This piece of information that most people who bought the album don't even know is supposed to be a subconscious reference to accepting 9-11? Lol. I wonder how many people have also recorded in this same location in New York that is another prime location for artists and performers to go to pursue their dream of becoming famous. How much have you learned about New York up there in Canada? I feel like I am trying to teach a basic social studies class, but you are not from the states, so maybe you don't know all that much about New York.
That might be the weakest link, but again you have to look at the whole picture.


The FBI special agent is named Dale Bartholomew Cooper which resembles the name of a famous hijacker not involved with 9-11 who was infamous or in other words well known in order to potentially derive the name of a character from this infamous person? Are you serious? You are seriously responding suggesting that I have ignored better examples that were included. I was doing you a favor by doing this.
You are side stepping this one big time! The infamous 9-11 hijacker has the same identical name anyone can check this easily. Way too big to be a coincidence.

This was exactly 11 years before the September 11 attacks"

Oh my gosh, they released their album and 9-11, eleven years before the attack. :eek: To consider this after you go through all the other references that slip through the fingertips like sand, it just is ridiculous. I mean seriously, there were two other people throughout school that had the exact same birthday as I did and I grew up in a town that was smaller than 50,000 people. What are the odds?
Yes and George H W Bush spoke about the NWO on September 11 1991, 10 years before. All a big coincidence of course.

But keep burying your head in the sand...you seem to like that. That or you are here to try and prevent people from uncovering the truth.
 

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I have already said more than once, that I do think there is a meaning to some of the references to 9-11 before it happened. That doesn't mean that everything is predictive programming or that everything is referencing 9-11. For example, there are things like this that are being shared as examples of predictive programming regarding 9-11 that are clearly not referencing this event.



http://www.truefreethinker.com/articles/ultimate-911-predictive-programming-collection

This is not even the twin towers and every example of an aircraft attacking a large building is not a premeditated reference to 9-11. That doesn't mean that there aren't any references to 9-11 in media, but people have clearly gotten carried away with this subject.
 

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are more skeptical and distrustful of the government than ever before. The architects of The War in Iraq are considered war criminals
W Bush is still running free last time I have checked. Him and his whole administration never paid the price so they are not considered "war criminals". People are waking up but years after the event which makes it all futile. They are falling for the acting of an orange clown named DJT instead.
 
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